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Set by moritz on 22 December 2015.
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timotimo bazzaar: i see your pull request came through to us 00:31
we should be able to upload renders from travis for pull requests so you could view the final render on doc.perl6.org somewhere 00:32
like doc-1012.perl6.org maybe?
bazzaar timotimo: oh, that's great ... been flying by the seat of my pants :), just now staring at the merge button, thinking am I supposed to push it? 00:33
timotimo well, if you're confident the pull request is good, sure
bazzaar timotimo: but am I supposed to wait for others to approve before doing so? 00:34
seatek is there any difference invoking perl6 as perl6 vs perl6-m ? 00:36
viki seatek: cat them both and see :) They're just wrapper scripts 00:38
timotimo usually you'd wait for others, yeah
seatek viki: i did notice they were the same size ;)
timotimo i see a colon with a space in front of it
was that in error?
bazzaar timotimo: ok, I'll wait 00:39
viki bazzaar: if it's just a small change you're confident with you can just commit directly. It's only for changes with large impact that folks tend to open a PR and wait for feedback.
geekosaur seatek, you could (although right now I would not) specify the default to be jvm instead of moar 00:40
if you want to enforce moarvm, use the -m one. if you don't care which then omit the suffix
timotimo generally we operate on "it's easier to ask for forgiveness than for permission"
viki Yeah, the revert feature works :P 00:41
seatek geekosaur: gotcha! thanks :) 00:42
bazzaar viki: Thanks, I will bear that in mind :) this one is a rewrite of zip and roundrobin, and because it's my first PR maybe I should wait. 00:44
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Xliff \o/ 02:00
Made it to the next stage of this freaking silly SSO process. 02:01
Xliff does a silly dance. 02:09
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kalkin- hi 02:27
How can i list all the variables in the current scope? (I'm trying out in REPL) 02:28
So when i declare my $foo = "Bar"; $::{'$foo'} should be the same var, according to docs
so i should be able to do $::.kv 02:29
to list the contents
but REPL says $ is not declared
docs.perl6.org/language/packages#Direct_lookup
MasterDuke m: my $foo = "Bar"; my \Bar = "baz"; say ::(q|$foo|); say ::($foo); 02:33
camelia rakudo-moar 58a482: OUTPUT«Bar␤baz␤»
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MasterDuke well, it should be my $foo = "Bar"; $::{'foo'} 02:36
according to the doc
m: my $foo = "Bar"; say $::{'foo'}
camelia rakudo-moar 58a482: OUTPUT«5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>␤Variable '$' is not declared␤at <tmp>:1␤------> 3my $foo = "Bar"; say 7⏏5$::{'foo'}␤»
MasterDuke bisectable6: my $foo = "Bar"; say $::{'foo'}
bisectable6 MasterDuke, On both starting points (old=2015.12 new=58a4826) the exit code is 1 and the output is identical as well
MasterDuke, Output on both points: ===SORRY!=== Error while compiling /tmp/TmRkwhWsrz␤Variable '$' is not declared␤at /tmp/TmRkwhWsrz:1␤------> my $foo = "Bar"; say <HERE>$::{'foo'}
MasterDuke m: my $foo = "Bar"; say ::{'$foo'} 02:38
camelia rakudo-moar 58a482: OUTPUT«Bar␤»
kalkin-_ thanks!
but why does ::.kv not list the var?
MasterDuke but it looks like something is wrong about $::{'foo'}, either the docs or it's a bug 02:39
m: my $foo = "Bar"; .say for ::.kv 02:40
camelia rakudo-moar 58a482: OUTPUT«$=pod␤[]␤$foo␤Bar␤!UNIT_MARKER␤(!UNIT_MARKER)␤EXPORT␤(EXPORT)␤$_␤(Any)␤$!␤Nil␤::?PACKAGE␤(GLOBAL)␤GLOBALish␤(GLOBAL)␤$¢␤Nil␤$=finish␤(Mu)␤$/␤Nil␤$?PACKAGE␤(GLOBAL)␤»
samcv trying to work on Perl6FE highlighting for atom right now, get it to recognize fancy quotes and more styles of #`{{ multiline comments 02:41
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MasterDuke m: my $foo = "Bar"; for ::.kv -> $k, $v { say "$k => $v.perl()" } 02:42
camelia rakudo-moar 58a482: OUTPUT«$=pod => $[]␤$foo => "Bar"␤!UNIT_MARKER => !UNIT_MARKER␤EXPORT => EXPORT␤$_ => Any␤$! => Nil␤::?PACKAGE => GLOBAL␤GLOBALish => GLOBAL␤$¢ => Nil␤$=finish => Mu␤$/ => Nil␤$?PACKAGE => GLOBAL␤»
MasterDuke kalkin-_: ^^^ see it there?
kalkin-_ This doesn't work in repl 02:43
MasterDuke there are known problems with the repl
kalkin-_ ahh i see
in repl is $foo missing 02:44
it's only in it if i declare it on same line
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kalkin-_ thank you guys 02:46
MasterDuke sounds similar to rt.perl.org/Public/Bug/Display.html?id=78068 02:47
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dj_goku anyone notice colabti.org searching is slow/broken/never returns? 02:54
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Xliff m: my $a = do for ^4 { $_ * 2 }; say $al 04:02
camelia rakudo-moar 58a482: OUTPUT«5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>␤Variable '$al' is not declared␤at <tmp>:1␤------> 3my $a = do for ^4 { $_ * 2 }; say 7⏏5$al␤»
Xliff m: my $a = do for ^4 { $_ * 2 }; say $a;
camelia rakudo-moar 58a482: OUTPUT«(0 2 4 6)␤»
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Xliff m: my @a = ^6; for @a:kv -> $k, $v { say "$k $v" } 04:21
camelia rakudo-moar 58a482: OUTPUT«5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>␤Variable '@a:kv' is not declared␤at <tmp>:1␤------> 3my @a = ^6; for 7⏏5@a:kv -> $k, $v { say "$k $v" }␤»
gfldex seatek: zef problem already solved: github.com/ugexe/zef/commit/4a9745...7e4039859c
Xliff m: my @a = ^6; for @a.hash:kv -> $k, $v { say "$k $v" }
camelia rakudo-moar 58a482: OUTPUT«4 5 0 1␤Too few positionals passed; expected 2 arguments but got 1␤ in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1␤␤»
Xliff Well crap. I thought you could get array index and value via :kv adverb from arrays.
m: my @a = ^6; for @a.kv -> $k, $v { say "$k $v" } 04:22
camelia rakudo-moar 58a482: OUTPUT«0 0␤1 1␤2 2␤3 3␤4 4␤5 5␤»
Xliff Oh. Not adverb. LOL!
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dj_goku what are valid block delimiters? 04:41
a code block that is.
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seatek gfldex: wow that was fast! i'm going to have to try zef eventually 04:47
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seatek core! hmm. double free or corruption? double free please! 05:14
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seatek anyone know of any known memory eating bug issues related to Callables? 05:23
In Crust... a Callable is used and passed up to the connected server from the application. 05:26
Multiple repeated calls can create some extra memory use at first, but it levels off
If you use the Crust::Builder to create "middleware" -- it temporarily assigns this Callable to a new local Callable, passing to to some constructed classes, then returning. I'm wondering if those locally created Callables might linger 05:28
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seatek if you pass an Callable to a method, and return that callable time and again, memory use goes up (in Crust here). 05:37
if you pass in a Callable to a method, then assign that Callable to a local $_app var, then return that local $_app var instead of the Callable passed in, memory usage noticably increases 05:38
(and the rate at which it climbs) 05:39
gfldex seatek: are you trying to tell us that you want to golf that? :->
seatek i don't know what that means. i just want to stomp my foot and make everything better :) 05:40
does that mean I should keep trying to isolate down what the cause is?
