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Set by moritz on 22 December 2015.
labster and another great job, lizmat++ 00:04
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BenGoldberg m: my method is-even (Int:D: --> Bool:D) { self %% 2 }; 42.^add_method("is-even", &is-even); say .is-even for 3, 12; 00:20
camelia False
True
BenGoldberg finds it funny that no .compose is needed for this.
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greenspaceman Hi! 00:25
skids o/
greenspaceman I'm trying to understand the behaviour of the .clone method, and it's been elluding me. Here's a minimal example of what looks like weird behaviour to me: pastebin.com/8enBKtdX 00:26
timotimo clone in perl6 is shallow
Xliff Um.
Here's an odd thing.
greenspaceman That explains a bit. But why the non-change in the first one? 00:27
Xliff m: my $idx = 0; say $idx"; $idx++
camelia 5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>
Two terms in a row
at <tmp>:1
------> 3my $idx = 0; say $idx7⏏5"; $idx++
expecting any of:
infix
infix stopper
postfix
statement end
statem…
Xliff m: my $idx = 0; say $idx; $idx++
camelia 0
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Xliff Why does my code say "Use of Nil in numeric context" when I do that in a loop. 00:28
timotimo what's your loop look like, exactly?
Xliff unless %market{$k}<sell>[$idx]<vol_remain> > $minVol {
say "I: $idx";
$idx++;
next;
}
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timotimo hm, you gave $idx a value before that loop, yeah? 00:28
skids greenspaceman: The uninitialized attribute gets cloned unautovivified I think. 00:29
Xliff my ($minVol, $idx) = ($count / 10, 0);
So yes. That's done before the loop.
skids So you clone an autovivifier (a WHENCE)
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timotimo Xliff: too tired to think, sorry. will now fall into bed 00:29
Xliff LOL 00:30
MasterDuke_ Xliff: where's the loop?
Xliff The only other thing that might be odd is:
my $count := $i[1];
MasterDuke_: Scroll up
greenspaceman Interesting. So, if I want deep-cloning I should implement it as a method for my classes, right?
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timotimo yeah, that's probably necessary 00:30
Xliff But I do work on $count.
And I like self-documenting code. 00:31
skids tries to rmember if there is a deep clonish thing allready.
MasterDuke_ Xliff: but unless isn't a loop...? 00:33
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Xliff Oh. Sorry. That's more code than I want to flood so lemme fpaste. 00:35
skids greenspaceman: yeah I'm not seeing anything built in. Well, deepmap for lists, but no attribute traverser.
Xliff And changing the "$idx++" to "$idx = $idx + 1" doesn't fix the issue.
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timotimo might be able to >>.clone or something 00:36
since hyperops try to preserve structure
greenspaceman skids: Thanks! I'll implement it myself, then. I don't really need a full deep-clone so I should have done it anyway. 00:38
Xliff gist.github.com/Xliff/4bdd5ba85334...0802640af8
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MasterDuke_ if you say $idx right before the increment? 00:40
Xliff That is the original version, but yes, if I "say $idx" before the increment, I get a value. 00:41
So.... WTF
timotimo maybe the error's line number is wrong
Xliff Probably so.
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Xliff Problem is... why am I getting the wrong line number? 00:51
MasterDuke_ does --ll-exception say anything useful? 00:52
Xliff I'll check.
After this I will probably rakudobrew to see if it's just a commit oddness.
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Xliff Renamed the variable and still getting same behavior. 00:56
This makes no sense.
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Xliff It was the line above. 01:03
Well that was LTA
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Xliff *sigh* -- also data issues. Fixed now. Thanks. 01:14
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Xliff If you sort something and assign it to a variable does that give you an array or a sequence? 01:32
I am assuming a sequence.
That has a hidden gotcha.
Because this line: %market{$k}<sell> = %m<quicklook><sell_orders><order>.sort: $sorter
I am assuming will return a sorted list, and it looks like that is not the case. 01:33
m: my %a; %a{list} = (1 2 3 4); %a{sorted_list} = %a.sort; dd %a
camelia 5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>
Two terms in a row
at <tmp>:1
------> 3my %a; %a{list} = (17⏏5 2 3 4); %a{sorted_list} = %a.sort; dd %
expecting any of:
infix
infix stopper
statement end
…
Xliff m: my %a; %a{list} = (1 2 3 4); %a{sorted_list} = %a.sort; dd %a; 01:34
camelia 5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>
Two terms in a row
at <tmp>:1
------> 3my %a; %a{list} = (17⏏5 2 3 4); %a{sorted_list} = %a.sort; dd %
expecting any of:
infix
infix stopper
statement end
…
Xliff m: my %a; %a{list} = q(1 2 3 4); %a{sorted_list} = %a.sort; dd %a;
camelia 5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>
Unable to parse expression in argument list; couldn't find final ')'
at <tmp>:1
------> 3my %a; %a{list} = q(17⏏5 2 3 4); %a{sorted_list} = %a.sort; dd %
expecting any of:
infix…
Xliff m: my %a; %a{list} = (1, 2, 3, 4); %a{sorted_list} = %a.sort; dd %a;
camelia 5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>
Undeclared routine:
sorted_list used at line 1
Xliff m: my %a; %a<list> = (1, 2, 3, 4); %a<sorted_list> = %a.sort; dd %a;
camelia Hash %a = {:list($(1, 2, 3, 4)), :sorted_list((:list($(1, 2, 3, 4)),).Seq)}
Xliff m: my %a; %a<list> = (1, 2, 3, 4); %a<sorted_list> = %a.sort.list; dd %a;
camelia Hash %a = {:list($(1, 2, 3, 4)), :sorted_list($(:list($(1, 2, 3, 4)),))}
Xliff YEP. 01:35
So to extend that....
