Zoffix Calling a method on a role puns it, right? 00:58
m: say Positional[Numeric].ACCEPTS: Positional[Int]
camelia True
Zoffix m: say Positional[Numeric].^pun.ACCEPTS: Positional[Int]
camelia False
Zoffix m: say Positional[Numeric].self.ACCEPTS: Positional[Int] 01:00
camelia False
Zoffix m: use nqp; dd nqp::istype(Positional[Int], Positional[Cool]) 01:01
camelia 1
Zoffix Is it supposed to do that?
FWIW this was rt.perl.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=128866 01:09
Zoffix is going through tickets he marked as "easy; try to fix" a year ago.... Obviously my judgement on what constitutes "easy" was off heh 01:10
mst: are you around? What was the Perl 5 module you told me to use when I complained that I had to `use` a ton of modules? 01:25
Oh. I can connect to my office box and check! 01:29
don't remember where the hell I used it 01:37
Ah! It was closer home: github.com/perl6/modules.perl6.org...lass.pm#L3 01:38
mst: never mind. it was Import::Into
Damn. Almost bed time and I'm bugless for today. 02:34
ZofBot: find me a bug to fix, bruh
ZofBot Zoffix, path; tmpdir Returns a string representation of the first writable directory from a list of possible temporary directories
Zoffix ZofBot: that's a lie! It also checks .x and .r! 02:35
ZofBot Zoffix, ] Nesting of metaoperators Anywhere you may use an ordinary infix operator, you may use the infix operator enclosed in square brackets with the same meaning
Zoffix Cool. Good to know.
Well, time for bed. But I got one in my crosshairs. 02:59
Gonna catch you tomorrow, bug! You have one day to live!
TimToady looks forward to repairing a tire with a screw sticking out of the tread tomorrow... 03:15
it's been very much a hardware week here; first replacing two tiny capacitors in a power supply, then one huge capacitor in my air conditioner condenser unit 03:16
TimToady will also have to replace the furnace controller at some point, since the old one is currently working only by yanking the connectors to one side using a rubber band, and the base of the connector the other direction by wedging in the tail of a plastic dinosaur 03:24
(obviously a loose connection in the circuit board, but I'll just replace the whole controller, since the bits that would need resoldering are not terribly accessibly)
but this week we only needed the cooler, so that's what died, of course 03:25
at least our car was smart enough to tell us it was getting a flat tire, which is something... 03:26
ObiWanGoldberg tirepressuremonitor++? 03:34
samcv guys the servers are down 04:58
docs.perl6.org and design.perl6.org :-(
Zoffix, you have access to those servers right? 04:59
[Tux] This is Rakudo version 2017.04.3-172-gf2af3db16 built on MoarVM version 2017.04-57-g8d8a09b9 05:55
csv-ip5xs 3.087
test 12.789
test-t 4.332 - 4.376
csv-parser 13.053
stmuk samcv: they work for me now 05:57
samcv docs seems back up now 05:58
Geth star: c8326966aa | (Steve Mynott)++ | tools/star/release-guide.pod
note 2017.04 release in release-guide.pod
 07:39
samcv stmuk, yeah it was down and got back up like a bit ago. but i tested on those is it down websites and was down for places other than me. and were the only sites that didn't load on my laptop 07:54
though hack.p6c.org loaded but that's on a diff server
hmm change i made to compunit was fine until i tried to install it 07:59
lizmat will be mostly offline until late Monday afternoon 08:44
(JIT for next week's P6W) 08:45
Geth nqp/master: 13 commits pushed by (Pawel Murias)++
review: github.com/perl6/nqp/compare/c60df...e1ba263e92		 09:22
nqp: cd0e37a8c4 | (Pawel Murias)++ | src/vm/jvm/runtime/org/perl6/nqp/sixmodel/reprs/P6intInstance.java
[jvm] Implement cloning a P6int
 09:23
Zoffix samcv: yeah, I do 09:41
samcv sites are back up. you can disregard that 09:42
Zoffix seems to work fine now.
