MasterDuke github.com/rakudo/rakudo/pull/814, if anybody has an hour or so for the in-depth analysis required to validate this PR i promise it will be a thrilling ride 00:08
Zoffix m: say min +'a' 00:14
camelia rakudo-moar 29a110: OUTPUT«Inf␤»
Zoffix m: say minmax +'a'
camelia rakudo-moar 29a110: OUTPUT«Cannot convert string to number: base-10 number must begin with valid digits or '.' in '⏏a' (indicated by ⏏)␤ in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1␤␤Actually thrown at:␤ in any at gen/moar/m-Metamodel.nqp line 3055␤ in block <unit> at <tmp…»
Zoffix hm
Zoffix will fix 00:15
m: say List.^can('min')[0].package 00:18
camelia rakudo-moar 29a110: OUTPUT«(Any)␤»
Zoffix I don't see it defined in Any.pm tho?
Hm, Any-iterable-methods OK 00:19
m: sub foo { fail }; foo // say 'meow' 00:21
camelia rakudo-moar 29a110: OUTPUT«===SORRY!=== Error while compiling <tmp>␤Null regex not allowed␤at <tmp>:1␤------> sub foo { fail }; foo //⏏ say 'meow'␤»
Zoffix PR fixing the min/max stuff: github.com/rakudo/rakudo/pull/815 01:01
sortiz Zoffix++ # Failure propagation 01:06
Zoffix It's a shitty solution, now that I think of it.
Well, not consistent, rather. 01:07
zoffix@VirtualBox:~/CPANPRC/rakudo$ ./perl6-m -e 'my $x = min +"a"; say 42'
42
zoffix@VirtualBox:~/CPANPRC/rakudo$ ./perl6-m -e 'my $x = min +"a", +"a"; say 42'
Cannot convert string to number: base-10 number must begin with valid digits or '
m: say min +'a', +'a' 01:09
camelia rakudo-moar 29a110: OUTPUT«Cannot convert string to number: base-10 number must begin with valid digits or '.' in '⏏a' (indicated by ⏏)␤ in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1␤␤Actually thrown at:␤ in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1␤␤»
Zoffix m: say min +'a'
camelia rakudo-moar 29a110: OUTPUT«Inf␤»
Zoffix So, the PR is a mild improvement over the current situation :)
MasterDuke Zoffix += .5? 01:11
sortiz :)
Well, Failure handling is tricky. 01:13
MasterDuke i started thinking "what's half of '++', but more interesting than '+'?" and nearly said Zoffix-- (a '-' being half of a '+''), but thought that could be mis-interpreted
sortiz Zoffix, thinking about it, in those cases if a Failure is detected is better to throw it, imo 01:42
geekosaur ⁺⁺ :p 01:46
sortiz i.e, nqp::istype($min, Failure) ?? $min.throw !! $min // Inf
Zoffix sortiz, updated, thanks, but I see it spilling guts in the throw message "in any at gen/moar/m-Metamodel.nqp line 3055": gist.github.com/zoffixznet/cb2ec41...f3552e20ec 01:59
The second one is the current rakudo message, for reference
sortiz Zoffix, btw, I think that the test for Failure can be moved to !first-concrete, and may be better handled there. 02:04
Zoffix sortiz, yeah, makes more sense to put it there. Any way to make the thrown exception look the same as for the case with more than one arg? 02:14
sortiz Zoffix, I'm looking into... 02:15
Zoffix Actually, not sure how to do it in !first-concrete... self.throw if nqp::istype(self, Failure); doesn't work 02:25
sortiz You don't need to test in self, test in $value. 02:27
self is the Iterable. 02:28
Zoffix, something like gist.github.com/salortiz/56ed771aa...5baadeef92 02:44
Zoffix sortiz, yeah, that's my current version I'm spectesting. 02:45
It still got gen/moar/m-Metamodel.nqp in the error message, but at least it's consistent now between 1- and many- arg versions :)
sortiz ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ , as Zoffix says 02:46
Zoffix :) I got a key bound to type that :) 02:47
sortiz Yep, I suppose that
:)
Zoffix, seems that nqp::istype($value, Failure) ?? $value.exception.throw !! $value avoids the Metamodel issue. 02:56
sortiz likes Pair programming 03:03
Zoffix \o/ 03:09
sortiz++ great!
spectested and PR updated. 03:12
Zoffix goes to bed o
sortiz Zoffix++
\o 03:13
dalek ast: 683aeea | (Zoffix Znet)++ | S03-operators/minmax.t:
min/max with Failures throw

