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| tadzik | timotimo++ | 07:01 | |
| that bit me with steroids :) | 07:02 | ||
| jnthn | Bit me when making demo app with Gtk::Simple too ;) | ||
| But I could avoid it in such a simple thing :) | |||
| Glad it's fixed. | |||
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| brrt | jnthn, with a (small) bit of asm, making a stack frame out of heap memory is actually really trivial | 07:55 | |
| (backlogging from the discussion yesterday) | 07:56 | ||
| case in fact | |||
| you could use dynasm to compile a 'move to heap, call and return' wrapper | |||
| if you were so inclined | 07:57 | ||
| (yes i'm aware of the evil, but calling compiled functions sensibly is a problem i'll have to solve /anyway/) | |||
| jnthn | brrt: Yeah, but then we need to do it on all places we want to support with no sane non-assembly fallback :) | 07:58 | |
| brrt | all the world is x64 right :-p | 08:02 | |
| i know | |||
| unsolved problem | |||
| by the way, i think i've learned a new heuristic this week, or at least how to better formulate that heuristic | 08:05 | ||
| 'don't do by algorithm what can be done by data' | |||
| jnthn | Hmm | 08:07 | |
| Example? :) | |||
| brrt | its an R example, if you care for it :-) | 08:08 | |
| basically, i had a data frame (=~ a 'table') containing two columns of interest : 'type' and 'condition' | 08:09 | ||
| and i needed to calculate some values with respect to both these columns | |||
| now for just those two, thats not very hard, R will give you a matrix (= also atable) | 08:10 | ||
| however, i needed to relate them to a time variable as well - i.e. calculate both over time | |||
| which gives you a three-dimensional matrix | 08:11 | ||
| and even that isn't much of a problem but that many columns of our three-dimensional matrix are empty completely (because they did not appear in the actual experiment) | |||
| and i was very busy writing the logic for simplifying this 3-dimensional matrix to two-dimensional form | 08:12 | ||
| when it struck me that i could just paste the relevant columns of type and condition together | |||
| i.e. i replaced an algorithm with a data operation | |||
| jnthn | :) | 08:13 | |
| Sounds like a nice simplification. | |||
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| brrt | well, yes :-) | 08:15 | |
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| brrt | especially as R is not the most algorithmically elegant language imaginable | 08:16 | |
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| dalek | href="https://moarvm.org:">moarvm.org: 746e1a7 | jnthn++ | / (4 files): Various updates for 2014.05 release. |
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| jnthn | www.moarvm.org/ updated :) | 09:50 | |
| FROGGS | that reads very well :o) | 09:52 | |
| jnthn | brrt: I figure at some point soon we should do some more detailed planning for your JIT work. I figure so far you're working on understanding the ingredients involved. I guess you'll have some questions on spesh too. :) | 09:53 | |
| It'd be good to figure out concrete tasks from here. | 09:55 | ||
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| timotimo | jnthn, got an idea for what to prioritize in gtk-simple? | 18:40 | |
| or maybe something for spesh or mvm in general? | 18:41 | ||
| not sure i will be able to finish the named parameter spesh thing on my own | |||
| jnthn | timotimo: Well, adding more controls and events? :) | 18:42 | |
| I know we're missing a bunch of popular ones (like, check boxes, radio buttons, sliders, progress bars, images...) | 18:44 | ||
| tadzik | timotimo: porting the old niecza gtk# examples might be fun :) | 18:47 | |
| also, I can check if I can port my bachelor's app to Perl 6 now | |||
| timotimo | something that can draw stuff would be a nice base for turtle graphics | ||
| tadzik | uit's also using gtk for gui, I can make a list of things that it needs | ||
| timotimo | how about dbus? | ||
| tadzik | hm, using gtk for the last 5 years I never touched dbus :o | 18:48 | |
| timotimo | does glib have something C ish for that? | ||
| tadzik | there's glib-dbus orso | ||
| timotimo | sounds helpful | ||
| it's good for system utilities | |||
| well, desktop utilities, really | 18:53 | ||
| at some point splitting the code into filesbwould be interesting | |||
| tadzik looks at his gtk programs to look for something easy to port | 18:57 | ||
| oh, github.com/tadzik/l should be simple enough :) | |||
| timotimo | justba launcher? | 19:05 | |
| FROGGS | timotimo: what happened to your spacebar? | 19:13 | |
| timotimo | this is a phone keyboard | 19:20 | |
| if i were at home or at least had my laptop with me, i'd be doing p6 stuff | 19:32 | ||
| tadzik | yeah, a fast launcher :) | 19:35 | |
| timotimo | 'fast' ;) | 19:38 | |
| tadzik | it is superfast, 'cos it has no startup time | 19:46 | |
| it runs in the background, and then SIGUSR1 makes it show up | |||
| timotimo | the perl6 port will be super fast, too? | 20:06 | |
| [Coke] | github.com/tadzik/l - readme has a formattating error. your literal `'s got turned into {{MONOSPACE}} | 20:09 | |
| *formatting | |||
| tadzik | maybe :) | 20:30 | |
| [Coke]: it did? I don't see ti | |||
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