m: my %a; %a<list> = (1, 2, 3, 4); %a<sorted_list> = %a.sort.list; dd %a; my @a = %a<sorted_list; @a.elems.say
camelia 5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>
Unable to parse quote-words subscript; couldn't find right angle quote
at <tmp>:1
------> 3%a; my @a = %a<sorted_list; @a.elems.say7⏏5<EOL>
expecting any of:
postfix
Xliff m: my %a; %a<list> = (1, 2, 3, 4); %a<sorted_list> = %a.sort.list; dd %a; my @a = %a<sorted_list>; @a.elems.say
camelia Hash %a = {:list($(1, 2, 3, 4)), :sorted_list($(:list($(1, 2, 3, 4)),))}
1
Xliff Is this the intended behavior? 01:36
TimToady yes, values in arrays and lists are itemized, so sometimes you have to .list them when you take them out 01:37
s/lists/hashes/
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TimToady m: my %a; %a<list> = (1, 2, 3, 4); %a<sorted_list> = %a.sort.list; dd %a; my @a = %a<sorted_list>[]; @a.elems.say 01:38
camelia Hash %a = {:list($(1, 2, 3, 4)), :sorted_list($(:list($(1, 2, 3, 4)),))}
1
TimToady hmm, looks like an extra layer of $ there though
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TimToady m: my %a; %a<list> = (1, 2, 3, 4); %a<sorted_list> = %a<list>.sort.cache; dd %a; my @a = %a<sorted_list>[]; @a.elems.say 01:42
camelia Hash %a = {:list($(1, 2, 3, 4)), :sorted_list($(1, 2, 3, 4))}
4
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TimToady m: my %a; %a<list> = (1, 2, 3, 4); %a<sorted_list> = %a<list>.sort.list; dd %a; my @a = %a<sorted_list>[]; @a.elems.say 01:42
camelia Hash %a = {:list($(1, 2, 3, 4)), :sorted_list($(1, 2, 3, 4))}
4
TimToady m: my %a; %a<list> = (1, 2, 3, 4); %a<sorted_list> = %a<list>.sort.list; dd %a; my @a = %a<sorted_list>; @a.elems.say
camelia Hash %a = {:list($(1, 2, 3, 4)), :sorted_list($(1, 2, 3, 4))}
1
TimToady yes, that all seems about right 01:43
u-ou does .sort on a scalarised list return another scalarised list? 01:44
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Xliff TimToady: But shouldn't assigning a sequence to an array give you a list off sorted values rather than a single valued list (where that value is the sequence). 01:50
m: my %a; %a<list> = (1, 2, 3, 4); %a<sorted_list> = %a.sort.list; dd %a; my @a = %a<sorted_list>; dd @a; 01:51
camelia Hash %a = {:list($(1, 2, 3, 4)), :sorted_list($(:list($(1, 2, 3, 4)),))}
Array @a = [(:list($(1, 2, 3, 4)),),]
Xliff m: my %a; %a<list> = (1, 2, 3, 4); %a<sorted_list> = %a.sort; dd %a; my @a = %a<sorted_list>; dd @a;
camelia Hash %a = {:list($(1, 2, 3, 4)), :sorted_list((:list($(1, 2, 3, 4)),).Seq)}
Array @a = [Seq.new-consumed(),]
Xliff Seq.new-consumed() ?!?
geekosaur because the dd %a ate it 01:52
u-ou I think assigning a sequence to a @ variable evaluates the whole sequence
Xliff m: my %a; %a<list> = (1, 2, 3, 4); %a<sorted_list> = %a.sort; my @a = %a<sorted_list>; dd @a;
camelia Array @a = [(:list($(1, 2, 3, 4)),).Seq,]
Xliff ^^ That's array containing a single Seq, not (1, 2, 3, 4).
m: my %a; %a<list> = (1, 2, 3, 4); %a<sorted_list> = %a<list>.sort; my @a = %a<sorted_list>; dd @a; 01:53
camelia Array @a = [(1, 2, 3, 4).Seq,]
Xliff Minor error
Still a seq.
m: my %a; %a<list> = (1, 2, 3, 4); %a<sorted_list> = %a<list>.sort; my @a = %a<sorted_list>; dd @a; @a.elems.say
camelia Array @a = [(1, 2, 3, 4).Seq,]
1
MasterDuke_ m: my %a; %a<list> = (1, 2, 3, 4); %a<sorted_list> = %a<list>.list.sort; my @a = %a<sorted_list>; dd @a; 01:54
camelia Array @a = [(1, 2, 3, 4).Seq,]
MasterDuke_ m: my %a; %a<list> = (1, 2, 3, 4); %a<sorted_list> = %a<list>.sort; my @a = %a<sorted_list>.list; dd @a;
camelia Array @a = [1, 2, 3, 4]
MasterDuke_ m: my %a; %a<list> = (1, 2, 3, 4); %a<sorted_list> = %a<list>.sort; my @a = %a<sorted_list>[]; dd @a;
camelia Array @a = [1, 2, 3, 4]
Xliff "This Seq has already been iterated, and its values consumed 01:55
(you might solve this by adding .cache on usages of the Seq, or
by assigning the Seq into an array)"
^^ So am I misunderstanding this message?
MasterDuke_ m: my %a; %a<list> = (1, 2, 3, 4); %a<sorted_list> := %a<list>.sort; my @a = %a<sorted_list>; dd @a;
camelia Array @a = [1, 2, 3, 4]
Xliff Ahhh...
MasterDuke_ the hash value is containerized 01:56
Xliff Still.... weird.
OK. That will probably solve it.
MasterDuke_ m: my %a; %a<list> = (5, 1, 2, 3, 4); %a<sorted_list> = %a<list>.sort; my @a = %a<sorted_list>[]; dd @a;
camelia Array @a = [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]
MasterDuke_ m: my %a; %a<list> = (5, 1, 2, 3, 4); %a<sorted_list> = %a<list>.sort; my @a = %a<sorted_list>; dd @a;
camelia Array @a = [(1, 2, 3, 4, 5).Seq,]
Xliff Using a bind in my code breaks it. 01:58
MasterDuke_ what about `%a<sorted_list>[]`? 01:59
Xliff m: my %a; %a<list> = (5, 1, 2, 3, 4); %a<sorted_list> = (%a<list>.sort)[]; dd %a
camelia Hash %a = {:list($(5, 1, 2, 3, 4)), :sorted_list((1, 2, 3, 4, 5).Seq)}
Xliff m: my %a; %a<list> = (5, 1, 2, 3, 4); %a<sorted_list> = %a<list>.sort.list; dd %a 02:00
camelia Hash %a = {:list($(5, 1, 2, 3, 4)), :sorted_list($(1, 2, 3, 4, 5))}
Xliff OK. Now here's the problem with .list.