or that i'm trying to get someone else to fix it? 05:41
golfing it... putting it down further
gfldex a code golf is the shortest prossible program that can trigger a bug
seatek i need a memory profiling tool :)
ah ok
ugh
it's hard extracting that out from something like Crust
I don't even like Callables 05:42
they're nothing but trouble anyway 05:43
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gfldex You could file a ticket on your own module and come back to it later. Very well possible that the bug is already known. 05:43
seatek i'll go a little further into the chaos. or i'll forget what i did and didn't do 05:44
i should file the bug in Crust::Builder cuz that's where it comes up, even using none of the middleware modules (like mine) 05:46
but i'm betting it's a Callable in general memory issue relating to scopes of some kind... freeing stuff 05:47
$20
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seatek what the heck is the MONKEY-SEE-NO-EVAL - not in modules listing, not in --doc 05:57
ah on the site 05:58
gfldex docs.perl6.org/language/pragmas
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dj_goku anyone build the perl6/doc html on a mac and is on sierra? 06:11
gfldex dj_goku: doubt it will work. There are still a few things that are case sensitive 06:12
dj_goku gfldex: haha ok, well I guess I am done for the night. 06:13
I was going to spin up a ubuntu system and try it thee.
s/thee/there/
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Xliff m: my $a = do for ((1, 'a'), (2, 'b'), (3, 'c')) -> $c { $_.flat }; dd $a; 06:45
camelia rakudo-moar 58a482: OUTPUT«List $a = $((Any,).Seq, (Any,).Seq, (Any,).Seq)␤»
Xliff m: my $a = do for ((1, 'a'), (2, 'b'), (3, 'c')) -> $c { $c.flat }; dd $a;
camelia rakudo-moar 58a482: OUTPUT«List $a = $((1, "a").Seq, (2, "b").Seq, (3, "c").Seq)␤»
Xliff m: my $a = { do for ((1, 'a'), (2, 'b'), (3, 'c')) -> $c { $c.flat } }; dd $a;
camelia rakudo-moar 58a482: OUTPUT«Block $a = -> ;; $_? is raw { #`(Block|65663120) ... }␤»
Xliff Damn.
seatek gfldex: where's a good place to paste code into for viewing here?
Xliff fpaste 06:46
gfldex gist.github.com/
Xliff fpaste.scsys.co.uk or gist.github.com
gfldex++ was faster on the gist.
m: my $a = { do for ( 1 => 'a', 2 => 'b', 3 => 'c') -> $c { $_ } }; dd $a; 06:47
camelia rakudo-moar 58a482: OUTPUT«Block $a = -> ;; $_? is raw { #`(Block|64771344) ... }␤»
gfldex there is gist-paste to paste and update directly from the shell, provided by packages.debian.org/jessie/gist
seatek gist.github.com/adaptiveoptics/3df...y-wrappers
Xliff m: my $a = { do for ( 1 => 'a', 2 => 'b', 3 => 'c') -> $c { $c } }; dd $a;
camelia rakudo-moar 58a482: OUTPUT«Block $a = -> ;; $_? is raw { #`(Block|78349744) ... }␤»
Xliff Hrrm.... 06:48
seatek That's basically what Crust with middlewear (from Builder) is doing
and it grows and grows in memory use. and i think it may be a bug in the way callables are being passed around more than callables themselves 06:49
maybe not though - they're all self-contained 06:50
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seatek even when you put a $c=C.new in there to clear it out each time, memory grows and grows 06:53
gfldex seatek: if you remove line 8 and 9, does it still blow up?
seatek yup 06:54
that was my first thought before too ;)
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gfldex could be RT#77644 06:55
synopsebot6 Link: rt.perl.org/rt3//Public/Bug/Displa...l?id=77644
seatek i'll try it without evals 06:56
could i just substitue a code ref for that and it's still Callable? 06:57
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Xliff m: @a = ^4; @b = ^3; for @a, @b { .say } 06:59
camelia rakudo-moar 58a482: OUTPUT«5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>␤Variable '@a' is not declared␤at <tmp>:1␤------> 3<BOL>7⏏5@a = ^4; @b = ^3; for @a, @b { .say }␤»
Xliff m: my @a = ^4; my @b = ^3; for @a, @b { .say }
camelia rakudo-moar 58a482: OUTPUT«[0 1 2 3]␤[0 1 2]␤»
Xliff m: my @a = ^4; my @b = ^3; for |(@a, @b) { .say } 07:00
camelia rakudo-moar 58a482: OUTPUT«[0 1 2 3]␤[0 1 2]␤»
Xliff m: my @a = ^4; my @b = ^3; for |(@a, @b).flat { .say }
camelia rakudo-moar 58a482: OUTPUT«0␤1␤2␤3␤0␤1␤2␤»
seatek gfldex: yes that's exactly the problem -- the EVAL. dammit 07:01
who fixes that?
ha! Nobody is the owner :)
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seatek clear back when Parrot was the thing 07:02
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seatek wait -- i don't think it gets eval'ed each loop in Crust 07:07
a flaw in my model
curses
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gfldex perl6 -e 'loop { say ((slurp "/proc/$*PID/stat").lines[0].split: " ")[22]; EVAL q[]; }' 07:08
problem cleary still persists
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gfldex actually it stops growing after ~30sec 07:11
seatek: and that's why we golf :) 07:12
seatek i see :) 07:14
yeah i noticed earlier that it tended to level off a bit
masak .oO( when the bug hits your eye / like a big pizza pie / that's a-golf-e ) 07:15
seatek so who fixes it? can you assign it to masak?
masak doubtful
seatek he'll fix it. he can fix anything :) 07:16
masak I think you might be thinking of some other masak
seatek hehe
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seatek alright, if it can't be fixed I'll just have to hard-code my application into Crust. 07:18
brrt good morning #perl6
RabidGravy marning!
to be honest that's the way I use Crust anyway 07:19
seatek seriously? love it 07:21
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RabidGravy infact I tend to implement the actions as "class Foo does Callable { method CALL-ME(%env) { } }" and put the action in the CALL-ME 07:22
seatek jots things down 07:23
RabidGravy I think there is an example of this kind of usage in Lumberjack::Application 07:24
anyway off to the grind-stone
gfldex seatek: it would not hurt if you would write your adventures down. We got the question, what web framework to use, quite often. 07:27
seatek I gave up on that question -- that's why I'm messing so deeply with Crust ;) 07:28
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seatek I really don't like web frameworks. I spend more time learning them than I do making stuff work myself 07:29
that's why i was so happy to see sessions with Crust
just your basic stuff.
i'm wanting to incorporate grammars into what i'm doing with this one. can't imagine anything better for an api 07:33
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samcv i still need to lead grammars 08:10
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samcv they look like they could be fun though 08:12
moritz they aren't really fun, but less painful than other approaches to parsing, IMHO 08:13
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samcv that's fun enough for me :) 08:13
i guess fun is relative
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timotimo hmm. do we want to redirect people from perl6.org to perl6.org? 12:22
moritz timotimo: if you want that, please grep the ecosystem for tests that try to fetch from HTTP URLs from perl6.org 12:23
timotimo oh, that's a very good point indeed
jonadab Redirecting onto https really only makes sense for sites that most users are going to log into with a username and password or the like, and even then really only if it's the kind of login where it _matters_ for something other than leaving blog comments. 12:25
IMO.
timotimo i just saw PoisonTap, which injects backdoors into pretty much everything the user's browser might ever request
moritz or hotstops that inject ads, and then some of these ads contain malware 12:28
AlexDaniel timotimo: generally, yes 12:29
jonadab timotimo: That explains why you are thinking about this now; but I don't see how it's really an argument in favor of redirecting all site traffic to https.
AlexDaniel jonadab: and you are wrong, sir
jonadab (It _might_, _arguably_, be an argument in favor of web browsers trying https first in preference to http when the user inputs a URL without a protocol. Possibly.) 12:30
moritz jonadab: people then have the HTTPS URL in their browser history or bookmarks, and that's where they will go in a hostile environment
jonadab (Not that most users ever input URLs these days, except into search engine boxes.)
moritz well, and that's the next argument in favor 12:31
arnsholt If we want to move perl6.org to HTTPS, but also make it possible to download some things over HTTP for testing, maybe we could have a dedicated endpoint/virtual host that doesn't redirect to HTTPS and redirect everything else?
moritz if there's a redirect to HTTPS, that's where the search engines will send you
arnsholt: we can make an insecure.perl6.org or so
or nohttps.perl6.org
arnsholt Yeah
jonadab moritz: There are more direct ways to influence where the search engines send users. 12:32
(Granted, they aren't entirely foolproof.)
moritz jonadab: somehow the canoncial URL meta tags never really worked for me
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moritz www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/5c9...e/d9ur4a2/ # the let's encrypt team's take on whethere you should use HTTPS everywhere 12:35
arnsholt Yeah, on the whole I think it's the right direction to move in 12:36
It introduces an additional OpenSSL dependency (more or less de facto) on many things, which isn't great, and introduces a bootstrapping problem of getting HTTPS working when you don't already have working HTTPS 12:38
But the gains are worth it I think
AlexDani` github.com/supernovus/perl6-http-c...1-get.t#L8
github.com/supernovus/perl6-http-c...post.t#L11
github.com/supernovus/perl6-http-c...part.t#L11 12:39
these are the only tests you have to fix I think (I'm not sure if it works with https or not)
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arnsholt I'd be surprised if it works over HTTPS 12:39
AFAIK we don't have any bindings to an SSL library, much less a pure Perl 6 SSL suite 12:40
moritz the client that sergot++ worked on has openssl integration 12:41
AlexDaniel these are the only tests I see in our ecosystem that use perl6.org domain in this way 12:42
arnsholt moritz: Oh, neat!
