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Set by diakopter on 25 June 2007.
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Limbic_Region salutations diakopter 00:10
diakopter thanks :) u2 00:12
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diakopter Limbic_Region: in what browser/OS were you seeing the 500s on cgiirc? 00:23
Limbic_Region WinXP home with FireFox 00:24
WinXP profession with IE
still getting them btw 00:25
diakopter can you PM me the url you're trying? I'm not seeing the 500s 00:28
curious - are you using https?
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diakopter6 from cgiirc. hi 00:29
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Limbic_Region sorry
was AFK
feather.perl6.nl/irc/
diakopter ah :)
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diakopter well I guess it would help if we were using the same URLs. :) 00:31
Limbic_Region that IS the url that is advertised
diakopter heh; :)
Limbic_Region if you are using a different URL then the front page should be updated
feather.perl6.nl/ -> see the link for IRC chat
lambdabot Title: Perl6 Community Development Server
diakopter k
I found the url by looking for irc.cgi on the filesystem and cetera 00:32
an url, I mean
Limbic_Region *shrug* - it did stop working all of a sudden on Friday 00:34
diakopter yeah 00:37
my fault I'm sure, since I scrapped the PAM auth
Limbic_Region when I first reported the problem to Juerd some time ago, he told me there were two issues, one with HTTPS and the other with PAM
one was fixed relatively quickly (the HTTPS) 00:38
avar found a use for p5 subs.pm
Limbic_Region the second was fixed in a day
and it worked for a few days
then on Friday, it just stopped working
diakopter yeah, cuz while it appeared to be working it was still throwing lots of errors 00:39
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Limbic_Region well I don't know how many folks here use it other than me so it might not be much of a big deal 00:43
diakopter please try feather.perl6.nl/cgi-bin/cgiirc/irc.cgi 00:49
just to confirm it works there for you as well
Limbic_Region in a sec 00:50
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Limbic_Region daughter turned off the wireless card 00:52
but yes, it works
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dduncan so my smoke all worked with the clean pugs checkout plus clean perl 5.9.5 ... and the change I made re smoker.yml caused no problems that I'm aware of 02:24
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agentzh audreyt++ # did what i wanted to do :) 03:23
lambdabot agentzh: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it.
agentzh avar said "tell @agentzh " yesterday and it certainly didn't work ;) 03:25
@messages
lambdabot avar said 5h 55s ago: You need to check in PCR inc/Test/* stuff into svn, or all the inc/ stuff
agentzh avar: already checked in as pugs' inc/
avar that's moved into pcr's? 03:26
agentzh avar: i'm guessing you only checked out PCR
without checking out the whole pugs tree
avar: it's something like "use Module::Install '../../inc'" in PCR's Makefile.PL 03:27
avar: re compile_p6grammar.pl 03:28
it currently treats regex {...} and rule {...} as token {...} and i'm going to change that.
sigh...slept too late last night...still quite sleepy... 03:30
pugs_svnbot r16893 | Aankhen++ | trunk:
: * [irclog] couple more abbreviations.
diff: dev.pugscode.org/changeset/16893
lambdabot Title: Changeset 16893 - Pugs - Trac
agentzh dduncan: so you have changed .smoker.yml to smoker.yml? okay, i'll update it on feather for auto-smoke... 03:31
dduncan yes
agentzh k 03:32
personally i quite like this change
since "ls" hides .smoker.yml...
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dduncan assuming your Pugs is up to date, all the files save that one wouldn't need changing 03:32
my own smoke worked after the committed changes, and that 1 file rename 03:33
pifuruan hi
agentzh dduncan: my pugs tree on feather is aways up-to-date ;)
dduncan atta
agentzh pifuruan: hi
pifuruan what is pubs? 03:34
pugs 03:35
lidden pugscode.org/
lambdabot Title: Pugs - pugscode
agentzh dduncan: smoker.yml can be confused by smoke.yml, btw
dduncan: we're already using smoke.yml for storing smoke results 03:36
dduncan I considered that ... perhaps it should be renamed to smoker_config.yml then?
agentzh dduncan: maybe smoker.conf.yml?
heh
dduncan I considered that earlier, but for now went for the smaller delta
question is, is smoker_config or config_smoker better?
the former would sort next to config.yml
alternately, can't those files be merged? 03:37
config.yml already has smoke config in it
agentzh reasonable
dduncan smoke_concurrent
agentzh yeah, why not?
dduncan that would probably work best ... but it would be more onerous to get right, so I don't want to be the one to attempt that
agentzh dduncan: commits welcome :)
pifuruan Pugs is an implementation of Perl 6, written in Haskell. It aims to implement the full Perl6 specification, as detailed in the Synopses. For more information, please see the overview and this interview.
agentzh pifuruan: right 03:38
dduncan that is, I can rename the smoke file again, but doing the merge I would have concerns about
agentzh dduncan: understood
pifuruan so where can i get "the full specification
of perl6
agentzh pifuruan: perlcabal.org/syn
lambdabot Title: Official Perl 6 Documentation
pifuruan tks
agentzh pifuruan: you're welcome
pifuruan thank u very much,man, 03:39
agentzh pifuruan: let us know if you do like a commit bit
dduncan: smoker.yml is not that terribly bad. i'll stay with it for now
pugs_svnbot r16894 | Aankhen++ | trunk:
: * [irclog] took a shot at preserving whitespace.
diff: dev.pugscode.org/changeset/16894
lambdabot Title: Changeset 16894 - Pugs - Trac 03:40
dduncan okay
pifuruan i am so sorry, i am chinese ,forgive my poor English,so what is commit bit
agentzh pifuruan: are you? me too :)
pifuruan ōæ½xD0ōæ½xD2ōæ½xBBōæ½xE1
agentzh pifuruan: the commit bit allows you to update the pugs subversion repository 03:41
pifuruan i like it
agentzh ( svn.pugscode.org/pugs )
lambdabot Title: Revision 16894: /
agentzh pifuruan: /msg me your email address, and i'll try to send one to you
pifuruan [email@hidden.address] 03:42
agentzh k, a sec
pifuruan thks
dduncan pifuruan, try setting your irc client to utf8 text encoding if you can, for better compatibility when sending non-ascii characters
for that matter, all Pugs repo files are utf8
the text ones anyway 03:43
pifuruan ok,i will try
agentzh pifuruan: what user name would you like for your commit bit?
pifuruan: hanson? 03:44
pifuruan ok
agentzh k
sending
pifuruan i will check now
agentzh commitbit is not so fast though... 03:45
my page is still loading...sigh...
pifuruan: please let me know if you already get the mail 03:46
pifuruan i am afraid not yet
agentzh commitbit-- 03:48
pifuruan i havn't got ur mail
agentzh could anyone here send one to him?
agentzh gives up. 03:49
TimToady I will try.
agentzh wow
pifuruan I love all guys here
agentzh TimToady++
pifuruan [email@hidden.address] 03:50
TimToady it thinks it has sent you an invitation 03:54
pifuruan ok,i received mail from audrey
agentzh pifuruan: actually you've received a mail from lwall 03:56
or his bot 03:57
;)
TimToady ę¬¢čæŽļ¼
dduncan pifuruan, so it is customary to add your name to the AUTHORS file as your first commit ... and it is a utf8 file
I saw that encoded correctly!
agentzh 2
pifuruan hh
TimToady assuming simplified is correct here, and not ę­”čæŽ 03:58
dduncan well, I just mean it didn't look like garbage 03:59
plus 'incompatible encoding' notice
agentzh TimToady++ # a Chinese guy
TimToady I don't suppose "huan1 ying2" would do you any better...
agentzh PinYin is very hard to read for even native CN speakers. 04:00
like "huan1 ying2"
TimToady but dduncan has a slightly better chance of knowing how to pronounce it.
agentzh TimToady: *nod* 04:01
TimToady though you'd have to know the tones to really do it right
agentzh exactly
TimToady dduncan: tone 1 is high, then drop a bit on tone 2
agentzh lol
TimToady I mean, other way
dduncan I don't actually know much about this
if anything, TimToady should know a lot more about it than dduncan does 04:02
agentzh tone 2 is like "huh?" while tone 1 is like "yayyyyyyyyyy" 04:03
TimToady mostly don't know much yet except some of the characters; mostly coming at it from the direction of japanese kanji
agentzh TimToady: it's already good enough :) 04:04
TimToady 儽čÆ“ć€‚ 04:05
agentzh ......
pifuruan slaps agentzh around a bit with a large trout 04:06
TimToady or maybe äøę•¢å½“ is more appropriate
agentzh heh
it's amazing...
TimToady yep, grep is pretty amazing... :)
pifuruan timTOady, where are u now 04:07
TimToady Mountain View, California.
pifuruan o
clkao TimToady: do you know "ē‰›äŗŗ" ?