Either I'm having a bad case of deja vu or RT is re-sending a bunch of emails from a few days ago :/ 09:49
Well, actually I have root access to the box the sites are hosted on, but if they were flat on their face, that sounds like access to "hypervisor" or whatever is needed and I don't have that. moritz does tho 09:53
Great... "rainfall warning"... and my umbrella's broke 09:59
ZofBot: 2 inches... is that a lot?
ZofBot Zoffix, IO coercer Path names are just strings ("Str")
jnthn Yes :P 10:04
Zoffix Uber it is, then :) 10:06
moritz /win 4 10:15
buggable moritz, Thank you for entering Accidental /win Lottery! The next draw will happen in 3 weeks, 6 days, 13 hours, 44 minutes, and 38 seconds
moritz buggable++
pmurias what are the prizes in the 'Accidental /win Lottery'? 10:17
tadzik an irssi script that with safeguards? ;) 10:18
but see, the robots ridicule us now, it's just a joke. Next thing, the moment you paste your nickserv identify accidentally, a bot is going to identify, ghost it, change the password and demand ransom 10:20
moritz oh, good idea tadzik :-) 10:22
Zoffix pmurias: they include everything you could possibly need to get through life.
buggable: draw 10:23
buggable Zoffix, The next Accidental /win Lottery draw will happen in 3 weeks, 6 days, 13 hours, 36 minutes, and 59 seconds. Currently have 3 ballots submitted by 3 users!
tadzik moritz: it could probably be well disguised as useful, rather than malicious too :) ā€œYou seem to have accidentally pasted your password. I will now keep your account secure for you, please provide a picture with a shoe on your head for verificationā€ 10:24
moritz ... and 0.1btc processing fee 10:25
Geth nqp: 9c4bd91316 | (Pawel Murias)++ | src/vm/js/nqp-runtime/core.js
[js] Fix style violation found by make js-lint
 10:58
nqp: 54d7e211ac | (Pawel Murias)++ | 7 files
[js] Tweak multi caches to cache rw containers separately
Zoffix m: (1, |(1...*)).iterator.is-lazy.say 11:38
camelia False
Zoffix Should that be true?
m: (1, |(1...*)).is-lazy.say 11:39
camelia True
Zoffix Cause that is true
Maxing it true fixes a bug with slurpies, but I wonder if it's a bad idea 11:40
Well, the fix is calling .reify-until-lazy on $!todo instead of just calling is-lazy on it and that makes me wonder what point is-lazy is 11:41
ZofBot: tell me I'm right
ZofBot Zoffix, The mystical class from which all other classes are derived (ē„”)
Zoffix Sounds like a name for an RPG
s/Maxing/Making/; 12:03
Oh. Never mind. 12:05
m: say [1, 5, |(1..*)].map(*.self).join
camelia ...
Zoffix m: say [1, 5, |(1..*)].iterator.iz-lazy.say
camelia No such method 'iz-lazy' for invocant of type '<anon|439200352>'
in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1
Zoffix m: say [1, 5, |(1..*)].iterator.is-lazy.say 12:06
camelia True
True
Zoffix oh
m: say [1, 5, |(1..**)].iterator.is-lazy.say
camelia Cannot resolve caller Real(HyperWhatever: ); none of these signatures match:
(Mu:U \v: *%_)
in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1
Zoffix m: say [1, 5, |(1...*)].iterator.is-lazy.say
camelia True
True
Zoffix ...
m: (1, |(1...*)).iterator.is-lazy.say
camelia False
Zoffix m: (1, |(1...*)).join.say
camelia 1...
Zoffix Yeah. Thank. It works but in my bug doesn't so likely 'cause is not iterator being false is-lazy 12:07
s/Thank/That/;
OTOH: 12:09
m: (1...*).List.put
camelia ...
Zoffix m: (1, |(1...*)).List.put
camelia 1 ...
