| MasterDuke | Zoffix: two overviews of papers about benchmarking blog.acolyer.org/2017/11/06/statis...valuation/ and blog.acolyer.org/2017/11/07/virtua...-and-cold/ | 00:52 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Geth | roast: 6c5aaa7e79 | (Samantha McVey)++ | S32-str/sprintf-b.t Fix incorrect sprintf %b test with + and space options |
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| lizmat | Files=1229, Tests=75812, 317 wallclock secs (14.58 usr 5.29 sys + 2188.44 cusr 214.70 csys = 2423.01 CPU) | 09:35 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Geth | roast: d8f56279d9 | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ | S32-str/sprintf-b.t Unfudge now passing test |
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| Zoffix | 😂Oh gee | 10:23 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| www.reddit.com/r/perl6/comments/7b...ckstarter/ | 10:24 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| jnthn | I'm...not sure that's how killer apps have tended to happen :) | 10:25 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Zoffix | :) | 10:26 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Let's invent the next iPhone while we're at it. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| lizmat | afk for the rest of the day& | 13:04 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| AlexDaniel | Zoffix: lmgtfy.com/?q=how+to+install+rakudo | 13:51 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| audreyable6 | AlexDaniel, perl6.party/post/On-Troll-Hugging-...ommunities | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| AlexDaniel | Zoffix: what are your thoughts on this ↑ | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| it can also give medium.com/@audrey.tang/lessons-i-...f5d8107e34 or pugs.blogs.com/audrey/2009/08/my-ho...gging.html (picked randomly) | 13:52 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| (and currently that's all it does) | 13:53 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| moritz | audreyable6, really? I find that a bit creepy, TBH | 14:00 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| audreyable6 | moritz, I cannot recognize this command. See wiki for some examples: github.com/perl6/whateverable/wiki/Audreyable | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| AlexDaniel | heh, it may be :) huggable is already taken, any other ideas? | 14:03 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| timotimo | "tangible6" | 14:04 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| AlexDaniel | pfffft :D :D | 14:06 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| that's a good one :D | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| timotimo | i see i haven't lost my magic touch | 14:10 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| that being said, i find the bot a strange thing to have | 14:14 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| AlexDaniel | you think it's better to have a human point out that giving links to lmgtfy is not that ok? :) | 14:15 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Zoffix | AlexDaniel: I second moritz's comment :) | 14:16 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Don't really get the point of the bot. The lmgtfy linkage is just one of a billion things that could be unwanted. Will there be a police bot watching over all of them? | 14:17 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| AlexDaniel | yea | 14:18 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Zoffix | I don't want people beaten over the head with troll hugging stuff. It's not something you can just shove in someone's face and expect people to obey. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| AlexDaniel | well, just giving a link isn't so much of policing I think? | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| hmmm | 14:19 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Zoffix | It's a 3,600-word article. It's not something you can just drop in the middle of an ongoing conversation IMO | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| AlexDaniel | alright then. I'll keep it online for a lil bit in case it gives someone ideas on something useful that can be done, but won't even commit it. | 14:21 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Zoffix | As for bot police... I see some people hate ZofBot and all it does is converse when asked. I imagine a right winge if a bot auto-triggered to reprimand someone. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Sure :) | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ZofBot: it's OK... *I* will always love you. | 14:22 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ZofBot | Zoffix, Fate had placed him in a London office, but what he really enjoyed was this unfettered travel | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Zoffix | Thought up another snippet that can tell you whether you're using Perl 5 or Perl 6: .1 + .2 == .3 and say "Perl 6" or say "Perl 5" | 14:36 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| :) | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| [Coke] | Has anyone other than me sent out a lmgtfy link in recent memory? You could just ask me not to do it again. (Which someone already asked in general, and I agree). Not sure that I've given any indication that I'll be a serial offender and require a bot to nag me. | 14:41 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Zoffix | :D | 14:43 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Haha, log shows TimToady himself as an offender :D irclog.perlgeek.de/perl6/search/?n...p;q=lmgtfy | 14:44 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Looks like we do it about once a year. Hardly an epidemic :P | 14:45 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| AlexDaniel | I thought it might me a good start, but whatever :) | 14:46 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| be | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Zoffix | AlexDaniel++ # A for effort. