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Set by TimToady on 25 January 2008.
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pugs_svnbot r21114 | Auzon++ | [gsoc_spectest] reorganization and a few more tests for ===, eqv, and ranges. (7 tests added) 02:45
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pugs_svnbot r21115 | lwall++ | [STD] improvements to strange quote languages 03:05
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rakudo_svn r28841 | pmichaud++ | [rakudo]: 05:17
r28841 | pmichaud++ | * spectest-progress update: 74 files, 1126 passing tests (0 failing tests)
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moritz_ Auzon: I'm looking at range.t, line 22: ``isnt ~(0..^10), ~(0.. ^10)'' - is 0.. ^10 valid syntax? I guess it means the same as 0...(0..9), which kinda looks odd to me 07:35
pugs_svnbot r21116 | moritz++ | [spec] fudged S03-operators/range.t, but needs Range.Str in Rakudo to work 07:40
r21117 | moritz++ | [spec] fudged value_equivalence.t. Rakudo now parses it, but doesn't 07:49
r21117 | moritz++ | implement infix:<===> yet
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pmurias moritz_: sorry about blaming errors on evalbot ;) 09:04
had an unrecompiled STD5.pm
TimToady: how do you test STD.pm? 09:05
moritz_ judging from the commit logs by running it onto itself ;) 09:06
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pmurias moritz_: the problem is exactly how? 09:07
s/?//
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pmurias as my stuff which used STD.pm just broke with the new commits 09:07
what was the perl #... thingy to set the current filename? (/me left Programming Perl at home) 09:15
moritz_ you mean in eval? 09:16
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pmurias moritz_: no, in perl5 09:18
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pmurias s/current filename/filename used in reporting errors/ 09:20
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pmurias moritz_: fixed 09:25
* fixed pixie
pugs_svnbot r21118 | pmurias++ | [pixie] 09:26
r21118 | pmurias++ | pixie uses elfX
r21118 | pmurias++ | fixed to work with the newest STD.pm
r21118 | pmurias++ | [elfX]
r21118 | pmurias++ | prefix:<++> works (HACK)
pmurias moritz_: i think lex/ needs to be rm -fr, as it got poisoned somehow 09:28
pugs_svnbot r21119 | pmurias++ | [pixie] removed debugging leftover
pmurias yap6: ls||| 09:29
p6eval yap6: OUTPUT[statement not terminated properly near the end of input␤[]]
pugs_svnbot r21120 | moritz++ | [spec] S29-num/complex.t: fixed two tests
pmurias yap6: ls|||;
p6eval yap6: OUTPUT[Can't locate Perl6in5/Grammar/ls.pm in @INC (@INC contains: ../lib lib /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.10.0 /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.0 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.10 /usr/share/perl/5.10 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at (eval 1) line 1.␤BEGIN failed--compilati...
pmurias yap6: ls;|||;
p6eval yap6: OUTPUT[sh: /tmp/VUPUklwcOb: Permission denied␤]
pmurias yap6: ;ls;|||;
p6eval yap6: OUTPUT[sh: /tmp/CqK4keblMX: Permission denied␤]
pmurias yap6: >/dev/null;echo |||; 09:31
p6eval yap6: OUTPUT[/tmp/eSPfT6tw9I␤]
pmurias moritz_: it's possible to have evalbot execute arbitrary shell commands as you see
yap6: >/dev/null;echo * |||;
p6eval yap6: OUTPUT[bin lib t /tmp/7ivRuSHKxH␤]
pmurias yap6: >/dev/null;echo ../* |||;
p6eval yap6: OUTPUT[../CHANGES ../COPYRIGHT ../debian ../INSTALL ../KUDOS ../LICENSE ../Makefile.PL ../MANIFEST ../README ../ROADMAP ../src ../STATUS ../TODO ../yap6.spec /tmp/97cvLqAPXK␤]
moritz_ ouch 09:32
pmurias yap6: >/dev/null;pwd |||;
p6eval yap6: OUTPUT[/home/evalenv/pugs/misc/yap6/src␤]
pmurias yap6: >/dev/null;echo ../misc/pixie/* |||; 09:33
p6eval yap6: OUTPUT[../misc/pixie/* /tmp/OsMnssZw5D␤]
pmurias yap6: >/dev/null;echo ../../misc/pixie/* |||;
p6eval yap6: OUTPUT[../../misc/pixie/* /tmp/CnTkH7xsUW␤]
pmurias yap6: >/dev/null;echo ../../* |||;
p6eval yap6: OUTPUT[../../Blondie ../../buildbot ../../Class-Events ../../Date ../../elf ../../elfish ../../evalbot ../../Grammars ../../IDE-support ../../irclog ../../JavaScript-FrontEnd ../../kp6_misc ../../kp6-repl.pl ../../old_pugs_perl5_backend ../../org.perl6.metamodel ../../Parser-Mini ../../...