m: my %a; %a<list> = ({ a=> 5}, { a=> 1}, { a=> 2 }); %a<sorted_list> = %a<list>.sort({ $^a<a> <=> $^b<a>}).list; dd %a 02:02
camelia Hash %a = {:list($({:a(5)}, {:a(1)}, {:a(2)})), :sorted_list($({:a(1)}, {:a(2)}, {:a(5)}))}
Xliff m: my %a; %a<list> = ({ a=> 5, b => 'a'}, { a=> 1, b => 'b' }, { a=> 2, b => 'c' }); %a<sorted_list> = %a<list>.sort({ $^a<a> <=> $^b<a>}).list; dd %a
camelia Hash %a = {:list($({:a(5), :b("a")}, {:a(1), :b("b")}, {:a(2), :b("c")})), :sorted_list($({:a(1), :b("b")}, {:a(2), :b("c")}, {:a(5), :b("a")}))}
Xliff Hmm... 02:03
camelia isn't doing it... dammit
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Xliff m: my %a; %a<list> = ({ a=> 5, b => 'a'}, { a=> 1, d => 'b' }, { a=> 2, e => 'c' }); %a<sorted_list> = %a<list>.sort({ $^a<a> <=> $^b<a>}).list; dd %a 02:03
camelia Hash %a = {:list($({:a(5), :b("a")}, {:a(1), :d("b")}, {:a(2), :e("c")})), :sorted_list($({:a(1), :d("b")}, {:a(2), :e("c")}, {:a(5), :b("a")}))}
u-ou is it bad practice to call a Role's .new method, you're supposed to make a class that "does" that role first? 02:08
samcv heh nice. my rakudo-appimage gh-pages branch is now 465MB so far
wonder how big a repo has to get for github to get mad at you?
if you only keep like 50MB of files at a time in each revision 02:09
geekosaur u-ou, you can do it and an empoty class will be composed with it first
u-ou automagically like?
geekosaur as if you'd said (iirc): (class :: does TheRole {}).new 02:10
samcv rakudo is 41031KB, nqp is 110874KB
u-ou I see
samcv stats you can get in json here api.github.com/repos/perl6/nqp
geekosaur and yes, automagically
roles can't be instantiated, so it has to compose a class with it
u-ou cool
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MasterDuke_ it's called punning 02:12
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Xliff I am getting this emitted every time I run perl6, now. 02:18
HERE:
- sym: :
- O:
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Xliff m: my %a; %a<list> = ({ a=> 5, b => 'a'}, { a=> 1, d => 'b' }, { a=> 2, e => 'c' }); %a<list>.sort; dd %a; 02:19
camelia Hash %a = {:list($({:a(5), :b("a")}, {:a(1), :d("b")}, {:a(2), :e("c")}))}
Xliff m: my %a; %a<list> = ({ a=> 5, b => 'a'}, { a=> 1, d => 'b' }, { a=> 2, e => 'c' }); %a<list>.sort: { $^a<a> <=> $^b<a>}; dd %a; 02:22
camelia Hash %a = {:list($({:a(5), :b("a")}, {:a(1), :d("b")}, {:a(2), :e("c")}))}
Xliff m: my %a; %a<list> = ({ a=> 5, b => 'a'}, { a=> 1, d => 'b' }, { a=> 2, e => 'c' }); sort { $^a<a> <=> $^b<a>} %a<list>; dd %a; 02:23
camelia 5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>
Missing comma after block argument to sort
at <tmp>:1
------> 3' }); sort { $^a<a> <=> $^b<a>} %a<list>7⏏5; dd %a;
Xliff m: my %a; %a<list> = ({ a=> 5, b => 'a'}, { a=> 1, d => 'b' }, { a=> 2, e => 'c' }); sort { $^a<a> <=> $^b<a>}, %a<list>; dd %a;
camelia Hash %a = {:list($({:a(5), :b("a")}, {:a(1), :d("b")}, {:a(2), :e("c")}))}
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MasterDuke_ that's from a TimToady commit on the 10th 02:33
m: say "hi": 02:34
camelia HERE:
- sym: :
- O:

hi
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Xliff m: say 1 02:36
camelia 1
Xliff m: say 1: 02:37
camelia HERE:
- sym: :
- O:

1
Xliff What triggers it?
Or is it always there and camelia is suppressing it without the trailing ':'
AlexDaniel e: say 1 02:38
evalable6 1
AlexDaniel e: say 1:
evalable6 HERE:
- sym: :
- O:

1
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MasterDuke_ github.com/rakudo/rakudo/blob/nom/....nqp#L4504 02:39
github.com/rakudo/rakudo/commit/cd...a1c4018b7b 02:40
Xliff So it's in my code somewhere?
I am having a hard time reading that.
MasterDuke_ i think it's a debugging thing that got accidentally left in
Xliff OK
MasterDuke_ .tell TimToady if you backlog here irclog.perlgeek.de/perl6/2017-04-18#i_14443061, was this intended? 02:42
yoleaux MasterDuke_: I'll pass your message to TimToady.
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AlexDaniel MasterDuke_: definitely not :D 03:01
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MasterDuke_ seems unlikely for sure 03:14
AlexDaniel would be nice if somebody fixed it right away 03:19
so that we don't wake up with a hundred of complaints :)
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Xliff *sigh* 04:33
If I have sub MAIN($a, $b, *%c), will the option --d be put in %c as %c<d> ?
Or will the main choke on "--d" 04:34
I have a script that will depend on a WHOLE passel of optional arguments and I don't want to clutter the signature.
Assuming I have that option.
Just tried it and MAIN throws back "--c=..." in USAGE. 04:35
And yes, it chokes on --d.
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Xliff m: sub a (Int $a Where (1..10)) { say $a }; a(5); 05:37
camelia 5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>
Malformed parameter
at <tmp>:1
------> 3sub a (Int $a7⏏5 Where (1..10)) { say $a }; a(5);
expecting any of:
constraint
Xliff m: sub a (Int $a Where 1..10) { say $a }; a(5);
camelia 5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>
Malformed parameter
at <tmp>:1
------> 3sub a (Int $a7⏏5 Where 1..10) { say $a }; a(5);
expecting any of:
constraint
Xliff m: sub a (Int $a Where * %% 2) { say $a }; a(5);
camelia 5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>
Malformed parameter
at <tmp>:1
------> 3sub a (Int $a7⏏5 Where * %% 2) { say $a }; a(5);
expecting any of:
constraint
Xliff m: sub a (Int $a Where * > 0) { say $a; }; a(5).say 05:38
camelia 5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>
Malformed parameter
at <tmp>:1
------> 3sub a (Int $a7⏏5 Where * > 0) { say $a; }; a(5).say
expecting any of:
constraint
Xliff m: subset Range of Int Where { .any(1..10) }; sub a (Range $a) { say $a; }; a(5).say 05:40
camelia 5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>
Two terms in a row
at <tmp>:1
------> 3subset Range of Int7⏏5 Where { .any(1..10) }; sub a (Range $a)
expecting any of:
infix
infix stopper
postfix
s…
Xliff m: subset Range of Int Where { .any(1..10) }; sub a (Range $a) { say $a; }; a(5).say;
camelia 5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>
Two terms in a row
at <tmp>:1
------> 3subset Range of Int7⏏5 Where { .any(1..10) }; sub a (Range $a)
expecting any of:
infix
infix stopper
postfix
s…
Xliff m: subset Range of Int Where { .any(1..10); }; sub a (Range $a) { say $a; }; a(5).say;
camelia 5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>
Two terms in a row
at <tmp>:1
------> 3subset Range of Int7⏏5 Where { .any(1..10); }; sub a (Range $a
expecting any of:
infix
infix stopper
postfix
s…
CIAvash Xliff: Where → where 05:43
Xliff *groan*
CIAvash: Can you use slurpy named args in MAIN?
