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cmarcelo | audreyt: i'm not sure if you're subscribed in haskell.org, if not take a look www.haskell.org//pipermail/haskell/...html#18030 | 04:07 | |
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audreyt | cmarcelo: I was not; I iwll now | 06:22 | |
svnbot6 | r10456 | cmarcelo++ | - JudySL low-level bindings done | 06:26 | |
r10456 | cmarcelo++ | - TODO updates based on emails from Haskell mailing list | |||
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cmarcelo | audreyt: people freaked out about opensource licenses =P | 06:27 | |
Alias_ | ? | 06:29 | |
cmarcelo | i was introducing HsJudy (judy bindings for haskell) to haskell people and suddenly they were talking about whether (L)GPL was really open source etc.. | 06:30 | |
Alias_ | ah | 06:31 | |
:) | |||
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audreyt | cmarcelo: ignore them :) | 06:33 | |
<- already spent one entire week of her life working out all LGPL ramifications with allison | |||
cmarcelo: it boils down to that as long as we still -ljudy, and release HsJudy with BSD license, there's nothing people should worry about. | 06:34 | ||
they can use HsJudy asif it's BSD | |||
and even if statically linked, their code still does not need to be redistributed in LGPL at all, and cn use whatever license as they see fit | 06:35 | ||
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cmarcelo | audreyt: great! and did you see Bulat's points on the project? i "summarized" his(?) points in HsJudy/TODO ... | 06:36 | |
GeJ | hello all | ||
audreyt | yup, I saw those | 06:39 | |
good points | |||
(bbiab) | |||
cmarcelo | audreyt: the most critical thing (i think) is this StablePtr overhead... | 06:41 | |
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dduncan | with all the latest developments, what is the current estimate for when 6.2.12 will be released? | 07:36 | |
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audreyt | dduncan: before I board the plane to norway | 07:45 | |
which is June 13th | |||
dduncan | okay audreyt, thanks for the info | 07:51 | |
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ludan | HELO | 11:30 | |
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Coke__ | was just talking to the author of Readonly - is something like this going to be in core p6 ? | 15:09 | |
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Alias_ | what a stupid name | 15:17 | |
he should have lowercased it :( | |||
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Juerd | Alias_: Wrap it :) | 15:19 | |
obra | Alias_: how's Task::Warn? | ||
Alias_ | wha? | ||
Coke__ | lowercase is reserved for pragmas. That's not a pragma. | ||
Alias_ | obra: What would that do? | ||
Juerd | Alias_: Is this Task:: related to xmath's Task module? | ||
Coke__: It's not reserved. | |||
Coke__ | hang on. | ||
Juerd | Coke__: It's also used for cute syntax with "use". | 15:20 | |
use again 'Foo::Bar'; | |||
obra | er | ||
sorry | |||
Task::Weaken | |||
brain dropping syllables | |||
Alias_ | Well it's written... | ||
:) | |||
No feedback from downstream yet, but only PPI is using it so far | 15:21 | ||
Coke__ | -> (11:20) Private message from Sue D. Nymme [bananas], to Coke: | ||
- ... honestly, because I thought it was pretentious of me to think that it | |||
- would ever rise to the level of a pragma. | |||
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obra | I was contemplating using it. | 15:22 | |
The Task:: namespace scares me a little bit, thogh | |||
Alias_ | That's only because it's new | ||
But you may well want to wait a little bit and see what happens | |||
This stuff tends to take months to shake out, as the fallout cascades downstream | 15:23 | ||
And Task:: is just a modernised Bundle:: | |||
Coke__ | anyway, back to my original question - is Readonly going to be a core thing in perl6? I fully admit to not having kept up with the apoc/exe/syn. | 15:24 | |
obra | Alias_: sure. that's why I mention it. | 15:25 | |
Alias_ | obra: Well, there'll be Module::Install edge cases | ||
But I'm not sure of any major cases | |||
But I'm not willing to attest to that until PITA is up and running | |||
obra | understood | 15:27 | |
Alias_ | But it doesn't do anything in this first release that you couldn't replace with your own tests for the presence of weaken, for now | 15:28 | |
Not in the first release anyway | |||
obra | Yeah, but it's all about a build-time dependency | ||
Alias_ | ? | 15:29 | |
obra | Sorry. "I need to fail 'perl Makefile.PL' unless weaken is present" | 15:30 | |
Alias_ | obra: Yes, I need to :) | ||
obra | Yeah. You beat me to implementation by about a day | ||
Except, I was going to call it Scalar::Util::Weaken | |||
Alias_ nods | |||
I didn't feel it was worthy of that | |||
obra | *nod* | 15:31 | |
That seemed to be the easiest way to possibly have graham absorb it later | |||
Alias_ | aaahhh | ||
ok | |||
I didn't see the thing in P5P until after though | |||
I had my own issues with Dapper | |||
Which trigger doing it | |||
triggered | |||
obra | *nod* | ||
Alias_ | And RedHat... sigh | ||
obra | I've seen it in other non-linux places too | 15:32 | |
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Alias_ | I've seen them come and go in single releases a few times in other distros | 15:32 | |
It's a fairly safe call that it would be all over the place | |||
obra | I've seen it on a lot of badly maintained local perls | 15:33 | |
(We get a lot of that with RT) | |||
Alias_ nods | |||
On the absorbing thing though, I think I went with the "better to stay out of his way altogether" | |||
... logic | |||
rgs | hmm distros | 15:34 | |
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svnbot6 | r10457 | cmarcelo++ | - Check for malloc error in JudyL and JudySL. | 17:47 | |
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kolibrie buys a www.cafepress/perl6 shirt | 17:57 | ||
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