RT#125334 RT#128573 (currently fudged; awaiting merge of github.com/rakudo/rakudo/pull/815)		 04:05
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Link: rt.perl.org/rt3//Public/Bug/Displa...?id=128573
nine MasterDuke: I kinda hate that we slow down every use of .chop for a completely unrealistic edge case :/ 07:47
psch what's the completely unrealistic edge case? $chars <= 0? 07:49
nine $chars being 9999999999999999999999999999
psch oh, right, because substr takes an int 07:50
well, nqp::substr 07:51
nine I wonder why we have a coercer in the signature there. We usually don't? 07:52
Because I really think it should just take an int 07:53
psch m: say "foo".chop("1")
camelia rakudo-moar 29a110: OUTPUT«fo␤»
nine The string's length cannot exceed int characters anyway
psch yeah, the coercer is a bit weird
nine The commit doesn't really explain it either github.com/rakudo/rakudo/commit/0c0eb135 08:00
psch yeah, the coercer still comes out of nowhere 08:02
the message seems to talk about the parameter being propagated to the sub form and Cool candidate, if anything
grr 08:26
gist.github.com/peschwa/f0b3c39e9c...0e237a9b2d
what a supremely useless backtrace :|
nine We apparently even have a spec test for the coercion, but again the commit message does not tell why :/ 08:34
psch hrm, i suppose i could try to reach for lexical_handler_not_found_error in invokeDirect where we normally throw the UnwindException 08:39
but i'm pretty sure it's not only things that want to throw X::ControlFlow::Return that could reach there
nine psch: at least your useless backtrace tought me about "catch uncought" :) 08:47
psch yeah, it's pretty neat 08:49
doesn't always seem to work though
as in, i remember that RTE still always get caught
but i might be mistaken, 'cause UnwindException extends ControlException extends RuntimeException
so, yeah, it's probably generally useful :P
dalek kudo/nom: 94b52c1 | (Daniel Green)++ | src/core/Str.pm:
Fix RT #125814
 09:03
kudo/nom: 98d472c | lizmat++ | src/core/Str.pm:
Merge pull request #814 from MasterDuke17/RT125814

Fix RT #125814
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ast: a222a04 | (Daniel Green)++ | S32-str/chop.t:
Tests for RT #125814
ast: d9c3d2c | lizmat++ | S32-str/chop.t:
Merge pull request #133 from MasterDuke17/RT125814

Tests for RT #125814
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lizmat nine psch re chop coercing to Int() 09:05
I thought it would be wise to the behaviour be consistent with this: 09:06
m: my @a = ^10; say @a["4"]
camelia rakudo-moar 29a110: OUTPUT«4␤»
nine lizmat: that looks kinda surprising, too :)
I thought we don't coerce in general? 09:07
lizmat not sure how general that is :-) 09:08
psch i'm mostly wondering why it has to be a coercer instead of Cool and just use it Int-y 09:15
so, yeah, it's probably fine 09:16
nine Even with Cool, we'd have to support Int. But I wonder if a multi could safe performance in the common case here? 09:17
psch uhh, what. i got a ThreadContext without a curFrame..? 09:21
well, i guess i have an idea why that is 09:49
'cause it happens in invokeDirect
which means we are between frames, i think..?
hrm, this is somewhat terrible 10:28
because we don't really have way to figure out if we've missed all possible handlers
(still talking about the 'sub f { ^3 .map({ return }) }; f' thing jnthn mentioned yesterday) 10:29
dalek kudo/nom: 5b0a9e4 | lizmat++ | src/core/Rakudo/Internals.pm:
Make sure we know about the new leap-second