Right now it doesn't seem to be working for me. 05:44
(Thanks for the help, btw!)
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CIAvash Xliff: It seems *%foo works 05:57
Xliff Everytime I try that, USAGE says "--foo=..."
But I don't want "--foo", I want "--a_name_not_specified_in_the_signature" 05:58
And I will write custom USAGE
That's how slurpy's work in subs.
CIAvash It's only written in the usage, all options will be stored in %foo 05:59
Xliff When I try that, the USAGE gets called.
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Xliff Oh SNAP! 06:00
I was doing --noname blah, not --noname=blah
CIAvash :)
Xliff I wish there was a way of doing the former in P6 without too much work, buut.
'kay well 06:01
I will save it for tomorrow.
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RabidGravy boom! 06:26
samcv hi RabidGravy
i'm gonna have to open a lot of github tickets for these failing modules. having travis try installing every single eco module 06:27
and i think it will time out before installing all of them. but. i could be wrong. but it seems likely
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RabidGravy I'm surprised it doesn't time out after about twenty to be honest 06:32
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bioexpress Hello, I have the module "MyModule": use v6; unit class MyModule; use MyModule::Kurses; "MyModule::Kurses" looks like this: use v6; unit module MyModule::Kurses; use LibraryCheck; if library-exists('ncurses', v5) {} When I try to install "MyModule" I get this error: ===> Install [FAIL] for MyModule: ===SORRY!=== 06:45
Cannot invoke this object (REPR: Null; VMNull) What could be the reason this fail? I get the same error when I use NCruses (instead of MyModule::Kurses) 06:46
RabidGravy dunno, do you have a reasonably recent rakudo? 06:52
bioexpress rakudo star 2017.01 06:54
RabidGravy Hmm that should be fine I guess, can you gist your actual code? 06:55
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TimToady how are you installing? I'm currently having a bit of trouble with zef... 06:57
bioexpress Can you tell me what "gist the code" means?
geekosaur post it at gist.github.com
which is essentially temporary git repos
for multi-file pastes
bioexpress How could I do that?
zef --force install /home/mm/lib/PERL6/MyModule-p6 06:58
Should I create a git repo?
TimToady my zef doesn't seem to want to talk to github at the moment 06:59
RabidGravy :(
bioexpress, just go to gist.github.com/ and paste your code 07:00
then tell us the resulting URI
bioexpress ok 07:01
RabidGravy TimToady, well 'perl6 -MHTTP::UserAgent -e 'say HTTP::UserAgent.new.get("github.com/")'' seems okay from here so it may be local :) 07:03
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TimToady heh, I get: Could not find HTTP::UserAgent at line 1 07:05
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gfldex TimToady: you can use zef to install that :-> 07:06
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RabidGravy bioexpress, I can confirm what you are seeing 07:13
bioexpress Thx, I'm not alone. 07:14
TimToady reinstalling zef seems to have fixed my download problem; I probably nuked something it thought it could rely on at some point 07:15
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RabidGravy bioexpress, it looks like something funny with library-exists() being used where it is, I'm not quite sure why though 07:22
bioexpress Is this a bug? 07:27
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RabidGravy bioexpress, it's probably a bug, but I'm not sure who's bug it is, inasmuch as the library-exists definitely works in all other circumstances and if you use like that in a module that is directly used it is fine 08:01
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RabidGravy I think it's because it is being called while the MyModule is being compiled 08:03
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RabidGravy bioexpress, right, you can work around this by adding "no precompilation;" at the top of the MyModule::Kurses - it's not ideal but should get you moving along 08:32
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bioexpress RabidGravy, thanks for the help! 08:39
lizmat clickbaits p6weekly.wordpress.com/2017/04/17/...-the-road/ 08:40
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RabidGravy I suspect that this is an alternative manifestation of rt.perl.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=127034 08:45
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eater is the definition of Build.pm documentated somewhere? 09:32
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samcv build.pm? 09:37
there's no build.pm in rakudo or nqp repos
oh is that in panda or zef maybe? 09:39
eater samcv: some zef / panda packages have them ye 09:40
samcv which? 09:42
Panda::Builder?
i'm getting 'Build' cannot inherit from 'Panda::Builder' because it is unknown. personally
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eater samcv: f.x. Noiseline uses it 09:44
github.com/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&a...;type=Code
samcv can seorch this way github.com/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&a...;type=Code 09:48
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samcv not all perl 6 files have use v6 09:48
also we have github.com/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&a...;type=Code
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samcv or all of them: github.com/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&a...;type=Code 09:49
eater, so the exact eror you are getting is? is it the same as mine? 09:52
eater no, I just was looking if there was actually a spec/rfc
samcv oh. so you don't get any error
ok
well. you can install stuff without zef i mean. i think. or maybe it's special 09:53
eater samcv: this is for: github.com/ugexe/zef/issues/152#is...-294594127
samcv idk perl6 -Ilib bin/zef install .
i guess it uses itself to install itself
which is weird but cool i guess
eater samcv: there needs to be a /global/ way to define build parameters 09:54
and currently there isn't
samcv ah
it's called CFLAGS
:P
eater fite me
samcv ok a non ENV variable way to set CFLAGS? 09:55
eater yea
samcv also i very much think is within the scope of zef
it builds packages
like saying it's out of scope for make
unless it's using some other package to build?
eater so a binary package manager can inject those build parameters
dalek b-rakudo: e98193a | (Zoffix Znet)++ | download-page.php:
Fix sorting of point releases on rakudo.org/downloads/

PHP's glob() gives them to us AFTER non-point releases, so when a point release is the latest release, we end up with non-point release in the "latest" box.
Fix by shoving them into a separate array first and prepend to file list when we get the first non-point release (or we're done looking through files).
