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Welcome to the main channel on the development of MoarVM, a virtual machine for NQP and Rakudo (moarvm.org). This channel is being logged for historical purposes. Set by lizmat on 24 May 2021. |
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| nine | I think the reasoning there was like "on the Moon or Mars we won't have such systems either, so we'll have to do without". But then, on Moon or Mars it will only be Starship with it's 6 raptor engines instead of Super Heavy with 33. | 07:51 | |
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| timo | yeah like, is that so obviously wrong that anybody could have immediately told E-Man, but nobody wanted to lose their job on the spot? | 09:22 | |
| just spitballin' here | |||
| lizmat | E-man is hardly involved with SpaceX anymore at a technical level, is my impression | 09:24 | |
| timo | oh he's just there to gobble up the government subsidies then? :'D | 09:28 | |
| nine | Well the thing is pretty much built by now, i.e. the heavy development phase is completed. Now it's just fixing issues and minor optimizations. That's just not where he's useful. | 09:30 | |
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| timo | excuse me for looking at that man and being a bit incredulous when you say he's just going to get out of the way when he's not useful %) | 10:53 | |
| nine | Let me put it this way: he seems to be a straight out asshole and I'm appalled at his recently expressed political views. That doesn't change the fact that he's clearly very smart and successful. And it seems pretty clear to me that his interest lies in the phase where you need to get stuff off the ground. That's also what he seems to be good at. | 11:08 | |
| timo | i think his ability to "get stuff off the ground" is mostly "already has money" and "can raise money from other rich people and get government grants and subsidies purely because he's rich and that means he must be good at money right?" | 11:13 | |
| helps to have an army of fanboys who will react to a single mention of "dog" with making the value of your dog-related investments sharply go up | 11:17 | ||
| Voldenet | getting an army of fanboys takes skill too | 11:19 | |
| timo | being born into riches makes that easier i reckon | 11:21 | |
| nine | That characterization doesn't square with what I've read from people at Tesla, at Space X and the interesting interviews with Musk on the Everyday Astronaut Youtube channel | 11:22 | |
| timo | interesting | ||
| nine | If you dislike the man, feel free to do so. I certainly do. I just don't see the point in denying anything that is objectively good about him while one is at it. There's plenty bad for a well founded opinion anyway. | 11:24 | |
| Voldenet | being rich helps doing things, but why wasn't spacex created by some other rich person then | ||
| timo | there's other private space enterprises by rich people, like jeff bezos for example has one | 11:25 | |
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| timo | wtf armadillo aerospace has been discontinued in 2013? | 11:26 | |
| no wonder i haven't heard much of them for a while | |||
| nine | Well, there's going up and there's going to orbit. Literally an order of magnitude difference. Actually Blue Origin is a good example for how money alone obviously not being enough. | 11:31 | |
| lizmat | what struck me was the difference of people at the JUICE launch, and at the Starship launch | 11:33 | |
| the Starship launch had *many* young people, and a lot of women as well | 11:34 | ||
| the JUICE launch was most definitely older white men only, almost the definition of civil servants | |||
| nine | That's an interesting observation. Btw. I've actually looked into ESA as an employer last year. If only it were easier to get a remote position or if they had any location that was not a day's travel away | 11:35 | |
| Voldenet | yes, there's other companies, but most of them aren't as well-known – could be thanks to random luck or good PR | 11:42 | |
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| timo | maybe here "no pr is bad pr" applies | 15:30 | |
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| lizmat | and yet another Rakudo Weekly News hits the Net: rakudoweekly.blog/2023/04/24/2023-...aseperiod/ | 17:43 | |
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