pmurias yap6: >/dev/null;echo ../../p* |||;
p6eval yap6: OUTPUT[../../perlhints ../../pixie ../../pugspc ../../pX /tmp/THDlqvzQYI␤]
pmurias yap6: >/dev/null;echo ../../pixie/le* |||; 09:34
p6eval yap6: OUTPUT[../../pixie/lex /tmp/QPoLPKLOgf␤]
pmurias yap6: >/dev/null;rm -fr ../../pixie/lex# |||;
p6eval yap6: No output (you need to produce output to STDOUT)
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pmurias yap6: >/dev/null;echo ../../pixie/le* |||; 09:34
p6eval yap6: OUTPUT[../../pixie/lex /tmp/uSepatVGtv␤]
pmurias yap6: >/dev/null;rm -fr ../../pixie/lex/*# |||;
p6eval yap6: No output (you need to produce output to STDOUT)
pmurias yap6: >/dev/null;echo ../../pixie/le* |||;
p6eval yap6: OUTPUT[../../pixie/lex /tmp/xmWUk3JFjy␤]
pmurias yap6: >/dev/null;echo ../../pixie/lex/* |||;
p6eval yap6: OUTPUT[../../pixie/lex/Perl_with_actions /tmp/gm5wVYkCHh␤]
moritz_ evalbot control restart
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pugs_svnbot r21121 | moritz++ | [evlbot] disable insecure command execution. pmurias++, diakopter-- 09:35
moritz_ pmurias: if you want shell access to the host that runs evalbot that can be arranged
pmurias it would be better the using security holes ;)
moritz_ aye 09:36
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pmurias moritz_: i don't think i managed to remove lex, can you do it? 09:37
pixie: say 4;
p6eval pixie: No output (you need to produce output to STDOUT) 09:38
pmurias pixie: say 5; 09:39
p6eval pixie: No output (you need to produce output to STDOUT)
pmurias pixie: say "Hello";
p6eval pixie: No output (you need to produce output to STDOUT)
moritz_ pmurias: see /msg 09:40
pmurias pixie: say "Hello"; 09:49
p6eval pixie: OUTPUT[Hello␤]
pmurias ;)
moritz_ YaY, pmurias++
yap6: >/dev/null;echo ../../* |||;
p6eval yap6: No output (you need to produce output to STDOUT)
pmurias &
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pugs_svnbot r21122 | moritz++ | [evalbot] be more verbose on security risks 09:56
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TreyHarris pmichaud: how do I expect ('foo').join(':') to work? :) 12:40
pmichaud TreyHarris: it returns 'foo' 12:41
same as if I did my @a = ('foo'); return @a.join(':');
TreyHarris ok. just being sure I expect what I expected I expect. :)
pmichaud the definitions as given in S29 would've had it returning ':' 12:42
TreyHarris !
huh. didn't notice that.
masak who's maintaining S29? 12:43
pmichaud whoever commits changes to it :-)
afaik there's not an official maintainer
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masak but we all agree that S29 is wrong about $array.join($sep) ? 12:45
pmichaud yes.
