Zoffix Filed as rt.perl.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=132186 00:01
BenGoldberg m: my $a = :foo<bar>; my $b = :foo<bar>; .say for $a.WHERE, $b.WHERE; 00:12
camelia 140432301836296
140432301836440
BenGoldberg m: :foo<bar>.WHERE.say for 1..2 00:15
camelia 140243756639768
140243756649696
BenGoldberg m: 42.WHERE.say for 1..2
camelia 140332874332240
140332874332240
BenGoldberg m: "perl".WHERE.say for 1..2 00:16
camelia 140147600526720
140147600526720
BenGoldberg m: pi.WHERE.say for 1..2
camelia 47915808
47915808
BenGoldberg blinks.
Those don't looks like addresses. 00:17
Zoffix Man, I miss Geth 00:19
BenGoldberg was looking through the irc log, read lizmat's two commits, one changing QAST::SVal.new( :value<new> ) expressions with $new variables initialized outside the loop (to reduce memory consumption), then a second where $new variables were replaced with :name<new> expressions, and wondered whether such things as :name<new> were interned somehow, thus saving memory. 00:22
BenGoldberg wonders how hard it would be for literal pairs to be memoized/interned. 00:25
Zoffix What does "interned" mean? 00:27
geekosaur cached for quick lookup and memory reuse, basically. comes from lisp 00:28
Zoffix Ah 00:29
geekosaur in this case it would imply that the variable is being passed by name and instead of making a new container for each time it's passed, the existing one is pointed to instead 00:30
Zoffix P6Bot: hello 00:32
P6Bot: hello 00:33
something's broken with IRC::Client :\ don't wanna subscribe my plugins :\
and even examples no longer work :/ 00:36
MasterDuke hm, AlexDaniel had some trouble with committable6 earlier 00:42
AlexDaniel that's probably not related
what I'm seeing is that the bots refuse to be started by systemd for some reason 00:43
but if I start them from ssh normally, then immediatelly they go up from systemd just fine
it's some sort of permission issue and precomp, maybe 00:44
or something. You see, now $HOME is no longer writable, only .precomp folder is
so anything attempting to write a file anywhere is going to fail
AlexDaniel actually has no idea what exactly precomp does
bisectable6: uptime 00:45
bisectable6 AlexDaniel, 16 hours, 51 minutes, and 29 seconds, 313.628KB maxrss. This is Rakudo version 2017.09-27-gda5c36c13 built on MoarVM version 2017.09.1-7-geeb664ea6 implementing Perl 6.c.
AlexDaniel ↑ this is also a little bit outdated 00:46
Zoffix AlexDaniel: are *ables run on latest rakudo/IRC::Client? 00:50
Having trouble even making this basic bot respond :S github.com/zoffixznet/perl6-IRC-Cl...ase-bot.p6
AlexDaniel Identity: IRC::Client:ver<3.007003>
Zoffix yeah, that's latest :\ 00:51
wtf
I'm not even seeing PRIVMSG show up :\
This is Rakudo version 2017.09-169-gb9c9853 00:52
AlexDaniel
.oO( immediately*… one day I'll learn to spell that right )
Zoffix P6Bot: hello 01:01
P6Bot Zoffix, Hello to you too!
Zoffix well shit, it's possible it's latest rakudos that bustified IRC::Client 01:02
nope. 01:08
Something with my local box. Still broken on the same rakudo version that I got on perl6.party
m: use nqp; nqp::getcomp('perl6').version 01:09
camelia This is Rakudo version 2017.09-169-gb9c98531c built on MoarVM version 2017.09.1-49-gb3dd812aa
implementing Perl 6.c.
Zoffix oh, my downgrade didn't downgrade MoarVM
MasterDuke oh, btw, that io::socket::async IPv6 test fails on my machine also
Zoffix It no longer fails on my VM, though I didn't even attempt at fixing it 01:10
MasterDuke it's fine on my laptop (mostly unmodified kubuntu 17.04), but fails on my desktop (arch linux with IPv6 disabled) 01:11
.tell eater some comments about the IPv6 io::socket::async test irclog.perlgeek.de/perl6-dev/2017-...i_15237813 01:18
yoleaux MasterDuke: I'll pass your message to eater.
