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Geth nqp: ff24d54775 | (Timo Paulssen)++ | src/vm/moar/HLL/Backend.nqp
profiler: expose "stolen gen2 roots" in sql output
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nqp: f1ab9a56f8 | (Timo Paulssen)++ | tools/templates/MOAR_REVISION
bump moar for reverting a bug, and code for later
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rakudo: b55b85aefa | (Timo Paulssen)++ | tools/templates/NQP_REVISION
bump nqp for a revert inside moarvm
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japhb Cro:HTTP tests fail rather heavily against Rakudo HEAD (2019.07.1-321-gb55b85aef) 02:17
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lizmat timotimo: the revert did not fix the test-suite for my client 07:25
I don't have much time today, will be spending that on the P6W
will look deeper into it tomorrow
samcv AlexDaniel, well. it is whichever that we can get the highest number to agree to. so imo if we have people disagreeing with things being in, it'd be best to not have them in. find something everyone can support, which will give us a really good foundation and action plan 07:26
i've approved the PR now :) 07:33
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timotimo wasn't there some flag to disable perl6-m runner generation? to get the script version again? 12:24
vrurg: is there a way to get the runner scripts generated again? 12:35
aaw, even nqp has runner executables 12:36
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timotimo OK, just grepping "argv" from the perl6-m.c file was enough to get me started 12:42
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|Tux| Rakudo version 2019.07.1-260-g9dd67cb37 - MoarVM version 2019.07.1-221-ga0ff25c74
csv-ip5xs0.676 - 0.685
csv-ip5xs-205.086 - 5.163
csv-parser22.145 - 22.404
csv-test-xs-200.418 - 0.429
test7.128 - 7.265
test-t1.759 - 1.766
test-t --race0.797 - 0.901
test-t-2029.372 - 29.793
test-t-20 --race9.056 - 9.068
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timotimo nope, perl6-m.c is perhaps outdated? because the paths aren't good 13:00
lizmat m: (while True { say "Infinite loop?" }; say "Nope. Doesnt do the while!") # what wizardry is this? 13:19
evalable6 Nope. Doesnt do the while!
lizmat m: dd (while True { print "x" }; say "Nope. Doesnt do the while!") 13:20
evalable6 Nope. Doesnt do the while!
((Bool::True, Bool::True, Bool::True, Bool::True, Bool::True, B…
lizmat, Full output: gist.github.com/cf98e6bf3b696caba7...7252bb53df
Ven_de_Thiel m: (sink do while True { say "Infinite loop?" }; say "Nope. Doesnt do the while!") # what wizardry is this? 13:30
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Ven_de_Thiel sorry :-( 13:36
m: sub f { while True { 1 } }; say f()[^10]; # I think it's related to this that got changed at some point 13:37
well, I *did* kill elavable6, so...
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moritz m: say 'LOL ITS ME!!!' 13:41
Ven_de_Thiel to the rescue...
moritz (first execution is always slow AF, likely due to rate limiting etc.)
Ven_de_Thiel m: sub f { while True { 1 } }; say f()[^10]; # I think it's related to this that got changed at some point
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moritz huh, it seems that camelia is a bit rusty :( 13:43
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Ven_de_Thiel huh. 13:46
I think I'll stop writing Perl 6 for now...
lizmat Ven_de_Thiel: I think that was moritz unrusting Camelia
Ven_de_Thiel oh, so maybe it's not a fully-fledged curse I'm riding...yet :) 13:47
m: sub f { while True { 1 } }; say f()[^10]; # third time's a curse?
evalable6 (signal SIGHUP) WARNINGS for /tmp/BGDgRASCi5:
«timed out after 10 seconds»
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Ven_de_Thiel Surprising... 13:47
m: sub f { do while True { 1 } }; say f()[^10]; # third time's a curse? 13:48
camelia (timeout)WARNINGS for <tmp>:
tellable6 2019-09-05T22:44:21Z #perl6 <irced> camelia: say "where's beatrice?"