  datacenter.iers.org/web/guest/eop/.../latest/16
psch the weird bit is that it apparently doesn't go through handlerDynamic either 10:30
'cause i already tried that and it didn't change anything
and i don't think we can reliably install a handler during code gen either 10:32
jnthn psch: All MoarVM does there is check that the frame that it got is also in the caller chain relative to tc->cur_frame 10:40
psch: Though it has some short-cuts to avoid the scan 10:41
(In some cases)
(The common ones... :))
But a scan along the dynamic chain should be correct
github.com/MoarVM/MoarVM/blob/mast...ons.c#L154 10:42
Just realized that we have an even simpler way to figure it out so never need to scan :)
psch jnthn: so that's handlerDynamic and handlerLexical rolled in one? 10:44
Zoffix m: my $a = +'a'; say 42 10:48
camelia rakudo-moar 98d472: OUTPUT«42␤»
Zoffix m: my $a = +'a'; my $y = $a cmp 42; say 42
camelia rakudo-moar 98d472: OUTPUT«Cannot convert string to number: base-10 number must begin with valid digits or '.' in '⏏a' (indicated by ⏏)␤ in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1␤␤Actually thrown at:␤ in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1␤␤»
Zoffix So my very first version of #815 should've been the more correct one? min/max with single arg that is Failure should return it instead of throwing? RE: github.com/rakudo/rakudo/pull/815#...-231308852 10:49
s/should've/were/;
jnthn psch: Yeah, the way it's factored in Moar we switch move `mode` 10:53
*switch over
dalek kudo/nom: ea8c42a | lizmat++ | src/core/Array.pm:
Make Array.unshift|prepend a few % faster

  - lose the ensure-allocated
  - also make sure it can handle "bare" Array objects without $!reified
lizmat Zoffix: yeah, that feels righter 11:09
gfldex m: enum Foo { 'Bar' => 1}; say 'Bar'; 11:15
camelia rakudo-moar ea8c42: OUTPUT«===SORRY!=== Error while compiling <tmp>␤Undeclared name:␤ Foo used at line 1␤Undeclared routine:␤ enum used at line 1␤␤»
gfldex m: enum Foo ( 'Bar' => 1 ); say 'Bar';
camelia rakudo-moar ea8c42: OUTPUT«Bar␤»
gfldex m: enum Foo ( 'Bar' => 1 ); say "{'Bar'}"; 11:16
camelia rakudo-moar ea8c42: OUTPUT«Bar␤»
tbrowder mornin' #perl6-dev 11:23
[Tux] This is Rakudo version 2016.06-169-gea8c42a built on MoarVM version 2016.06-9-g8fc21d5 11:24
test 15.808
test-t 9.202
csv-parser 16.541
tbrowder ref table pod: I'm trying to incrementally add some severe changes as gradually as I can to eliminate problems, so I've added my proposed DebugPod.nqp as a single PR. The current spec table test has been run against it successfully. Please consider PR github.com/rakudo/rakudo/pull/816 11:26
dalek kudo/nom: c98a6e6 | (Tom Browder)++ | src/Perl6/DebugPod.nqp:
add new file with pod debugging subroutines
 11:39
kudo/nom: 1fb74d5 | (Tom Browder)++ | tools/build/Makefile- (2 files):
mod build tools to compile the new debugging file
kudo/nom: 30cb7d3 | lizmat++ | / (3 files):
Merge pull request #816 from tbrowder/add-pod-debug-file

Add pod debug file
lizmat tbrowder++ 11:47
dalek kudo/nom: 94a31c6 | lizmat++ | src/core/List.pm:
Make List.EXISTS-POS about 2.5x as fast