TimToady cow person? 04:08
clkao ya
pifuruan ōæ½xB9ōæ½xFEōæ½xB9ōæ½xFE
TimToady not in my dictionary, alas
clkao i shall let the chinese folks explain, the phrase is getting popular in taiwan too
and i should go to bed
agentzh TimToady is a ē‰›äŗŗ
clkao agree 04:09
agentzh clkao: go to bed *now*?
clkao it's 5am here
agentzh clkao: okay, you're not in .tw...
TimToady yow, and thought I was late for supper...
agentzh ē‰›äŗŗ == a smart person with amazing skills 04:10
TimToady so ē‰›é€¼ also works 04:11
(when grep fails, there's google...)
agentzh LOL
TimToady that character doesn't occur much in japanese. "walk" and "fulljar" in my radical naming system. 04:12
actually, Xwalk, since it only has one tick on top
agentzh TimToady: is that system open-sourced?
TimToady vaguely, but I'm still refining it, and need to refactor the whole thing 04:14
agentzh i heard it was originally written in Perl 6 :)
(iirc) 04:15
TimToady I tried translating to p6 once a long time ago, but unicode was really slow back then
been kinda waiting for things to speed up before I try again
agentzh hopefully fglock's kp6 will get that point before you decide to try again ;) 04:16
TimToady also need to get a font that supports all the extra character in plane 1 and annotate them like I did all the CJK area...
all 20900 characters... 04:17
agentzh oh, so coooooool
TimToady that...took a while...
turns out there's about 3000 different radicalish things, if you count anything that's either repeated more than 5 times or is used as a partial character but is a complete character elsewhere 04:18
agentzh that's interesting :) 04:19
agentzh decides to make a CPAN release for PCR. 04:25
avar agentzh: what namespace do you think generated grammar stuff should be in? 04:29
Pugs::Grammar::*?
agentzh no
avar like just some random parser..
agentzh grammar Foo; just generates package Foo 04:30
each package is derived from Pugs::Grammar::Base
avar I mean practically, as a upload-to-cpan thing
agentzh but it's not necessary if the user doesn't want <ident> or some such
avar: upload to cpan for other cpan modules
?
avar: or a component in PCR itself? 04:31
avar I mean uploading modules generated with PCR
agentzh avar: i think it's arbitrary
avar: in fact i'm going to regenerate my Makefile::Document::Gmake with compiler_p6grammar.pl 04:32
no namespace standard is needed here, i think.
Pugs::Grammar::* are for PCR only
lunch & 04:33
avar aw forget it
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pugs_svnbot r16895 | Darren_Duncan++ | trunk: 04:58
: ext/Muldis-DB/ : fleshed out Grammar.pod, updated Core.pod, other minor edits
diff: dev.pugscode.org/changeset/16895
lambdabot Title: Changeset 16895 - Pugs - Trac
pugs_svnbot r16896 | Darren_Duncan++ | trunk: 05:04
: ext/Muldis-DB/ : minor bug fix in Grammar.pod
diff: dev.pugscode.org/changeset/16896
lambdabot Title: Changeset 16896 - Pugs - Trac
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diotalevi so this is neat. If you teach File::Next that things readable by Archive::Extract are directories, you can use ack on CPAN. 05:13
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dduncan izzatso? 05:18
the joys of abstraction 05:20
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agentzh avar, fglock: any clue? 05:53
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agentzh sigh. it takes forever to commit... 05:56
& 05:57
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TimToady agentzh: why do you have curlies around the "our"? 06:09
agentzh TimToady: because...because...it's a syntax 06:10
i just want to make the grammar parser simpler to implement
those blocks are considered "global actions" 06:11
or "global code blocks that are directly passed to the generated file"
TimToady but $Count won't be visible as a lexical name 06:12
if it's inside {...}
if it works at all, it's because it's a package var and strict is off
agentzh TimToady: the curlies are removed by the emitter :)
TimToady: i know that is a big confusing...
*bit 06:13
TimToady well, it's just not Perl 6, is all...
agentzh TimToady: it's a mix of Perl 6 and Perl 5
just an odd grammar syntax designed specific for PCR
*specifically 06:14
;)
TimToady yeah, but you called a "p6 grammar" when you nopasted it, which led me to believe in was Perl 6... :/
*it
agentzh sorry for the confusion
i should have called it "pcr grammar" or something like that :) 06:15
hmm...can't commit any more today...it seems... 06:16
TimToady maybe you could make it a P5( our ... ) macro to avoid confusing other people later...
agentzh TimToady: great idea!
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agentzh_ or simply borrow yacc's syntax: "%{ ... %}" 06:21
TimToady that would work, especially since p6 doesn't use %{ 06:23
agentzh_ :) 06:24
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pugs_svnbot r16897 | agentz++ | trunk: 06:25
: [PCR]
: * added token "digit" to P::G::Rule2.pm and updated Rule.pmc accordingly
: (one more test is passing now :))
: * Pugs::Emitter::Grammar::Perl5 - appended "1;" to each generated
: package
diff: dev.pugscode.org/changeset/16897
agentzh_ i'd expect compile_p6grammar.pl be much faster than v6.pm for compiling p6 grammars (or PCR grammars)
since it doesn't bother parsing perl 6 in actions (or closures)
after chaning my IPs 3 or 4 times, svn ci finally works :) 06:26
*changing
yay 06:27
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agentzh_ the sadest thing for me is that i'm prevented from committing :) 06:28
Jameswf I was committed once 06:29
agentzh_ Jameswf: commits welcome!!!
*saddest
Jameswf sometimea I code quick and dirty, I will do something and my IT guy is like WTF. cleans it up and breaks it. I say it wa oogily but it worked 06:31
i think my s is messed up 06:32
pugs_svnbot r16898 | agentz++ | trunk:
: PCR - added examples/digits.grammar which doesn't work yet; it's looping...sigh
diff: dev.pugscode.org/changeset/16898
lambdabot Title: Changeset 16898 - Pugs - Trac
agentzh_ will change the syntax to %{ ... %} ...
Jameswf: i like to code quickly too (but not the dirty part...) 06:33
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agentzh changing {...} to %{...%} breaks the parser...will do later... 06:56
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agentzh heh, it finally works: token verbatim { '%{' ( [ <!before '%}'> . ]* ) '%}' } 07:02
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agentzh is anyone working on the parsec emitter for pcr? 07:04
if not, i'll skip t/11-parsec.t's tests by default 07:05
it's annoying to see the errors everytime running 'make test'
pugs_svnbot r16899 | Aankhen++ | trunk: 07:21
: * [irclog] I am a lean, mean, abbreviation expanding machine. Or something.
diff: dev.pugscode.org/changeset/16899
lambdabot Title: Changeset 16899 - Pugs - Trac
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pugs_svnbot r16900 | agentz++ | trunk: 07:43
: [PCR]
: * skipped the failing tests in t/11-parsec.t, t/14-mini_perl6.t,
: and t/12-plain_regex.t
: * added examples/digits.grammar which is looping...sigh...
: * Rule2.pm: changed the global code blocks to %{ ... %} per TimToady++
diff: dev.pugscode.org/changeset/16900
r16901 | agentz++ | trunk: 07:46
: PCR - added t/16-examples.t to test examples/*.grammar
diff: dev.pugscode.org/changeset/16901
lambdabot Title: Changeset 16901 - Pugs - Trac
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Jameswf I wande if pizza_party can be addapted to papajohns 08:31
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pugs_svnbot r16902 | agentz++ | trunk: 09:43
: [PCR]
: - t/16-examples.t: generated .pm files within tmp/.
: - added $VERSION to front-end modules like Pugs::Compiler::Regex,
: and Pugs::Compiler::Grammar and raised it to 0.24.
: - renamed ChangeLog to Changes.
: - now developers should invoke 'Makefile.PL' as follows:
: perl Makefile.PL releng
: in releng mode, pugs' inc/ will not be reused.
: - updated Changes to reflect recent changes.
: - Makeile.PL - removed tmp/ and *.pm in 'make clean'.