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| AlexDaniel | xD | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| jdv79 | i use lmgtfy on ocassion | 14:56 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Zoffix | I bet the recepients were very greatful for your help :) | 15:00 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Zoffix & for rest of the day | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| jdv79 | they probably got what i would have gotten for them plus a hint | 15:01 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| in the grand scheme is it worth getting worked up over? | 15:03 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| jnthn | lmgtfy.com/?q=is+it+worth+getting+worked+up+over :P | 15:05 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| tangible6 | jnthn, pugs.blogs.com/audrey/2009/08/my-ho...gging.html | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Zoffix | jdv79: "If you cut this chain of souls, saying to someone, “Your step to me is the last step — go back and read the manual,” then their journey of joining the open source process is blocked, and they must find a new upstream before they can continue. So please don’t ever do that. Rather, help a person go down this road together. You can walk this road together much longer and go much farther." | 15:07 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| — medium.com/@audrey.tang/lessons-i-...f5d8107e34 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| jdv79: I think "in the grand scheme of things", is it worth you giving such a reply at all, if you can't be bothered to engage with that human at all? | 15:08 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| It's not even "You can probably find something useful if you search for FOO" type of an answer. It's "you are too stupid to search for this, so here, I did it for you". In fact, the old version of lgmtfy used to show a message to that effect at the end of the animation | 15:09 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| DrForr | Maybe the answer is as simple as changing the macro name? "keyword-to-search" instead of lmgtfy? | 15:12 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| (and redirecting to a Google page with the keyword ready, or one of our pages that we have control over?) | 15:14 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Or, somewhat harder, change channel behavior to say "Oh, in Perl 6 it's called X, try searching for that" instead of typing 'lmgtfy X' | 15:19 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| [Coke] | ... Again, lmgtfy is not an endemic problem here. | 15:23 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| AlexDaniel | .oO( i.redd.it/ez3tte6xnrwz.jpg ) |
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| [Coke] | O_o | 15:27 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Zoffix | www.mappingthejourney.com/single-p...-language/ | 16:17 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| stmuk | rakudo.org/2017/11/09/announce-raku...e-2017-10/ | 16:25 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Zoffix | \o/ stmuk++ | 16:29 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| timotimo | maybe next release we'll drop the "non-blocking i/o" part from "not quite finished"? and suggest sync i/o + threads is good enough for file accesses? | 16:45 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| stmuk | " non-blocking I/O (now works for sockets and process)" was changed and intended to say that. Are you suggesting just deleting the entire line? | 16:47 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Zoffix | Probably. Are we meant to make any other IO non-blocking? | 16:53 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| AlexDaniel | stmuk++ | 17:02 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ugexe | [Coke]: imo that was one instance when lmgtfy was entirely appropriate | 17:22 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Zoffix | ZofBot: LMGTFYGate | 17:36 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ZofBot | Zoffix, 'You aren't going on the stage | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Zoffix | :( | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ilmari | Zoffix: LMGaTeFY | 17:39 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ZofBot: LMGaTeFY | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ZofBot | ilmari, test 11.841 - 11.852 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ilmari | (sorry, mis-tab) | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Zoffix | Actually, I have a useful datapoint on this one. Same person; same effective message: irclog.perlgeek.de/perl6/2017-08-30#i_15090254 here, response: "thank you i completely understand your point. i'm just a little out of my element on this one"; irclog.perlgeek.de/perl6/2017-11-06#i_15410780 here, the response is "i can google just fine." | 17:40 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ugexe | to put it into perspective I would not have continued helping that person if someone hadn't "scolded" them first | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Zoffix & | 17:42 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| jdv79 | thank the gofs async bugs are fewer. my codes work! | 17:54 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| *gods | 17:55 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| its quite funner when stuff works:) | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Zoffix | \o/ | 17:56 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Geth | rakudo: d6cd0d2f53 | usev6++ | src/core/IO/Socket/INET.pm Use nqp::getport on JVM This makes S32-io/IO-Socket-INET.t pass. |
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| AlexDaniel | releasable6: status | 18:19 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| releasable6 | AlexDaniel, Next release in 9 days and ≈0 hours. No blockers. 0 out of 146 commits logged | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| AlexDaniel, Details: gist.github.com/34b3767dd728d14b63...32964f07e7 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Zoffix | lizmat: I said "next Monday" for the brochure… I'm changing my mind and saying next-next-Monday. I'm a feeling a bit burnt out (I do this for work too and we've just finished doing a large catalogue), plus I have this awesome design book I never finished reading... so the extra time will let me read it :) | 20:38 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Plus, there's this really awesome game I started playing: :) www.strangeloopgames.com/eco/ | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Sneak-preview of one of the spreads to make it up :) i.imgur.com/myE0tJJ.png | 20:41 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| yoleaux | 8 Nov 2017 15:23Z <wander> Zoffix: do we have tickets that report the same issue (improperly handle $*variable in REPL)? | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Zoffix | .tell wander Yes: rt.perl.org/Ticket/Display.html?id...et-history You can see all open tickets on fail.rakudo.party (plus GitHub Issues: github.com/rakudo/rakudo/issues P.S.: we also have #perl6-dev | 20:46 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| yoleaux | Zoffix: I'll pass your message to wander. |