Zoffix oh
nm
m: dd (1, |(1...*)).List.Seq 12:26
camelia Cannot .elems a lazy list
in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1

Actually thrown at:
in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1
Zoffix rakudo (nom)$ ./perl6 -e 'm: dd (1, |(1...*)).List.Seq'
(1, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9... lazy list)
my local version is right-er, right?
moritz: how come trying to visit the log site too fast returns a 403? Like opening #perl6-dev and #perl6 logs at the same time. If you do it really fast, no 403, if you do it fast-ish, you get a 403 on whichever page loaded second, if you keep refreshing the 403 it stays a 403 and if you wait a bit, it goes away? Also, noticing this on desktop browsers only. Don't seem to happen on my smartphone, in Opera 12:42
browser.
kinda annoying when you wanna catch up with a couple of channels. 12:43
Is this some sort of anti-scraper protection?
moritz Zoffix: rate limiting, maybe 12:47
Zoffix Ah
ugh. Well, I fixed my bug, but now say (1, |(1...*)).List.Seq[^10] appears to hang :'( 12:51
can't win
oh, even (1, |(1...*))[^10] hangs :S 12:53
Ahhh. I know why!
After 3 hours of messing around, looks like I have a fix. Affects code in all *slurpies :/ I could use a `make bench` right about now :/ 13:37
Geth rakudo/nom: 5e6b38789a | (Zoffix Znet)++ | src/core/List.pm
Reify until lazy when making a flat slurpy

Fixes RT#128201: rt.perl.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=128201
The hang in the ticket is due to .map/.join in .gist not seeing
  .is-lazy of the original arg. So when making a slurpy, we reify
  $!todo until lazy, so that if we have lazy stuff, we set is lazy for
slurpy's iterator.		 13:48
synopsebot6 Link: rt.perl.org/rt3/Public/Bug/Display...?id=128201
roast: 5653ebb91b | (Zoffix Znet)++ | S06-signature/slurpy-params.t
Test .gist on slurpies given inf lists does not hang

RT#128201: rt.perl.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=128201 Rakudo fix: github.com/rakudo/rakudo/commit/5e6b38789a		 13:49
synopsebot6 Link: rt.perl.org/rt3/Public/Bug/Display...?id=128201
Zoffix .ask lizmat would you check this commit github.com/rakudo/rakudo/commit/5e6b38789a ? It fixes the bug, but I fixed it more by attrition that knowing what I'm doing. 13:50
yoleaux Zoffix: I'll pass your message to lizmat.
Zoffix gah 14:06
Just had a convo in #zofbot by mistake instead of here with no one but a dozen of bots to listen to me -_-
m: sub (*@) {}(gather { say "hi"; take 42 })
camelia ( no output )
Zoffix ^ I said this starts saying "hi" with my commit. But probably it should anyway because this does:
m: @ = gather { say "hi"; take 42 } 14:07
camelia hi
Zoffix &
MasterDuke_ i did a profile-compile of perl6 -e '' and looked at the top allocators of BOOTStrs 14:19
i then went through and made a bunch of variables 'str' that weren't before in those routines
the only thing that seemed to make a difference was making the `$key` parameter of `force_value` in World.nqp a str
it reduced the total number of BOOTStr allocations from 557 to 521 14:20
but none of my changes ever changed the BOOTStr count in a heap profile of perl6 -e '' 14:21
thought the VMString size did go from 2,092,600 to 2,092,830 14:22
why didn't changes to any of the other top routines make a difference? 14:23
jnthn Heap profile as in --profile=heap? 14:26
That is always taken after a GC
So stuff that's allocated but thrown away shortly afterwards won't show up there
The heap profiler isn't an allocation profiler 14:27
It provides counts of what's being held in memory
And kept alive by something at the time of the snapshot
MasterDuke_ ah, i guess that would explain why i don't see so many differences in it's results 14:29
but why not in the regular profiles? 14:30
jnthn That I'm less sure about.
Though 14:31
If you write
MasterDuke_ i.e., some of the top BOOTStr allocating routines had a couple `my $var := "string"` which i changed to `my str $var := "string"`
jnthn my str $x := ...