: - updated README with my 'releng' script.
diff: dev.pugscode.org/changeset/16902
lambdabot Title: Changeset 16902 - Pugs - Trac 09:44
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agentzh Pugs::Compiler::Rule 0.24 has been uploaded to CPAN :) 09:46
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agentzh @tell fglock the old failing tests in t/11-parsec.t, t/12-plain_regex.t, and t/14-mini_perl6.t are skipped and 0.24 are released to CPAN :) 09:54
lambdabot Consider it noted.
meppl good morning 09:55
agentzh good afternoon!
meppl good afternoon agentzh 09:56
agentzh :)
unobe good night :-) 09:57
agentzh supper & 09:59
pugs_svnbot r16903 | agentz++ | trunk:
: PCR - CPAN release 0.24
diff: dev.pugscode.org/changeset/16903
lambdabot Title: Changeset 16903 - Pugs - Trac
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pugs_svnbot r16904 | agentz++ | trunk: 11:06
: PCR - added examples/langs.grammar (this file contains two grammars and the latter calls the subrules of the former and it works\!)
diff: dev.pugscode.org/changeset/16904
lambdabot Title: Changeset 16904 - Pugs - Trac
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pugs_svnbot r16905 | agentz++ | trunk: 11:18
: PCR - prepends 'use strict; use warnings' to the .pm file generated
diff: dev.pugscode.org/changeset/16905
lambdabot Title: Changeset 16905 - Pugs - Trac
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pugs_svnbot r16906 | agentz++ | trunk: 11:33
: PCR - updates version number to 0.25
diff: dev.pugscode.org/changeset/16906
lambdabot Title: Changeset 16906 - Pugs - Trac
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pugs_svnbot r16907 | masak++ | trunk: 11:54
: [t/syntax/numbers/misc.t]
: * corrected copy/paste bug
: [t/builtins/arrays/slice.t]
: * unbroke mid-testfile crash with a try block
diff: dev.pugscode.org/changeset/16907
lambdabot Title: Changeset 16907 - Pugs - Trac
masak I must say I was positively surprised by the last line in t/syntax/numbers/hexadecimal.t 11:59
see if somebody sees what I mean
it says "is :16<DEAD_BEEF>, 0xDEADBEEF"
I thought the old 0x syntax was dead, bereft of all life, pushing up the daisies 12:00
if so, what's it doing in a test file?
if not, why isn't it exercised more in the test file? :) 12:01
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agentzh yay! "rule foo { ... }" works now 12:08
masak agentzh++ 12:09
agentzh :)
masak how far are we really from 6.28.0? 12:10
masak longs for christmas :)
Alias_ Thursday 12:12
Of course, I'm not saying WHICH Thursday
Really, I have no idea at all
masak seems 6.28's been around the corner for ages
agentzh for 6.28.x, we need audreyt ;) 12:15
masak yes 12:16
Alias_ And where's she lately?
pugs_svnbot r16908 | agentz++ | trunk:
: [PCR]
: - Pugs::Emitter::Grammar::Perl5 : set sigspace for "rule XXX {...}"
: and calls the backtracking rule emitter for "regex XXX {...}".
: - added tests to t/04-compiler-grammar.t for this.
: - the ratchet rule emitter : saved the emitter params as special
: comments in the generated code to help debugging.
: - added some remaining issues to the TODO file.
diff: dev.pugscode.org/changeset/16908
lambdabot Title: Changeset 16908 - Pugs - Trac
masak Alias_: exactly...
agentzh she's been resting at home mostly.
Alias_ burned out?
agentzh Alias_: sort of
Alias_ I did real something about some sort of health thing 12:17
masak yes
hepatitis
Alias_ ouch
which one?
masak don't remember 12:18
prolly not fun either way
Alias_ ya, but I think it might matter
masak might have been A
?eval my @a = ^5; say @a[*-1];
12:18 evalbot_r16866 is now known as evalbot_r16908
evalbot_r16908 OUTPUT[0ā¤] Bool::True 12:18
masak evalbot_r16908: nope 12:19
masak needs to stop the bad habit of saying 'say' to evalbot
Alias_ I really wish I had gotten cvsmonitor working on svn
Would have made this whole "who's doing what" thing so much easier
masak Alias_: what does cvsmonitor do? 12:20
Alias_ Let me see if I can find a working one
In short though, it monitors cvs repositories
masak ya :)
Alias_ ali.as/cgi-bin/demo/stable/cvsmonit...OpenSource 12:21
There's a good example
lambdabot Title: CVS Monitor - Browsing Alias.OpenSource, tinyurl.com/258vby
Alias_ My open source coding, until I migrated it to svn
Actually, that's boring
Let me find you an interesting one
ali.as/cgi-bin/demo/stable/cvsmonit...dule=E.e17
masak nifty 12:22
Alias_ Enlightenment :)
lambdabot Title: CVS Monitor - Browsing E.e17, tinyurl.com/chbtn
Alias_ That's a better idea of the interesting stuff that results
masak I wish I'd had that for my projects
you were saying it doesn't work for svn?
Alias_ Nah, I never ported it
masak that's a shame
Alias_ It's a priorities thing
masak 'course 12:23
Alias_ Someone else could, fairly likely
I ended up working on PPI and PITA and CPAN upgrades and a 100 bazillion modules instead
Neatest part though
It worked as a CVS client
So it doesn't have to run on the server, you can point it at anything you have anonymous read rights to
masak cool
sounds like the Right Thing
should be able to do the same thing with svn 12:24
Alias_ That second URL is "So WTF even happened to the Enlightenment Window Manager Anyways?"
I already broken the repository back-end code up into a driver API
I've
So it's mostly a case of someone filling out the svn stubs
And negotiating my horrible old-style CGI code 12:25
I was asked to write a Perforce backend at one point
But they never came through with the money
Otherwise we could point it at the Perl 5 source :)
masak & # afk 12:26
agentzh Alias_: neat
Alias_ Someone later wrote a commercial clone in Java that I believe supports SVN 12:27
Dunno if it does the "point it at other people's code" thing though
agentzh heh
pointing it at pugs' code...
Alias_ which was always the killer feature for me :)
pugs is in CVS?
agentzh svn
Alias_ meh
If there's a svn2cvs around you can spit it into, I can do it though
agentzh GNU make's repos is in CVS though 12:28
Alias_ Where's that?
I'll add it now :)
agentzh @google GNU make
lambdabot www.gnu.org/software/make/
Title: GNU Make - GNU Project - Free Software Foundation (FSF)
Alias_ hmm 12:29
ok, adding it :)
agentzh Alias++
Alias_ Man, it's old, but I love CVSMonitor still
One of my favourite orphans
agentzh understood :)
Alias_ heh, I still remember the admin password too 12:30
agentzh Alias_: your server is kinda slow on my side...
Alias_ CVSMonitor is kind of a resource hog 12:31
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Alias_ REALLY 12:31
Like 200meg for those enlightenment pages
agentzh wow
Alias_ (ram)
It's my test case for farging enormous repositories
Takes over an hour to pull all the metadata
agentzh *impressed* 12:32
Alias_ <-- kicks ass when he finds a good idea
ok, repository self-tests ok and added
Let me find out what module names they use
agentzh Alias_: i've also something with pugs's repos using svk
Alias_: i'll show you the page...
Alias_ hang a sec, adding gnu :) 12:33
BTW, because it's such a heavy app, look at the bottom of the cvsmon page :)
I actually had to add that warning
agentzh Alias_: perlcabal.org/agent/stats/report.html
lambdabot Title: report - ę•°ę®ęŒ–ęŽ˜ęŠ„å‘Š
Alias_ My server got melted at one point
agentzh Alias_: you can ignore the chinese chars in it :)
Alias_: it's a static page rather than a cgi 12:34
Alias_ ya
Mine is sorta split
agentzh Alias_: "Please do not SlashDot this application" ?
Alias_ There's an admin backgrounded process that does metadata pulling and analysis
And it generates a giant Storable structure 12:35
And saves it
agentzh Alias_: *nod*
it indeed costs a lot of resource...
Alias_ Storable is 95% of my process time :)
Or something rediculous
agentzh Alias_: why not use RMDB? 12:36
Alias_ RMDB?
agentzh sorry, i mean relational data base
Alias_ ah
Because 1) Probably slower
2) SQLite didn't exist at the time
3) Circular and complex data structures 12:37
agentzh fair enough
Alias_ It just turned out the only easy way to do it was generate the huge object tree and storable it
hmm
the source browser is dead
So I don't know what modules exist in the make cvs
agentzh ah 12:38
Alias_ That was always one of the problems with cvs
agentzh modules?
Alias_ The fact you have to know the name of the modules in the repository 12:39
agentzh it's odd
Alias_ There's not really an easy way to see them
It's a legacy of it's design by accretion
agentzh hehe
is svn suffering from the same problem?
Alias_ nah
agentzh good 12:40
Alias_ svn fixes most of cvs' problems
agentzh svn++
Alias_ Adds a few new problems, but fixes most of them
Well
not really :)
There's no such thing as a branch or a tag in svn
Which complicates things a lot
Means writing svn port for cvsmonitor is supremely hard
agentzh we have to add branches explicitly in svn?
