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| sergot | o/ | 06:24 | |
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| brrt | timotimo: becauase mvmarray checks negative indices, array bounds, and a start index | 07:21 | |
| the only thing i'd think of is proving bounds on the index | 07:26 | ||
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| timotimo | brrt: when we have an iterator, we know the indices cannot be negative | 07:31 | |
| as they start at 0 and only ever get incremented | 07:32 | ||
| how's that? :) | |||
| brrt | that would be decent i think :-) | 07:33 | |
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| brrt | but the special case nature of it suggests special casing on iterators. hence, shift | 07:51 | |
| timotimo | er ... yeah, that'? what i was suggesting to do | 07:52 | |
| well, i suggested to do it in spesh | |||
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| leont | According to Reini "parrot was destroyed by a different set of poisonous people. Now without them progress can continue, even of most of devs choose to switch to the new vm moar"… | 16:15 | |
| FROGGS | hmmm, I only agree with parts of this sentence | 16:18 | |
| might be just because I'm a newbie still | 16:19 | ||
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| nwc10 | apparently, I've retired. This is news to me. I just thought that I was very busy with real life (TM) | 17:31 | |
| it's amazing what you learn from the Internet | 17:32 | ||
| [Coke] | . ask diakopter - think I figured out the problem - can you up the swap space on host08 to match host07? (I can probably stumble my way through this if needed) | 17:47 | |
| (the problem == things exploding when we have two big java things going on at the same time) | |||
| .ask diakopter - think I figured out the problem - can you up the swap space on host08 to match host07? (I can probably stumble my way through this if needed) | 17:48 | ||
| bah, wrong window. | |||
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| brrt | leont: i don't think parrot was destroyed by poison though | 19:18 | |
| japhb | Reference link? | 19:33 | |
| nwc10 | thread here, I think www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.perl5....20297.html | 19:34 | |
| (not that message | |||
| please note that all the archives I can find online seem to be a bit behind | |||
| japhb | Hrmm, yeah, I don't see the above quotes in that thread on www.nntp.perl.org, so I'll check back another time | 19:40 | |
| nwc10 | this is the only current archive I can find: groups.google.com/d/msg/perl.perl5...PS6pM2AakJ | 19:41 | |
| japhb | Oh ouch, banned? | 19:47 | |
| lizmat | yup | 19:49 | |
| for 1 month | |||
| japhb sighs at the whole oft-repeated cycle (not him in particular, I dunno, just ... among projects I have tracked at one time or another) | 19:50 | ||
| nine | Great way to "solve" disagreements. On both sides. | 20:01 | |
| timotimo | i'm not sure i understand all of what brrt and jnthn discussed in #perl6 recently ... | 20:29 | |
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| japhb | timotimo: What have they been discussing? | 21:10 | |
| timotimo | optimization opportunities, changes to make MVMArray less dynamic/changable | 21:17 | |
| brrt | timotimo: meaning? :-) i'm not sure i understand all either, but i'd like to hear | 21:21 | |
| and discuss | |||
| basically, the way i get it, both jnthn and i would like much cheaper arrays | 21:23 | ||
| one reason for that would be that our string type could be implemented higher up | |||
| i may be hugely misrepresenting stuff right now and if so i apologise :-) | |||
| timotimo | ah | 21:30 | |
| well, the QPMC stuff, which is "we have a starting index which we'll shuffle around back to 0 only when we need more space", was a really gigantic improvement to lots of use cases | |||
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| brrt | qpmc? | 21:34 | |
| timotimo | er | 21:35 | |
| QRPA | 21:36 | ||
| sorry | |||
| quantùm resizable power array | |||
| brrt | uhm | 21:45 | |
| google doesn't know that acronym clearly | |||
| but i guess that's what we have now? | 21:46 | ||
| [Coke] | qast resizable pmc array. | 21:47 | |
| timotimo | well, not "qast" i think | ||
| [Coke] | where pmc is "parrot magic cookie" or "native object in parrot" | ||
| but rpa stuck in some cases. | |||
| ah, whoops. | 21:48 | ||
| ETOOMANYQs. | 21:49 | ||
| timotimo | :) | ||
| [Coke] | 25c0b53 in nqp says "quicker" | ||
| brrt | oh i see | 21:51 | |
| timotimo | Q is also "comes after P" often, like in QAST as the successor to PAST | 21:52 | |
| brrt | but my suspicion was that resizable pmc array was sparse by default? | ||
| timotimo | hm, i'm not sure when having null slots in there happened | 21:53 | |
| [Coke] | I don't remember parrot internals well enough to answer that. | 21:54 | |
| japhb | [Coke]: I'd consider that a good thing, at this point. (And frankly I'm in the same situation.) | 21:55 | |
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