And then foo($x)
And foo is declared
sub foo($thing) { }
Then it'll be boxed
And if it's passed somewhere twice it'll be boxed twice
So it's easy to come out worse
MasterDuke_ hm, guess i need to follow those vars and see what's done with them 14:32
this i odd. i just changed $scope and $decl to `str`s in compile_var ( github.com/perl6/nqp/blob/master/s....nqp#L1512 ), and they aren't passed into another other routine, but profile afterwards shows 11 more BOOTStrs allocated 15:08
Zoffix buggable: eco installer 16:22
buggable Zoffix, Found 3 results: App::redpanda, Sparrowdo::Cpm, App::InstallerMaker::WiX. See modules.perl6.org/#q=installer
Zoffix buggable: eco installer::Wix
buggable Zoffix, Nothing found
Zoffix buggable: eco maker::Wix
buggable Zoffix, App::InstallerMaker::WiX 'Tool to make basic WiX installers for Perl 6 apps, bundling MoarVM/Rakudo.': github.com/jnthn/p6-app-installermaker-wix
Zoffix buggable: eco wix
buggable Zoffix, App::InstallerMaker::WiX 'Tool to make basic WiX installers for Perl 6 apps, bundling MoarVM/Rakudo.': github.com/jnthn/p6-app-installermaker-wix
Zoffix qast: ā–øOp: :op<say>, ā–øSVal: :value<Hi> 16:27
SourceBaby Zoffix, OUTPUT: Ā«Hiā¤Ā»
Zoffix hehe. Now I just need to figure out how to type ā–ø on this box too :} 16:28
timotimo give it a texas variant :)
Zoffix qast: ā–øOp: :op<say>, ā–øSVal: :valueĀ«HiĀ» 16:29
SourceBaby Zoffix, OUTPUT: Ā«Hiā¤Ā»
Zoffix was trying to see if Ā» was a thing in nqp...
[Coke] I see github.com/fayland/perl6-Business-CreditCard has a logo in the modules page; but the logo isn't mentioned in the META file. is it just assumed based on filename? Can we change that so you can specify a relative path or URL? 16:56
perlpilot looks like it just looks in the repo for logotype/logo_32x32.png (with possibly other variations) 16:58
Zoffix [Coke]: logos aren't specified by META; if you got "logotype/logo_32x32.png" file, it's used as a logo 16:59
That's the only variation
perlpilot ah
Zoffix has logos in most of his modules 17:00
buggable: author zoffix
buggable Zoffix, Did not find any dists for zoffix
Zoffix buggable: author zoffixznet
[Coke] I would prefer that was config'able (esp. since I've never had a logotype directory in any project ever.)
buggable Zoffix, Found 38 dists for zoffixznet. See temp.perl6.party/buggable/13461453...03614.html
timotimo it'd be cool if you could also have an svg along the png
(have both so that not everything that wants to display module lists has to be able to render svg)
Zoffix would rather toss it entirely :} 17:01
perlpilot logos would be a nice addition to the META spec as optional ancillary info 17:02
Zoffix whyyy 17:03
timotimo yeah, have a data: url in a field inside the json :P
perlpilot Zoffix: why not? 17:04
Zoffix Just scrolling through the modules.perl6.org, I'd say we're violating a dozen or so copyright laws, with all the proprietary logos
timotimo perlpilot: maybe because we generate one big .json file from all meta jsons :)
Zoffix perlpilot: it's very simple: complex stuff sucks
perlpilot can't argue with that. :) 17:05
Zoffix Wonder why Trait::IO renders in a huge row :/ 17:06
oh, wait, it's the... *drum roll*, the apparently bustified logo_32x32.png
I think 17:07
Yeah, it's 400px x 400px
The n00b that coded that website really messed up
timotimo :D :D :D 17:08
perlpilot yikes.
timotimo that is utterly fantastic
a smart way to get attention for your module
just have it take up one screen-page
Zoffix sets a picture of a huge cock as logotype... 17:09
This one should do: ct.weirdnutdaily.com/ol/wn/sw/i39/2...86d139.jpg
perlpilot Zoffix: speaking of Trait::IO ... what's with the 5 levels of nqp::ctxcaller? 17:10
Zoffix Why are people asking me about it?