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dalek c: f73aca6 | bazzaar++ | doc/Type/List.pod6:
Attempt to improve the documentation of routines zip, and roundrobin.
 12:44
c: 3ca220b | (Zoffix Znet)++ | doc/Type/List.pod6:
Merge pull request #1012 from bazzaar/roundrobin-edits

Improve the documentation of routines zip, and roundrobin.
synopsebot6 Link: doc.perl6.org/type/List
arnsholt Speaking of something completely different: Have any of you experimented with proportional fonts for code? 12:47
In the SmallTalk environment at $dayjob, there's no highlighting and proportional fonts by default, and I'm finding it to be pretty nice actually 12:48
AlexDaniel arnsholt: um… that's some interesting point of view 13:02
arnsholt: so what's nice about it? 13:03
timotimo maybe it's pleasant to the eye?
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AlexDaniel but the question about fonts is a good one 13:14
arnsholt At least for reading normal text, I'm pretty sure proportional fonts score better on legibility than fixed-with
AlexDaniel are there any studies about this?
arnsholt I think so
There're studies comparing serif and sans-serif at least
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arnsholt But that's not my area of expertise 13:15
Only annoying thing with no highlighting is that comments (especially with code inside) are a bit too prominent
timotimo "where the heck is the code" 13:16
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pmurias arnsholt: aren't SmallTalk environments a hate it or love it kind of thing? 13:32
timotimo stumbled over subresource integrity, but doesn't really think it applies for perl6.org or something in that space 13:40
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nine just booked his flight for LPW2016 14:03
DrForr Yay! I'm coming in Friday morning, returning Monday morning. 14:04
tadzik I'm coming wednesday night, leaving sunday night 14:05
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nine Sooo...on to finding a hotel 14:05
256 Euros for 2 nights? In London? With 4 stars? I don't trust this 14:09
timotimo they'll probably harvest one of your kidneys
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DrForr I gave up and found a place in Croydon; it's a little outside of London proper but all I could find in town was those damn GBP60/night walkups that are just above a hostel. 14:11
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nine Bloomsbury Palace Hotel it is. It cannot be any worse than the last one I picked. That's physically impossible, so I may as well give it a try ;) 14:19
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tadzik nine: hmmm, not entirely unreasonable I think 14:20
I pay ~480 for 3 nights, 2 people
nine Now all I need to do is get really started working on my talk. Got swamped with work lately which kicked me really out of my Perl 6 habits. 14:21
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iH2O z... 14:34
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viki ? 14:36
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arnsholt pmurias: Yeah, I suspect ST is love it or hate it. But I'm digging it 15:02
At work we're stuck with a pretty old commercial ST, but apart from that it's pretty neat
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titsuki bisect: my $a = [email@hidden.address] my $b = / <:L>+\.<:L>+\@<:L+:N>+\.<:L>+ /; say $/ if $a ~~ $b; 15:45
bisectable6 titsuki, On both starting points (old=2015.12 new=85c7072) the exit code is 0 and the output is identical as well
titsuki, Output on both points: ｢john.doe@perl6.org｣
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titsuki bisect: old=2016.10 my $a = [email@hidden.address] my $b = / <:L>+\.<:L>+\@<:L+:N>+\.<:L>+ /; say $/ if $a ~~ $b; 15:47
bisectable6 titsuki, Bisecting by output (old=2016.10 new=85c7072) because on both starting points the exit code is 0
FROGGS o/
bisectable6 titsuki, bisect log: gist.github.com/18df2dd79a0a2e1e8f...6ca12fa7ab
titsuki, (2016-10-27) github.com/rakudo/rakudo/commit/5a...925c544ea4
titsuki hi 15:48
AlexDaniel NeuralAnomaly: when? 15:50
NeuralAnomaly: status
NeuralAnomaly AlexDaniel, [✘] Next release will be in 1 day and 13 hours. Since last release, there are 32 new still-open tickets (0 unreviewed and 0 blockers) and 12 unreviewed commits. See perl6.fail/release/stats for details
AlexDaniel titsuki: yeah, seems like it will be solved in the next release. Still an “oops” :) 15:51
committable6: 6c my $a = [email@hidden.address] my $b = / <:L>+\.<:L>+\@<:L+:N>+\.<:L>+ /; say $/ if $a ~~ $b; 15:52
committable6 AlexDaniel, ¦«2015.12,2016.02,2016.03,2016.04,2016.05,2016.06,2016.07.1,2016.08.1,2016.09,HEAD»: ｢john.doe@perl6.org｣␤¦«2016.10»: Nil
AlexDaniel there was no ticket for that? 15:53
meaning that there are still no tests?
titsuki AlexDaniel: I'm not sure, but I can't find the test code for that bug. 15:55
AlexDaniel titsuki: perhaps you can contribute some?
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titsuki AlexDaniel: Should I RT this bug or write some test cases ? 15:58
viki Isn't it fixed already? 15:59
AlexDaniel titsuki: it is fixed already, so I don't think a ticket is required
viki committable6: 2016.10 my $a = [email@hidden.address] my $b = / <:L>+\.<:L>+\@<:L+:N>+\.<:L>+ /; say $/ if $a ~~ /<$b>/; 16:00
committable6 viki, ¦«2016.10»: ｢john.doe@perl6.org｣
viki I recall this bug and lizmat fixing it.
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viki a glance through commits doesn't show tests 16:05
viki adds
just in case
dalek c: c40ccb5 | coke++ | doc/Type/List.pod6:
remove trailing whitespace
 16:06
synopsebot6 Link: doc.perl6.org/type/List
viki s: &infix:<~~>, \($, $) 16:07
SourceBaby viki, Sauce is at github.com/rakudo/rakudo/blob/85c7...Mu.pm#L818
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titsuki Isn't it the test case for this bug ? github.com/perl6/roast/commit/40b8...24a1521566 16:08
viki Ah, OK. That gives me the commit that fixed it :) github.com/rakudo/rakudo/commit/5ac593e 16:09
titsuki: not really, basically the fix made it so you get truthy values instead of Bool 16:10
So the above (old) tests needed an adjustment
The issue itself is regex stored in a variable used with a smartmatch and so the bug assumed that meant the ~~ was chained and so it returned just a Bool 16:11
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[Coke] jnthn: does your file finder module deal with this corner case: stackoverflow.com/questions/406492...-directory (last comment) 16:19
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titsuki m: ("a" ~~ /a/ ~~ /abc/).say 16:27
camelia rakudo-moar 85c707: OUTPUT«Nil␤»
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titsuki viki: thanks for your explanation. I understand that. 16:28
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viki Tests for the bug have been added in github.com/perl6/roast/commit/839566cfd6 16:33
AlexDaniel viki++ 16:41
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titsuki viki: thx. I could solve this issue: github.com/hankache/perl6intro/issues/118 17:07
viki sweet
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[Coke] google alert gave me: infogalactic.com/info/Perl_6 ... TIL someone is just copying wikipedia... 17:35
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viki Except they seem to be copying it as it were a year ago: "Stable release Rakudo Star / November 28, 2015" 17:38
geekosaur that's sadly common 17:42
(copying old revs of wikipedia, that is. usually weaponized with adware or malware)
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jnthn [Coke]: D'oh, I missed the negation case. 17:49
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jnthn [Coke]: Left myself a reminder at github.com/jnthn/p6-file-ignore/issues/1 :) 17:50
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viki What is the benefit in writing 2*$fract >= 1 rather than $fract >= .5 when deciding which way to round? 18:44
.oO( or is there any... )
 18:46
mst possibly the 2* approach is cargo-cultish floating point bug avoidance?
viki hm. OK, I'll leave it in then
DrForr One's a shift and int comparison, the other is a floating-point comparison.