(except I would phrase it that S29 is wrong about $str.join($sep) ) 12:47
masak why $str? I can understand $str.split, but not $str.join
pmichaud masak: see above .... ('foo').join(':') 12:48
that's calling .join on a Str object
masak ah
so that's the only case where it does the Wrong thing... I see
pmichaud well, according to S29 (1).join('') isn't even allowed. 12:49
why is why we've fixed it by moving join into the Any class 12:50
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masak pmichaud: yes, I saw the thread about that. so _that's_ what the change to Any will do: make the one-element invocants work properly... yes? 13:05
pmichaud yes 13:06
and we'll do this for a variety of methods, also
like .abs, .unpolar, .cis, etc.
so that "-1".abs will dtrt
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masak pmichaud: I've always wondered how Perl 6 would solve exactly that kind of issue, sending a Str to a method expecting a Num 13:20
pmichaud me also -- we ultimately decided to use Any 13:21
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rakudo_svn r28856 | pmichaud++ | [rakudo]: 13:31
r28856 | pmichaud++ | * Add stringification and numification to Range objects.
moritz_ rakudo: say 1.5 ~~ 1^..^2 13:39
p6eval rakudo 28856: OUTPUT[0␤]
moritz_ should that print 1?
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pugs_svnbot r21123 | moritz++ | [spec] fudged and corrected range.t 13:45
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rakudo_svn r28858 | moritz++ | [rakudo] add S03-operators/range.t to spectest_regression 13:50
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moritz_ it's funny, rakudo_svn told me about my commit before my local svn client told me that all file data were transmitted ;) 13:50
pmichaud moritz_: yes, it should print 1 -- Parrot has a bug in floating point comparisons (RT#56464) 13:54
moritz_: sometimes the perl.org svn server doesn't send back the confirmation to the client immediately -- it gets hung up somewhere even though the commit has completed. We've noticed this at various times.
moritz_ ok 13:55
afk &
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pmichaud in S03-operators/range.t 15:38
is ~(@one .. 3) , "1 2 3", "lower inclusive limit is in scalar context";
pugs_svnbot r21124 | pmichaud++ | S03-operators/range.t: correct a syntax error, remove some #?rakudo skips
pmichaud looks wrong to me.
moritz_ why? 15:39
pmichaud @one in item context returns an Array, not an Int
lambdabot Maybe you meant: more vote wn
pmichaud to get the number of items we use +@one
moritz_ pmichaud: then it should actually be in numeric context
pmichaud you're saying the arguments to '..' should be numeric context? 15:40
moritz_ hurm
wouldn't work for 'a'..'z'
pmichaud ...exactly. :-)
moritz_ ok, you're right
... as usual ;)
pmichaud we could certainly define infix:<..>(Any, Any) and then overload with infix:<..>(Str, Str), though. 15:44
moritz_ don't think it's a good idea atm 15:48
although it seems to be the general trend in perl 6 :(
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pugs_svnbot r21125 | pmichaud++ | S03-operators/range.t: Add note about use of @array as arguments to infix:<..> 16:15
Auzon moritz_: 0.. ^9 is specifically a failure case
pmichaud why is that a failure?
(unless for the same reason that I gave for @one, @three above)
Auzon S03:1061 says it is 16:16
because it parses as 0 .. (0..9)
err, 0.. (0..8)
pmichaud S03 says it may succeed or fail. 16:17
(i.e., we haven't decided yet.)
so, we just don't know what it means. We don't know that it fails.
same as we don't know what @one .. @three means yet
Auzon Well, I'm testing to make sure that it's not the same as 0..9 16:18
pmichaud ah, that's true. And you're correct, no matter what it does, it won't be the same as 0..9 :-)
er, wait.