2019-09-11T22:22:40Z #perl6 <irced> camelia: say "I am your slave"
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camelia (1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1) 13:48
Ven_de_Thiel ????? 13:49
I'm done with computers. Does anyone have a few goats for me?
m: say "hello evalable6"; 13:53
camelia hello evalable6
Ven_de_Thiel oh, maybe it's only a fallback
moritz aye, evalable6 only does its work when camelia is unavailable 13:59
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sortiz DBIish test t/43-sqlite-threads.t segfault on Rakudo HEAD, bisected to commit daaf027 14:30
tellable6 2019-09-09T19:09:24Z #perl6 <patrickb> sortiz Did you notice github.com/salortiz/DBDish-ODBC/pull/5
sortiz .tell patrickb Yep, already merged (DBDish::ODBC PR 5) 14:33
tellable6 sortiz, I'll pass your message to patrickb
lizmat is getting some git hate again 14:41
what does this even mean?
gist.github.com/lizmat/098de1bf9d9...b69bec06a2
since I'm the only person working on that branch, how can they have diverged? 14:42
robertle are the "other" changes till remote? and rebase tries to rebase onto the local version of master? 14:43
timotimo lizmat: didn't you rebase your branch recently?
lizmat I nuked the branch and started a new one
timotimo ah
well
everything pre-nuke is now in origin/newer-sprintf and "you don't have them" 14:44
lizmat oddly enough, this time a "git pull" did no harm
timotimo and everything post-nuke is in your branch and "origin does not have them"
lizmat $ git pull
Fetching submodule 3rdparty/nqp-configure
Merge made by the 'recursive' strategy.
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timotimo if i want to see how commits relate to one another, i use "git lg" which is an alias to 14:44
git log --graph --pretty=format:'%Cred%h%Creset -%C(yellow)%d%Creset %s %Cgreen(%cr) %Cblue<%an>%Creset' --abbrev-commit --date=relative
lizmat origin does have all of the changes (if by origin you mean Github)
timotimo with --all it gives you other branches in addition to the one you have checked out 14:45
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timotimo oh, when you did "git rebase master", that just means your newer-sprintf branch was already based on the latest master 14:45
nothing related to origin/newer-sprintf
lizmat then what does "Your branch and 'origin/newer-sprintf' have diverged," mean ? 14:46
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lizmat in any case, it appears to be ok again now 14:49
timotimo well, you nuked the branch locally, but apparently the branch has already gone to github before the nuke under the same name? 14:50
AFKBBL
lizmat that's why I change the name of the branch to "newer-sprintf" 14:55
*changed
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Geth roast/new-sprintf: 8b47fb1ac6 | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ | S32-str/sprintf-o.t
Add additional "*" and "*.*" tests to %o
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lizmat notable6: weekly
notable6 lizmat, 4 notes: gist.github.com/eecc93a73adb55512c...55895b06c7
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lizmat and yet another Perl 6 Weekly hits the Net: p6weekly.wordpress.com/2019/09/16/...essinging/ 15:41
afk& 15:42
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lizmat notable6: weekly reset 15:49
notable6 lizmat, Moved existing notes to “weekly_2019-09-16T15:49:01Z”
lizmat really afk&
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Geth rakudo: Kaiepi++ created pull request #3189:
Build: use ?= to conditionally assign to variables, not ifndef		 16:06
AlexDaniel lizmat: the message from git makes sense to me. So there are some commits on origin (on the same branch) and some different commits locally 16:33
and it has nothing to do with `master` 16:34
masak a branch has diverged with its remote branch either when (a) another team member pushed something first, or (b) you've rebased locally and haven't force-pushed yet 16:50
Git doesn't really distinguish between those two situations, which is a bit of a pity
(but also very Git)
timotimo so it's a gity? 16:51
masak pity much, yes
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vrurg AlexDaniel: starting a new ticket. 17:57
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Geth ¦ problem-solving: vrurg assigned to AlexDaniel Issue Decision to be taken on Raku filename extensions. github.com/perl6/problem-solving/issues/106 18:02
AlexDaniel vrurg: yeah, that's refreshing 18:15
the previous thread was indeed starting to grow a few cancers
vrurg AlexDaniel: I'm confused. Am I able to vote on the renaming PR? 18:22
AlexDaniel vrurg: officially not, given that this PR didn't go through yet github.com/perl6/problem-solving/pull/87 18:24
vrurg: but you can comment, and you can influence other devs who can :) 18:25
vrurg AlexDaniel: I meant 'technically'. Ok, github ACLs are somewhat limited in functionality, makes sense. :)
AlexDaniel vrurg: but can you comment there?