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El_Che why: $15,563 already? www.kickstarter.com/projects/14228...ing-perl-6 18:53
1 10k pledge
DrForr Liz & Wendy, I'm pretty sure. 18:54
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viki I was thinking the same :) 18:54
El_Che it sounds like them, indeed :)
viki lizmat++ wolfy++
El_Che don't guilt-shame them in case it's not them :)
I was having a look which pledge to take, but 10k is not happening :) 18:55
[Coke] oh, there was a 10K pledge? that explains how it jumped 10K between me leaving work and getting home yesterday! :)
El_Che well, the good thing about Trump ois that the dollar is cheaper now :) 18:57
DrForr And thanks to Brexit so's the pound :) 18:58
El_Che well, it will be handy when someone in the uk kickstarts a perl 6 book
viki So what you're saying the value of my monopoly Canukistan dollars goes us by as much as the rest of the world is getting trashed with bad decisions? 18:59
El_Che about that? is Timtowdy or someone else working on the Camel book succesor?
viki Sweet.
Damian promised a book "in a year" from last April. 19:00
...but maybe he just got scared with the audience of 30 people starting at him, damanding a book :P
El_Che haha
just throw them some bones and run away
(the pledges are not cumulative, right? If you go for the t-shirt you won't get the ebook, I guess) 19:02
(I mean the early version pdf's)
DrForr El_Che: Read the comments.
El_Che ah cool
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kalkin-_ Why in Perl6 if I'm using pipes i.e @array ==> sort() ==> unique() …, do i have to write ()? 19:13
Why can't i just do @array ==> sort ==> unique …
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viki They're called feeds. 19:15
The … has very low precedence 19:16
(why? dunno)
kalkin-_ viki: ahh feeds, thanks
viki The Ancients who designed the language may know why it's so low.
kalkin-_ Viki … was just a replacement for etc, I'm asking about the reasoning behind the () 19:17
s/etc/ect/
viki Oh around sort() and unique() and stuff
lizmat El_Che: we're not guilt shamed that easily :-)
viki m: sort
camelia rakudo-moar 7f3224: OUTPUT«5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>␤Calling sort() will never work with any of these multi signatures:␤ (@values) ␤ ($cmp, + is raw)␤at <tmp>:1␤------> 3<BOL>7⏏5sort␤»
viki kalkin-_: possibly to disambiguate whether you want the feed stuff to be used as an argument to the subs? 19:18
viki knows nothing about feeds :(
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kalkin-_ m: 3..1 ===> sort() 19:19
camelia rakudo-moar 7f3224: OUTPUT«5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>␤Preceding context expects a term, but found infix > instead␤at <tmp>:1␤------> 033..1 ===>7⏏5 sort()␤»
kalkin-_ m: (3...1) ===> sort()
camelia rakudo-moar 7f3224: OUTPUT«5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>␤Preceding context expects a term, but found infix > instead␤at <tmp>:1␤------> 3(3...1) ===>7⏏5 sort()␤»
viki m: 3..1 ==> sort()
camelia ( no output )
viki m: say 3..1 ==> sort()
camelia rakudo-moar 7f3224: OUTPUT«3..1␤»
viki m: say 3..1 ==> sort
camelia rakudo-moar 7f3224: OUTPUT«3..1␤»
psch m: say (unique() <== sort() <== [1,1,3,2,5,2,1,6]) 19:20
camelia rakudo-moar 7f3224: OUTPUT«(1 2 3 5 6)␤»
kalkin-_ argle one = to many
ahh i understand I didn't know that i can call a method like this: sort 1...3 19:21
I always thought I need to use sort: 1...3
psch kalkin-_: that's because you can't. that 'sort' isn't a method
m: say &sort eqv Any.^can('sort')
camelia rakudo-moar 7f3224: OUTPUT«False␤»
psch m: say &sort; say Any.^can('sort')
camelia rakudo-moar 7f3224: OUTPUT«sub sort (| is raw) { #`(Sub|69319472) ... }␤(Method+{<anon|73532432>}.new)␤»
kalkin-_ When do I want to use ':' after a function? 19:22
viki kalkin-_: it's just a sub. Perl 6 is a multiparadigm language :)
kalkin-_ I.e what is the difference between sort 1..3 and sort_:_ 1...3?
psch anyway, the feed operators have the second lowest precedence, just above ; (i.e. statement end) and { } (i.e. block curlies) 19:23
viki One works and another doesn't?
m: say sort: 1...3
camelia rakudo-moar 7f3224: OUTPUT«5===SORRY!5===␤Calling sort() will never work with any of these multi signatures:␤ (@values) ␤ ($cmp, + is raw)␤at <tmp>:1␤------> 3say 7⏏5sort: 1...3␤Variable '&infix:<:>' is not declared␤at <tmp>:1␤------> 3say sort7⏏…»
viki m: say sort 1..3:
camelia rakudo-moar 7f3224: OUTPUT«(1 2 3)␤»
viki ^ in that case it's a method call
psch uh wow, what about that &infix:<:> there..?
oh, right, colon in the wrong spot does that 19:24
kalkin-_ viki: ohh, hmm i think i misunderstood before
[Coke] m: <1 3 2> ==> sort() ==> say
camelia rakudo-moar 7f3224: OUTPUT«5===SORRY!5===␤Argument to "say" seems to be malformed␤at <tmp>:1␤------> 3<1 3 2> ==> sort() ==> say7⏏5<EOL>␤Other potential difficulties:␤ Unsupported use of bare "say"; in Perl 6 please use .say if you meant $_, or use an explicit…»
kalkin-_ psch: thanks
[Coke] m: <1 3 2> ==> sort() ==> say()
camelia rakudo-moar 7f3224: OUTPUT«(1 2 3)␤»
[Coke] m: <1 3 2> ==> { sort } ==> { say }
viki kalkin-_: to be fair, you're not the first one I see write colons after a sub. Maybe it worked some time in the past?>
camelia rakudo-moar 7f3224: OUTPUT«5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>␤Unsupported use of bare "say"; in Perl 6 please use .say if you meant $_, or use an explicit invocant or argument, or use &say to refer to the function as a noun␤at <tmp>:1␤------> 3<1 3 2> ==> { sort }…»
[Coke] m: <1 3 2> ==> { sort } ==> { .say }
camelia rakudo-moar 7f3224: OUTPUT«5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>␤Sorry, do not know how to handle this case of a feed operator yet.␤at <tmp>:1␤------> 3<1 3 2> ==> { sort } ==> { .say }7⏏5<EOL>␤ expecting any of:␤ postfix␤»
psch m: <1 3 2> ==> &sort # is this supposed to work or is the error just an artifact? 19:25
camelia rakudo-moar 7f3224: OUTPUT«5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>␤Sorry, do not know how to handle this case of a feed operator yet.␤at <tmp>:1␤------> 3o work or is the error just an artifact?7⏏5<EOL>␤»
kalkin-_ m: sort: 1...3
camelia ( no output )
kalkin-_ m: say sort: 1...3
camelia rakudo-moar 7f3224: OUTPUT«5===SORRY!5===␤Calling sort() will never work with any of these multi signatures:␤ (@values) ␤ ($cmp, + is raw)␤at <tmp>:1␤------> 3say 7⏏5sort: 1...3␤Variable '&infix:<:>' is not declared␤at <tmp>:1␤------> 3say sort7⏏…»
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kalkin-_ m: sort: 1...3 # this works in repl 19:26
camelia ( no output )
viki m: dd (sort: 1...3)
camelia rakudo-moar 7f3224: OUTPUT«(1, 2, 3).Seq␤»
psch m: sort: 1..3; say sort.WHAT
camelia rakudo-moar 7f3224: OUTPUT«WARNINGS for <tmp>:␤Useless use of ".." in expression "1..3" in sink context (line 1)␤(Label)␤»
psch m: quietly sort: 1..3; say sort.WHAT # for clarity
camelia rakudo-moar 7f3224: OUTPUT«(Label)␤»
kalkin-_ m: sort 1...3; say sort.WHAT
camelia rakudo-moar 7f3224: OUTPUT«5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>␤Calling sort() will never work with any of these multi signatures:␤ (@values) ␤ ($cmp, + is raw)␤at <tmp>:1␤------> 3sort 1...3; say 7⏏5sort.WHAT␤»
viki ahh
psch++
kalkin-_ m: sort: 1...3; say sort.WHAT 19:27
camelia rakudo-moar 7f3224: OUTPUT«(Label)␤»
psch m: sort: 1..3; redo sort unless $++
camelia rakudo-moar 7f3224: OUTPUT«WARNINGS for <tmp>:␤Useless use of ".." in expression "1..3" in sink context (line 1)␤labeled redo without loop construct␤ in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1␤␤»
psch :P
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psch kalkin-_: try 'sort: 3,2,1' in the repl instead maybe? :) 19:27
kalkin-_ I have no idea where i picked up the colons form
FROGGS huh, someone broke Label.gist it seems 19:28
psch kalkin-_: probably misplaced intuition. "sort: 1,2,3" seems more natural, but we demand the invocant marker *after* the invocant, not before
kalkin-_ psch: sort: 3,2,1 & sort 3...1 works in repl
psch kalkin-_: does it print 3,2,1? :)
kalkin-_ aehm
the second one is sort_:_ 3...1
psch right, but it doesn't sort 19:29
is my point
i don't recall if your repl actually prints non-printy stuff though...