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samcv LibraryMake right? 09:55
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eater that's currently one that's being weird 09:56
but I have the odd feeling the project is dead
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samcv wait but zef has no dependencies 09:58
hm
eater samcv: what do u mean? 09:59
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samcv ok what is pulling in that package? 10:00
the noiseline does i guess. and then that calls library make
eater yea
samcv well i'd make a PR
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eater samcv: to where? LibraryMake? 10:01
samcv github.com/retupmoca/P6-LibraryMak...e.pm6#L129 # %vars<CCFLAGS> = %*ENV<CCFLAGS> // $*VM.config<cflags>;
yes
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samcv and if no response i mean can always fork it. multiple releases by the same name can exist. just make sure you put an :auth part in the module 10:02
eater cool
samcv iand get that used by the other one
but yeah
that's what i'd do
eater will look into it tonight
samcv thank you :)
eater after that I'll still look into actually defining Build.pm tho 10:03
because this is weird
El_Che hello's 10:05
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samcv now has TEN travis builds running travis-ci.org/samcv/rakudo-appimage 10:07
trying to install all of the modules in the ecosystem
hopefully this is doable cause i only get 50 mins per build
so sorted them by name, then split them into 10 pieces
doesn't take dependencies into account so there's gonna be some overlap probably. but. simplest way to do it 10:08
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Geth doc: 9b184cb458 | (Zoffix Znet)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | doc/Language/glossary.pod6
Toss empty `handles` entry from glossary
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Zoffix El_Che: you may wanna hold on with your packages until 2017.04.2 is out 11:21
(should be within next 10 hours) 11:22
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El_Che tell 12:39
!tell Zoffix Thx, I'll do that. I was just starting to create the pkgs, but indeed beter to wait 12:40
nope
MasterDuke_ El_Che: .tell 12:42
El_Che .tell El_Che you suck
yoleaux El_Che: Talking to yourself is the first sign of madness.
El_Che :)
.tell Zoffix Thx, I'll do that. I was just starting to create the pkgs, but indeed beter to wait
yoleaux El_Che: I'll pass your message to Zoffix.
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Geth ecosystem: 74a4b9dd5f | (Carl Mäsak)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | META.list
Take tardis off the ecosystem list

Project being dormant/unmaintained for a long time now without achieving escape velocity.		 12:59
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eater is panda btw abandoned? or does it just look like that? 13:44
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moritz what's the difference? 13:45
eater my observation skills 13:47
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tadzik it's effectively abandoned 13:55
Geth Inline-Perl5: 81c8a1f4eb | (Stefan Seifert)++ | lib/Inline/Perl5.pm6
Fix accessing the helper shared lib when installed via Staging repo

Rakudo will now return Distribution::Resource objects from %?RESOURCES lookups. NativeCall knows how to deal with those, so we don't have to stringify manually anymore. This allows for deferred creation of the path and thus fixes issues when the path differs between compile time and run time (as it does when installed via Staging repo).		 13:59
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alphah Hi 14:37
m: my %h; %h<a> = { k1 => "v1", k2 => "v2" }; %h<b> = { k2 => "v3", k4 => "v4" }; %h<a> ,= %h<b>
camelia ( no output )
alphah m: my %h; %h<a> = { k1 => "v1", k2 => "v2" }; %h<b> = { k2 => "v3", k4 => "v4" }; %h<a> ,= %h<b>; say %h
camelia {a => (\List_75262736 = (List_75262736 {k2 => v3, k4 => v4})), b => {k2 => v3, k4 => v4}}
alphah why the output has \List_, and how can I make it show the key'values normally 14:38
moritz the \List_ stuff is because you have a circular reference in your data structure
and you can show it normally by deleting circular references first 14:39
alphah mortiz: can you point out where is that circular refernce? 14:40
moritz or not necessarily circular, but referencing the same hash twice
m: my %h; %h<a> = { k1 => "v1", k2 => "v2" }; %h<b> = { k2 = "v3", k4 => "v4" }; %h<a> ,= %h<b>; say %h<a> 14:42
camelia 5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>
Preceding context expects a term, but found infix = instead
at <tmp>:1
------> 3k1 => "v1", k2 => "v2" }; %h<b> = { k2 =7⏏5 "v3", k4 => "v4" }; %h<a> ,= %h<b>; say
moritz m: my %h; %h<a> = { k1 => "v1", k2 => "v2" }; %h<b> = { k2 => "v3", k4 => "v4" }; %h<a> ,= %h<b>; say %h<a>
camelia (\List_77711440 = (List_77711440 {k2 => v3, k4 => v4}))
moritz m: my %h; %h<a> = { k1 => "v1", k2 => "v2" }; %h<b> = { k2 => "v3", k4 => "v4" }; %h<a>.push(%h<b>.list); say %h<a> 14:43
camelia {k1 => v1, k2 => [v2 v3], k4 => v4}
moritz m: my %h; %h<a> = { k1 => "v1", k2 => "v2" }; %h<b> = { k2 => "v3", k4 => "v4" }; %h<a>.push(%h<b>.list); say %h
camelia {a => {k1 => v1, k2 => [v2 v3], k4 => v4}, b => {k2 => v3, k4 => v4}}
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raschipi m: my %h; %h<a> = { k1 => "v1", k2 => "v2" }; %h<b> = { k2 => "v3", k4 => "v4" }; %h<a> ,= %h<b>; put %h<a> 14:44
camelia MoarVM panic: Memory allocation failed; could not allocate 64 bytes
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moritz m: my %a = a => 1; my %b = b => 2; %a ,= %b; say %a.perl 14:48
camelia {:a(1), :b(2)}
moritz m: my $a = {a => 1}; my $b = {b => 2}; $a ,= $b; say $a.perl
camelia (my \List_61638160 = $(List_61638160, ${:b(2)}))
moritz that's a simple way to reproduce 14:49
basically the ,= doesn't flatten the hash, but creates a two-element list, the first of which is itself
alphah hmm 14:50
makes sense now
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moritz more or less 14:51
I'm not sure it's desired behavior
m: my $a = {a => 1}; my $b = {b => 2}; $a = $a, $b; say $a.perl
camelia WARNINGS for <tmp>:
Useless use of $b in sink context (line 1)
${:a(1)}
moritz m: my $a = {a => 1}; my $b = {b => 2}; $a = ($a, $b); say $a.perl
camelia (my \List_73800528 = $(List_73800528, ${:b(2)}))
moritz but I guess it is; the evaluation order thingy is pretty well-tested 14:52
raschipi Couldn't .gist at least return something more descriptive there? 14:55
moritz easier said than done 14:56
(especially if you also want it to be fast)
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timotimo alphah: can you tell us where you found the suggestion to use ,= to merge hashes? 15:18
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alphah timotimo: it was here on the channel, I'll see if I can find it in log 15:22
timotimo irclog.perlgeek.de/perl6/2017-04-12#i_14418748 15:26
it also shows as a way to merge hashes by searching google 15:27
Geth doc: 03e435eb5b | (Brad Gilbert)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | doc/Language/quoting.pod6
Add missing Q adverbs to table
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perlpilot TimToady: If you're feeling generous, #perl wonders why only arrays and scalars interpolate in Perl 5 (and 4). There's speculation that it's because of the printf() formatters (and I guessed that also there was no "natural" way to interpolate keys and values that made sense) 15:31