Zoffix Yup. Rakudo 01:22
works fine on 2017.09-23-g476741e, broken on 2017.09-169-gb9c98531c 01:23
.tell AlexDaniel FWIW basic IRC::Client bot works fine on 2017.09-23-g476741e, but is broken on 2017.09-169-gb9c98531c. Events don't even show up in debug output. No errors and I'm suspecting they get lost in one of the async constructs that don't catch anything: github.com/zoffixznet/perl6-IRC-Cl...ase-bot.p6 01:24
yoleaux Zoffix: I'll pass your message to AlexDaniel.
AlexDaniel .
yoleaux 01:24Z <Zoffix> AlexDaniel: FWIW basic IRC::Client bot works fine on 2017.09-23-g476741e, but is broken on 2017.09-169-gb9c98531c. Events don't even show up in debug output. No errors and I'm suspecting they get lost in one of the async constructs that don't catch anything: github.com/zoffixznet/perl6-IRC-Cl...ase-bot.p6
AlexDaniel let's bisect it? 01:25
Zoffix has no idea how
AlexDaniel Zoffix: what happens on broken revisions?
irc-to-me does not fire? 01:26
Zoffix AlexDaniel: PRIVMSG events don't show up in debug log (and no, they don't fire): broken gist.github.com/zoffixznet/38d4fb2...15a13f5bbc working (notice the PRIVMSG event shows up at the bottom): gist.github.com/zoffixznet/694aa5a...6030b6ed42 01:27
AlexDaniel something like this should work gist.github.com/AlexDaniel/4c1dbf4...6c2cfaa693 01:29
I'll move to #zofbot to try it
(yes, you'll have to talk to the bot when he comes up, about 10 times)
but that's ok
Geth_ synopsebot: 39f0c93f46 | (Zoffix Znet)++ | bin/synopsebot.p6
Add #zofbot to channels
 01:55
Zoffix blah blah blah RT#132186 #131417 01:56
synopsebot6 Link: rt.perl.org/rt3/Public/Bug/Display...?id=132186
Link: rt.perl.org/rt3/Public/Bug/Display...?id=131417
synopsebot RT#132186 02[new]: rt.perl.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=132186 last updated Fri, 29 Sep 2017 17:01:41 -0700: 02[REGEX][PRECOMP] "getlex: outer index out of range" with precomped `constant` Regex
synopsebot6 Link: rt.perl.org/rt3/Public/Bug/Display...?id=132186
synopsebot RT#131417 04[rejected]: rt.perl.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=131417 last updated Fri, 14 Jul 2017 07:29:49 -0700: 02[BUG] Incorrect useless use warning in `so try await`
synopsebot6 Link: rt.perl.org/rt3/Public/Bug/Display...?id=131417
Zoffix synopsebot6: shush
AlexDaniel Zoffix: fwiw these colors don't look very nice 01:57
Zoffix ZofBot: phhhh! Humans
ZofBot Zoffix, So cur_frame->args might actually be the better place to look, as ncinvoke won't set up a new call frame and thus not initialize cur_frame->params.args
Zoffix They look awesome on my terminal
i.imgur.com/UPrruty.png 01:58
AlexDaniel user-images.githubusercontent.com/...8a5951.png 02:01
m: error 02:02
camelia 5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>
Undeclared routine:
error used at line 1
AlexDaniel e: error
evalable6 (exit code 1) 04===SORRY!04=== Error while compiling /tmp/qliXfAbLz_
Undeclared routine:
error used at line 1
Zoffix AlexDaniel: wtf
u:  29
unicodable6 Zoffix, U+00A0 NO-BREAK SPACE [Zs] ( )
Zoffix, U+0032 DIGIT TWO [Nd] (2)
Zoffix, 4 characters in total ( 29 ): gist.github.com/126036329ffd0ca24b...a499935a5c
Zoffix Ahhh
AlexDaniel Zoffix: camelia is using nicer colors too
that's OK, nevermind nbsp 02:03
Geth_ synopsebot: f0d9373c2f | (Zoffix Znet)++ | lib/SB/Plugin/RT.pm6
Tweakerize
 02:04
Zoffix blah blah blah RT#132186 #131417
synopsebot RT#132186 [new]: rt.perl.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=132186 last updated Fri, 29 Sep 2017 17:01:41 -0700: [REGEX][PRECOMP] "getlex: outer index out of range" with precomped `constant` Regex
RT#131417 [rejected]: rt.perl.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=131417 last updated Fri, 14 Jul 2017 07:29:49 -0700: [BUG] Incorrect useless use warning in `so try await`
Zoffix blah blah blah RT#132186 #131417
blah blah blah RT#132186 #131417 02:05
<3