Alias_ branches are implemented as policy 12:41
They only exist in wetware
The software has no idea what a "branch" is
It just sees copies
agentzh aye
Alias_ Making a Tag: svn copy foo bar
Making a Branch: svn copy foo bar
Making a Copy: svn copy foo bar
:)
agentzh *nod* 12:42
that's what i've been doing ;)
Alias_ CVS Monitor has a bunch of smarts to be able to tell added and removed lines
It's what the karma scores are derived from
And it's branch-aware, mostly
agentzh hmm
Alias_ Making a branch should be considered adding lines :)
agentzh that's cool
Alias_ yeah, it was :)
er 12:43
making a branch should NOT be considered adding lines
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Alias_ I'm going to guess there's a module called "src" in the make repository 12:43
agentzh heh
Alias_: btw, for a separate issue...PPI has problems parsing heredocs like <<\EOF 12:44
Alias_ WTF is <<\EOF?
Man, _I_ have a problem parsing that
No wonder PPI does
agentzh Alias_: an old p4 syntax
still supported by p5
Alias_ ugh
agentzh like <<'EOF'
make's test suite makes heavy use of this odd syntax.
Alias_ hmm 12:45
You are welcome to add support :)
agentzh i was using PPI to convert make's test suite (in p4) to Test::Base and found the problem...
heh
Alias_ The heredoc area of PPI is _relatively_ self-contained
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agentzh Alias_: and heredoc gives problem to regen p5 code from PDOM trees 12:46
Alias_ hmm?
It should be mostly ok
If you are using ->serialize
agentzh Alias_: i can't use ->content directly
Alias_ No, you can't
agentzh is there a serialize method?
sorry, i'm not aware of that.
Alias_ Because ->content ignores "rolled up" lines
agentzh Alias_: yes, i know
Alias_ heredoc content is not considered part of the content
It's sort of "rolled up" 12:47
Because it's line-oriented
So it exists in a special location in the tree
And when you write to a file it gets "unrolled" to the line stream
agentzh yes, i've read this from the PPI docs :)
Alias_ Sp ->serialize is the method you use to serialize the Perl code :)
->content is mostly a convenience
So 12:48
agentzh serialize must be new method?
Alias_ No, been there since 1.00
"rollups" are also where stuff inside of "use v6" sections will go
agentzh weird...which class?
Alias_ PPI::Document
agentzh thanks
Alias_ Because you can't serialize fragments of perl
The concept is illogical 12:49
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Alias_ Well, not arbitrary trees anyways 12:49
agentzh k 12:50
Alias_: PPI makes a lot of apps possible :) 12:51
Alias_ blame heredocs :)
heh
Yes, yes it does
agentzh yup
Alias_ The supreme irony is that, having written it, I do almost nothing with it :)
ppi_version is my main usage
Well, perlver too I guess
So I use it here and there
But not to the extent I probably could be
agentzh lol 12:52
Alias_ I don't trust it yet
For some reason there's a half dozen files in CPAN that explode it's memory usage
agentzh for example?
Alias_ When you are running all of CPAN, knowing which one is exploding your memory usage is hard
Because it takes 6 hours of processing to get to that point :) 12:53
I've never actually worked out which one it is
agentzh okay
Alias_ When I get back to working on CPAN::Metric I'll work it out
agentzh i wonder if you have a $day_job ;)
Alias_ ya
I do
agentzh you seem to have done so much work
Alias_ Well, my general policy is to make the two align 12:54
If I need something for work, I stall a bit and do it as a CPAN module
agentzh good point
Alias_ And I've been careful to insist on the right to do that when I get jobs
agentzh will do this too!
Alias_ And really, it's not THAT much code
Yaakov Hello, Alias_.
Alias_ sloccount says my entire repository for CPAN is only 66,000 lines of code 12:55
I reuse a lot of code
And most of my CPAN stuff is small
agentzh reuses Alias's code
my UML::Class::Simple is also small
because your Class::Inspector does most of the stuff for me :)
Alias_ :)
Alias_ was really proud to see the PPI tree model get stolen btw 12:56
agentzh it's a reuse chain...hehe
Alias_ Was that you?
For JavaScript or something...
agentzh Alias_: yup
Alias_ ya
Was really excited to see it :)
agentzh Alias_: 50% of the GNU make test suite is passing for my makefile library
Alias_ ah right
Make syntax, that's right
agentzh which has a PPI-like tree
Alias_ Now I remember
Wasn't exactly sure which language 12:57
agentzh i haven't got cycles to upload the stuff to cpan
Alias_ See, that's another reason I get a lot done
ruthless release automation
agentzh ah
a script?
Alias_ perl build_cpan.pl --install --commit Module::Name
agentzh awesome 12:58
i'll write one for myself ;)
Alias_ Runs QA on it, adds needed files automagically, adds author tests, cleans up newlines and stuff, runs the tests, checks it, reruns them, make tardists, adds the dist to the svn repository, commits, then gives me the URL for the location of the tarball in the repository
And I have a firefox bookmark to upload a URI to pause 12:59
agentzh omg
Alias_ So "copy" from putty, and in firefox "release (paste URI)"
And PAUSE pulls the distribution tarball straight out of SVN :)
agentzh that's so cool
moritz Alias_: you're a geek ;-) 13:00
Alias_ svn.ali.as/cpan/tools/build_cpan.pl
moritz: It's entirely practical, I swear. :)
Do you have any idea how many releases I've done :)
Shiteloads
moritz Alias_: that's no contradiction
Alias_ svn.ali.as/cpan/releases/
lambdabot Title: Revision 1902: /releases
Alias_ That's just since I moved to svn 13:01
So yeah, without the slowly evolving automation, I could never manage it
I'm working on my own equivalent of Insurrection or CommitBit so I can add maintainers more easily :)
svn.ali.as/why.jpg
wolverian does it work well with opera mini? :) 13:02
Alias_ Probably
wolverian (opera mini)++ # much better than the horrible browser your mobile comes with
(opera mini)-- # goodbye privacy
Alias_ wolverian: I also tested svn.ali.as today with the EVE Online in-game browser :) 13:03
wolverian heh
Alias_ So I can both fly space ships and add maintainers :)
I'll add a screen shot later :)
wolverian I assume the wii browser works too
Alias_ I want to start a collection
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Alias_ Probably :) 13:03
Got a wii and a camera?
wolverian no camera :/
agentzh goes to work on a p5 version of Pugs::Grammar::Rule2.pm. 13:05
Alias_ agentzh, anyways, can you please submit a bug report on PPI for that heredoc feature you need? 13:09
They generally get done
agentzh Alias_: will do later :)
Alias_ ok
Cause I have a PPI timeslice coming up soonish
agentzh Alias_: i was just a bit lazy but will do, anyway :)
Alias_ And if you miss it, it will likely be a while till the next one 13:10
agentzh cute
Alias_ Audrey terminology
agentzh doing now
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agentzh Alias_: done :) 13:13
Alias_ thanks
agentzh Alias_: thank *you* :)
Alias_ nah, no problem 13:14
small syntax bugs are relatively easy
And it's ironing out the nigglies that make it so much more useful day by day
And keep people excited, when it handles even the stuff they think isn't possible
Gotta maintain the illusion :)
agentzh yeah 13:15
exactly
Alias_ when I went to OSCON to release it, I made especially sure I had added support for all the cases I knew merlyn was gunna throw at me as things that perl parsers couldn't possibly handle :) 13:16
And I was right :)
I did a demo at pdx.pm and he started giving me examples, all the ones I expected :)
First time I ever wiped the smirk right off him :)
agentzh *g* 13:17
Alias_ Actually, one of the highlights of my Perl career I think
in retrospect
wolverian I hope he appreciated it as much as you did :)
Alias_ oh sure
Spent a great night getting sloshed with him at a martini bar in Melbourne last YAPC::AU 13:18
And he's one of the few people that actually understand why PPI works at the zen level :)
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Alias_ I think it's like maybe 6 people 13:18
me, merlyn, audrey, and a few others 13:19
wolverian there are bars just for martinis?
Alias_ wolverian: sure is :)
In Melbourne at least
wolverian insane world
Alias_ hidden down an alley somewhere
amazing place, really funky
like out of another time
wolverian and then you google 'em and find out they're really popular and have a really web2.0 site 13:20
Alias_ oh sure
But it still felt like another world
moritz why should a bar have a web2.0ish site? 13:21
wolverian meh, now my summer feels so dull :)
Alias_ heh 13:22
moritz: Because that's the the generic design company sold them, using Frontpage.NET default Web 2.0 automation
or something in that general situation
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moritz omfg 13:24
xdemondogx ?