  - no longer allocates unless necessary
  - first checks validity of index before doing anything else		 12:10
lizmat afk& 12:20
BrokenRobot Oh neat. Google Compute Engine has an API to start/stop instances: cloud.google.com/compute/docs/refe...nces/start Should be fairly easy to cook up a script fire up an instance and copy local work to it for fast spectesting 12:25
Sounds like a good project for my weekend :)
roast fails now with: github.com/perl6/roast/commit/d9c3...52318b1ccd 12:28
psch humm, my current approach complains about modifying the grammar, which i really don't do /o\ 12:29
soo it's probably wrong :S
BrokenRobot And I second nine's sentiments about this. If you're attempting to .chomp an exabyte of data you already have a bug
s/this/slowdown for unrelistic edge case/; 12:30
psch wonders how long Str we can have 12:32
probably depends on how we get them, too
m: my $x = [~] ("a" x 1073741824) xx 2**16 # works, 2**32 doesn't
camelia ( no output )
psch so somewhere in between for that method vOv
m: my $x = [~] ("a" x 1073741824) xx 2**16; say $x.chars
camelia rakudo-moar 94a31c: OUTPUT«0␤»
psch aha
m: my $x = [~] (("a" x 1073741824) xx 2**16); say $x.chars 12:33
camelia rakudo-moar 94a31c: OUTPUT«0␤»
psch m: my $x = [~] (("a" x 1073741824)); say $x.chars
camelia rakudo-moar 94a31c: OUTPUT«1073741824␤»
psch m: my $x = [~] (("a" x 1073741824) xx 4); say $x.chars
camelia rakudo-moar 94a31c: OUTPUT«0␤»
psch m: say (("a" x 1073741824) xx 4).map: *.chars
camelia rakudo-moar 94a31c: OUTPUT«(1073741824 1073741824 1073741824 1073741824)␤»
psch m: say (("a" x 1073741824) ~ ("a" x 1073741824)).chars 12:34
camelia rakudo-moar 94a31c: OUTPUT«2147483648␤»
BrokenRobot k, I updated the PR to return a Failure on single-arg: github.com/rakudo/rakudo/pull/815#...-231347953 12:35
m: say 2**16 12:37
camelia rakudo-moar 94a31c: OUTPUT«65536␤»
BrokenRobot What's the magicalness of 1073741824? 12:38
psch m: say "a" xx 2**64
camelia rakudo-moar 94a31c: OUTPUT«Cannot unbox 65 bit wide bigint into native integer␤ in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1␤␤»
psch m: say "a" x 2**64
camelia rakudo-moar 94a31c: OUTPUT«Cannot unbox 65 bit wide bigint into native integer␤ in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1␤␤»
psch m: say "a" x 2**63
camelia rakudo-moar 94a31c: OUTPUT«repeat count (-9223372036854775808) cannot be negative␤ in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1␤␤»
psch m: say "a" x 2**32
camelia rakudo-moar 94a31c: OUTPUT«repeat count > 1073741824 arbitrarily unsupported...␤ in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1␤␤»
psch there
BrokenRobot Ah
psch also, interesting escalation of broken tbh
gfldex m: printf("%x", 1073741824);
camelia rakudo-moar 94a31c: OUTPUT«40000000»
BrokenRobot m: say 1073741824 * 2**16 12:39
camelia rakudo-moar 94a31c: OUTPUT«70368744177664␤»
psch from "we don't do that", to overflow, to "this is too much" :S
gfldex m: printf("%x", 1073741824); say 4 * 0x10000000
camelia rakudo-moar 94a31c: OUTPUT«400000001073741824␤»
gfldex m: printf("%x\n", 1073741824); say 4 * 0x10000000 12:40
camelia rakudo-moar 94a31c: OUTPUT«40000000␤1073741824␤»
BrokenRobot m: 9999999999999999999/70368744177664
camelia rakudo-moar 94a31c: OUTPUT«WARNINGS for <tmp>:␤Useless use of "/" in expression "9999999999999999999/70368744177664" in sink context (line 1)␤»
BrokenRobot m: say 9999999999999999999/70368744177664
camelia rakudo-moar 94a31c: OUTPUT«142108.547152020037160␤»
dalek p/optimize-with-hoopl: 6ffee97 | (Pawel Murias)++ | src/vm/js/ (4 files):
[js] -Ofun actually optimizes nqp::say(nqp::add_i(100, 11)) into nqp::say(111).
 12:52
BrokenRobot :/ well, that's new t/spec/S17-procasync/no-runaway-file-limit.t hanged 13:08
hung 13:09
dalek ast: 3e099c1 | (Zoffix Znet)++ | S03-operators/minmax.t:
Fix incorrect fudge
 13:11
psch so, the UnwindException leaks when we invoke a CR that doesn't have a handler but invokes throwcatdyn_c 13:17
and we can blanket catch those in invokeDirect, because invokeDirect might *want* to leak the because the handler is outside
dalek ast: 1956de4 | (Zoffix Znet)++ | S32-str/chop.t:
Add more tests for .chop with large values

RT#125814
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psch but that doesn't seem to run through handlerDynamic, but instead just up the JavaClass method invokation chain
or, well, it at least doesn't seem to go through handlerDynamic is there isn't a handler 13:19
...actually i can only confidently say that the CX for the return in the map example doesn't go through handlerDynamic
nor does it go through handlerLexical, 'cause then it would already be fixed :| 13:20
tbrowder ref table pod handling: next set of changes, builds okay, table tests pass okay, please see PR github.com/rakudo/rakudo/pull/817 13:57
dalek ast: dbb6a58 | (Zoffix Znet)++ | S19-command-line/repl.t:
Pressing CTRL+D in REPL produces correct output on exit