MasterDuke nice
AlexDaniel for some reason blue color looks horrible everywhere. That's a screenshot from Riot: user-images.githubusercontent.com/...5be19b.png 02:07
unicodable, what the crap was that? I appreciate your new ability to reconnect automatically, but can't you just stay online? 02:09
unicodable6 AlexDaniel, U+0077 LATIN SMALL LETTER W [Ll] (w)
AlexDaniel, U+0068 LATIN SMALL LETTER H [Ll] (h)
AlexDaniel, 113 characters in total: gist.github.com/31142d721cbad7e688...01f2a68f01
AlexDaniel …
MasterDuke: I know what's the problem with it!! 02:10
MasterDuke: there's a .precomp file in lib/ folder
so ReadWritePaths=/home/bisectable/git/whateverable/lib/.precomp
that's it
MasterDuke good catch 02:11
Geth_ synopsebot: b56a5ae89e | (Zoffix Znet)++ | 6 files
Complete old synbot feature transfer

  - Fix Doclinks
  - Impl synopses linker
  - Add uptime/help/bostnack plugin		 03:02
synopsebot: f09b220aa6 | (Zoffix Znet)++ | 3 files
Make file layout closer to old bot

So hopefully I won't have to change the service file		 03:06
Zoffix rakudobrew@hack:~$ rakudobrew build-zef 03:09
Your branch is up-to-date with 'origin/master'.
===> Testing: zef:ver<0.1.29>:auth<github:ugexe>
MoarVM panic: use of invalid eventloop work item index -1
Failed running /home/rakudobrew/rakudobrew/bin/../moar-nom/install/bin/perl6 -Ilib bin/zef test . at /home/rakudobrew/rakudobrew/bin/rakudobrew line 58.
main::run("/home/rakudobrew/rakudobrew/bin/../moar-nom/install/bin/perl6"...) called at /home/rakudobrew/rakudobrew/bin/rakudobrew line 548
main::build_zef() called at /home/rakudobrew/rakudobrew/bin/rakudobrew line 126
>_<
holy crap... it's stil on 2017.01-206-gaac9efc
Zoffix updates 03:10
geth ¦ doc: 8f9443c3ac | (Meow)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | doc/Language/5to6-perlfunc.pod6 03:48
synopsebot Link: doc.perl6.org/language/5to6-perlfunc
Zoffix S22:30 03:49
synopsebot Link: design.perl6.org/S22.html#line_30
Zoffix RT#132186 #131417 RT132148
synopsebot RT#132186 [new]: rt.perl.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=132186 [REGEX][PRECOMP] "getlex: outer index out of range" with precomped `constant` Regex last updated Fri, 29 Sep 2017 17:01:41 -0700
RT#131417 [rejected]: rt.perl.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=131417 [BUG] Incorrect useless use warning in `so try await` last updated Fri, 14 Jul 2017 07:29:49 -0700
RT#132148 [open]: rt.perl.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=132148 [RFC] native 'str' type unspecced, undocumented, and ill-defined last updated Thu, 28 Sep 2017 10:56:47 -0700 03:50
Zoffix RT#132186 #131417 RT132148
Zoffix meow RT#132015
synopsebot RT#132015 [new]: rt.perl.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=132015 [LTA] Backtraces for errors in EVAL print nonexistent paths (‘foo’.EVAL) last updated Fri, 01 Sep 2017 15:00:44 -0700
Zoffix Perfect.
Transformation complete.
ZofBot: nice working with you
ZofBot Zoffix, "is assoc" Specifies the associativity of an operator explicitly
Geth_ synopsebot: 244db08dbb | (Zoffix Znet)++ | lib/SB/Plugin/RT.pm6
Remove "last updated" info from RT tickets

Too much info and too little use for last updated		 03:52
Zoffix meow RT#132015 03:53
synopsebot RT#132015 [new]: rt.perl.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=132015 [LTA] Backtraces for errors in EVAL print nonexistent paths (‘foo’.EVAL)
AlexDaniel blah #130442
synopsebot RT#130442 [new]: rt.perl.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=130442 [REGRESSION] [LTA] redo without a loop no longer prints the line number, also claims it is a compile-time error (redo)
AlexDaniel oh noes, I no longer have a favorite open ticket 03:54
nine .tell Zoffix added your user to the camelia VM where geth is running 04:18
yoleaux 29 Sep 2017 21:40Z <AlexDaniel> nine: Geth is down
nine: I'll pass your message to Zoffix.