kalkin-_ ahh
viki m: sort: 1...3; say sort
camelia rakudo-moar 7f3224: OUTPUT«Cannot find method 'Stringy': no method cache and no .^find_method␤ in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1␤␤»
kalkin-_ I haven't noticed that it doesn't sort
viki m: sort: 1...3; say sort.gist
camelia rakudo-moar 7f3224: OUTPUT«Cannot find method 'Stringy': no method cache and no .^find_method␤ in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1␤␤»
dalek osystem: ebc1542 | (Paweł Szulc)++ | META.list:
Added Statistics::LinearRegression

See github.com/hipek8/p6-Statistics-Li...Regression
osystem: e31bda4 | RabidGravy++ | META.list:
Merge pull request #266 from hipek8/master

Added Statistics::LinearRegression
psch point is, [ \w+ ':' .+ ] gets parsed as a Label followed by a statement
viki bisect: sort: 1...3; say sort.gist 19:30
bisectable6 viki, Bisecting by exit code (old=2015.12 new=7f32243). Old exit code: 0
psch err, plus anchors :S
FROGGS viki: multi method gist(Label:D:) {
bisectable6 viki, bisect log: gist.github.com/f53d92a6264535b1bd...7f86bcf1c7
viki, (2016-07-19) github.com/rakudo/rakudo/commit/34...c39db42ab8
psch so [ ^ \w+ ':' .+ ;? $] # or something like that
AlexDaniel that being said:
m: say sort 1..3:
camelia rakudo-moar 7f3224: OUTPUT«(1 2 3)␤»
FROGGS :S
psch m: say unique sort 3,1,1,5,2,5: : 19:31
camelia rakudo-moar 7f3224: OUTPUT«(1 2 3 5)␤»
AlexDaniel which should not be that surprising
kalkin-_ thanks for the explanation. Any hints where i can read up on labels?
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psch docs.perl6.org/type/Label probably? 19:31
AlexDaniel psch: although I am surprised that you can nest it like that…
psch AlexDaniel: it gets wonky though 19:32
m: say unique sort 3,1,1,5,2,5: : : #
camelia rakudo-moar 7f3224: OUTPUT«5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>␤Confused␤at <tmp>:1␤------> 3say unique sort 3,1,1,5,2,5: : :7⏏5 #␤ expecting any of:␤ colon pair␤»
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psch AlexDaniel: although that's probably &say being somewhat special :) 19:32
AlexDaniel m: say 25 :
camelia rakudo-moar 7f3224: OUTPUT«25␤»
AlexDaniel not really?
m: say 25,40 :
camelia rakudo-moar 7f3224: OUTPUT«5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>␤Confused␤at <tmp>:1␤------> 3say 25,40 :7⏏5<EOL>␤ expecting any of:␤ colon pair␤»
AlexDaniel m: say (25,40) :
camelia rakudo-moar 7f3224: OUTPUT«5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>␤Confused␤at <tmp>:1␤------> 3say (25,40) :7⏏5<EOL>␤ expecting any of:␤ colon pair␤»
FROGGS viki: let me try to fix it 19:33
AlexDaniel m: say sort (25,40) :
camelia rakudo-moar 7f3224: OUTPUT«(25 40)␤»
psch m: sort unique (2, 12, 1, 2): :
camelia rakudo-moar 7f3224: OUTPUT«5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>␤Confused␤at <tmp>:1␤------> 3sort unique (2, 12, 1, 2): :7⏏5<EOL>␤ expecting any of:␤ colon pair␤»
psch hm, maybe just the outer most doesn't parse
although i can't imagine why
might be we commit to a sub call somewhere along the way..? dunno, haven't looked at the grammar in a few weeks :/ 19:34
bisect: sort unique (2, 12, 1, 2): :
bisectable6 psch, On both starting points (old=2015.12 new=7f32243) the exit code is 1 and the output is identical as well
psch, Output on both points: ===SORRY!=== Error while compiling /tmp/r2wO3Ni78N␤Confused␤at /tmp/r2wO3Ni78N:1␤------> sort unique (2, 12, 1, 2): :<HERE> ␤ expecting any of:␤ colon pair
psch well, apparently it's been like that for a while
AlexDaniel commit: all sort unique (2, 12, 1, 2): :
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psch m: $a = sort unique (2, 12, 1, 2): : 19:35
camelia rakudo-moar 7f3224: OUTPUT«5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>␤Variable '$a' is not declared␤at <tmp>:1␤------> 3<BOL>7⏏5$a = sort unique (2, 12, 1, 2): :␤»
psch m: my $a = sort unique (2, 12, 1, 2): :
camelia rakudo-moar 7f3224: OUTPUT«5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>␤Confused␤at <tmp>:1␤------> 3my $a = sort unique (2, 12, 1, 2): :7⏏5<EOL>␤ expecting any of:␤ colon pair␤»
committable6 AlexDaniel, gist.github.com/f110e1039926477f4c...59c4f694ae
psch aha, 2015.03 and earlier explicitly forbade it
then came the confusion
honestly, it seems weird to forbid it there 19:36
i don't see the difference between allowing nesting inside and argument list and allowing nesting up to the statement level
so either nested invocant markers should be all the way gone or they should be fine up to statement level
FROGGS $ perl6 -e 'say: say(say)'
Label<say>(at -e:1, '⏏say: say(say)')
psch and considering a single invocant marker on statement level is fine, it should probably be fine?
FROGGS++
kalkin-_ Why can I do say 1…3 but not sort 1…3 ? 19:38
has sort some kind of special precedence?
viki kalkin-_: you can do both
m: say sort 1…3
camelia rakudo-moar 7f3224: OUTPUT«(1 2 3)␤»
viki m: say sort 3…1
camelia rakudo-moar 7f3224: OUTPUT«(1 2 3)␤»
kalkin-_ m: sort 1…3 19:39
camelia ( no output )
kalkin-_ Repl throws me an error on that
Error while compliing: Two terms in a row
psch kalkin-_: is your sort maybe still a Label?
viki kalkin-_: what sort of error?