RT#70297		 14:01
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dalek p: a9380c3 | (Pawel Murias)++ | t/nqp/067-container.t:
Test that the container is passed as an invocant to a method.
 14:14
psch grr 14:39
third time today i get a digit-off-by-one error when trying to check for the category of the UnwindException >_>
i had 66536 once and 65535 twice now
i mean, i just mistyped so it's kinda ok, except 13 minutes compile cycle :| 14:40
that's probably an argument for constants on the jvm level :P 14:47
well, using them, as we actually already have them
dalek p: d90ea08 | peschwa++ | src/vm/jvm/runtime/org/perl6/nqp/runtime/ (2 files):
Minor clean-up and perf improvement.

We can just keep one int int CallSite around instead of allocating a new one every time we want to call into lexicalHandlerNotFoundError.		 14:53
ast: d9781be | (Zoffix Znet)++ | S19-command-line/repl.t:
Exceptions from lazy-evaluated things do not crash REPL

RT#128470		 14:55
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b2gills An improvement for method chop could be ｢my int $len = nqp::chars($str); if $chopping > $len { ... } else { ... }｣ That way the only case where you have to deal with a large Int you don't actually use it ( because str is limited to less than that anyway ) 15:04
BrokenRobot Is debugging unspace problems hard? Thinking of taking a crack at rt.perl.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=128462 15:18
timotimo could be as easy as putting an <.allow_unsp> (or whatever it's called) in the right place 15:19
BrokenRobot sweet, I'll try (/me sees such place) 15:20
gfldex timotimo: you where real good at updating Pod::To::HTML on docs.perl6.org. Could you do it again please? 15:26
timotimo done 15:27
gfldex thanks 15:28
BrokenRobot Nope, that was not the right place. The try-and-see programming approach doesn't really work with rakudo due to the build times involved :) 15:29
And searching online for "What are some things to do while waiting for your code to compile?" really gives terrible results. 15:31
Most common answer: "make your compiling faster" ~_~ 15:32
"Look for more add-ons to add to Chrome, Firefox, your mobile phone, your tablet, or whatever." really? 15:37
gfldex "make your compiling faster" could send lizmat into an infinite loop 15:41
timotimo liz mostly works on the core setting, which doesn't factor into the speed of the compiler, only its run time 15:43
(because that's the input data)
psch BrokenRobot: don't forget about --target=parse 16:37
timotimo ah, right, when you change the parser you don't actually have to build the whole core setting
psch BrokenRobot: and, honestly, the remaining unspace problems might not really be that easy - i think i caught the easy ones already in my early contributions
BrokenRobot Well, I got this: gist.github.com/zoffixznet/6a1a698...65f52fc540 16:38
I tried sticking <.unsp> at various places in <identifier> and <longname> but the only change I produced is it was complaining about no such sub "term\"
psch hrm 16:39
yeah, that one does look somewhat hard from here
i mean, i never looked at the low-prec methodop
so idk what TimToady++ did there to make that work :)
BrokenRobot k, I'll leave it. Plenty of other fruits
psch #78188 looks closeable with tests, if that's to your liking 16:42
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psch m: say &[Xxx]
camelia rakudo-moar 94a31c: OUTPUT«-> + is raw { #`(Block|58035688) ... }␤»
psch m: say &infix:<Xxx>
camelia rakudo-moar 94a31c: OUTPUT«-> + is raw { #`(Block|66025872) ... }␤»
psch m: say &infix:<Xxx>(<a b>, (2,3))
camelia rakudo-moar 94a31c: OUTPUT«((a a) (a a a) (b b) (b b b))␤»
psch BrokenRobot: what kind of bugs are you looking for? LTA errors, grammar..? 16:48
#123903 looks pretty fun, fwiw 16:51
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BrokenRobot Well, I just spotted that unspace one and it looked easy at the first look, so I tried it. 16:53
But it was suggested there was work to be done on the profiler output, so I think I'll hack on that on the weekend. 16:54
sortiz \o #perl6-dev
BrokenRobot \o
psch o/