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moritz ! 13:25
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Alias_ ? 13:27
xdemondogx ?
moritz !!?
devbot6 moritz: Error: "!?" is not a valid command.
xdemondogx ?? 13:28
moritz devbot6: and ! is?
devbot6 moritz: Error: "and" is not a valid command.
moritz devbot6: help
devbot6 moritz: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
moritz wow, that was helpful
wolverian devbot6, list 13:29
devbot6 wolverian: Admin, Channel, Config, Misc, Owner, RSS, Services, TracBot, User, and Web
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moritz devbot6: help User 13:29
devbot6 moritz: Error: There is no command "user".
moritz that would have been too easy
wolverian devbot6, list User 13:30
devbot6 wolverian: capabilities, changename, hostmask, hostmask add, hostmask list, hostmask remove, identify, list, register, set password, set secure, stats, unidentify, unregister, username, and whoami
moritz !RSS
devbot6 moritz: (rss <url> [<number of headlines>]) -- Gets the title components of the given RSS feed. If <number of headlines> is given, return only that many headlines.
wolverian see, it's logical, if you know the logic
(;
moritz devbot6: help help 13:33
devbot6 moritz: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
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svnbot6 r16909 | agentz++ | trunk: 13:40
: [PCR]
: - added examples/langs2.grammar to demonstrate the use of
: the "rule foo { ... }" syntax.
: - added a test to 16-examples.t for langs2.grammar.
: - fixed emitter/00-ratchet.t
pugs_svnbot r16909 | agentz++ | trunk:
: [PCR]
: - added examples/langs2.grammar to demonstrate the use of
: the "rule foo { ... }" syntax.
: - added a test to 16-examples.t for langs2.grammar.
: - fixed emitter/00-ratchet.t
diff: dev.pugscode.org/changeset/16909
lambdabot Title: Changeset 16909 - Pugs - Trac
agentzh weird...
two bots are reporting the same commit?
well, anyway, my karma has doubled :) 13:41
fglock agentzh: I found the bug in your paste; there is an error in the parameter order for calling subrules 13:42
lambdabot fglock: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it.
agentzh fglock: you mean the adder sample? 13:43
fglock agentzh: re release: congrats :)
agentzh fglock: thanks :)
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fglock the digit counter example; I'll try to fix it 13:44
agentzh fglock: yay!
fglock I wonder why I didn't notice that before
agentzh fglock: because there's not enough tests! haha! 13:45
moritz maybe audreyt restartet svnbot6 assuming it was down? 13:46
agentzh audreyt++ 13:47
moritz diakopter++ # managing bots, cleaning up irc logs 13:48
agentzh fglock: will try to do another CPAN release for PCR tonight :) 13:49
moritz 1771 lines are marked as spam atm
agentzh moritz: maybe it's your cute log site attracts those spammers?
*g* 13:50
*that attracts
fglock: the counter example is examples/digits.grammar 13:53
fglock yes
agentzh fglock: and the corresponding test is in t/16-examples.t 13:54
fglock: currently it's skipped.
but it's looping...
hehe
*because
fglock: currently PCR's regex parser doesn't do any error handling. i'll look into v6.pm's parser since it seems to have some diagnostics for invalid inputs 13:56
Alias_ You are lost in a twisty series of grammars, all of them alike 13:57
moritz where do you want to turn (NWSE)?
Alias_ read NSFW for a sec there
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rindolf Hi Alias_ 14:01
Alias_ heya
How's things
rindolf Alias_: what's up?
Alias_: I'm fine.
Alias_: worked on XML::SemanticDiff.
Alias_ Hey, were you looking for maint on something? Did it ever get done?
rindolf Alias_: and then Kip Hamton (its author) re-surfaced.
Alias_ So did he set maint for you ok? 14:02
All happy?
rindolf Alias_: you mean co-maint for X-SD?
Alias_: well, actually, someone else did.
Alias_: from the CPAN Cabal.
Alias_ I am the CPAN Cabal :)
well, not really
But if there's nothing I need to do, that's fine 14:03
svnbot6 r16910 | fglock++ | trunk: 14:04
: [PCR] fixed a bug in the parameter ordering - agentzh++
pugs_svnbot r16910 | fglock++ | trunk:
: [PCR] fixed a bug in the parameter ordering - agentzh++
diff: dev.pugscode.org/changeset/16910
lambdabot Title: Changeset 16910 - Pugs - Trac
agentzh fglock++
rindolf Alias_: what time is it there?
agentzh wow, bots are racing..
Alias_ rindolf: midnight'ish 14:05
rindolf Alias_: I see.
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fglock agentzh: did it work? I'm switching back to kp6... :) 14:19
agentzh fglock: it works :)
fglock: could you document the subrule calling protocol somewhere when you have spare time? 14:20
fglock: such as parameter list and return values...
fglock: i'm having problems in understanding it
svnbot6 r16911 | agentz++ | trunk: 14:25
: [PCR]
: - updated examples/digits since fglock++ has already fixed it.
: - unSKIP'd the test in 16-examples.t for examples/digits.
: - updated emitter/00-ratchet.t since the emitter template has changed.
pugs_svnbot r16911 | agentz++ | trunk:
: [PCR]
: - updated examples/digits since fglock++ has already fixed it.
: - unSKIP'd the test in 16-examples.t for examples/digits.
: - updated emitter/00-ratchet.t since the emitter template has changed.
diff: dev.pugscode.org/changeset/16911
lambdabot Title: Changeset 16911 - Pugs - Trac
fglock agentzh: the calling protocol changed 2 times already - at Compiler::Regex near lines 143 and 150 there are some backward-compatibility hacks and a little documentation 14:41
it needs a cleanup
agentzh fglock: *nod*
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masak ok, correct me if I'm wrong, but... 14:47
t/data_types/array.t, test 53, "negative index [-1]"
that's got to be out-of-date, no?
it does this 14:49
?eval my @a = <a b c e>; @a[-1]
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masak ...which I'm pretty sure is written '@a[ *-1 ]' these days 14:50
moritz ...which is pretty ugly ;)
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masak moritz: but still 14:51
it's correct perl6, as the changing standard goes
moritz masak: aye
masak what's in the test isn't
moritz masak: then change it
masak ok :)
that's all I needed to hear
TimToady should likely also have a test that @a[-1] fails properly 14:56
masak TimToady: right. I'll work that in now 14:57
svnbot6 r16912 | masak++ | trunk:
: [t/data_types/array.t]
: * "negative index" -1 etc are now "end index" [*-1] etc
pugs_svnbot r16912 | masak++ | trunk:
: [t/data_types/array.t]
: * "negative index" -1 etc are now "end index" [*-1] etc
diff: dev.pugscode.org/changeset/16912
lambdabot Title: Changeset 16912 - Pugs - Trac
masak two bots! svnbot6++ pugs_svnbot++ :)
TimToady: so even reading of @a[-1] fails? or just writing? 14:58
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masak oops. was that me? 15:00
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agentzh masak: not likely 15:00
masak I only ever changed a .t file...
agentzh: good. carrying on :)
agentzh masak: we've been seeing this for months 15:01
masak agentzh: and no explanation?
agentzh masak: a messed-up pugs tree on feather maybe
masak agentzh: could be
agentzh: does no-one have privs to go look? 15:02
agentzh masak: many people have tried but with no luck so far
masak: or maybe you can work out the puzzle?
masak agentzh: oki
agentzh hehe 15:03
masak agentzh: not likely. for starters, I don't have a feather account
agentzh k
masak TimToady: I just went ahead and assumed now that even reading from [-1] on a normal array is fatal 15:04
svnbot6 r16913 | masak++ | trunk:
: added back a few failing -1 tests into t/data_types/array.t
pugs_svnbot r16913 | masak++ | trunk:
: added back a few failing -1 tests into t/data_types/array.t
diff: dev.pugscode.org/changeset/16913
lambdabot Title: Changeset 16913 - Pugs - Trac
masak maybe that was to harsh; in that case I'll be happy to change it to something less harsh, like a normal undefined value
s/to/too/ 15:05
actually, I could argue either way there 15:07
on one hand, accessing past the end of the array in the other direction (i.e. going above @a.end) only returns undef 15:08
TimToady it returns an unthrown exception, which is a variety of undef
but if you try to use the value, it should throw an exception
masak ok, so dies_ok is correct in the .t file for that?