kalkin-_ psch: good point
psch m: sort: 1; sort 1..3
camelia rakudo-moar 7f3224: OUTPUT«5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>␤Two terms in a row␤at <tmp>:1␤------> 3sort: 1; sort7⏏5 1..3␤ expecting any of:␤ infix␤ infix stopper␤ statement end␤ statement modifier␤ statement…»
kalkin-_ yes it was still a label, thank you psch
psch m: X: 1; X::AdHoc.new.throw: msg => "phooey" # /o\ 19:40
camelia rakudo-moar 7f3224: OUTPUT«WARNINGS for <tmp>:␤Useless use of constant integer 1 in sink context (line 1)␤Could not find symbol '&AdHoc'␤ in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1␤␤Actually thrown at:␤ in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1␤␤»
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psch we probably still have a ticket about 'class X' sitting somewhere... 19:41
m: sub f(Int(Cool) $x) {$x}; Int: quietly 1; f 2.0 19:42
camelia rakudo-moar 7f3224: OUTPUT«===SORRY!===␤P6opaque: get_boxed_ref could not unbox for the representation '20' of type Label␤»
psch snrk
AlexDaniel m: say (sort (2, 12, 1, 2):):
camelia rakudo-moar 7f3224: OUTPUT«5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>␤Confused␤at <tmp>:1␤------> 3say (sort (2, 12, 1, 2):):7⏏5<EOL>␤ expecting any of:␤ colon pair␤»
AlexDaniel ah wait 19:44
m: say sort unique (2…3…1): : 19:45
camelia rakudo-moar 7f3224: OUTPUT«(1 2 3)␤»
AlexDaniel psch: it kinda works 19:46
m: say sort unique [3, 5, 3, 1]: :
camelia rakudo-moar 7f3224: OUTPUT«(1 3 5)␤»
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AlexDaniel ah, you mean without say… 19:49
m: sort unique (2…3…1): :
camelia ( no output )
AlexDaniel m: sort unique [3, 5, 3, 1]: :
camelia rakudo-moar 7f3224: OUTPUT«5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>␤Confused␤at <tmp>:1␤------> 3sort unique [3, 5, 3, 1]: :7⏏5<EOL>␤ expecting any of:␤ colon pair␤»
AlexDaniel I have no idea
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psch yeah, there's definitely some weird state in the parser making things... weird 19:50
dalek c: 3fd8f9d | (Zoffix Znet)++ | doc/Type/Real.pod6:
Direct to parse-base as reverse of base

Since the :16("") notation has some magiks in it and it can't parse negatives
synopsebot6 Link: doc.perl6.org/type/Real
psch s:2nd/weird/inconsistent/ # probably
from what i remember it might just come down to the non-parens'd branch not expecting an invocant marker anymore for some reason 19:51
but yeah, been some time since i spend time with the grammar
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dalek c: 3dd93ed | (Zoffix Znet)++ | doc/Type/Real.pod6:
Document behaviour of Rational.base(Int:D, Whatever)
 19:54
synopsebot6 Link: doc.perl6.org/type/Real
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viki hm 19:57
psch r: say sort 1: :
camelia rakudo-moar 2432c4, rakudo-jvm 76b061: OUTPUT«(1)␤»
psch r: say sort 2,1: :
camelia rakudo-jvm 76b061: OUTPUT«5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>␤Confused␤at <tmp>:1␤------> 3say sort 2,1: :7⏏5<EOL>␤ expecting any of:␤ colon pair␤»
..rakudo-moar 2432c4: OUTPUT«5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>␤Confused␤at <tmp>:1␤------> 3say sort 2,1: :7⏏5<EOL>␤ expecting any of:␤ colon pair␤»
psch wicked
r: say (sort 2,1:) : 19:58
camelia rakudo-moar 2432c4: OUTPUT«5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>␤Confused␤at <tmp>:1␤------> 3say (sort 2,1:) :7⏏5<EOL>␤ expecting any of:␤ colon pair␤»
..rakudo-jvm 76b061: OUTPUT«5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>␤Confused␤at <tmp>:1␤------> 3say (sort 2,1:) :7⏏5<EOL>␤ expecting any of:␤ colon pair␤»
psch blames the comma
viki r: say sort (2,1): :
camelia rakudo-moar 2432c4: OUTPUT«5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>␤Confused␤at <tmp>:1␤------> 3say sort (2,1): :7⏏5<EOL>␤ expecting any of:␤ colon pair␤»
..rakudo-jvm 76b061: OUTPUT«5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>␤Confused␤at <tmp>:1␤------> 3say sort (2,1): :7⏏5<EOL>␤ expecting any of:␤ colon pair␤»
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psch r: say (sort 1:) : 19:59
camelia rakudo-moar 2432c4, rakudo-jvm 76b061: OUTPUT«(1)␤»
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viki What are the 10 extra second agbout? 20:10
*about
m: say Instant.from-posix: 100
camelia rakudo-moar 2432c4: OUTPUT«Instant:110␤»
psch j: say Instant.from-posix: 100
camelia ( no output )
psch j: say Instant.from-posix: 100
camelia rakudo-jvm 76b061: OUTPUT«Instant:110␤»
psch leap seconds? 20:11
viki doesn't follow how those fit in there
psch j: say Instant.from-posix: 100, :!prefer-leap-second
camelia rakudo-jvm 76b061: OUTPUT«Instant:110␤»
psch yeah, it was a completely blind guess 20:12
"Nil while ($i = $i + 1) < $elems && $p > nqp::atpos($posixes,$i);" 20:13
seems kind of not-that-self-documenting, that line
in Rakudo/Internals.pm:1546, .tai-from-posix
which is what's behind Instant.from-posix
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viki Hm github.com/rakudo/rakudo/blob/7f32...s.pm#L1517 20:14
"# TAI - UTC at the Unix epoch (1970-01-01T00:00:00Z)."
psch ah, so it *is* leap seconds
and we had 10 leap seconds before epoch start
viki Oh, "TAI is exactly 36 seconds ahead of UTC. The 36 seconds results from the initial difference of 10 seconds at the start of 1972, plus 26 leap seconds in UTC since 1972." 20:15
psch j: say Instant.from-posix: 0, :!prefer-leap-second
camelia rakudo-jvm 76b061: OUTPUT«Instant:10␤»
psch m: say Instant.from-posix: 0, :prefer-leap-second
camelia rakudo-moar 2432c4: OUTPUT«Instant:10␤»
psch m: say Instant.from-posix: 0, :!prefer-leap-second
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camelia rakudo-moar 2432c4: OUTPUT«Instant:10␤» 20:15
psch is completely unclear about what that named does
oh wait 20:16
that's the named for tai-from-posix...
ah, but it's called the same in .from-posix 20:17
so, yeah, it might have been intended to allow "ignore leap seconds"..?
geekosaur but that might be buggy if you can't ignore the fixed initial difference
psch ohh
geekosaur which might well be a thinko somewhere
psch prefer-leap-second means "interpret this as a leap second" 20:18
Xliff *SNARL*
I went and upgraded libssl on my linux box.
viki # If $prefer-leap-second is true, 915148800 is interpreted to
# mean 1998-12-31T23:59:60Z rather than 1999-01-01T00:00:00Z
Xliff OpenSSL 1.1.0 changed the initialization and went and broke the OpenSSL module.
AlexDaniel I don't want to sound annoying, but…
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psch m: say Instant.from-posix(78796800, $_) for True, False 20:18
AlexDaniel what about negative values?
camelia rakudo-moar 2432c4: OUTPUT«Instant:78796810␤Instant:78796811␤»
psch m: say Instant.from-posix(78796800, $_).Date for True, False
camelia rakudo-moar 2432c4: OUTPUT«1972-06-30␤1972-07-01␤»
psch there it is
Xliff So OpenSSL support for perl6 will BREAK if users upgrade to OpenSSL 1.0.2 20:19
psch well, assuming there's a positional candidate :P
Xliff Er...
psch m: say Instant.from-posix(78796800, prefer-leap-second => $_).Date for True, False
camelia rakudo-moar 2432c4: OUTPUT«1972-07-01␤1972-07-01␤»
psch m: say Instant.from-posix(78796800, prefer-leap-second => $_).DateTime for True, False
camelia rakudo-moar 2432c4: OUTPUT«1972-07-01T00:00:00Z␤1972-07-01T00:00:00Z␤»
Xliff Let's try that again. -- "So OpenSSL support for perl6 will BREAK if users upgrade to OpenSSL 1.1.0"
viki Isn't 1.1.0 the buggy one with the DoS bug? 20:20
RabidGravy Xliff, I'm sure your patch to mitigate that would be welcomed :) 20:21
AlexDaniel m: say Instant.from-posix: -9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999
camelia rakudo-moar 2432c4: OUTPUT«Instant:-9999999999999999999999999999999999999999989␤»
Xliff RabidGravy: Already looked. It is non-trivial. 20:22
viki m: say Instant.from-posix: -10
camelia rakudo-moar 2432c4: OUTPUT«Instant:0␤»
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viki AlexDaniel: to me it does sound like the 10 extra seconds do not apply prior to start of 1972 20:23
m: say Instant.from-posix(-10).DateTime 20:24
camelia rakudo-moar 2432c4: OUTPUT«1969-12-31T23:59:50Z␤»
viki hm
m: say Instant.from-posix(10).DateTime
camelia rakudo-moar 2432c4: OUTPUT«1970-01-01T00:00:10Z␤»
viki So we basically always sub them?