timotimo if it complains about term\, you'll have to make sure the thing that matches term mustn't try to nom a bare \ 16:55
BrokenRobot Well, this is the only thing I changed, so I'm not even sure how I'd go about noming bare anythings :) gist.github.com/zoffixznet/7ec794b...fa2bdf77fc 16:57
psch well, that means an unspace can belong to an identifier
which is why it complains about "term\"
timotimo right 17:00
that's problematic
BrokenRobot sub term:<term\\> { say 42 }; term\ 17:01
m: sub term:<term\\> { say 42 }; term\
camelia rakudo-moar 94a31c: OUTPUT«42␤»
psch m: sub term:<term\\> { say 42 }; term \ 17:02
camelia rakudo-moar 94a31c: OUTPUT«===SORRY!=== Error while compiling <tmp>␤You can't backslash that␤at <tmp>:1␤------> sub term:<term\\> { say 42 }; term \⏏<EOL>␤ expecting any of:␤ argument list␤ term␤»
psch m: sub term:<term\\> { say 42 }; term \ .Str
camelia rakudo-moar 94a31c: OUTPUT«===SORRY!=== Error while compiling <tmp>␤Undeclared routine:␤ term used at line 1␤␤»
psch those two probably parse with your local change
but, well, it's not an unspace in the CORE sense anymore, but a really weird variable name :P
or term, rather
...or i'm misremembering unspace 17:03
BrokenRobot 7 [Coke] RT: 1338; CONC: 7; GLR: 6; JVM: 69; LHF: 1; LTA: 74; NYI: 28; OSX: 6; PERF: 16; POD: 3; PRECOMP: 4; RFC: 22; SEGV: 22; STAR: 1; TESTNEEDED: 12; TODO: 8; UNI: 5; UNTAGGED: 675; WEIRD: 3 17:05
[Coke]: what's "RT" in that list? The total number of tickets?
'cause on the site it says "Found 1,364 tickets" seems off.
probabilistically, there's a whole ton of "testsneeded" tickets that aren't tagged 17:12
[Coke] BrokenRobot: skipping Stalled tickets 17:40
which right now is primarily macro-related stuff. 17:41
BrokenRobot: sure, I can only report on what's tagged.
my hope with this occasional ping is for devs to go "oh, maybe I'll go fix some segfaults today". :|
(or whatever.)
BrokenRobot I was just curious why there was a difference. 17:42
[Coke] which reminds me: 17:45
RT: 1335; CONC: 7; GLR: 6; JVM: 69; LHF: 1; LTA: 75; NYI: 28; OSX: 6; PERF: 16; POD: 3; PRECOMP: 4; RFC: 22; SEGV: 22; STAR: 1; TESTNEEDED: 15; TODO: 8; UNI: 5; UNTAGGED: 674; WEIRD: 3
PRECOMP: 5 - one was mistagged 17:46
BrokenRobot Do we have a protocol for when 6.c roast has faulty tests? 18:03
Is that was 6.c-errata for? 18:04
s/was/what./;
Specifically this: rt.perl.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=128203 the failures were due to a faulty test. If we can amend the 6.c testsuite, we can revert hoelzro++'s temporary workaround in Test::subtest 18:05
[Coke] where should a doc for "how to deal with tickets for Rakudo Perl 6" go ? 18:16
Given that we need a doc that covers things for 'how to report a bug' to 'how to deal with tickets' and "you know, there are really like 8 different bug queues' 18:17
[Coke] guesses github.com/rakudo/rakudo/wiki is a fine place to start.
some of these wiki pages are (old) and written in .textile. is there a compelling reason to not switch them to .md as I touch things? 18:25
ah, no, since github is dropping textile support.
gfldex m: my class C:ver<1.2.3>:auth<me> {}; say [ C.^ver(), C.^auth ]; 18:49
camelia rakudo-moar 94a31c: OUTPUT«[v1.2.3 me]␤»
gfldex m: my package P:ver<1.2.3>:auth<me> {}; say [ C.^ver(), C.^auth ]; 18:50
camelia rakudo-moar 94a31c: OUTPUT«===SORRY!=== Error while compiling <tmp>␤Undeclared name:␤ C used at line 1␤␤»
gfldex m: my package P:ver<1.2.3>:auth<me> {}; say [ P.^ver(), P.^auth ];
camelia rakudo-moar 94a31c: OUTPUT«Method 'ver' not found for invocant of class 'Perl6::Metamodel::PackageHOW'␤ in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1␤␤»
dalek ast: feb3c86 | (Zoffix Znet)++ | S12-introspection/meta-class.t:
Test basic metamethods on a module
 19:19
ast: c22897b | (Zoffix Znet)++ | S12-introspection/meta-class.t:
Add missing plan to subtest
 19:20
[Coke] anyone mind if I kill this page? github.com/rakudo/rakudo/wiki/NG-issues 19:24
also, might be nice if we got updates here if someone updated rakudo.wiki
dalek ast/RT128579: 95088d8 | (Zoffix Znet)++ | S12-introspection/meta-class.t:
Test basic metamethods for a Package

