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github.com/moarvm/moarvm | IRC logs at colabti.org/irclogger/irclogger_logs/moarvm Set by AlexDaniel on 12 June 2018. |
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| Geth | MoarVM/jit-expr-refactor: 6 commits pushed by (Bart Wiegmans)++ | 06:42 | |
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| brrt | \o | 06:42 | |
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| jnthn | o/ | 10:05 | |
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| nine | /win 10 | 10:07 | |
| buggable | nine, Thank you for entering Accidental /win Lottery! The next draw will happen in 1 day, 13 hours, 52 minutes, and 49 seconds | ||
| nine | Oh, just in time | ||
| nwc10 | such a win | ||
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| brrt | i'm of half a mind to convert generate-oplist.p6 to perl5, so that we can run it at build time | 13:57 | |
| a smaller piece of my mind says to port dynasm to perl5 as well, so we don't need minilua | |||
| nwc10 | surely if you convert it to NQP you can run it from the bootstrapping VM? | 13:58 | |
| although I guess that still isn't present early enough in boot(strapping) time | 13:59 | ||
| but it makes me edgy every time there's less dogfood | |||
| and also every time it just is assumed that Perl 5 forever be there as a bootstrapping tool for Perl 6 | |||
| brrt | hmm. I'm not so edgy about that, tbh | 14:04 | |
| I'm thinking that the alternative is to have either a mini-interpreter (a la minilua) or to have several of our build-time tools written in C | 14:06 | ||
| neither of which is very attractive | |||
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| jnthn | Or just bundle a current version in the repo | 14:07 | |
| Like we do with various files already | |||
| brrt | hehe. so we have three ways to do it already :-) | 14:08 | |
| jnthn | For stuff that doesn't change that often, I'm good with bundling | ||
| We already do it with the Unicode database and the stuff generated from src/core/oplist | |||
| brrt | It's pragmatic, for sure | 14:09 | |
| jnthn | Text compresses well | ||
| Git compresses stuff. | |||
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| brrt | I'm being puristic, I think | 14:10 | |
| I'm fond of doing it at build time because it's reliable (or well, it ought to be) | 14:11 | ||
| jnthn | I'm not sure how everybody re-producing artefacts with their own local environment is more reliable than one person who knows how to assess/test the outcome producing it once for everyone to use. :) | 14:14 | |
| brrt | well, the one person can forget, is the thing | ||
| fair enough though | |||
| the flip side of that coin is 'it works on my machine' | 14:15 | ||
| jnthn | btw, will continue with the spesh plugin and Rakudo Scalar stuff next week. Had some small surgery yesterday and just don't have the concentration for it again yet. | ||
| brrt | oh, well, hope you'll recover well :-) | 14:16 | |
| jnthn | Me too :) | 14:17 | |
| brrt | (Perl(5) scripts are comparatively easy to make portable, I think.) | ||
| [Coke] | I think our community has the "perl 5 is going to be around for a long time" baked into the assumptions. And they're already more portable than we are. I think we're OK for some time. | 14:23 | |
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| [Coke] | (we should still plan for it eventually, sure) | 14:23 | |
| geekosaur | it's not going away any time soon; too much depends on it | 14:24 | |
| like, quite a bit of the scaffolding around dpkg on debian | |||
| brrt | Also, don't know if you've heard, but it's actually a nice language | 14:26 | |
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