29 Sep 2017 22:48Z <Zoffix> nine: would I have the option to getting keys to geth so I could restart it, or pull new changes to it, if needed?
Geth rakudo/nom: 415e9adb96 | (Tom Browder)++ | 9 files
changes for Texas => ASCII
 07:53
rakudo/nom: 9bbfed162b | lizmat++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | 9 files
Merge pull request #1176 from tbrowder/texas

changes for Texas => ASCII
[Tux] This is Rakudo version 2017.09-171-g9bbfed162 built on MoarVM version 2017.09.1-50-g3059ba28 09:10
csv-ip5xs 1.318 - 1.329
test 9.816 - 9.902
test-t 3.198 - 3.251
csv-parser 12.367 - 12.640
lizmat afk for rest of the day& 09:53
timotimo buggable: speed 10 09:54
buggable timotimo, ▅↑█▆▃▂▁▁▂▁ dates: 2017-09-28–2017-09-30; range: 3.183s–4.010s; speed: 12% faster
Geth_ synopsebot: 895a6adf03 | (Zoffix Znet)++ | 2 files
Reword %seen business
 11:16
Geth synopsebot: 895a6adf03 | (Zoffix Znet)++ | 2 files
Reword %seen business
 11:17
AlexDaniel squashable6: status 11:27
squashable6 AlexDaniel, Next SQUASHathon in 5 days and ≈22 hours (2017-10-07 UTC-12⌁UTC+14) 11:28
timotimo releasable6: status 11:31
releasable6 timotimo, Next release in 21 days and ≈7 hours. No blockers. Changelog for this release was not started yet
timotimo, Details: gist.github.com/46a441880f2737503a...a4ed11633f
Geth roast: tbrowder++ created pull request #338:
changes for Texas => ASCII		 11:38
roast: 19a273a224 | (Tom Browder)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | 15 files
changes for Texas => ASCII (#338)
Zoffix This is weird: 11:58
m: with (Seq.new: class :: does Iterator { method pull-one { say "pull"; $++ < 3 ?? $++ !! IterationEnd } }.new,).map(|*).skip { .sink; .say }
camelia pull
This Seq has already been iterated, and its values consumed
(you might solve this by adding .cache on usages of the Seq, or
by assigning the Seq into an array)
in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1

pull
pull
pull
Zoffix How come the remaining 3 pulls are after the error?
m: with (Seq.new: class :: does Iterator { method pull-one { say "pull"; $++ < 3 ?? $++ !! IterationEnd } }.new,).map(|*) { .iterator.sink-all; .perl.say } 12:03
camelia pull
pull
pull
pull
Seq.new-consumed()
Zoffix c: 2017.07 with (Seq.new: class :: does Iterator { method pull-one { say "pull"; $++ < 3 ?? $++ !! IterationEnd } }.new,).map(|*).skip { .sink; .say }
committable6 Zoffix, ¦2017.07: «pull␤pull␤pull␤pull␤This Seq has already been iterated, and its values consumed␤(you might solve this by adding .cache on usages of the Seq, or␤by assigning the Seq into an array)␤ in block <unit> at /tmp/SEq04fO07k line 1␤ «exit code = 1»»
Zoffix I guess something with buffering and STDERR/STDOUT
.tell AlexDaniel (for release review): don't know if it's a problem or not, but noticed on HEAD this code consistently outputs 3 "pull"s after the error, while in the past all 4 "pulls" came before it: irclog.perlgeek.de/perl6-dev/2017-...i_15239023 12:05
yoleaux Zoffix: I'll pass your message to AlexDaniel.
Zoffix .tell AlexDaniel nevermind. I need more coffee >_< one version does .skip and the other doesn't 12:08
yoleaux Zoffix: I'll pass your message to AlexDaniel.