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perlpilot TimToady: er, to be slightly clearer ... why don't hashes interpolate in double quoted strings? 15:33
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Add note that ｢｣ cannot be swapped to Q// in regexes
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TimToady perlpilot: mostly just because it interfered with printf, but also because the use case is weak, and we hadn't thought of requiring some kind of subscript as we did in p6 15:45
there's never only one reason for anything in Perl :) 15:46
timotimo alphah: can't find it easily, what were your keywords? 15:47
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TimToady timotimo: didn't you see the link? 15:51
oh, you were asking about the line after, nevermind 15:52
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timotimo yup :) 15:53
alphah: there's a difference between what you linked to and what you tried
your hashes are items inside another hash, i expect 15:54
and putting two items together with , makes things not flatten
alphah searching in google shows this at first page stackoverflow.com/questions/350018/...es-in-perl and I guess %hash1 = (%hash1, %hash2) is same as ,=
timotimo m: my %h; %h<a> = { k1 => "v1", k2 => "v2" }; %h<b> = { k2 => "v3", k4 => "v4" }; my %result = %h<a>, %h<b>; say %result.perl
camelia {"k1\tv1\nk2\tv2" => ${:k2("v3"), :k4("v4")}}
timotimo haha
m: my %h; %h<a> = { k1 => "v1", k2 => "v2" }; %h<b> = { k2 => "v3", k4 => "v4" }; my %result = @(%h<a>), @(%h<b>); say %result.perl 15:55
camelia {"k1\tv1 k2\tv2" => (:k4("v4"), :k2("v3")).Seq}
timotimo m: my %h; %h<a> = { k1 => "v1", k2 => "v2" }; %h<b> = { k2 => "v3", k4 => "v4" }; say %h.perl; my %result = @(%h<a>), @(%h<b>); say %result.perl
camelia {:a(${:k1("v1"), :k2("v2")}), :b(${:k2("v3"), :k4("v4")})}
{"k1\tv1 k2\tv2" => (:k4("v4"), :k2("v3")).Seq}
timotimo m: my %h; %h<a> = { k1 => "v1", k2 => "v2" }; %h<b> = { k2 => "v3", k4 => "v4" }; my %result = flat %h<a>.list, %h<b>.list; say %result.perl
camelia {:k1("v1"), :k2("v3"), :k4("v4")}
alphah Actually what I'm trying to do is: I have two grammars, 1 grammar pasrse a config file and cretae a hash of configs, second grammar parses command line args, and I need to merge these two hashes into one hash
timotimo oh, what did you want keys existing in both hashes to do?
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alphah in case duplicates keys, the second hash overwrites the first hash 15:57
timotimo m: my %h; %h<a> = { k1 => "v1", k2 => "v2" }; %h<b> = { k2 => "v3", k4 => "v4" }; %h<a> <<=<< %h<b>; say %h.perl
camelia {:a(${:k1("v1"), :k2("v3"), :k4("v4")}), :b(${:k2("v3"), :k4("v4")})}
timotimo m: my %h; %h<a> = { k1 => "v1", k2 => "v2" }; %h<b> = { k2 => "v3", k4 => "v4" }; %h<a> <<=<< %h<b>; say %h<a>.perl 15:58
camelia ${:k1("v1"), :k2("v3"), :k4("v4")}
timotimo more like that
that looks right, doesn't it?
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alphah looks right, will test on my code... 15:59
timotimo it probably descends into substructures 16:00
alphah I remeber, I tried that earlier,, it works in some cases, and in other cases it throws error regarding left side or right side values,, one is bigger than the other
timotimo so if any configured things are lists, better see how that influences things 16:01
alphah i'll try to reproduce the error
it was something like this (can not reproduce it now thugh): 16:07
Lists on either side of non-dwimmy hyperop of infix:<=> are not of the same length while recursing
left: 2 elements, right: 1 elements
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timotimo did you write >>=<<? 16:08
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alphah i wrote <<=<< 16:08
timotimo interesting, this might be a bug in the implementation of hyper, then
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alphah just to be clear, not in the above code, I got this error earlier in my code, when change the config file contents (which get parsed by a grammar) 16:10
timotimo mhm, if you get that error again, you could output the .perl (or even .&to-json from JSON::Fast) both hashes beore attempting the merge
then clean up any strings with sensitive data and put it up somewhere for us to see
alphah will do 16:11
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grondilu I was trying to golf FFT on RC. I got a neat short code that was just slightly inaccurate. Turns out I had to tweak &cis to make it better: paste.debian.net/928234/ 18:03
relevant part is:
sub my-cis($a) { $a < 0 ?? -cis($a + pi) !! cis($a) }
m: say cos(pi/4) + cos(pi + pi/4)
camelia -1.11022302462516e-16
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grondilu m: say cos(pi/4) - cos((pi + pi/4) % pi) 18:04
camelia 0
grondilu seems a bit LTA imgo 18:05
*imho
basically I'm wondering if trigonometric functions could not use symmetric properties explicitely 18:06
though it seems no programming language seems to do it. 18:09
timotimo that'd be a little crazy :)
grondilu "crazy" sounds a bit harsh 18:10
slightly overkill, maybe
geekosaur you're ore in the realm of stuff like mathematica here 18:11
*more
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grondilu I dunno 18:11
not really
geekosaur or numerical methods libraries
which aren't the default because they tend to be slower 18:12
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grondilu It bugs me that I have a shorter program for FFT but I can't use it because cis(x) is not exactly -cis(x + pi) :/ 18:13
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grondilu m: proto my-cos($) {*}; multi my-cos($x where * < 0) { my-cos(-$x) }; multi my-cos($x where $x > tau) { my-cos($x % tau) }; multi my-cos($x) { cos($x) }; say my-cos(pi/4) - my-cos(pi/4 + pi) 18:19
camelia 1.4142135623731
grondilu failed, nvm 18:20
could be done with polymorphism though: paste.debian.net/928235/ 18:43
grondilu tries it in Real.pm and recompiles rakudo
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sjn \o 18:48
raschipi heya
sjn is getting a fail during the configuration step when rebuilding moar (I'm upgrading from an older version using rakudobrew) 18:49
has there been any important changes there lately? 18:50
geekosaur does it mention libtommath?
sjn would prefer not to nuke stuff
gfldex moarvm does need a `make distclean` every now and then
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azawawi iH 18:52
geekosaur olleH 18:54
azawawi :)
gfldex ıɐɥo
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timotimo how long is the tommath thing going to follow me around ;_; 19:03
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sjn geekosaur: yeah, there's a libtommath warning there 19:11
geekosaur foreverrrrrrrr 19:12
anyway, "someone" oopsed with libtommath and you need to remove it from the local git reference and let it be re-downloaded 19:13
sjn ook
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sjn does that 19:13
geekosaur (or possibly just nuke ~/.rakudobrew and start over, which I do every so often because it doesn't do useful things like track tags so when a new version is tagged it doesn;t notice and reports itself as an older version) 19:14
sjn hm. is there a sane way to record which modules have been installed and then reinstall those?