You're the second person to ask me that.
Because that many levels is needed.
timotimo that's a huge cock this guy has between his legs 17:11
Zoffix :") 17:12
perlpilot Zoffix: I figured it was needed. Help me understand why :)
Zoffix perlpilot: I'm guessing many callers between the block being run and users code. I took it from another core trait and added a level or two 17:13
*that many
It needs to reach the variable in user's code so it goes up the call stack looking for it 17:23
*the block the variable is in
So it could stick a phaser into it
Prolly should have more checks than just a name. All the intermediate layers probably have variables in 'em 17:24
Oh wait, never mind.
It goes RIGHT to the scope with the variable and finds it by name and calls .close on it 17:25
to close the handle
m: my $x = 42; my $y = 42; die unless $x == $y == 42 17:44
camelia ( no output )
Zoffix TIL that's a syntax error in Perl 5 (can't chain ==)...
Or, I guess, I've been using Perl 6 long enough to be spoiled enough to be surprised when such chaining doesn't work :)
timotimo :) 17:45
yeah, chaining operators is pretty cool
Zoffix [Coke]: um, your comment only showed up after I merged. What's wrong with SO's license? Isn't it just MIT? So we stuff it to LICENSE section and move on, no? 18:38
yoleaux 18:35Z <[Coke]> Zoffix: please check my comment on doc pr # 1296
[Coke] Zoffix: you seem to respond in discussions I'm not talking to you in. 18:39
But yes, commit e8ae3b is a fine way to deal with the issue, thanks.
Zoffix OK 18:40
[Coke]: well, I'm not in #perl6. You are in #perl6-dev :)
.ask samcv is bustitude with some ops on docs site known? Like docs.perl6.org/routine/..%5E is a 404 (that's ..^ op) 18:47
yoleaux Zoffix: I'll pass your message to samcv. 18:48
MasterDuke_ how very terrible is gist.github.com/MasterDuke17/c0718...74f03fff25 for rt.perl.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=112396 ? 19:14
Zoffix has no idea 19:15
MasterDuke_ m: 3 ==> sin() ==> say() 19:29
camelia 0.141120008059867
MasterDuke_ m: 3 ==> &sin ==> &say
camelia 5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>
Sorry, do not know how to handle this case of a feed operator yet.
at <tmp>:1
------> 033 ==> &sin ==> &say7ā5<EOL>
MasterDuke_ ^^^ gives the same result as the first with the patch i gisted above 19:30
but the conditional i added, `elsif $_.isa(QAST::Op) && $_.op eq 'ifnull' && $_[0].isa(QAST::Var) && nqp::substr($_[0].name, 0, 1) eq '&' {`, doesn't seem all that elegant 19:31
timotimo i never .isa 19:32
and nqp::eqat is way better than substr + eq
Zoffix
.oO( is it supposed to be just the same as a routine call?; feels too magical to automatically convert it into a call )
m: my &x = 42 but Callable; &x() 19:33
camelia No such method 'CALL-ME' for invocant of type 'Int+{Callable}'
in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1
MasterDuke_ moritz, masak, jnthn: pinging you guys since your conversation is what prompted the ticket 19:39
moritz MasterDuke_: I don't know if we paint ourselves into a proverbial corner if we special-case that. Maybe a better error message would be the safer solution 19:49
but I don't feel very strongly either way
[Coke] moritz: www.youtube.com/watch?v=ussCHoQttyQ 20:11
Zoffix: is that worse than: 20:12
m: my $x = 42; &$x()
camelia No such method 'CALL-ME' for invocant of type 'Int'
in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1
Zoffix doesn't understand the question 20:13
MasterDuke_ i could alway stick the conditional i added into the error branch and add something like `. Did you mean 'sub()'?` if true 20:14
[Coke] just taking your previous m: and showing what happens if you use $x instead of &x - if you're suggesting that is LTA somehow, this is a similar thing to consider. 20:15
TimToady m: my $x = 42; $x(); # don't need the & at all 20:24
camelia No such method 'CALL-ME' for invocant of type 'Int'
in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1
MasterDuke_ TimToady: do you have an opinion on the feed question? 20:25