Zoffix Would be cool to have a bool version of `andthen` that aliases to $_ 12:13
Second time today finding myself wanting to do `$foo and return $foo`
.oO( $foo andso .return )
jnthn .return if .so given $foo 12:14
Zoffix Thanks
Tried making a module, but no idea how to make thunks in userland github.com/zoffixznet/perl6-AndSo
jnthn Not quite as cute, but gets to one mention of $foo
AlexDaniel c: 2017.07 with (Seq.new: class :: does Iterator { method pull-one { note "pull"; $++ < 3 ?? $++ !! IterationEnd } }.new,).map(|*).skip { .sink; .say } 12:15
yoleaux 12:05Z <Zoffix> AlexDaniel: (for release review): don't know if it's a problem or not, but noticed on HEAD this code consistently outputs 3 "pull"s after the error, while in the past all 4 "pulls" came before it: irclog.perlgeek.de/perl6-dev/2017-...i_15239023
committable6 AlexDaniel, ¦2017.07: «pull␤pull␤pull␤pull␤This Seq has already been iterated, and its values consumed␤(you might solve this by adding .cache on usages of the Seq, or␤by assigning the Seq into an array)␤ in block <unit> at /tmp/LG_6wuI5A1 line 1␤ «exit code = 1»»
yoleaux 12:08Z <Zoffix> AlexDaniel: nevermind. I need more coffee >_< one version does .skip and the other doesn't
AlexDaniel c: 2017.07,HEAD with (Seq.new: class :: does Iterator { method pull-one { note "pull"; $++ < 3 ?? $++ !! IterationEnd } }.new,).map(|*).skip { .sink; .say }
committable6 AlexDaniel, gist.github.com/c3c03a20aaab432b06...34e7d1f787
AlexDaniel Zoffix: Isn't it just that the stdout/stderr merging happens a little bit differently (which is ok)? gist.github.com/Whateverable/d0651...1c2b7f87a8 12:17
either way coffee that is
Zoffix No, the output is the same with same code. I just mistakenly used different code 12:18
AlexDaniel ah right, you said it. Should backlog till the end before writing any of my stupid answers :D
Zoffix :)
AlexDaniel and yea, I did already bisect it to 4b02b8aadcb47… :) 12:19
ah, that's in the gist even… OK, more coffee for me please /o\ 12:20
thinking about it, bisectable does not pretend to be a TTY so it will give a different result than what most people will see in their terminal :S 12:44
Zoffix calls dibs on RT132109 12:45
synopsebot RT#132109 [open]: rt.perl.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=132109 [BUG] `.skip` on a sequence starting with a `Slip`, returns a corrupted `Seq`
Zoffix Already fixed it, but the bug exists in half a dozen other cases and I need to hunt them down and write tests, but gotta $do-other-things first
will push in 5hr 12:46
Zoffix &
AlexDaniel (v6.d prep?)
.oO*
Zoffix ?
AlexDaniel Zoffix: just kidding, but I thought you were in v6.d-prep mode
Zoffix Well, it stalled since I found out there's currently no way to find caller's version and I don't think I know enough to fix that 12:47
github.com/perl6/6.d-prep/blob/mas...s-language
I guess not quite stalled. There's still 1000+ roast commits to review :D 13:19
m: (<a b c>, <d e>).map(-> $a, $b {|$_}).iterator.^name.say 14:03
camelia Any::IterateTwoWithoutPhasers
Zoffix m: (<a b c>, <d e>).map(-> $a, $b {NEXT $++; |$_}).iterator.^name.say
camelia Any::IterateMoreWithPhasers
Zoffix oh, disregard. I thought there was a TwoWithPhasers 14:04
yoleaux Zoffix: make separate t/spectest.data for each language version, bruh 14:06
Zoffix yoleaux: already done, bruh
Geth rakudo/nom: 41896b7bbf | (Zoffix Znet)++ | src/core/Any-iterable-methods.pm
Fix .push-all/.skip-all on SlippyIterators

Fixes RT#132109: rt.perl.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=132109
The implemented methods forget to check whether we're currently
  $!slipping, which causes loss of all the remaining elements in the
currently slipping Slip.
