Geth nqp/braids: 575e92bfe2 | (Zoffix Znet)++ | tools/build/MOAR_REVISION
Bump MoarVM

Brings github.com/MoarVM/MoarVM/compare/2...2-g542baec
542baec Merge pull request #537 from MasterDuke17/minor_optimization_to_MVM_string_indexing_optimized 7b2e3d9 Factor out repeated code. 5538029 Del unused var, don't call MVM_string_graphs twice ... (24 more lines)
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nqp/braids: b81a344276 | TimToady++ | src/QRegex/Cursor.nqp
support for pragmas in the braid
nqp/braids: d0d0b146f9 | TimToady++ | tools/build/MOAR_REVISION
Merge branch 'master' into braids
rakudo/braids: 8 commits pushed by (Zoffix Znet)++, TimToady++
TimToady thinks he should likely wait to merge braids till after release, since it's likely to break slang modules, though one can see the point of breaking things earlier as well.,. 02:03
Geth rakudo/nom: c2349d1a6a | (Zoffix Znet)++ | docs/ChangeLog
Fix improval value in changelog

from 0.1 to 1.1 as 0.1 is a decrease
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[Tux] This is Rakudo version 2017.01-221-gc2349d1a6 built on MoarVM version 2017.01-72-g542baec7 07:25
csv-ip5xs 2.860
test 12.704
test-t 5.016 - 5.380
csv-parser 13.370
dogbert11 .seen lizmat 11:38
yoleaux2 I saw lizmat 16 Feb 2017 03:58Z in #perl6-dev: <lizmat> .tell jnthn 62bd30b3d7953ea9b did not fix segfaults on HARNESS_TYPE=6 :-(
dogbert11 .tell lizmat, if you have time could you get the latest rakudo and try harness6 again 11:39
yoleaux2 dogbert11: What kind of a name is "lizmat,"?!
dogbert11 .tell lizmat if you have time could you get the latest rakudo and try harness6 again
yoleaux2 dogbert11: I'll pass your message to lizmat.
lizmat . 12:24
yoleaux2 11:39Z <dogbert11> lizmat: if you have time could you get the latest rakudo and try harness6 again
lizmat ===( 0;229 50/51 1/288 97/97 841/841 134/134 0/? 18/18 1make: *** [m-spectest6] Segmentation fault: 11
:-(
rebuilding from scratch to be sure 12:25
===( 0;249 50/51 0/? 95/97 155/841 158/200 75/134 0/? 35make: *** [m-spectest6] Segmentation fault: 11 13:28
dogbert11: ^^^ :-(
decommute&
dogbert17 lizmat: thx, hmm, how many test jobs are you using? 13:50
Geth nqp/master: 7 commits pushed by (Pawel Murias)++ 15:13
[Coke] tbrowder: are you editing via a git repo or the UI? 15:58
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b2gills Would it be a terrible idea if `Cool.comb` was changed to `multi method comb (Cool:D: |args){ self.Str.comb: |args }` 16:52
Geth roast/self-referential: f45c0445e1 | (Aleks-Daniel Jakimenko-Aleksejev)++ | 2 files
Tests for self-referential things

Some tests were deleted according to the rakudo pull request that removes the error completely. Let's take a look at the deleted tests one by one.
The first test checks that 「is default(%h<foo>)」 gives “Cannot use ... (27 more lines)
roast: AlexDaniel++ created pull request #236:
Tests for self-referential things
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rakudo: AlexDaniel++ created pull request #1020:
Revert "forbid to put variable in initializer of its declaration"
AlexDaniel b2gills: ok, but why? :) 16:55
IOninja b2gills: what is it now? 16:56
s: 42, 'comb'
SourceBaby IOninja, Sauce is at github.com/rakudo/rakudo/blob/c234...ol.pm#L184
AlexDaniel \o/
well almost
IOninja s: "x", 'comb'
SourceBaby IOninja, Sauce is at github.com/rakudo/rakudo/blob/c234...ol.pm#L184
IOninja s: "x", 'comb', \()
SourceBaby IOninja, Sauce is at github.com/rakudo/rakudo/blob/c234...tr.pm#L311
IOninja b2gills: seems a good idea :) 16:57
m: say 42.comb: 2 16:58
camelia rakudo-moar c2349d: OUTPUT«Cannot resolve caller comb(Int: Int); none of these signatures match:␤ (Cool $: *%_)␤ (Cool $: Regex $matcher, $limit = Inf, *%_)␤ (Cool $: Str $matcher, $limit = Inf, *%_)␤ in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1␤␤»
IOninja m: say 42.Str.comb: 2
camelia rakudo-moar c2349d: OUTPUT«(42)␤»
IOninja b2gills: ^ and would fix this bug
b2gills There was a commit that added that, but it somehow didn't actually add it
github.com/rakudo/rakudo/commit/bc...1da93712f5 16:59
github.com/rakudo/rakudo/blob/bcbd...ol.pm#L280
d'oh nevermind, sub vs method 17:02
IOninja Wonder if there's a drawback to making subs just forward the capture too. 17:20
Geth roast: ronaldxs++ created pull request #237:
Remove artifact implimentations (niecza, mildew, kp6)
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nqp: 367839ad8d | (Moritz Lenz)++ | docs/release_guide.pod
release guide: upload instructions for new location