(after nuking moar, that is) 19:15
geekosaur that I don't know
sjn possible a question for #perl6-toolchain 19:17
possibly*
RabidGravy sjn, see App::ModuleSnap in the ecosystem, it is precisely for trhat 19:20
obviously you have to install and run it before nuking everything 19:21
sjn \o/ 19:22
well, that one didn't seem to work 19:28
RabidGravy in what way? 19:35
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RabidGravy haha, just tested it, okay 19:39
one minute 19:40
sjn getting a "Type 'META6' is not declared" error
when running p6-module-snapshot
RabidGravy yes, just fixing
sjn sweet
eater d'aww //= is a thing but =// isn't :( 19:41
jnthn eater: R 19:42
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jnthn If you want to reverse the argument order, anyway :) 19:43
eater jnthn: what do you mean?
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jnthn I'm assuming you wanted to test the RHS for definedness instead of the left? 19:44
If not, I don't know what you want
gfldex m: my $v; 55 R//= $v;
camelia ===SORRY!===
Cannot find method 'ann' on object of type NQPMu
jnthn m: my $v; 55 [R//]= $v; 19:45
camelia Cannot modify an immutable Int
in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1
jnthn m: my $v; 55 R[//]= $v;
camelia ===SORRY!===
Cannot find method 'ann' on object of type NQPMu
jnthn Hmm...darn
eater I wanted to do A =// B, if B is defined do assign to a
jnthn I thought that would work
eater d'aww :')
jnthn But yeah, that R thing should do it
RabidGravy sjn, should be fixed now 19:46
jnthn In theory :)
sjn :d
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eater jnthn: any documentation on that, my Moar is just telling me Im doing it wrong :') 19:49
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Zoffix .tell El_Che you're good for packages. 2017.04.2 is out 19:52
yoleaux Zoffix: I'll pass your message to El_Che.
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eater oh 19:52
because I'm doing it wrong
jnthn: Thanks it works :D 19:53
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b2gills m: my $v; 55 R[R[//]]= $v; say $v; # That doesn't seem right 19:55
camelia 55
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sjn wishes that perl6 could offer a warning when people are using unnecessary convoluted programming constructs... "WARNING: Possible future headache and/or homicide reason detected" 19:57
raschipi It does provide enough rope to hang oneself. 20:00
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sjn is more worried about the people who come later and have to rummage through the rotting corpses 20:00
perlpilot sjn: perhaps you could write a module that implements that functionality 20:01
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sjn perlpilot: maybe I will (just waiting for DrForr's linter^H^H^H^H^H^Hparser to become good enough for it :D ) 20:03
samcv my job limits are still exceeding the time limit 20:04
and i split it into 20 sections, to install all the eco modules 20:05
moritz run 'em on hack? 20:06
samcv yeah. i should
that's www.p6c.org?
moritz hack.p6c.org 20:07
samcv oh
i don't have an account there then. only at www.p6c.org
moritz you do
samcv oh ok
moritz at least there's a /home/samcv :-)
and a user of that name
samcv ok i'm connected :) 20:08
yay cpu's
though idk if zef can do parallel testing for bulids
gfldex samcv: zef itself is basically a set of modules. Shouldn't be to hard to make many things happen at the same time with it. 20:11
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dominix hi there. 20:20
I am looking for damian conway perl6 module Quantum::Computation
gfldex m: say „ohai dominix!“;
camelia ohai dominix!
dominix aloha ! 20:21
moritz dominix: Damian doesn't seem to have published it on modules.perl6.org/ :( 20:22
which means I have no idea where to find it
[Coke] eco: Wuantum
eco: Quantum
moritz modules.perl6.org/#q=quantum
[Coke] thank you moritz-bot!
dominix: where did you hear about it? 20:23
timotimo but that isn't dconway's module
dominix he is talking about it in his famous talk "On The Shoulders Of Giants" YAPC-NA 2016
so this "may" exists 20:24
moritz yes, he's good at giving talks, but not very good at interacting the community
[Coke] don't see it on cpan, either, or github.
moritz like, following community wide conventions for what you do with your modules, and stuff :-)
timotimo he's hardly got time to hang around here and learn about how we do things 20:25
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timotimo and to be fair, how we do things changes every now and then 20:25
[Coke] eh. it's not surprising to have a module you whipped up for a talk that you didn't quite get to publishing. I can't give him crap for that, moritz.
moritz [Coke]: did I give him crap for it? 20:26
sjn Hm... is Task::Star still someting people use? It seems zef is having trouble installing it
gfldex sjn: known issue, will be resolved soon 20:27
sjn ah, ok
timotimo yeah we haven't done a star release in a while, so the modules aren't really up to snuff
sjn sees ufo is there (does anyone still use that?) 20:28
moritz sjn: not really
sjn thought so
timotimo i'm also not sure if the list of modules inside star and Task::Star have been kept in sync 20:29
dominix I have been an heavy user of Parse::Recdescent very usefuul to me 20:32
the talk www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nq2HkAYbG5o 20:33
[Coke] moritz: yes, that's how I read the "not very good" comment. 20:38
TEttinger huh, I thought quantum was related to the superposition stuff that would later be called junctions 20:39
timotimo TEttinger: nah, it's a bit different still 20:42
raschipi Boolean superposition is different from Quantum Superposition. 20:43
perlpilot dominix: oh, just extract the module from the slides ;-> 20:46
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dominix perlpilot: he didn't show the content ... 20:49
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sjn RabidGravy: seems p6-module-snapshot ignores --directory 20:49
moritz [Coke]: ah, the fun not being a native language speaker. For me, "not very good" is far away from "terrible", for example. Getting the nuances right can be hard for me :/ 20:50
RabidGravy sjn, probably
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TEttinger moritz: double-plus ungood 20:52
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moritz TEttinger: nah, just ungood 20:53
sjn single-plus ungood
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TEttinger half-plus ungood 20:54
sjn moritz: the term you might be looking for is "has room for improvement" :)
understatements <3 20:55
perlpilot [Coke]: I think you read it the right way the first time even if moritz didn't quite mean it that way. Damian is infamous for showing off modules that don't seem to exist in a public space. :)
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Redrield Are there any hacks or workarounds that I need to do in order to get the Padre plugin to install on Windows? 20:56
perlpilot dominix: yeah, but he *described* it, right? Surely you should be able to reverse engineer it ;)
moritz underestimatatemens <3 20:57
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dominix perlpilot: i would love to be able to ... 21:01
Redrield This is my .cpanm/build.log when I try to install the Perl6 plugin hastebin.com/mecuruxije.php
How could I solve this?