Fix by add ing a check for $!slipping and doing self.skip-one and pushing (or skipping) those values before we go into the main loop of pulling more from the source iterator.		 15:23
timotimo good catch 15:24
Zoffix <synopsebot> RT#132109 [open]: rt.perl.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=132109 [BUG] `.skip` on a sequence starting with a `Slip`, returns a corrupted `Seq`
timotimo why didn't synopsebot write that?
Zoffix 'cause I tested whether the semicolon works in #zofbot first and the %seen check is currently broken in that it doesn't consider the channel where the RT was seen :P
timotimo ah 15:25
Geth roast: 2e23965fa1 | (Zoffix Znet)++ | S32-list/skip.t
Test SlippyIterators correctly .push-all/.skip-all

RT#132109: rt.perl.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=132109 Rakudo fix: github.com/rakudo/rakudo/commit/41896b7bbf
timotimo i wonder if synopsebot should even still be called synopsebot. when did we last use it to link to the design docs? 15:26
quotable6: synopsebot.*design.perl6.org
that's not how that bot works?
Zoffix quotable6: help 15:27
quotable6 Zoffix, Like this: quotable6: /^ ‘bisect: ’ / # See wiki for more examples: github.com/perl6/whateverable/wiki/Quotable
timotimo, gist.github.com/83b13b98f160c95882...37a3a428d9
Zoffix quotable6: /synopsebot.*design.perl6.org/
Oh, it did respond 15:28
quotable6 Zoffix, gist.github.com/a69cb8c2e97b475c22...9f3bce5fb1 15:29
timotimo hah
S99:foo
synopsebot Link: design.perl6.org/S99.html#foo
timotimo it does give links to design.perl6.org now, but it doesn't seem like it did that in a long time 15:30
wait ... it never did that?
quotable6: synopsebot.*perlcabal
Geth synopsebot: 03acd9f59a | (Zoffix Znet)++ | lib/SB/Plugin/RT.pm6
Make RT seen-er see per-channel
Zoffix timotimo: pretty sure I copied the text it gives from the old guts 15:31
quotable6 timotimo, gist.github.com/79e59ab3826865e8ea...9794d6017d
timotimo that's not the problem :) 15:32
Zoffix RT#132109
synopsebot RT#132109 [resolved]: rt.perl.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=132109 [BUG] `.skip` on a sequence starting with a `Slip`, returns a corrupted `Seq`
timotimo i'm just wondering, with the synopses not being as interesting any more ...
Zoffix RT#132109
k, works correctly now
timotimo i think we should remove the debug output for when a class fails to get a generated BUILDALL 15:39
Geth rakudo/nom: 4d0ead240a | (Timo Paulssen)++ | src/Perl6/Metamodel/ClassHOW.nqp
don't output when add_method for BUILDALL fails.
 15:40
timotimo i triggered it with zef, but that's probably because my zef still has its own BUILDALL
m: class test { submethod BUILDALL { } }
camelia ( no output )
timotimo m: class test { method BUILDALL { } }
camelia ( no output )
timotimo m: class test { method BUILDALL(|) { } }
camelia ( no output )
timotimo m: class test { submethod BUILDALL(|) { } }
camelia ( no output )
timotimo hmm
m: class test { has $.foo; submethod BUILDALL(|) { } } 15:41
camelia test failed to add a BUILDALL
timotimo there it is
something bad is happening in Data::Dump::Tree where rakudo gets confused parsing the pod in the beginning of the file 15:49
in all files actually 15:50
well, multiple files anyway 15:51
nine Odd. I now got it to compile optimized function bodies for native calls at CHECK time but when I load a precompiled Inline::Perl5, they are not there ($!optimized-body of the Routine) anymore and it compiles again. 16:02
Ah, I probably need to do something with the deserialize_ast 16:03
AlexDaniel err yeah quotable doesn't really include the nickname of the sender 16:13
also no timestamp and no channel :(
ugexe should i be able to use $*USAGE outside of a MAIN block? e.g. to modify the usage output shown when a bad command is entered 16:19
`perl6 -e '$*USAGE.subst(/Usage/, "Foosage"); sub MAIN(Int $a) { }' 1` doesn't work for instance 16:20
`multi sub MAIN(Int $a) { }; multi sub MAIN(|) { say $*USAGE.subst(/Usage/, "Foosage"); };` works I guess 16:33
Zoffix ugexe: no, it's dynamically scoped to sub MAIN and sub USAGE. 16:43
(more accurately: to MAIN_HELPER that then invokes MAIN or USAGE) 16:49
AlexDaniel evalable6 is on the strike :S 17:08
timotimo who's on first? 17:10
uh oh 17:15
nativecall arrays.t crashed in one of the travis jobs
quotable6: ZOFFLOP 17:16
quotable6 timotimo, gist.github.com/9ba33f043ccc6fcf52...015a48d5f2 17:17
nine Odd again is that finish_code_object doesn't need to do anything in the deserialize_ast 17:21
timotimo: any error message? 17:22
timotimo looks like it crashes, but there was no output because prove wasn't told to output anything
hm. perhaps we should do something like "make test or make test VERBOSE=1" so that if the test fails it'll run again but with output?