jnthn Unicode hack of the: www.reddit.com/r/rust/comments/5pe...t/dcsgk7n/ 20:28
*of the day
MasterDuke_: The comment in RT #112396 about STD having accepted it doesn't really seem to be relevant, in so far as it can be valid syntax but not valid semantics. :) 20:30
synopsebot6 Link: rt.perl.org/rt3/Public/Bug/Display...?id=112396
jnthn Which is in fact what the push error is about
The report is kinda amusing 20:31
Uses feed operator
Gets error that makes sense if you know they push on to variables
Says it's LTA
Notes doesn't know anything about feed operators :P
But yeah, I think we could probably say that anything with an & sigil is very unlikely to be a push target 20:32
I don't think magically turning a noun into a verb is the right way to go, though
TimToady agrees
jnthn I could live with spotting the & sigil and giving an error suggesting probable confusion 20:33
MasterDuke_ k 20:34
jnthn notes that a $ will auto-viv to an array on push, an @ will be an array and so work, and a % also has a push method
I'd never really thought about sticking a hash at the end of a feed operator but thanks to Hash.push it probably does something useful and sensible :-)
Zoffix [Coke]: no, my suggestion was that not everything & is necessarily something you can call to automagically turn it into a call
m: my $mmutableTreeListįøElementTį³ = 42; dd $mmutableTreeListįøElementTį³ 20:36
camelia Int $mmutableTreeListįøElementTį³ = 42
Zoffix haha :) nice one
MasterDuke_ jnthn: would you say that in fact verbing weirds nouns? 20:37
jnthn Zoffix: Thought you might enjoy that :)
MasterDuke_: What? :-)
MasterDuke_ jnthn: an attempt at making a joke about your statement turning a noun into a verb isn't right. "verbing weirds nouns" is a quote from Calvin & Hobbes 20:45
jnthn MasterDuke_: Ah, I didn't know the reference. :-) But I'm not into prescriptivisting, so I don't think it weirds them at all. :-) 20:48
TimToady note that even English has to use "ing" and "s" to do that, which is equivalent to requiring () in Perl 6 20:50
MasterDuke_ how does this look: `perl6 -e '3 ==> &sin ==> &say'` locally prints `Sorry, do not know how to handle this case of a feed operator yet. Did you mean '&sin()'?` 20:56
jnthn It's a bit of a lie 'cus we do we know exactly what case it is. :) 20:57
MasterDuke_ just replace the message? 20:58
jnthn Yeah
"A feed may not sink values into a code object. Did you mean to a call like 'sin()' instead?" 20:59
oops
"A feed may not sink values into a code object. Did you mean a call like 'sin()' instead?"
MasterDuke_ while i'm at it, any reason not to stick some info about the object in the message in the usual case? like the QAST type? 21:04
oh, and the error says the first thing in the feed, but the caret always points to the EOL, any way to fix that? 21:05
jnthn I don't think QAST nodes mean anything to the typical user
Maybe we'd be better enumerating what is allowed since there aren't many options :)
The caret can usually be got righter by calling .panic/.sorry or whatever on a more appropriate match object 21:06
Rather than just $/
MasterDuke_ "Sorry, do not know how to handle this case of a feed operator yet. Only routine calls and variables with a '.push' are allowed." ? 21:08
jnthn Seems like an improvement 21:09
MasterDuke_ variables that can '.push'? 21:11
jnthn Guess that is shorter and says just as push
*just as much
MasterDuke_ that was a little unclear. this is what i currently have added: "Only routine calls and variables that can '.push' are allowed." 21:13
but it could be "Sorry, do not know how to handle this case of a feed operator yet, only routine calls and variables that can '.push'" 21:14
jnthn I think the second , would want to be a ; if we do that 21:15
Oh, wait :)
Maybe the "yet" should go away too 21:16
In that there's more wrong things you can write than NYI things
Could just say something like "Only routine calls or variables that can '.push' may appear either side of feed operators."
