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| Geth | MoarVM: MasterDuke17++ created pull request #589: Zero slot when popping an array |
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| brrt | good * #moarvm | 05:37 | |
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| samcv | good * brrt | 06:08 | |
| brrt | ohai samcv | ||
| samcv | i have been told if i don't like the license libtommath is under and think public domain is technicaly not a license and WTFPL is not a real license either to fork the project and edit the license file. and show my lawyers the fork | ||
| github.com/libtom/libtommath/issues/76 | 06:09 | ||
| ahh | |||
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| brrt | hang on | 06:09 | |
| samcv | yeah read that. will explain better than me typing words. | ||
| kk | |||
| take your time | |||
| brrt | it appears to me we're dealing with the sort of person who would pick WTFPL | 06:11 | |
| samcv | i don't think they are the author though they are a member | 06:12 | |
| ah yes brrt heh | |||
| and they cite OSI and what they said about public domain to defend the WTFPL | |||
| but then OSI says | |||
| It's no different from dedication to the public domain. Author has submitted license approval request | |||
| – author is free to make public domain dedication. Although he agrees with the recommendation, Mr. | |||
| Michlmayr notes that public domain doesn't exist in Europe. Recommend: Reject. | |||
| ^this about WTFPL | |||
| brrt | yeah, so if somebody wants to aggressively not care about licenses, it's going to be difficult to make them | ||
| samcv | may respond later. typed something up but going to relax and think a bit first | 06:13 | |
| maybe better to contact the creator of the project idk we'll see where this goes. i only submitted it 8 hours ago | |||
| brrt | sure | ||
| what i would try and do is convince them to switch to something bog-standard like MIT | |||
| samcv | looks like they have 3 commits to that repo total | ||
| yeah MIT is fine | |||
| i suggested CC-0 because of the creators wanting it in public domain | 06:14 | ||
| brrt | with the argument that an unclear license could make their software *less* useful | ||
| samcv | yeah. if you want public domain why not license it under like | ||
| every single osi approved licesne | |||
| see github.com/libtom/libtommath/issues/76 XD | 06:15 | ||
| err oops | |||
| brrt | because i guarantee you that WTFPL will make suits nervous | ||
| samcv | here's the link github.com/Juerd/p6-mqtt/issues/3 | ||
| it makes me nervous | |||
| and i'm not even a lawyer | |||
| brrt | well, not without reason | ||
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| samcv | i should make a new license that has the lowest wordcount possible | 06:15 | |
| and that person will LOVE it | 06:16 | ||
| unless the wtfpl license tells me i can change the licens to whatever i want (in which case it'd probably be more viable to be honest) then not going to fork and change the license... | 06:17 | ||
| brrt | yeah, i don't know how that works | ||
| samcv | that's like. way worse. | ||
| show that to my 'lawyers' and then they find out i lied to them | |||
| brrt | i *think* given the intention to put it in public domain, you'd probably be in the clear, but it doesn't make me any happier either | 06:18 | |
| samcv | and then like. fire me or have to review all the software for everything i have asked them to check | ||
| yeah | |||
| i mean public domain is really not legal unless it's dual licensed or whatever. under like. any sane license | |||
| brrt | so yeah. i'd say cool down, and come back later with a well-reasoned argument about how a proper license will help enterprises take up libtommath for great glory | 06:19 | |
| samcv | it's odd that that persons comments on WTFPL look *exactly* like the creator of WTFPL has made on hackernews | ||
| brrt | :-) | ||
| samcv | yep | ||
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| timotimo | that'? the WTFPL Legal Defense Team | 10:26 | |
| brrt | lol | 11:31 | |
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| Geth | MoarVM: 5fa7d8a986 | MasterDuke17++ | src/6model/reprs/VMArray.c Zero slot when popping an array Otherwise ghost elements are left. Fixes rt.perl.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=131245 |
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| MoarVM: b53b05f5e4 | MasterDuke17++ | src/6model/reprs/VMArray.c Pull body->start + body->elems out into a variable |
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| MoarVM: 8ad18b8460 | niner++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | src/6model/reprs/VMArray.c Merge pull request #589 from MasterDuke17/zero_slot_when_popping_an_array Zero slot when popping an array |
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| Geth | MoarVM: 8d8a09b971 | (Timo Paulssen)++ | Configure.pl telemeh can apparently bring in a stray dependency on windows. not sure how or why, but telemeh isn't essential anyway. |
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| Zoffix | Well, that was a guess at least. | 19:39 | |
| timotimo | hm, can i "just" extract an .msi? | 19:43 | |
| like, on linux, with only wine? | |||
| timotimo downloads | 19:44 | ||
| MasterDuke_ | cabextract maybe? | 19:46 | |
| timotimo | msiexec /a allegedly | 19:47 | |
| well, nm doesn't understand the .dll | 19:48 | ||
| oh yeah telemeh is in there | |||
| well, it contains the string "telemeh.c" | 19:49 | ||
| no clue what exactly that'd mean? | |||
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| when building rakudo | |||
| timotimo | yeah, what about it? | ||
| MasterDuke_ | -DHAVE_TELEMEH | 19:50 | |
| timotimo | yeah | ||
| so? :) | |||
| that only has an effect on the headers | |||
| oh, not even | |||
| only on the .c | 19:55 | ||
| i can't run it with wine because i need a 64bit wine installation first | 20:04 | ||
| and have to switch stuff around | |||
| MasterDuke_ | i always keep a 32bit and 64bit wineprefix around and then have this in my .bashrc: alias wine32='WINEARCH=win32 WINEPREFIX=~/.wine.32/ wine'; alias wine64='WINEARCH=win64 WINEPREFIX=~/.wine.64/ wine' | 20:06 | |
| timotimo | i always have to use the alternatives mechanism to also switch the wineserver around | 20:07 | |
| MasterDuke_ | ah. arch doesn't use alternatives | 20:08 | |
| timotimo | oh, but maybe | 20:09 | |
| maybe WINEARCH would do that | |||
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| timotimo | oh! | 22:12 | |
| github.com/MoarVM/MoarVM/issues/27...-299036103 - this is bad! | 22:13 | ||
| oh, wait | |||
| i think i might have misunderstood | |||
| are we putting -Werror=... into our CFLAGS? | 22:14 | ||
| cflags => -Wdeclaration-after-statement -Werror=declaration-after-statement | |||
| bah | |||
| we should not be forcing LibraryMake and others to set this flag on C code they happen to be compiling | |||
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