Zoffix why not run it verbose from the start? 17:24
timotimo hm, let's see how much output it is
Zoffix Oh, you weren't talking about travis. Neveermind...
timotimo well, VERBOSE=1 isn't the right one 17:25
it's a bunch of output, but not gigantic 17:28
and --verbosity=1 is not compatible with any --jobs but 1
oh no, the timezone on this shellhost is ... not what i was expecting
Zoffix There'll be a bunch more output soon. There's a swath of tests that isn't running ATM. I meant it would be nice to enable verbose output by default on travis so that it'd showed what the failure was 17:29
timo praise be the /upgrade command in weechat 17:30
Zoffix "Upgrade done (0.58 seconds)" that was too fast :/ 17:31
"WeeChat 1.0.1" ... is that the latest version? 17:32
guess not, since timotimo is on 1.9 :P
timotimo oh, /upgrade is just so it execs itself but keeps buffers and stuff around 17:33
Zoffix AH 17:34
timotimo i used it after setting the TZ env var from inside weechat with "/set env ..."
AlexDaniel timotimo: fwiw I don't think it's the latest version (so it does not show the most recent flops) 17:36
I'll work on it now
timotimo latest version of the irc logs? 17:37
AlexDaniel yea 17:38
timotimo i didn't know we version our logs :) 17:46
AlexDaniel … I do :) When talking about quotable there are two versions: “outdated” and “up-to-date” 17:48
.oO( we will get quotable with up-to-date logs on Christmas, I just don't know which one )
 17:50
timotimo oh no ... you didn't put question marks before and after those words, right? 17:51
is something in my weechat-to-terminal chain broken again? >_>
AlexDaniel timotimo: no, these are curly quotes 17:52
timotimo oh, did i have to set LC_ALL ... 17:53
AlexDaniel lol, it probably renders ¿ the wrong way too :D
yoleaux Zoffix: so, what's happening with $?USAGE? 18:40
Zoffix yoleaux: it's completed. Now known as $*USAGE
nine Ha! The else block in src/NQP/World.nqp:353 is dead code. There hasn't been a replacecoderef op since parrot went away. 18:43
BenGoldberg m: dd $*USAGE 19:06
camelia Failure.new(exception => X::Dynamic::NotFound.new(name => "\$*USAGE"), backtrace => Backtrace.new)
Zoffix It's dynamically scoped to sub MAIN and sub USAGE. 19:07
m: sub MAIN($x, $y, $z) {}; sub USAGE { $*USAGE.flip.say } 19:08
camelia >z< >y< >x< odFq23jB6O-elif-toblave/pmt/
:egasU
Geth synopsebot: 18e6b39407 | (Zoffix Znet)++ | META6.json
Add missing modules to META
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synopsebot: 8b893d6153 | (Zoffix Znet)++ | 5 files
Seen-protect doclinks and synlinks too
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synopsebot: 21379e6d42 | (Zoffix Znet)++ | lib/SB/Plugin/RT.pm6
Remove dead code
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synopsebot: 5531a83267 | (Zoffix Znet)++ | META6.json
Fix meta module path
 20:05
sjn is there a way to make MAIN accept a string as the first argument (e.g. "multi MAIN ("save", Str :$filename) { ... }" )? 20:46
...in such a way that one can run that script in a similar way that git works? (e.g. "myprogram save --filename=foo") 20:48
Zoffix AFAIK named params have to come before positioonals. There's a stale PR implementing the git-way 20:50
sjn tries to find that PR 21:02
github.com/rakudo/rakudo/pull/688 21:03
Zoffix Wonder what sort of exception to make for runtime errors with `**` quantier, like this one: 21:06
m: say "foo" ~~ /. ** { "a" .. "c" }/
camelia Cannot convert string to number: base-10 number must begin with valid digits or '.' in '3⏏5a' (indicated by ⏏)