vrurg Yes, no problem. Just have left a comment about new extension ticket. 18:26
AlexDaniel oh, you probably see a button to leave a review and that's why you ask, OK, I see now :)
vrurg rrright! ;)
AlexDaniel I can probably fix that, but then you wouldn't be able to leave a comment :D 18:27
so we'll leave it like this for now :)
vrurg np. I wouldn't abuse the technical possibility anyway. 18:32
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releasable6 Next release in ≈4 days and ≈23 hours. R6 is down. At least 9 blockers. Please log your changes in the ChangeLog: github.com/rakudo/rakudo/wiki/ChangeLog-Draft 19:00
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AlexDaniel no really, what is this even 19:52
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AlexDaniel vrurg: your options are missing script extensions 22:58
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vrurg AlexDaniel: they're in the title. Option 1. .raku 22:59
AlexDaniel vrurg: write them on the next line too for stupid people like me
I'm worried that people will still use short extensions even if we don't support them officially… 23:00
vrurg done 23:01
AlexDaniel “Discordable.rakumod”
“Bisectable.raku” 23:02
vrurg I'm tempted for option 3, but not really sure.
AlexDaniel “notable.rakutest”
honestly, these look like shit :D
tobs Set.rakumod, Rat.rakumod... 23:03
vrurg The thing which pulls me toward long extensions is support for test files by editors/IDEs.
AlexDaniel :D I don't know, something just feels wrong :D
tobs AlexDaniel expressing it bluntly, yeah
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AlexDaniel something about long extensions… it's like visually overpowering, or something? 23:06
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AlexDaniel vrurg: editors should already read the shebang, if they assume perl5 for .t that's just plainly wrong 23:07
vrurg AlexDaniel: tell this to perl6 package in Atom conflicting with perl5 because both claim for .t 23:10
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vrurg youtu.be/pQICGZd9-SA?t=92 – "raku, raku, raku, bom!" ;) 23:11
Bisectable.raku is totally ok with me. After all, everybody is used to Class.java. 23:13
We're not used to it, new things often come with confusion.
Discordable.rakumod? Perhaps a bit overwhelming. Yet, again, rather a matter of getting used to it. 23:15
leont Yeah, editors were the reason for .t6 AFAIK 23:18
vrurg A good replacement for .t would change my mind in favor of short extensions. 23:20
Anybody else observing broken t/spec/S32-list/combinations.t after the last NQP bumps? 23:22
Geth rakudo: vrurg self-assigned Build fails when BSD make is used github.com/rakudo/rakudo/issues/3190
971b5ecc0c | (Vadim Belman)++ | 4 files

Cleanup for systems where echo doesn't expand escapes.		 23:26
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AlexDaniel vrurg: Yeah… .rktest? still kinda wrong 23:44
vrurg .trk? Oh, wait: Tele-Radio K(c)ompany... 23:46
.rktst is even worse 23:48
AlexDaniel .rkt is nice, very nice… :P :P :P 23:49
vrurg AlexDaniel: some people say Racket is a nice project too. Let's see which nacity is nacier? 23:54
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AlexDaniel vrurg: the one that is least nice will rename itself to remove the ambiguity :D 23:57

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