upload to both new and old download site until we've migrated everything
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rakudo/nom: a162c445ba | (Moritz Lenz)++ | docs/release_guide.pod
release guide: upload instructions for new location

upload to both new and old download site until we've migrated everything
20:26
IOninja moritz: were the keys copied to make [email@hidden.address] connectable for stuff that was connectable to [email@hidden.address] 20:29
moritz IOninja: why don't you try it? :-)
IOninja hehe 20:30
moritz++
Geth nqp: f7fb69c672 | (Moritz Lenz)++ | docs/release_guide.pod
release guide: adjust download URL
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rakudo/nom: ffae3ffb89 | (Moritz Lenz)++ | docs/release_guide.pod
release guide: adjust download URL
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star: b3226803ac | (Moritz Lenz)++ | 6 files
Update download URLs
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stmuk_ +Upload the msi package to L<rakudo.org/downloads/star> and L<rakudo.perl6.org/downloads/star/>: 21:03
can't we deprecate rakudo.org? so everything doesn't have to be uploaded twice?
timotimo i wouldn't deprecate it. at least not this month 21:05
i mean, we can put a link in there, sure
jnthn If we get rakudo.perl6.org to be what we'd like to have at rakudo.org, we can probably arrange to have it re-pointed? 21:06
stmuk_ or maybe a redirect at the web server level?
moritz stmuk_: my experience with data migrations is that it's best not to be hasty 21:07
there are lots of pointers to the old URLs still, so best keep it updated for a while
jnthn: yes, but then somebody has to decide what to do with the blog, and if we want to keep it, get a database dump or something 21:08
which I find strictly out of scope for tonight :-)
jnthn For sure :)
stmuk_ I don't see doubling the number of uploads needed as progress and it's risky in terms of sync to depend on people doing this manually
jnthn stmuk_: I don't think anybody is proposing this to the the status quo for years to come :) 21:09
moritz sure, that part isn't progress, but necessary
jnthn But the release is tomorrow and we ain't going to sort the rest out before then :)
stmuk_ true but things have a tendency to stay in place once put there
jnthn Also, I thought much of our release process is automated nowadays 21:10
So it's not a human doing it
I may be over-estimating how much is automated
stmuk_ there should at the least be a deprecation message at rakudo.org/downloads/star/
moritz IOninja: ^^ comment? 21:11
stmuk_: slow down. we shouldn't deprecate it while lots of our current stuff still points there
stmuk_ well it means I need my hack.p6c.org key coping to www.
IOninja Rakudo release is automated and yes, the extra copying is not a problem. I don't believe Rakudo Star release is automated to that level. 21:14
stmuk_ moritz: I think adding a second set of directories was a poor decision
IOninja Deprecation message? We can just redirect the download links. And if we're moving the entire site, redirect the site or something. 21:15
moritz stmuk_: yes, that's clear
IOninja And yes, with the release being tomorrow, let's not nix everything just now :)
stmuk_ IOninja: yes redirecting the download links from r.org is a good idea 21:16
and having a 7 year old star at the top of rakudo.perl6.org/downloads/star/ isn't a good idea
IOninja Yeah, I can do a pretty page there. 21:17
stmuk_ I would prefer all versions of R* before 2016.01 be hidden in an "archive" directory or similar (as I did before)
IOninja Will do.
stmuk_ IOninja++ 21:18
it probably also confuses download stats to have two sets of directories on different systems in production 21:19
moritz I've changed the default sorting to show newest files first 21:22
stmuk_ moritz++
actually maybe long term the releases should just go on CPAN since it's an existing reliable and global system of download mirrors? 21:40
moritz +Inf 21:42
IOninja is ༳ on that
Especially considering how many times PAUSE was down and I couldn't upload jack. 21:43
m: say ༳
camelia rakudo-moar ffae3f: OUTPUT«-0.5␤»
IOninja :)
nine WRT retiring sites or URLs, don't forget that that throws away all the search engine mojo collected for them. 21:47
IOninja which is two URLs that point to a page for which there's an open ticket because its content sucks :) 21:49
lizmat waves from MCO
IOninja But if you do redirects first, I doubt all of mojo will be lost.
Google for example knows when several sites belong to one company. 21:50
MCO... Motorsport Club of Ottawa? Didn't know you were visiting my province!
stmuk_ the trouble with not retiring sites is we still have things like
www.perlfoundation.org/perl6/index.cgi?rakudo 21:51
lizmat IOninja: Orlando Int'l Airport :-)
IOninja :)
nine stmuk_: I just love how that page has a notice about creation and update date but refuses to tell you the year :) 21:52
stmuk_ haha I noticed that too 21:53
its probably 19100 21:54
lizmat continues decommuting& 21:56
IOninja 2010: www.perlfoundation.org/perl6/index....0226195158 23:22
TimToady is anyone testing Inline::Perl5? Mine seems to fail here, even without braids... 23:58
TimToady will try again after a reconfig