in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1
Zoffix All the `Regex` errors are subclasses of X::Syntax, but this doesn't seem to be about syntax, but rather about runtime value
m: try "3".parse-base: 42; $!.^name.say 21:07
camelia X::Syntax::Number::RadixOutOfRange
Zoffix This one is syntax too .... though maybe that's just also a poor exception type 21:08
timotimo we do have a variable that lets you configure the argument parser and you can tell it to allow named arguments anywhere, i.e. also after positionals 21:09
Zoffix oh right 21:10
m: @*ARGS = <foo --meow=42>; (my %*SUB-MAIN-OPTS)<named-anywhere> := 1; sub MAIN("foo", :$meow) { dd $meow } 21:11
camelia IntStr $meow = IntStr.new(42, "42")
Zoffix sjn: ^
sjn Zoffix: thanks. I'd prefer that the literal string would be allowed by default, though. 21:21
sjn thinks that PR is still worth fixing and accepting
AlexDaniel hears “core rakudo regression” and is ready to bisect 21:22
Zoffix sjn: would be worth find it out why it wasn't allowed originally 21:23
s/find it/finding/; 21:24
sjn would guess it's because of "this was the way to do things when the spec was written"
Zoffix would guess the <named-anywhere> has ambiguities the current way doesn't 21:26
sjn ETOOMUCHBENDINGOVERBACKWARDS 21:27
geekosaur that can go both ways; sometimes things get punted to the ecosystem because supporting them in core is too much bending over backwards 21:36
Zoffix well, it *is* currently supported in core :D 21:37
AlexDaniel Zoffix: fwiw gist.github.com/Whateverable/b38da...23de648cca
Zoffix m: say q|(my %*SUB-MAIN-OPTS)<named-anywhere> = 1|.chars
camelia 40
Zoffix half a line of code to enable it
geekosaur or, otherwise put: do you want your perl script to take over a minute to start because there's a half-sentient arg parser in play instead of a simple/works for most uses one?
sjn doesn't mind a smart arg parser (and consequently, a smart usage text generator) 21:38
if it ever should gain sentienence, we have other problems. :) 21:39
Zoffix AlexDaniel: so it does fail on 2017.09?
AlexDaniel Zoffix: fails everywhere. The string that it is attempting to test is “IO::Path::ChildSecure is a builtin type, not an external module\n in block <unit> at -e line 13\n\n” 21:40
what does it mean?
Zoffix sjn: but the problem geekosaur pointed out is performance, not sentience :P
AlexDaniel: ohh
AlexDaniel: this rt.perl.org/Ticket/Display.html?id...et-history 21:41
Oh wait
well, I was gonna say the bot's restricted 21:42
But don't see anything obvious in module that'd block it
m: with '/tmp/ZZZ777'.IO.mkdir { .add("Foo.pm6").spurt: "unit class IO::Path::Foo;" } 21:43
camelia ( no output )
AlexDaniel it's not restricted anyway
buuut some paths are not writable, yeah 21:44
Zoffix m: with '/tmp/ZZZ777/IO/Path/'.IO.mkdir { .add("Foo.pm6").spurt: "unit class IO::Path::Foo;" }
camelia ( no output )
Zoffix m: use lib </tmp/ZZZ777/>; use IO::Path::Foo
camelia ( no output )
Zoffix m: use lib </tmp/ZZZ777/>; use IO::Path::Foo; IO::Path::Foo.new
camelia ( no output )
Zoffix No idea 21:45
Zoffix &
AlexDaniel
.oO( bisectable for python can be called pysectable )
 21:58
.oO( “?.oO( … )” ? )
 22:00
huggable: clog 22:01
huggable AlexDaniel, nothing found
AlexDaniel huggable: irclog
huggable AlexDaniel, nothing found
AlexDaniel huggable: log
huggable AlexDaniel, Comes out 2.41x faster than core .log10 and can handle Ints larger than 1.8e308: gist.github.com/zoffixznet/2539e8b...43e173fe8f
AlexDaniel huggable: irc log
huggable AlexDaniel, nothing found

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