TimToady as long as you do something like @a[-1] + 0 inside 15:09
masak ah -- no, right now only @a[-1]
I'll go change it
TimToady the direct result would merely test as undefined
biab & 15:10
masak oki
adding another test for that
hehe, now the test file hangs instead 15:12
svnbot6 r16914 | masak++ | trunk:
: changed t/data_types/array.t slightly after clarification
: from TimToady++
pugs_svnbot r16914 | masak++ | trunk: 15:13
: changed t/data_types/array.t slightly after clarification
: from TimToady++
diff: dev.pugscode.org/changeset/16914
lambdabot Title: Changeset 16914 - Pugs - Trac
masak it probably hangs because @a[*-4 .. *-2] is treated as something to do with infinity... 15:14
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masak hm, sometimes I find it tedious to keep the plan figure at the top of test files updated
wouldn't it be possible to write a simple script to count the tests?
one that took into account if blocks and for loops 15:16
I think such a script could avoid the Halting Problem issue on account of .t files never going above a certain complexity
specifically, they never contain infinite loops with test method calls 15:17
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pugs_svnbot r16915 | agentz++ | trunk: 15:17
: PCR - compile_p6grammar.pl - adds header comments to the generated p5 files
diff: dev.pugscode.org/changeset/16915
lambdabot Title: Changeset 16915 - Pugs - Trac
svnbot6 r16915 | agentz++ | trunk: 15:18
: PCR - compile_p6grammar.pl - adds header comments to the generated p5 files
masak agentzh: there are a couple of unrecognized files in the perl5/Pugs-Compiler-Perl6/t directory -- is it ok if I svn:ignore those? 15:19
agentzh really? looking
masak it's 01-sanity, builtins, Test.pm, 02-test-pm and data_types/array_extending.t 15:20
at least on my box, but maybe I haven't cleaned lately
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agentzh ah, you mean pugs's t/ 15:20
masak yes
agentzh i thought it was PCR's
masak no, wait, it is 15:21
agentzh okay, it's v6.pm's
i was just reading too fast
sorry
masak they're not there when I remove the directory structure and svn up
so they're probably generated by make
agentzh masak: they're copied from pugs's t/ 15:22
clkao worked that out iirc
they're mostly passing tests for v6.pm in the pugs test suite
masak agentzh: but I could just prop them as ignored so they don't show up when one does `svn st`? 15:23
agentzh masak: use svn st -q
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masak agentzh: why? I know what it does, but why should I have to? 15:23
agentzh masak: setting them as ignored is fine 15:24
masak great. I'll do that
svnbot6 r16916 | masak++ | trunk: 15:28
: props
pugs_svnbot r16916 | masak++ | trunk:
: props
diff: dev.pugscode.org/changeset/16916
lambdabot Title: Changeset 16916 - Pugs - Trac
pasteling "evalbot_r16915" at 193.200.132.135 pasted "Pugs build failure" (6 lines, 278B) at sial.org/pbot/26117 15:30
svnbot6 r16917 | masak++ | trunk: 15:36
: hiding autogenerated perl5/Pugs-Grammar-MiniPerl6/lib/Pugs/Grammar/MiniPerl6.pm too
pugs_svnbot r16917 | masak++ | trunk:
: hiding autogenerated perl5/Pugs-Grammar-MiniPerl6/lib/Pugs/Grammar/MiniPerl6.pm too
diff: dev.pugscode.org/changeset/16917
lambdabot Title: Changeset 16917 - Pugs - Trac
masak I'm peeking inside Pugs internals now 15:37
does anyone have a pointer to what the difference between IArray and VArray is?
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Jameswf 13 char 15:39
masak ?eval "V".ord - "I".ord 15:40
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masak Jameswf: I get it. Not quite what I was looking for, though
:)
if I know audreyt right, it's something more substantial than that 15:41
here's another 'cute' way to do it: 15:43
?eval [-] map :{ .ord } <v i>
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Jameswf IArray $sweeet[1] #index VArray $sweeet[juice] #value 15:44
my guess
masak Jameswf: please explain more verbosely than that
what's the second one? it doesn't parse in my brain
an index is a value too, yes? 15:45
Jameswf you can call an arrays contents my its indes 0-sizeof() or by value if you have set that so an array gas_prices[newyork] can also be gas_prices[0] 15:46
its how you make the call
masak Jameswf: you sure you're not thinking of PHP now?
that doesn't sound like Perl 6 to me 15:47
because (1) it's not a call, (2) you can't use a bareword inside the index [] like that, unless it's a defined method, and (3) using $ before the array is Perl5 (and PHP), not Perl 6 15:48
Jameswf it all sort of blends php perl c its like 40 different dialects of spanish, Some times you speak mexican to a puortorican 15:49
masak :)
to me they're very distinct
maybe not syntactically, but spiritually
when I use PHP, I feel dead; when I use Perl, I feel alive :) 15:50
Jameswf I was going for context more than syntaf thats why there were no ;
*syntax
masak Jameswf: anyway, I don't think that's it
this is internals we're talking about, so it's two different types of array being used inside Pugs 15:51
how you index a particular array should not come into the question
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Jameswf I cant find the terms on google except used as array names 15:54
masak I'm in src/Pugs/AST/Internals.hs now
there's a lot of types defined here starting with I 15:55
and many starting with V
trying to figure out what sets them apart
spinclad 'when 6.28 comes, every day will be Thursday'... 16:01
masak spinclad: :P 16:02
that's a great slogan
especially along with Arthur Dent's "This must be Thursday. I could never get the hang of Thursdays." 16:03
spinclad 'when i catch up with the backlog, every time will be 08:10' 16:05
(12:10 UTC) 16:06
masak I also find a lot of SV and V suffixes in the names in the Pugs internals
spinclad yeah, or Belgium
masak they remind me of something from Perl 5 internals 16:07
& # dinner 16:11
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: [kp6] p5regex - implemented positional captures
pugs_svnbot r16918 | fglock++ | trunk:
: [kp6] p5regex - implemented positional captures
diff: dev.pugscode.org/changeset/16918
lambdabot Title: Changeset 16918 - Pugs - Trac
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: [kp6] p5regex - quantified positionals capture to an array
pugs_svnbot r16919 | fglock++ | trunk:
: [kp6] p5regex - quantified positionals capture to an array
diff: dev.pugscode.org/changeset/16919
lambdabot Title: Changeset 16919 - Pugs - Trac
TimToady ?eval [-] map :{ .ord } <v i> 17:19
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TimToady that should not parse
?eval [-] map { .ord }, <v i>
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TimToady ?eval [-] map <v i>, :{ .ord } 17:20
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TimToady but a :{} where a term is expected should be expecting an infix after it.
so it should have taken < as a less than
so probably parsec being overly backtracky... 17:21
@tell masak I think probably @a[-1] with a literal negative should be a compilation failure 17:22
lambdabot Consider it noted.
TimToady @tell masak in order to catch a frequent P5Think error sooner than runtime. But @a[$negative] is still a runtime failure 17:23
lambdabot Consider it noted.
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fglock just checking - named assertions don't capture, right? like <before ...> 17:56
or do I need <?before ...> for that
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fglock are captures-inside-assertions discarded? as in <before (...) > 17:59
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fglock nevermind, I found the answer to my question 18:03
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vadrer ?eval say 'hello'; 18:48
evalbot_r16919 OUTPUT[helloā¤] Bool::True
masak ?eval 'hello'
evalbot_r16919 "hello"
smg ?eval print for <1 2 3 4 5> 18:49
evalbot_r16919 OUTPUT[] undef
smg ?eval map { print } <1 2 3 4 5>
evalbot_r16919 Error: ā¤Unexpected "2"ā¤expecting operator
masak ?eval [~] <1 2 3 4 5>
evalbot_r16919 "12345"
smg is this lisp or perl?
masak smg: perl 6 18:50
lambdabot masak: You have 2 new messages. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read them.
smg what is [~] ?
masak wee, messages!
smg masak: tell what's [~] pls
masak @messages
lambdabot TimToady said 1h 28m 4s ago: I think probably @a[-1] with a literal negative should be a compilation failure
TimToady said 1h 26m 36s ago: in order to catch a frequent P5Think error sooner than runtime. But @a[$negative] is still a runtime failure
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masak smg: ~ is string concatenation 18:50
like the old . in perl 5
smg lol
but what does ~ concatenate then? 18:51
masak [~] takes a whole list and concatenates all the items
smg k
like join "" ?
masak smg: ~ concatenates strings
smg: yes
smg damn
is there a page for all changes from perl 5 => perl 6?
masak @tell TimToady re @a[-1]: ok. that's half of what I thought too 18:52
lambdabot Consider it noted.
masak @tell TimToady I will change the test to reflect this
lambdabot Consider it noted.
masak smg: yes. let me find it for you
smg thx 18:53
i'm too lazy atm
feather.perl6.nl/syn/Differences.html <-this?
lambdabot Title: Perl6::Perl5::Differences
smg lambdabot: true
masak not the one I was thinking about
smg okay then find the better one from your memory pls for me
:)
masak here you go: svn.pugscode.org/pugs/docs/other/porting_howto 18:54
but even better is to download pugs and look at all the tests
they tell the whole story about the syntax and semantics
smg all the tests 18:55
where can i find them?
masak in the pugs repository
smg mh
masak which you can download in a number of ways 18:56
check out pugscode.org
jjore smg, the [ ] around ~ turned it into a reduce operation.
smg lol
that's really evil
it's from haskell?
jjore it accepts any function btw.
op, rather.
smg isn't [ ] anonymous array?