RT#128579		 19:26
synopsebot6 Link: rt.perl.org/rt3//Public/Bug/Displa...?id=128579
dalek ast: a83ede0 | usev6++ | S32-exceptions/misc.t:
Fudge test for JVM (UnwindException)
 19:30
kudo/nom: 26817b3 | (Zoffix Znet)++ | src/Perl6/Metamodel/PackageHOW.nqp:
Make .ver and .auth MetaModel methods available on Packages

Fixes RT#128579		 19:33
kudo/nom: ae36a14 | moritz++ | src/Perl6/Metamodel/PackageHOW.nqp:
Merge pull request #818 from zoffixznet/fix-RT128579-package-verf

Make .ver and .auth MetaModel methods available on Packages
synopsebot6 Link: rt.perl.org/rt3//Public/Bug/Displa...?id=128579
[Coke] .seen skids
yoleaux2 I saw skids 7 Jul 2016 16:03Z in #perl6-dev: <skids> m: sub a (int() $f) { }; a(9) # maybe if that was brought up to speed it would help with chr
skids o/
dalek ast: fe1d544 | (Zoffix Znet)++ | S12-introspection/meta-class.t:
Test basic metamethods for a Package (#134)

RT#128579
synopsebot6 Link: rt.perl.org/rt3//Public/Bug/Displa...?id=128579
[Coke] skids: removing github.com/rakudo/rakudo/wiki/tasks, ok?
most of it is parrot related, the rest is probably outdated/already in RT. 19:34
skids Yeah, way old, go for it.
gfldex m: enum P:ver<4.2.3>:auth<me@here.local>; 19:44
camelia rakudo-moar 94a31c: OUTPUT«===SORRY!=== Error while compiling <tmp>␤Undeclared name:␤ P:ver<4.2.3>:auth<me@here.local> used at line 1␤Undeclared routine:␤ enum used at line 1␤␤»
gfldex m: my $capture = (2, 3, apples => 2).capture; say $capture.Str; 19:55
camelia rakudo-moar ae36a1: OUTPUT«Method 'capture' not found for invocant of class 'List'␤ in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1␤␤»
gfldex m: my $capture = (2, 3, apples => 2).Capture; say $capture.Str;
camelia rakudo-moar ae36a1: OUTPUT«This representation (VMIter) cannot unbox to a native string (for type BOOTIter)␤ in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1␤␤»
gfldex m: my $capture = (2, 3, apples => 2).Capture; say $capture.perl;
camelia rakudo-moar ae36a1: OUTPUT«\(2, 3, :apples(2))␤»
[Coke] we have 44 unresolved pull requests on rakudo. 19:56
(going back to 2015) 19:57
dalek ast: 5a156d9 | usev6++ | S32-str/comb.t:
Unfudge some tests for JVM
 20:03
gfldex m: my $l = (1,2, :2c); 20:06
camelia ( no output )
gfldex m: my $l = (1,2, :2c); $l.Str.put; 20:07
camelia rakudo-moar ae36a1: OUTPUT«1 2 c 2␤»
dalek ast: f09ad45 | usev6++ | S32-str/comb.t:
Fudge (skip) some tests for JVM
 20:10
bartolin psch++ # we're back to a manageable number of spectest failures on r-j 20:12
psch \o/
still, many things just hidden and not really fixed :|
dalek kudo/nom: 5745195 | peschwa++ | src/core/Capture.pm:
Unbreak Capture.Str. VMIter needs the nqp ops to work.
 20:16
[Coke] rt.perl.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=127050 - this appears to be a DIHWIDT - the role is applied to the literal 1, making a new object; when you ++ you're getting a new instance, a (fresh) 2. No? 20:45
jnthn [Coke]: It's correct behavior. The ticket is confused. 20:49
(So yes, you're correct. :))
[Coke] jnthn: ok, I'll reject. 20:50
jnthn Just to add a little, $i++ is taking the Scalar container $i and changing the value it references.
And the role was, like you said, on the value 1, and now it contains the value 2. 20:51
jnthn didn't manage to look into the latest MMD ticket today, as hoped. :( 20:52
Will see if I find a moment at the weekend.
Prolly gone for the evening :) 20:53
[Coke] reminder, rt.perl.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=128423 - rakudo.org/ is broken.
perlpilot [Coke]: might mention that to pmichaud on #perl6 since he isn't here 20:57
dalek rakudo/nom: a44cdd4 | (Tom Browder)++ | src/Perl6/Pod.nqp:
rakudo/nom: preparing for upcoming changes:
rakudo/nom:
rakudo/nom: + add vars for future use
rakudo/nom: for pattern matching
rakudo/nom: for adding exception handling info
rakudo/nom:
rakudo/nom: + rename 'sub formatted_text' to 'normalize_text'
rakudo/nom: suggested better name
rakudo/nom:
rakudo/nom: + denote two code sections that may be refactored
rakudo/nom: mental prep for more changes
rakudo/nom:
rakudo/nom: + add comments
ast: 407e8c1 | usev6++ | S32-str/comb.t:
Mention ticket RT #128580 for skipped tests
 21:01
synopsebot6 Link: rt.perl.org/rt3//Public/Bug/Displa...?id=128580
dalek ast: 37f9e40 | usev6++ | S32-exceptions/misc.t:
Fudge tests with NPE for rakudo-j
 21:16
psch all those CX handling bugs :( 21:19
it's literally dozends 21:20
bartolin psch: :-/ but on a related note: didn't you intend to change the travis configuration once jvm builds are green again? would now be a good moment to do that? 21:25
psch bartolin: yeah, i suppose we can
bartolin: i mean, install-core-dist.pl runs through completion, so yeah 21:26
dalek kudo/nom: 58c2628 | lizmat++ | src/core/List.pm:
Make List.elems about 4.5x faster