From what I'm reading at en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Atomic_Time that sounds like a bug 20:25
geekosaur sounds like we're back to the old days of openssl
RabidGravy yeah 20:26
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Xliff GRRR.... and there is no graceful way to downgrade without breaking everything. 20:28
psch ahh, it's *not* named in .from-posix
so yeah, my first eval there was correct
Xliff Sooo...
psch m: say Instant.from-posix(78796800, $_).Date for True, False
camelia rakudo-moar 2432c4: OUTPUT«1972-06-30␤1972-07-01␤»
psch first is leap-second ignorant, second is *-aware
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psch m: say Instant.from-posix(-10, $_).Date for True, False 20:29
camelia rakudo-moar 2432c4: OUTPUT«1969-12-31␤1969-12-31␤»
psch m: say Instant.from-posix(-0, $_).Date for True, False
Xliff Compile openssl 1.0.2 in /usr/local and have a wrapper for my script that forces its use.
camelia rakudo-moar 2432c4: OUTPUT«1970-01-01␤1970-01-01␤»
Xliff yay.
psch m: say Instant.from-posix(0, $_).Date for True, False
camelia rakudo-moar 2432c4: OUTPUT«1970-01-01␤1970-01-01␤»
psch m: say Instant.from-posix(0, $_).DateTime for True, False
camelia rakudo-moar 2432c4: OUTPUT«1970-01-01T00:00:00Z␤1970-01-01T00:00:00Z␤»
RabidGravy I've always tended to treat openssl specially in a build, it went through so long being totally bizarre in its changes
psch ...the first 10 seem to always be there though, viki++ 20:30
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viki AlexDaniel: FWIW, I didn't mean that you open too many tickets or anything here: irclog.perlgeek.de/perl6/2016-11-15#i_13573265 it was just general frustration at dead-end tickets :) 20:32
AlexDaniel viki: I never thought about it this way, don't worry
psch . o O( don't dead-end tickets just mean that people with notable insight don't write enough patches..? )
viki OK. Just making sure :)
AlexDaniel thanks :) 20:33
psch in any case, AlexDaniel++ for digging into things
AlexDaniel viki: that being said, will you open a ticket for 10 second issue? 20:34
I don't understand it as much as you do
viki Yeah
AlexDaniel viki++
psch m: say Instant.from-posix(100, $_) for True, False
camelia rakudo-moar 2432c4: OUTPUT«Instant:110␤Instant:110␤»
psch one of those should say "100", probably the first one
so, yeah, +1 on the ticket and all 20:35
although, honestly, 'prefer-lead-second' sounds like False is the wrong default..?
...leap 20:36
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RabidGravy Xliff, my reading of the openssl changes would indicate that you have a choice when it is compilled whether to be backward compatible or not 20:37
seems strange to package one that isn't
Xliff Backwards compatible (from what I've read) involves a macro in a header. 20:38
I'll download the 1.1 source in a few and see.
But every time I seem to get somewhere with this latest project, something always come back to bite me in the ass.
It's frustrating.
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moritz github.com/supernovus/perl6-http-client/pull/13 preparation for the perl6.org HTTPS redirect. AlexDaniel++ for digging it up 20:42
dalek c: 523f08a | (Zoffix Znet)++ | doc/Type/Real.pod6:
Document .base(Int:D, Whatever) for all Reals

The Whatever was made acceptable by all Reals and not just the Rationals in
  github.com/rakudo/rakudo/commit/c1...c94acda6a6		 20:44
synopsebot6 Link: doc.perl6.org/type/Real
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Xliff \o/ 20:48
Holy shinkies... I fixed it!
Xliff looks at RabidGravy++
RabidGravy top man!
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viki Instant.from-posix ticket: rt.perl.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=130123 20:52
viki &
lizmat viki: from the WP article: "Since this system of correction was implemented in 1972, 26 leap seconds have been inserted" 20:54
viki: "By then, the UTC clock was already 10 seconds behind TAI" 20:56
geekosaur yes, viki quoted a different statement of that earlier
[17 20:15:01] <viki> Oh, "TAI is exactly 36 seconds ahead of UTC. The 36 seconds results from the initial difference of 10 seconds at the start of 1972, plus 26 leap seconds in UTC since 1972." 20:57
lizmat so, anything before 1972 has 10
since this only goes back to 1970 anyway, the current behaviour feels correct to me
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geekosaur I think viki's intepretation is that it was ignored before 1972 so should be 0, with the 10 seconds abruptly appearing at 00:00:00 1 Jan 1972 21:01
if nobody was actually keeping track officially before that point, the interpretation makes sense 21:02
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psch so the 11th leap second was at 78796800, and nobody cared about them before? 21:05
lizmat en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leap_second
"which had been synchronized with UT1 in 1958, " 21:06
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lizmat so, I one could argue that 10 seconds got added in 1958, and between then and 1972 the difference got corrected at 78796800 21:06
psch m: say Instant.from-posix(78796800).DateTime 21:07
camelia rakudo-moar 53d7b7: OUTPUT«1972-07-01T00:00:00Z␤»
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psch ...this comes down to metrology doesn't it 21:08
i mean, it's about solar seconds vs SI seconds 21:09
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psch the question is, are the precise instants for the 10 pre-1972 leap seconds 21:09
because if not we can just do whatever, where one possibility is "we already are doing the right thing" 21:10
*are there
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ydhf sometimes I ask myself what would have been Perl 6 if it would have fully embraced POSIX apis at the nativecall level throwing away multiplatform and fancy things like multithreading (a part for the huge amount of stuff POSIX already gives you) but keeping the syntax and features 21:14
lizmat feels like an ecosystem module to me :-) 21:16
ydhf an huge one 21:17
stmuk_ there is one
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moritz but it's tiny at the moment, no? 21:18
stmuk_ yes but its just case a case of adding nativecall 21:19
github.com/cspencer/perl6-posix/bl.../POSIX.pm6
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psch dunno, integrating POSIX on a language level seems way more work than what POSIX.pm does currently 21:20
i mean, start {} would start posix thread, wouldn't it?
+a
lizmat psch: but "start" doesn't start a thread
start merely schedules code to be executed at a later time by another thread 21:21
ydhf pthread_create would be ok
$
would it work?
psch lizmat: that's kind of my point, start would have to schedule a pthread, instead of a vm thread
lizmat it does not necessarily start a tread
psch lizmat: sorry if i wasn't particularly clear in my wording
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moritz ydhf: try it and see! 21:22
psch m: use NativeCall; sub pthread_create($, $, &, $) is native('pthread') {*} 21:23
camelia rakudo-moar 53d7b7: OUTPUT«Potential difficulties:␤ In 'pthread_create' routine declaration - Not an accepted NativeCall type for parameter [1] : Any␤ --> For Numerical type, use the appropriate int32/int64/num64...␤ at <tmp>:1␤ ------> 3ate($, $, &, $) is nat…»
psch well...
psch isn't gonna dig up the corresponding defines...
m: use NativeCall; sub pthread_create(Pointer $, Pointer $, &, Pointer $) is native('pthread') {*}
camelia ( no output )
psch that probably almost works :P
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stmuk_ isnt the whole point of perl6 that you dont have to do that? 21:26
RabidGravy quite
moritz you really don't have to
psch right, the hypothetical is "what if Perl 6 was a POSIX extension"
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atweiden-air in a regex, is it possible to specify that a general quantifier (**) is an even number? 21:35
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AlexDaniel atweiden-air: well kinda 21:42
geekosaur ** {0, {$_ + 2} ... *} # something like?
