samcv | timotimo, i.imgflip.com/1nw9qp.jpg | 01:28 | |
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timotimo | samcv: i hope it was you who made this :) | 05:50 | |
yoleaux | 02:39Z <MasterDuke_> timotimo: i'm trying to work on RT #118555 (typed optional array parameters not working), but have hit a roadblock. some comments here: irclog.perlgeek.de/perl6-dev/2017-...i_14485206 . any suggestions? | ||
synopsebot6 | Link: rt.perl.org/rt3/Public/Bug/Display...?id=118555 | ||
samcv | made what? | ||
Nuclear::Blackmail_aka_9PM_BST.p6 ? | |||
timotimo | no, the meme image with the high fives :) | 05:53 | |
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samcv | oh yes | 05:55 | |
i made it | |||
XD | |||
uh timotimo link me to it again please | 05:56 | ||
brrt | i.imgflip.com/1nw9qp.jpg | ||
samcv | i should save it so i don't lose it | 05:57 | |
hahaha. yes :) | |||
brrt | pair programming ???? | 05:58 | |
samcv | i saw that picture and it reminded me about the high five thing. so i had to make a macro | ||
it was on a page as the image as a critism of hype based development or something | |||
people using the 'newest' and coolest JS frameworks for no good reason other than someone online said it was good on hackernews | 05:59 | ||
here it is blog.daftcode.pl/hype-driven-devel...69fc2e9b22 | |||
timotimo | the hype about hype driven development is already over, isn't it? | 06:01 | |
like, it was totally hype like five years ago | |||
samcv | i dunno | ||
timotimo | now it's just a lukewarm sensation | ||
samcv | now it's just normal hype? | ||
not hype about hype? | |||
socket.io is a realtime socket implementation | |||
nobody use brains to think about this. but it sounds cool everybody use it | |||
timotimo | well, it's certainly not worse than all the other realtime socket implementations the javascriptosphere has to offer | 06:02 | |
samcv | idk if there's any others that claim to be realtime | 06:04 | |
oh nvm found one sailsjs.com/documentation/concepts/realtime | |||
i think 'live' is a better word for what they mean | 06:05 | ||
or asynchronous live sockets | 06:07 | ||
omg | |||
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idk i don't have the heart | |||
i already bugged one framework | |||
timotimo | did they actually respond? i haven't looked at the pr in a few days | ||
brrt | indeed, what is a realtime socket? :-o | 06:08 | |
samcv | here found it in my history github.com/socketio/socket.io/issues/2915 | 06:09 | |
even my not totally fake screenshot attachment knows it's not acutually realtime XD | 06:12 | ||
timotimo | it's like going to a restaurant and ordering the "kosher burger" and it turns out it's a beef burger with bacon and egg on it | 06:16 | |
"you're overreacting. of course everybody knows we don't make kosher burgers here!" | |||
samcv | lol. | ||
apparently i can never trust any javascript framework anymore | 06:17 | ||
since that guy says you can't trust any claims they make | |||
I think you are overreacting, this is JS, nothing is serious here. It's all based on hype and buzz. | |||
timotimo | oh, i can't wait to see things the javascript community presents as "security" | 06:19 | |
samcv | oh god i have 168 PR open | 06:20 | |
timotimo | well, the password isn't in plain text, it's actually in a string inside a javascript object that's inside another javascript object. you don't think anybody can read javascript datastructures out of the RAM, do you? | ||
samcv | so many emails | ||
hahahha | |||
at least i can type 'NOT spdx' and have it show the other ones. cool | 06:21 | ||
timotimo | "object inside of object is actually *two* layers of security right there | 06:22 | |
" sorry i didn't mean to not close those quotation marks | 06:24 | ||
samcv | argh looking again at github PR i did to try and add Pod6 as a language | 06:25 | |
so they don't think there's enough pod6 type files to bother adding it | |||
so 851 results that are .pod that are per6 pod github.com/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&a...rchresults | 06:26 | ||
timotimo | is that really much? like, we live in a big data world now | ||
samcv | and 1,133 that are .pod6 github.com/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&a...;type=Code | ||
in dec 12 it was 53 repositories among 31 users | 06:27 | ||
at least that's what they argued | 06:28 | ||
timotimo | i don't write pod6 :| | ||
samcv | i write my .pm6 files with pod6 | ||
people would write pod6 much more if github supported in like perl 5 pod | |||
and rendered it | 06:29 | ||
idk maybe we need to tell everybody to add .pod6 files to their repos XD | |||
then go back and ask again | |||
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brrt | lol samcv | 09:51 | |
samcv | idk it could work | 09:54 | |
we have 900 modules. gotta see how many unique users though | |||
apparently they think the number of unique users that use something is most importent | |||
brrt | don't they have like a syntax rendering library? you could always code a renderer yourself and PR it | 09:56 | |
samcv | we have atom-language-perl6 which is what perl6 things use | ||
and i did have a PR to use the same thing as perl6 files are highlighted with | |||
but apparently not enough people use pod6 | |||
so they won't add it | |||
even though perl6 is already added | |||
because reasons | 09:57 | ||
brrt, though i got them to add in .XCompose file highlighting :\ i made a highlighter for it | 10:01 | ||
and there were enough different users that had XCompose files that they were like ok fine | |||
not even a language even. just a config filx XD | |||
brrt | hmmm | ||
well | |||
samcv | github.com/samcv/dot-files/blob/ma.../.XCompose they do look nicer with highlighting now tho :D | 10:02 | |
brrt | what's the saying again about metrics becoming targets? | ||
samcv | or we convinced someone who works at github to say yes | ||
idk | |||
brrt | do we know anybody who works at github | ||
anyway | |||
samcv | tell me the saying | ||
brrt | en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goodhart%27s_law | 10:03 | |
samcv | good thing these XCompose files get highlighting! how could we live without that! too bad pod6 is not important enough | ||
brrt | As soon as a metric becomes a target, it ceases to be a useful metric | ||
do we have a pod6 syntax highligher? | |||
*highlighter | |||
samcv | yes. | ||
atom-language-perl6 | |||
brrt | that's the same thing? | ||
samcv | yes it highlights pod | ||
brrt | hmmm | ||
samcv | it doesn't render as html though. which would be the ideal | ||
brrt nods | 10:04 | ||
samcv | i just wanted them to have it highlighted and have .pod files that were perl6 pod and not perl 5 pod | ||
to not explode the perl 5 pod html renderer | |||
which they currently do. but. not enough different users and repositories... or something. that have .pod files that are perl 6 | |||
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samcv | or .pod6 files. or both combined or idk anymore | 10:05 | |
i even coded a thing to detect pod5 vs pod6 for them even | |||
their classifier or whatever they call it. | |||
brrt | hmm, that kind of sucks, indeed | 10:25 | |
samcv | night o/ | 11:10 | |
brrt | sleep well | 11:11 | |
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samcv | looks like i got a segfault | 22:23 | |
parallization | |||
gonna see if i can repeat and and if so build debug moar and get a backtrace | |||
Geth | MoarVM: e5b527edbb | (Samantha McVey)++ | src/strings/ops.c Rename h_vars to H_vars to make haystack vars distinguishable from n_vars We use n_graphs and h_graphs or n_cps etc. in many places. h and n are not super easy to distinguish. Go with convention of using a capital H for any uses of haystack and lowercase n for needle. This makes it much easier to visually scan code and know which object is which and the likely relative sizes each may be. |
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samcv | not a ton of info gist.github.com/samcv/2696f9cd1ce9...21768309fd | 22:28 | |
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