MasterDuke_ cool, will put that 21:19
the .panic is currently called on the same $/ that's passed into make_feed() 21:20
but inside it loops over "stages" of $/<infix><sym> 21:22
and working on the .ast 21:23
any way to get back at the appropriate part of the $/ other than keeping a parallel array around? 21:25
jnthn the thing it gets the .ast from for the stage will be a match object
MasterDuke_ yeah, but it sticks the .ast in @stages and then loops over that to do the work 21:26
jnthn Oh
Can we maybe just stick the original thing in @stages and then call .ast on it in the loop?
s/original thing/match/ 21:27
MasterDuke_ yeah, probably, i'll give it a shot
samcv .tell Zoffix dunno about the docs. when i checked before it was all fine. i'm curious what the files on the server are called? 22:28
yoleaux samcv: I'll pass your message to Zoffix.
samcv .tell Zoffix page works docs.perl6.org/routine/...html it just needs .html to be at the end
yoleaux samcv: I'll pass your message to Zoffix.
samcv hmm maybe the rewriting isn' working? though for now we can maybe make the pages end in .html for every page that has a dot in the name? hm 22:30
you aren't supposed to end a domain name with a period though
timotimo domain names ought to be like .org.perl6.www 22:33
Zoffix . 22:34
yoleaux 22:28Z <samcv> Zoffix: dunno about the docs. when i checked before it was all fine. i'm curious what the files on the server are called?
22:28Z <samcv> Zoffix: page works docs.perl6.org/routine/...html it just needs .html to be at the end
samcv Zoffix, it's now reported github.com/perl6/doc/issues/1298 22:35
timotimo, that would be nice
Zoffix I think we just need to put the dot back into the $COLON rewriter. I'll take a look later tonight. 22:36
samcv we can just use .html? 22:37
Zoffix We can't willy-nilly mess with URLs because a lot of things link to them. 22:39
s/them/pages on doc site/;
samcv hm 22:40
also Zoffix it's only ones that end in a period
anywhere else is fine 22:41
Zoffix No, the `%`/`%%` ops are also busted 22:42
Rather, their links are
samcv i mean the page is still at that point 22:43
anything else broken Zoffix ?
i think i'm gonna try and fix it right now
Zoffix samcv: don't know of any other ones. The percent ones are github.com/perl6/doc/issues/1295 and the pages work if you do %25 or %25%25, but the link from search just links to bare % 22:46
samcv ok great thanks
Zoffix Oh, the % one is a separate Issue: github.com/perl6/doc/issues/1286
samcv ok working on now 22:48
Geth roast: 4f515b898d | (Zoffix Znet)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | S04-exceptions/fail.t
Toss outdated comment

It's 9 years old... and I guess `use fatal` *is* standard now, as it's in a bunch of places in roast.		 22:50
MasterDuke_ hm, after some interruptions retooled make_feed to .ast the parts in the loop that works on them, but calling $_.panic() (instead of $/.panic) still puts the caret at the EOL 22:57
Zoffix This feels like a WAT: github.com/perl6/doc/issues/1290 23:28
... like a WAT can of worms. 23:29
'cause what I'd want to do is add :nohandler on the nqp::while loop handling... but, hell, are we gonna add them to all the things that accept Callables (e.g. .splice comes to mind) 23:31
hell knows what else
+ phasers 23:34
MasterDuke_ there's at least some thought that phasers should work in grep. rt.perl.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=131060 23:35
samcv ok new atom-language-perl6 release. regex highlighting fixes 23:36
Zoffix samcv++
Made a @LARRY ticket for loop controls/phasers in routines that accept Callables. IMO we should default to these being "undefined behaviour" and just implement handlers for stuff where it makes sense: rt.perl.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=131261 23:48
samcv: spotted another doc Issue about broken URLs, though it seems to be the same `..` stuff: github.com/perl6/doc/issues/1283 23:58
samcv yeah that's the same thing
yeah bduggan posted a link to that on my ticket

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