AlexDaniel 0, 2 ... * should work too
m: .say for 0, 2 ... *
oops
m: say (for 0, 2 ... *)
camelia rakudo-moar 53d7b7: OUTPUT«(timeout)0␤2␤4␤6␤8␤10␤12␤14␤16␤18␤20␤22␤24␤26␤28␤30␤32␤34␤36␤38␤40␤42␤44␤46␤48␤50␤52␤54␤56␤58␤60␤62␤64␤66␤68␤70␤72␤74␤76␤78␤80␤82␤84␤86␤88␤90␤92␤94␤96␤98␤10…» 21:43
rakudo-moar 53d7b7: OUTPUT«5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>␤Missing block␤at <tmp>:1␤------> 3say (for 0, 2 ... *7⏏5)␤ expecting any of:␤ block or pointy block␤»
AlexDaniel the problem is that you probably want longest token matching
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AlexDaniel but it seems to prefer shorter ones, if I'm not mistaken 21:43
atweiden-air m: say so 'ww' ~~ / w ** {0, 2 ... *}/ 21:44
camelia rakudo-moar 53d7b7: OUTPUT«Cannot .elems a lazy list␤ in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1␤␤Actually thrown at:␤ in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1␤␤»
AlexDaniel so just add a <?{}> check 21:45
m: say ‘abcdef’ ~~ /(.*) <?{$0.chars %% 2}> /
camelia rakudo-moar 53d7b7: OUTPUT«｢abcdef｣␤ 0 => ｢abcdef｣␤»
AlexDaniel m: say ‘abcdefg’ ~~ /(.*) <?{$0.chars %% 2}> /
camelia rakudo-moar 53d7b7: OUTPUT«｢abcdef｣␤ 0 => ｢abcdef｣␤»
AlexDaniel m: say ‘abcdefg’ ~~ /^ (.*) <?{$0.chars %% 2}> $/ 21:46
camelia rakudo-moar 53d7b7: OUTPUT«Nil␤»
AlexDaniel m: say ‘abcdef’ ~~ /^ (.*) <?{$0.chars %% 2}> $/
camelia rakudo-moar 53d7b7: OUTPUT«｢abcdef｣␤ 0 => ｢abcdef｣␤»
AlexDaniel atweiden-air: any reason why that ↑ is not good enough?
perlpilot That's probably closer to what's wanted anyway. (using <?{}> like that)
atweiden-air thanks, will use that
AlexDaniel though you will have to rely on backtracking in this case… 21:47
perlpilot btw, I'm pretty sure any solution like 'ww' ~~ / w ** {0, 2 ... *} / isn't going to do the right thing anyway. For example ... 21:50
m: "aaaa" ~~ / a ** {0,2,4,6} /; # works?
camelia ( no output )
perlpilot m: "aaaa" ~~ / a ** {0,2,4,6} /; say $/; # works?
camelia rakudo-moar 53d7b7: OUTPUT«｢aaaa｣␤»
perlpilot m: "aaa" ~~ / a ** {0,2,4,6} /; say $/; # nope
camelia rakudo-moar 53d7b7: OUTPUT«Nil␤»
AlexDaniel number of elems, yeah
it does .elems on it 21:51
atweiden-air m: my token item { \h* <?{$0.chars %% 2}> w+ } ; say so 'w' ~~ &item 21:52
camelia rakudo-moar 53d7b7: OUTPUT«Use of Nil in string context␤ in block at <tmp> line 1␤True␤»
perlpilot It should die with an NYI error IMHO as it could easily confuse someone
AlexDaniel m: say ‘abcdefgh’ ~~ /.**{2|5}/ # this is sad too
camelia rakudo-moar 53d7b7: OUTPUT«This type (Junction) does not support positional operations␤ in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1␤␤»
AlexDaniel atweiden-air: you didn't capture it with ()
atweiden-air right 21:53
AlexDaniel m: say ‘abcdefgh’ ~~ /.**{Inf}/ # this is sad too
camelia rakudo-moar 53d7b7: OUTPUT«This type (Failure) does not support positional operations␤ in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1␤␤»
AlexDaniel m: say ‘abcdefgh’ ~~ /.**{NaN}/ # this is sad too
camelia rakudo-moar 53d7b7: OUTPUT«This type cannot unbox to a native integer: P6opaque, Failure␤ in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1␤␤»
AlexDaniel m: say ‘abcdefgh’ ~~ /.**{3.4}/ # this is sad too
camelia rakudo-moar 53d7b7: OUTPUT«｢abc｣␤»
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AlexDaniel m: say ‘abcdefgh’ ~~ /.** 3..5/ 21:55
camelia rakudo-moar 53d7b7: OUTPUT«｢abcde｣␤»
AlexDaniel and this is also not a normal range syntax
m: say ‘abcdefgh7’ ~~ /.** 3..5..8/
camelia rakudo-moar 53d7b7: OUTPUT«Nil␤»
AlexDaniel m: say ‘abcdefgh7’ ~~ /.** 3..5..✓/
camelia rakudo-moar 53d7b7: OUTPUT«5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>␤Unrecognized regex metacharacter ✓ (must be quoted to match literally)␤at <tmp>:1␤------> 3say ‘abcdefgh7’ ~~ /.** 3..5..7⏏5✓/␤ expecting any of:␤ infix stopper␤»
AlexDaniel oops
m: say ‘abcdefgh7’ ~~ /.** 3..5..7/
camelia rakudo-moar 53d7b7: OUTPUT«｢bcdefgh7｣␤»
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AlexDaniel meh 22:00
m: say ‘abcdefgh’ ~~ /.** {0..Inf}/
camelia rakudo-moar 53d7b7: OUTPUT«｢abcdefgh｣␤»
AlexDaniel m: say ‘abcdefgh’ ~~ /.** {0..-Inf}/
camelia rakudo-moar 53d7b7: OUTPUT«Range maximum in quantifier (**) cannot be -Inf␤ in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1␤␤»
AlexDaniel cool, somebody special-cased -Ing, right?
m: say ‘abcdefgh’ ~~ /.** {0..NaN}/
camelia rakudo-moar 53d7b7: OUTPUT«This type cannot unbox to a native integer: P6opaque, Failure␤ in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1␤␤»
AlexDaniel but not NaN! 22:01
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AlexDaniel m: say ‘abc’ ~~ /^(.** {-10..-5}) {say $0} <!>/ 22:03
camelia rakudo-moar 53d7b7: OUTPUT«｢abc｣␤｢ab｣␤｢a｣␤｢｣␤Nil␤»
AlexDaniel and negative numbers are bugged
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AlexDaniel ah dammit 22:17
m: say ‘abcefghij’ ~~ / .**{2..^3} /
camelia rakudo-moar 53d7b7: OUTPUT«｢abc｣␤»
AlexDaniel m: say (2^..^2).elems
camelia rakudo-moar 53d7b7: OUTPUT«0␤»
AlexDaniel m: say ‘abcefghij’ ~~ / .**{2..^2} /
camelia rakudo-moar 53d7b7: OUTPUT«｢ab｣␤»
AlexDaniel m: say ‘abcefghij’ ~~ / .**{2^..^2} /
camelia rakudo-moar 53d7b7: OUTPUT«｢ab｣␤»
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RabidGravy heads up for anyone interested, there's something leaky around Capture literals - will track down and golf 22:26
anyone nighty night
AlexDaniel m: say ‘abcefghij’ ~~ / .**{2..1} / 22:27
camelia rakudo-moar 53d7b7: OUTPUT«Nil␤»
AlexDaniel so this doesn't match anything, makes sense?
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AlexDaniel yeah 22:27
m: say ‘abcefghij’ ~~ / .**{2..0} /
camelia rakudo-moar 53d7b7: OUTPUT«｢abcefghij｣␤»
AlexDaniel /o\
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[Coke] viki: 3fd8f9d0f4a1 in perl6/doc breaks with: L«C<parse-base>/routine/parse-base» . getting a failure in 'make xtest' 22:32
er, file is doc/Type/Real.pod6 22:33
perl6 xt/aspell.t doc/Type/Real.pod6 shows the error.
er, warning.
samcv is there a perl 6 module to find all url's in a text or should I make one? 22:36
El_Che samcv: make one, I use Perl5 URI::Find on some perl 5 scripts :) 22:37
samcv kk :)
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dalek c: 8b85121 | (Zoffix Znet)++ | doc/Type/Real.pod6:
Fix broken POD directive

  [Coke]++		 23:06
synopsebot6 Link: doc.perl6.org/type/Real
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atweiden-air is it possible to have more than one C<:my $such-and-such = 2> code block inside a grammar token? 23:17
timotimo should be possible, yeah 23:20
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MasterDuke atweiden-air: github.com/rakudo/rakudo/blob/nom/...r.nqp#L199 23:23
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atweiden-air m: gist.github.com/anonymous/86f67673...7ec6927efc 23:36
camelia rakudo-moar 53d7b7: OUTPUT«Use of Nil in string context␤ in regex abc at <tmp> line 8␤[DEBUG] $leading-whitespace: 0␤[DEBUG] real $leading-whitespace: 2␤False␤»
timotimo you may have to cause the captures to be reified with a {} 23:37
literally just {} after \h*
atweiden-air timotimo: what does reified mean in this instance? 23:38
timotimo ah, just "turned into a real thing" 23:40
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