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jjore no, not at this place. 18:56
smg k 18:57
context?
jjore dunno. probably?
smg k
:)
i love perl 5
jjore I love perl 6 harder.
smg but i can't stand with perl 6 atm
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Tene smg: why? 18:59
Gothmog_ it takes some getting used to, but that was just as true for perl 5, and its worth it 19:00
Juerd it's
smg i dunno
:)
masak smg: I agree with Gothmog_. Perl 6 is still in the spirit of Perl.
smg it is 19:01
masak except it has more neat stuff to play with
Juerd I guess that depends on the definition of Perl's spirit :)
smg i will see
for the moment i dislike some major changes for perl 6
but maybe i get used to them
masak Juerd: yes, it kind of has to depend on that :)
Juerd I personally think some parts of Perl 6 are too complicated, and Perl 5 always felt simple.
jjore Perl 6 is just tons of great stuff that's way too hard to implement in Perl 5 as add-ons. *You* try writing macros in Perl 5.
Blech.
masak smg: most of the changes have good reasons behind them
avar ha! perl5 felt simple?:) 19:02
Juerd masak: Hm... And which changes do not? :)
smg masak: i know, because i know the perl6 developers are good
Juerd avar: Yes. Simple, not easy.
masak Juerd: I think I agree on some points, junctions for example
jjore junctions are what you've been using in SQL for ages now!
smg masak: but in the first place they look uncomfortable, but i understand :)
avar Perl [56] are a lot of things, but I wouldn't say simple is one of them, at least not on the language level
Juerd masak: I think junctions are relatively simple. Multidimensional anything, however, argh. I just don't get that.
avar Maybe on the "there's lots of code written for you via cpan" level
masak Juerd: hm, which changes do not have good reasons behind them? maybe none. have to thing about that 19:03
Juerd avar: Not simple like PHP :)
avar: But Perl 5 is much simpler than Perl 6
masak smg: give it some time
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Juerd avar: I think references are simpler than captures, for example 19:03
avar: And arrays of arrays, simpler than multidimensional arrays. 19:04
avar Juerd: No, the other way around. You can easily explain some things on p6 which would take whole days to explain in p5:)
Yeah maybe, but syntax and some other semantics are simpler
Juerd avar: I doubt it.
avar and some or not, *shrug*
b_jonas and lambdas simpler then p6 functions with prototypes and stuff, but that's what we get
Alias_ jjore: I for one don't think the new constructor stuff is something that's way too hard to implement in Perl 5
masak interesting discussion
Juerd Well, yes, some things. And those are probably the changes that I like :)
Alias_ I'm not a far
fan
Juerd The other changes, I'll just take because I long for the good stuff :) 19:05
b_jonas multidimensional array can be a performance thing in some cases
Gothmog_ I think arrays of arrays are rather clumsy if you want something multidimensional.
jjore Alias_: ok, but the new constructor syntax is implemented in perl 5 as source filters.
that sucks.
Juerd b_jonas: I still think that such things are nice to have, but as an extension rather than in the main language.
b_jonas especially if you have numeric arrays
Juerd b_jonas: Same for junctions, perhaps.
Alias_ jjore: Sure, but I don't like having it imposed on eme
me
agentzh question: how to avoid warnings like "Name XXX used only once: possible typo"?
jjore I'd much prefer to have ASTs or similar to work with.
Alias_ ... because it's someone's favourite constructor stule 19:06
style
b_jonas well, I don't like p6 junctions in code either, yep
Juerd agentzh: Use it twice or disable warnings :)
b_jonas agentzh: our can work in some cases
Alias_ agentzh: $foo = $foo :(
b_jonas our $foo that is
masak sometimes I'm afraid that junctions will not be introspectable enough
b_jonas but not always
agentzh Alias_: there's tons of such things...because it's generated code...
Juerd: no warnings may be a good idea 19:07
Juerd agentzh: That's what it's for.
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b_jonas you can no warnings just specific kinds of warnings 19:08
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agentzh b_jonas: what's the warning catagory for the "used only once" thing? 19:12
b_jonas agentzh: try "once"
agentzh k 19:13
b_jonas: it works, thanks :)
masak any tips on how to familiarize oneself with the internals of pugs? 19:14
I started today, but quickly ran into a lot of questions with no-one to ask 19:15
agentzh masak: it's a big project ;) 19:16
masak agentzh: so I gather.
agentzh masak: but i'm glad to see you've started :)
masak still, it's nice to know a little about what's going on under the hood
agentzh masak: one tip
masak my plan is to learn enough so that I can apply simple patches when I have the time
agentzh grep the irc logs over the years for audreyt, gaal, and other hs people's remarks 19:17
masak 'aight
agentzh it may helps
*help
masak maybe follow along with the svn logs/diffs as well...
agentzh masak: *nod*
masak takes deep breath 19:18
agentzh grins.
masak: maybe you'll become a second audreyt here and start hacking on src/
masak who knows? anything might happen 19:19
agentzh masak: yup
masak though at this point I doubt I could replace audreyt
I would have to quit my day job :)
agentzh lol
masak and even that would probably not be enough 19:20
agentzh fglock: caching is anti-testing...
masak: agreed
masak: you need huge hours...
masak I'm not worshipping audreyt, I'm just un deep awe
I hope she's soon well enough to carry on with pugs 19:21
agentzh fglock: yay! compile_p6grammar.pl generates a working Pugs::Grammar::Rule.pmc and all tests are passing :D
masak: me too
masak agentzh++ # cool 19:22
agentzh masak: thanks :)
it's much much faster...
let me time it...
$ time util/update-rule-pmc-new update 19:23
real 0m1.503s
user 0m1.416s
sys 0m0.080s
diakopter will return later tonight to fix 1. the default vhost on feather (which I broke yesterday with some incomplete changes before someone/cron restarted apache2), 2. fix the auto-builds of pugs, 3. implement the super-improved dalek I planned this morning (details later). bbl
agentzh while the traditional v6.pm approach takes much longer:
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agentzh $ time util/update-rule-pmc updateGenerating lib/Pug/Grammar/Rule2.pmc... 19:24
real 0m7.176s
user 0m7.072s
sys 0m0.088s
masak about a 4-fold improvement, not bad
agentzh indeed!
masak what's the sikkrit?
agentzh sikkrit? 19:25
offby1 he means "Sekrit"
obviously can't spell :-)
as in, "sekrit password"
masak offby1: :)
agentzh ah
masak offby1: I honestly didn't know it had a correct inkurikt spelling 19:26
agentzh compile_p6grammar doesn't parse p6 code, it only parse p6 regexes
*parses
masak offby1: that's what you get for not being a native english speaker, I guess
agentzh: and that makes it faster? 19:27
agentzh masak: yes :)
compiling full perl 6 is slow...
while compiling just perl 6 regexes can be rather efficient.
masak ok 19:28
sounds like interesting code to look at...
agentzh the code in actions are treated as Perl 5
or source-filtered Perl 5 :)
i'll commit the stuff...
masak do so
agentzh a sec 19:29
it's a huge commit 19:30
svnbot6 r16920 | fglock++ | trunk: 19:32
: [kp6] p5regex - fixed quantified captures
: - added v6/docs/p6regex-on-p5regex.txt
pugs_svnbot r16920 | fglock++ | trunk:
: [kp6] p5regex - fixed quantified captures
: - added v6/docs/p6regex-on-p5regex.txt
diff: dev.pugscode.org/changeset/16920
lambdabot Title: Changeset 16920 - Pugs - Trac
masak it's always nice to see big commits... 19:33
agentzh still working on the log message... 19:34
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svnbot6 r16921 | masak++ | trunk: 19:37
: [t/data_types/array.t]
: * changes based on input from TimToady++
pugs_svnbot r16921 | masak++ | trunk:
: [t/data_types/array.t]
: * changes based on input from TimToady++
diff: dev.pugscode.org/changeset/16921
lambdabot Title: Changeset 16921 - Pugs - Trac
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masak that was just a tiny commit :) 19:37
agentzh committed
pugs_svnbot r16922 | agentz++ | trunk: 19:38
: [PCR]
: - added examples/Grammar.grammar which is the grammar spec
: for Perl 6 regexes themselves.
: this grammar file can be compiled by util/compile_p6grammar.pl
: down to a .pm file and replaces lib/Pugs/Grammar/Rule.pmc.
svnbot6 r16922 | agentz++ | trunk:
: [PCR]
: - added examples/Grammar.grammar which is the grammar spec
: for Perl 6 regexes themselves.
: this grammar file can be compiled by util/compile_p6grammar.pl
pugs_svnbot : - added util/update-rule-pmc-new to automate this process.
svnbot6 : down to a .pm file and replaces lib/Pugs/Grammar/Rule.pmc.
: - added util/update-rule-pmc-new to automate this process.
pugs_svnbot : - updated Rule.pmc using this new approach. It's about 4 times
svnbot6 : - updated Rule.pmc using this new approach. It's about 4 times
pugs_svnbot : faster than the traditional v6.pm approach!