  - don't allocate when we don't need to
  - rewrite logic in nqp, and be smarter about it
  - now also capable of handling bare Lists without $!reified
timotimo wow, damn 21:29
psch i think the osx jvm builds still have some other problem..? 21:31
i have no idea how i'd check, fwiw
well, except via travis :P 21:32
dalek kudo/nom: 5a83924 | peschwa++ | .travis.yml:
Unallow failures for linux/jvm.

I think we have some other problem on OSX, but I can't test that.		 21:33
bartolin this was a recent commit (looks good to me): travis-ci.org/rakudo/rakudo/builds/142733653
psch ah, alright
gonna unallow those too then
dalek kudo/nom: 897c22c | peschwa++ | .travis.yml:
bartolin++ for checking that jvm on OSX works too.
 21:34
bartolin \o/ (but for the records: I'm unable to test on OS X myself) 21:35
psch trusts in travis 21:38
dalek kudo/nom: 110704d | lizmat++ | src/Perl6/Pod.nqp:
Revert "preparing for upcoming changes:"

This reverts commit a44cdd48428a8e44e1d7550bea99305efa7e22d1.
This broke the following spectest files:
t/spec/S26-documentation/block-leading.t t/spec/S26-documentation/module-comment.t t/spec/S26-documentation/block-trailing.t t/spec/S26-documentation/multiline-leading.t t/spec/S26-documentation/multiline-trailing.t t/spec/S26-documentation/wacky.t t/spec/S26-documentation/why-both.t f583f22 | lizmat++ | src/core/List.pm: Make List.Bool about 4x faster
  - don't allocate when we don't need to
  - rewrite logic in nqp, and be smarter about it
  - now also capable of handling bare Lists without $!reified		 21:51
lizmat looks like t/spec/S19-command-line/repl.t needs a fix after recent REPL text changes 22:04
lizmat and this concludes my hacking for today
so good night, #perl6-dev!
dalek ast: 06b24bb | (Zoffix Znet)++ | S12-introspection/meta-class.t:
ID metamethods on a package are absent by design

Per discussion on:
  github.com/rakudo/rakudo/pull/818#...-231468771		 22:09
Zoffix PR to revert :ver and :auth on packages: github.com/rakudo/rakudo/pull/819
sortiz Zoffix, sorry to be PR#815's killjoy :( 23:21

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