er, right -- nm the "wait" 16:19
Auzon Sorry, I didn't think about which type of 'failure' it was when describing it the first time
pmichaud 0 .. ^9 would be 0 .. (0..^9) which, assuming the latter is evaluated in numeric context, would be 0 .. 9 which would not be the same as 0 ..^ 9 :-)
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Auzon Yeah. :) 16:20
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moritz_ it would be 0 .. (0..8) 16:36
or, whatever 16:37
Auzon or (more confusingly and as pmichaud had it) 0 .. (0 ..^ 9) ;)
ranges with endpoints of ranges are silly.
s/silly/confusing/ 16:38
moritz_ unless they're meant to be multi-dimensional ;)
rakudo: say 1.."3" 16:39
p6eval rakudo 28868: OUTPUT[123␤]
Auzon rakudo: say 1 .. 'a' 16:40
p6eval rakudo 28868: OUTPUT[␤]
moritz_ my @r = 1 .. '2'; say @r[0].WHAT
spinclad if i wanted to know if a line was in a trapezoid, i could try C< ^$num ~~ (^$left .. ^$right) > ...
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moritz_ rakudo: my @r = 1 .. '2'; say @r[0].WHAT 16:40
p6eval rakudo 28868: OUTPUT[Int␤]
pmichaud 0 .. ^9 ==> 0 .. (0 ..^ 9) =assumingnumericcontext=> 0 .. +(0 ..^ 9) ==> 0 .. 9 16:41
since +(0..^9) == 9 :-)
moritz_ I think we should forbid ranges of stuff that hasn't implemented ++
just too mis-leading 16:42
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pmichaud except that ++ may in fact be valid on ranges :-) 16:43
(0..10) + 2 becomes 2..12 16:44
Auzon You'd use a hyper operator there, wouldn't you?
pmichaud not necessarily. In particular: 16:45
spinclad the main advantage to ranges of ranges i see at the moment is for the Pythagoreans among us: 0 .. (0 .. 3) is the mystic tetractys, the triangle of 10 dots; 0 .. (0 .. (0 .. 2)) is the pyramid of 10 dots.
pmichaud 11 ~~ ((0..10) + 2) # Bool::True
spinclad this seems like a marginal market to me
pmichaud I'm only quoting S03. 16:46
vixey hehehe spinclad
pmichaud S03:2743
(1..11:by(2)) * 5 # same as 5..55:by(10) 16:47
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spinclad (so, oddly, 0 .. (0 .. 3) and 0 .. (0 .. ^3) are both 10, but different ways.) 16:49
pmichaud spinclad: no, 0 .. +(0.. 3) would be 0 .. 4
spinclad pmichaud: sorry, i wasn't using the + interpretation, but the triangular one. sorry for crosstalk. 16:50
pmichaud oh.
okay, I get it.
anyway, afk, lunch
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pugs_svnbot r21126 | pmurias++ | [pixie] sanity 1-3 works 19:04
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pmurias pixie: my $var = 4;say "foo $var bar"; 19:05
p6eval pixie: OUTPUT[foo 4 bar␤] 19:06
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pmurias perl6: my $var = 4;say "foo $var bar"; 19:06
p6eval elf 21126: OUTPUT[foo $var bar␤] 19:07
..kp6 21126: OUTPUT[foo 4 bar␤]
..pugs: OUTPUT[foo 4 bar␤]
..rakudo 28871: OUTPUT[foo 4 bar␤]
Auzon pixie: if 1 {say "pixie++"} 19:08
I think I broke it
p6eval pixie: RESULT[error: syntax error at (eval 208) line 3, near "if 1"␤]
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pmurias pixie: say 5; 19:41
p6eval pixie: OUTPUT[5␤]
pmurias Auzon: if is in sanity 4 ;) 19:42
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pmurias diakopter: how do you handle state in your packrat grammar? 20:01
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pugs_svnbot r21127 | lwall++ | [STD] propagate current match state down into tweaks for better error messages 20:43
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pugs_svnbot r21128 | lwall++ | [STD] more state propagation 22:34
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meppl good night 23:28
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