: - set $NoCache to 1 by default in P::C::Regex to help testing
svnbot6 : faster than the traditional v6.pm approach!
pugs_svnbot : (will reset to 0 before release though).
svnbot6 : - set $NoCache to 1 by default in P::C::Regex to help testing
pugs_svnbot : (no regressions)
svnbot6 : (will reset to 0 before release though).
pugs_svnbot diff: dev.pugscode.org/changeset/16922
svnbot6 : (no regressions)
masak whoa
competing bots
agentzh masak, fglock, avar: Please see svn.pugscode.org/pugs/perl5/Pugs-Co...ar.grammar
lambdabot tinyurl.com/2ez2j3
masak agentzh: oki
agentzh PCR now uses compile_p6grammar.pl to compile this grammar file down to its own regex parser (i.e. Pugs::Grammar::Rule.pmc) 19:39
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masak agentzh: nice 19:39
agentzh in other words, this part is self-hosting.
masak agentzh: not bad
agentzh (in fact, it's a grammar parser) 19:40
a superset of Perl 6 regexes.
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masak I still have the feeling I'd be even more impressed if I had a better overview of Perl 6 work 19:41
but a self-hosting grammar does sound important
avar agentzh: ah, %{}% is perl5 code?
agentzh avar: yup
avar: so is the actions
(to be more accurate, the action code goes through a source-filter which de-sugars things like $/ and $<foo>) 19:42
avar well, they look sort-of-p6
ah, yeah
masak agentzh: why p5?
agentzh source-filters may give troubles but they're pretty handy.
masak: because p5 is fast! 19:43
masak agentzh: oh yeah, that's why
agentzh and more complete, more flexibale and more stable
fglock agentzh: looking
agentzh *flexible
avar ..and p6 isn't going to be here until next**{inf} christmas:)
agentzh right
Tene So, can we do source filters in p6 still if we want to? 19:44
masak avar: don't say that :( you're making me cry
rindolf Hi all! Can anyone help with this Prolog problem sial.org/pbot/26119 ? 19:45
lambdabot Title: Paste #26119 from "rindolf" at 82.81.175.57
masak in a way, p6 is here already
agentzh fglock: some parts of Grammar.grammar look ugly because PCR has inconsistent calling protocol between named subrules and anonymous subrules :(
Tene: there's macros in Perl 6. 19:46
Tene: they're more stable source-filters :)
avar and you can override the grammar lexically, presumably 19:47
Tene agentzh: yes, but how difficult would it be to do a traditional source filter? ;)
agentzh fglock: it has taken me many hours to get it right ;)
Tene: not sure... 19:48
jjore rindolf: solving for any one word is sufficient. You asked for word(...) OR word(...) OR ...
avar Tene: as in override the IO layer when it's reading in source files?
rindolf jjore: ah, I see. 19:49
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fglock agentzh: you should take a look at token-test.pl - p6rx-on-p5rx is close to usable :) 19:49
agentzh fglock: yes, i will!
rindolf jjore: thanks. 19:50
jjore np.
avar fglock: as in via kp6?
rindolf jjore: I indeed mixed between ";" (OR) and "," (AND).
fglock avar: yes; but it is portable to PCR
rindolf jjore: also had a few variable problems.
jjore sure. 19:51
avar fglock: If you get it working well enough kp6 might replace pcr:) 19:52
agentzh avar: the parser can be written in kp6 at least 19:53
fglock that's the idea
agentzh fglock: i'll try to find some time to work on a p6 regex tracer with a web UI tomorrow... 19:55
fglock: we need a good tool to debug grammars, it seems
fglock: not sure how good it will be, but i have some interesting ideas in my head aleady 19:56
avar something like -Mre=debug ?
agentzh avar: more descriptive
avar how so?
agentzh avar: it has a GUI.
avar: it's easier to explain once i can give you a live demo :) 19:57
avar: but i can't promise anything but i'd like to try :) 19:58
too late to make a PCR release tonight...4am already...
will crash soon...
see you guys "tomorrow"... & 19:59
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masak agentzh: 'night 19:59
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fglock does / (.) $0 := (.) / overwrite $0, or does it capture to an array? 20:03
masak fglock: good question. is that covered in the synopses? 20:06
fglock kind of - it's a corner case 20:07
masak definitely
I don't understand your second alternative fully, it seems magical to me
so I would go for 'overwrite' 20:08
fglock masak: / $<x> := (.) $<x> := (.) / captures to @( $<x> ) 20:09
masak oh -- didn't know that 20:10
fglock I wonder if positional captures do the same, and to what extent I should care in compile-time
masak it's not compatible with my current understanding of binding :=
seemingly they work differently in regexes 20:11
fglock yes, it's regex named-capture binding
masak :)
and it still seems magical, but now intentionally so
now the latter alternative seems more plausible to me 20:12
I seem to remember there was something wonky with regex array captures 20:16
wonder if it ever got fixed...
audreyt wrote an email about it months ago, with an opinion that sounded like sanity compared to the (then) semantics of array capture 20:17
I don't know if it has been addressed 20:18
here's the thread in question: groups.google.com/group/perl.perl6....d848ac8019 20:20
lambdabot Title: Motivation for /&lt;alpha&gt;+/ set Array not Match? - perl.perl6.language | Goo ..., tinyurl.com/yub8y7
masak anyone know what happened to that issue? last I heard from TimToady was that he needed to discuss it with TheDamian
fglock masak: yes, that was my idea, but it was not approved 20:22
masak fglock: oh, so things are still the way they were before the proposal? 20:23
is there a discussion recorded somewhere explaining why it wasn't approved?
fglock I'll take a look 20:24
masak upon rereading the thread, it still seems clear to me that the then semantics are strange and surprising
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masak it's stuff like this that makes me glad p6 is still quite fluid 20:30
rho is back
masak there's still room for opinions and improvement
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: [kp6] p5regex - implemented / $<named> := (...) /
pugs_svnbot r16923 | fglock++ | trunk:
: [kp6] p5regex - implemented / $<named> := (...) /
diff: dev.pugscode.org/changeset/16923
lambdabot Title: Changeset 16923 - Pugs - Trac
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svnbot6 r16924 | fglock++ | trunk: 22:00
: [kp6] p5regex - the match-result-interpreter now uses a dispatch table
pugs_svnbot r16924 | fglock++ | trunk:
: [kp6] p5regex - the match-result-interpreter now uses a dispatch table
diff: dev.pugscode.org/changeset/16924
lambdabot Title: Changeset 16924 - Pugs - Trac
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svnbot6 r16925 | fglock++ | trunk: 22:42
: [kp6] p5regex - named captures can capture to array
pugs_svnbot r16925 | fglock++ | trunk:
: [kp6] p5regex - named captures can capture to array
diff: dev.pugscode.org/changeset/16925
lambdabot Title: Changeset 16925 - Pugs - Trac
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clkao seen xdg 22:55
fglock clkao: hi 22:58
clkao hola 22:59
fglock clkao: would you update Sub-Multi in cpan? I've committed a small fix 23:00
clkao oh sure
do you want to comaint it?
fglock sure, but please make the upload this time, if possible 23:01
clkao sure 23:02
fglock thanks :)
clkao you've got CHANGES /version etc all set?
you didn't add a failing test for the thing you fixed ;) 23:03
jrockway hmm, is moose using Sub::Multi yet?
that would be pretty cool
fglock looking
clkao now again
how the fuck do i generate meta.yml 23:04
why does it all stop working
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fglock clkao: sorry, no tests in Sub::Multi; the failing test belongs to v6.pm 23:05
jrockway WriteAll(meta => 1) ?
fglock dev.pugscode.org/changeset/15766
jrockway then rerun Makefile.PL
clkao right, i mean there should be unit test in s::m :)
lambdabot Title: Changeset 15766 - Pugs - Trac
clkao no worky
fglock: there you go 23:12
svnbot6 r16926 | clkao++ | trunk:
: Sub-Multi 0.003
pugs_svnbot r16926 | clkao++ | trunk:
: Sub-Multi 0.003
diff: dev.pugscode.org/changeset/16926
lambdabot Title: Changeset 16926 - Pugs - Trac
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fglock clkao: thank you :) 23:14
clkao fglock: you are comaint now as well
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svnbot6 r16927 | fglock++ | trunk: 23:41
: [kp6]
: - added 'perl5rx' target:
: $ perl kp6-perl5.pl --perl5rx < examples/token-test.pl | perl -I lib5regex -I lib
: - same-name captures now correctly capture to array
pugs_svnbot r16927 | fglock++ | trunk: 23:42
: [kp6]
: - added 'perl5rx' target:
: $ perl kp6-perl5.pl --perl5rx < examples/token-test.pl | perl -I lib5regex -I lib
: - same-name captures now correctly capture to array
diff: dev.pugscode.org/changeset/16927
lambdabot Title: Changeset 16927 - Pugs - Trac
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