perlpilot Redrield: that's probably more of a question for #perl than #perl6 21:03
Redrield Alright
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grondilu learns about "numeric underflow" and is amused 21:07
m: say 10**-304 21:08
camelia 1e-304
grondilu o.O
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grondilu 10**-304 gives me a "Numeric underflow" on my machine 21:09
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TEttinger m: say 10**-305 21:09
camelia 1e-305
TEttinger m: say 10**-1005 21:10
camelia Numeric underflow
in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1

Actually thrown at:
in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1
TEttinger there we go
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grondilu wonders if there is any use of such small numbers anywhere 21:11
perlpilot LHC? 21:12
dominix ok bye 6ers ...
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grondilu perlpilot: I doubt it, not even them. 21:12
perlpilot Just like the 100th or 1000th digit of pi then ... not all that useful :) 21:18
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grondilu btw in the core pi currently has 18 decimals. Is there any particular reason to stop there? 21:28
m: say 18*log(10)/log(2) 21:29
camelia 59.7947057079725
grondilu guesses it's the best accuracy with 64 bits 21:30
timotimo This heloþor.p6 is the example provided in this repo, which you should have cloned or downloaded in the usual way. Check out the use of þ. Cool, isn't it? You can use any other directory instead of /app
This heloþor.p6 is the example provided in this repo, which you should have cloned or downloaded in the usual way. Check out the use of þ. Cool, isn't it? You can use any other directory instead of /app 21:31
... whoops
samcv moritz, hack.p6c.org doesn't have fuse 21:43
also interestingly if you don't have fuse it says that you can use a --appimage-extract option and it'll extract the appimage for you or something. that sounds fancy
so i guess fuse isn't strictly required. just more convenient
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samcv also i don't have the `tee` command X| 21:48
Redrield I can't install the Perl6 plugin for Padre 21:49
samcv i believe you
Padre. is. buggy
Redrield sighs
samcv i would recommend github.com/samcv/Atom-as-a-Perl6-IDE 21:50
Redrield I don't suppose there's a good VSCode Perl6 plugin that's gone under the radar?
samcv these packages with Atom
Redrield I really don't feel like getting atom
samcv please see the link.
:\
Redrield Alrigh
samcv it has the best perl 6 support 21:51
DrForr New post on theperlfisher.blogspot.ro on grammars and metadata.
Redrield Yeah, I just... 21:52
I really don't like Atom
Ah well
samcv it has gotten a lot better than it used to be
and i'm pretty comfortable with those plugins listed on that page 21:53
timotimo i do all my perl6 in vim
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MasterDuke_ vim here too 21:54
samcv somebody should make a PR to atom-nav-panel-plus to add native support in for getting classes/routine/method names on the sid ebar 21:56
without a config file. hmm
similar to how this PR is github.com/0tho/atom-nav-panel-plu...ll/6/files
so we don't have to have a .nav-panel-plus file or whatever 21:57
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samcv oh looks like i hosed my PATH var and that's why i could'nt use any programs. good going /me 22:10
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samcv i still need fuse though 22:21
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samcv nice. ok. well worked around and it now trying to install every module 22:24
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Redrield I was just looking through the examples on the site 22:32
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Redrield Is there an easier way to express infinity other than ∞? 22:32
sjn easier than one character?
Redrield Wrestling with unicode to get it to output isn't a strong suit of mine 22:33
sjn Inf
Redrield So I resort to having to google for it
Alright
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samcv Inf 22:37
m: say Inf === ∞
camelia True
samcv Redrield,
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samcv oh sorry that was said. ignore me 22:37
moritz, so i have www.p6c.org and how do i host a page on like www.p6c.org/samcv or whatever? or is that more work 22:43
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timotimo samcv: i don't think we have a setup for people to put stuff into a place like that 22:48
samcv k
timotimo i can make a user for something like samcv.p6c.org or appimages.p6c.org or so
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timotimo and you can put whatever you want into your ~/public_html on hack.p6c.org and that'll be on hack.p6c.org/~samcv/ 22:49
samcv i want somewhere to put module pass/failing conditions first and forement
since i have a gh-pages for appimages atm
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timotimo are we going to get historic appimages, too? 22:52
samcv this isn't about appimages just modules and if they pass or fail and their build logs 22:54
but. are we? sure
like for every release of rakudo?
or what?
though still really need a command line flag to chdir before trying to access variables profided on command line to perl 6. ugh 22:55
timotimo not every
just back a few releases
samcv then everything will be good. and appimages will be exactly the same as the normal 22:56
yeah sure
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timotimo have we tried giving moarvm a commandline switch like that? 22:56
samcv nope. that is one way maybe
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samcv that is fine by me though. and would be very nice 22:56
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samcv but i mean. the path has to be correct in rakudo when it's doing precomp and other things. since they're relative. so idk 22:59
if we change it in moarvm before loading the bytecode? won't that be equivilant to chdiring into the users CWD it (which breaks it)
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samcv timotimo, we could try it and see what happens i guess :P 23:16
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samcv timotimo, nice. i just fixed nqp::chdir 23:19
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samcv from chdir failed: Unknown system error 2 >> chdir failed: no such file or directory 23:19
was looking at the function and noticed some weirdness
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samcv timotimo, well it works fine in my own perl6 but we will see what happens when i try using it when everything is relative and see if it doesn't vomit 23:35
if it doesn't vomit i will be very very happy
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samcv timotimo, yeah no dice. 23:46
it has to happen after perl6.moarvm is loaded
timotimo oh crap 23:47
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samcv Unhandled exception: While looking for 'ModuleLoader.moarvm': no such file or directory 23:48
and that's if i put it right before perl6.morvm and give a full path to perl6.moarvm (which i would be able to do in the shell script fine)
so this is not going to solve it
at least i fixed something in MoarVM tho 23:49
timotimo mhyes
samcv nice. it's exactly the same number of lines. including the header file 23:50
plus i added a new function
heh
and it works
which is most important. not unknown system error bleh
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samcv i'm gonna take a tap 23:55
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