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lookatme morning 00:23
eveo looking
lookatme (。・ˍ・。) 00:24
eveo .tell zengargoyle your module issue is now fixed
yoleaux eveo: I'll pass your message to zengargoyle.
eveo huggable: donate 00:25
huggable eveo, We invite you to make a donation to The Perl Foundation to sponsor Perl 6 development: donate.perlfoundation.org/
eveo ;)
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llfourn I can't travel to the US and do my TPC talk on my Perl 6 project :'( 😢 02:43
The DHS has denied my ESTA application because I went backpacking in Iran for two weeks in 2013 02:44
sad sad times.
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lookatme :\ 03:02
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samcv :( 06:03
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llfourn applies to talk to TPC-EU instead 06:10
samcv not sure if i'm going to go to TPC-EU and give a talk. never given a talk before though :P 06:11
a little nervous
llfourn samcv: I think today is the last day of proposals 06:15
samcv is it? 06:16
who do i talk to
llfourn act.perlconference.org/tpc-2017-amsterdam/
description: act.perlconference.org/tpc-2017-ams...apers.html 06:17
do it! :)
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samcv :) i should heh 06:18
thing is what to talk about. and make it interesting and useful for programmings. cause i could ramble for a long time about random unicode things that people may not care about :P 06:19
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llfourn samcv: I think I low level MoarVM strings thing would be cool 06:21
how to match the fast while keeping the encoding-less representation 06:22
or however it works (I don't even know that's why I'm interested :P)
how to do matches fast* 06:23
samcv like regex? 06:24
llfourn yeah like how are strings represented in MoarVM and what are the challenges of doing matching/searching etc 06:25
samcv yeah would be cool to talk about the improvements i did to regex with unicode. ignorecase and ignorecase+ignoremark as well :)
llfourn yeah!
samcv i keep thinking i'm not doing that much. then occasionally remember that i've done very important things :| 06:26
feels like i've done less until i actually write it all down and read it lol
llfourn would be good to hear about them seeing as we don't see them as high level language constructs 06:27
samcv yeah
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samcv cool. yeah i'm not sure exactly what is interesting to people :P i know it was interesting to me at least heh. 06:27
llfourn samcv: as a user of perl6 I wonder about immutablility of strings as well 06:31
samcv they are immutable on the MoarVM level 06:32
llfourn so if I do "foo".substr(1) does that create a new string "oo" in memory or just give me a view of the original string
samcv when you change a my Str $stringy = 'hi'; $stringy = 'foo'; you're just setting a different string to be stored in the scalar
it creates a new string 06:33
llfourn ah ok
samcv almost certain at least… don't remember something super fancy like having strings inside other strings :P
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samcv let me check :P 06:34
llfourn I would have guessed that it creates a new one but since they're immutable I thought there could be some optimization that just gives you a high level view of a section of the same bit of memory
are strings even stored in contiguous memory? 06:35
samcv there are things called strands, basically strings get based up of multiple substrings, chained together
lookatme Will there has something like Copy-on-Write ? 06:36
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samcv one thing for optimization that is planned idk when. but to be able to search throug hstrings without folding the strands but right now it folds them before it does regex on it 06:36
llfourn mm these types of things would be really interesting to me in a talk 06:37
(not that I speak for everything)
everyone*
samcv at actually
subst doesn't make a new string
it makes a strand
llfourn do you mena substr? 06:38
samcv yep
llfourn ah k cool
samcv so it's a view of the other string
llfourn ahh awesome
samcv also uh there's optimizations when you do repititions too 06:39
llfourn because I use it in my grammar while parsing to make a .substr of the .orig often and if it were copying memory it would be terrible but it seems ok
samcv if you try and substr a repitition it collapses the strands coping them
*copying
yeah i'm sure hah
idk did i do a blog about my change to case insensitive regex. i think i did 06:40
well. actually non-case insensitive too. i changed that to use memmem which has string search algorithms and sped it up a lot
case insensitive doesn't have that since it's can't just search for one section of memory (needle) inside another (haystack) 06:41
llfourn I was wondering about that -- if we use musl libc instead of glibc could that be bad?
samcv oh yeah i did one about case insensitive optimizations i did cry.nu/perl6/indexing-unicode-things/
llfourn for performance in those cases
samcv well. hm 06:42
windows and mac we use freebsd's memmem
llfourn (I am right now building minimal rakudo on alpine linux)
samcv theirs looks like freebsd's memmem
github.com/esmil/musl/blob/master/...g/memmem.c 06:43
and looks like it's compatible with glibc's way of sourcing it
with _GNU_SOURCE
with glibc you have to define _GNU_SOURCE to be able to use memmem because it's not standard. though. i don't like that flag because freebsd libc also has memmem too..
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samcv glibc is kind of pretends they're the only libc that exists 06:44
at times
Xliff samcv++ 06:45
Too true.
And I find this interesting, as well.
samcv gonna compare musl's memmem.c to the freebd one we include
gonna add this to my bulletpoints i'm making for talk :P
are you going to be at the EU conf?
llfourn samcv++ nice. Thanks.
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nebuchadnezzar \o/ I found the blog posts about distribution I was looking for: ugexe.com/perl6-distribution-though...proposals/ and ugexe.com/how-zef-perl6-package-manager-works/ 07:20
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samcv llfourn, can you try installing this github.com/samcv/perl6-Font-QueryInfo before i publish it to ecosystem in a few minutes 07:36
want to make sure it passes all tests on another system
llfourn samcv: rgr 07:37
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llfourn I found out recently that there's no support for color emojis on Linux distros :( 07:38
samcv it works for me in QupZilla 07:39
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llfourn ah is that the mozilla thing? 07:39
samcv nope
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samcv it's my preferred browser now. light weight but has all the features i need 07:40
llfourn ah it's a browser -- yeah I mean like in my terminal
lookatme `PERL6LIB=lib prove --exec=perl6 t/` : PASS on fedora 25
llfourn like gnome terminal or whatever
samcv even has greasemonkey. it uses qtwebengine for rendering
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samcv but is a ton less heavy than chromium since the codebase is way smaller 07:40
all videos play. even supports netflix
llfourn samcv: all tests pass and installed fine
samcv i just discovered it recently
cool :)
has adblock too
llfourn samcv: that sounds pretty handy
samcv yeah. install it and give it a whirl. in the settings there's extensions you can enable. 07:41
it's the only non-standard browser which has all the features i need and is light weight. looks great
adblock. greasemonkey scripts for a few sites i have. uhm. even has a tree tab manager you can enable. 07:42
llfourn samcv: it has its own JS engine?
samcv it uses chromium's backend. but only certain parts. like the js engine and such 07:43
llfourn cool
samcv i'm super impressed with it. was 5x better than i had hoped :)
you installing it?
what distro do you have 07:44
llfourn I will install it on my linux-mint laptop :)
right now on my imac
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parv llfourn, samcv: when you installed qupzilla, was it still built with dbus? 08:29
llfourn parv: I've yet to install it :) 08:30
parv freebsd package is compiled by default with dbus. I currently have no qt[45] which qz will pull in.
llfourn: oh! sorry to bother you then.
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samcv parv, yeah it requires qt5 because it uses qtwebengine as a backend. you don't have qt5? 08:42
parv samcv: i have no qt of any vintage yet. (FreeBSD has the packages & ports for bith qt4 & qt5) 08:43
s/both/bith/
nope, nope. that's not how that works! (BAKA!) 08:44
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Geth ecosystem: samcv++ created pull request #347:
Add Font::QueryInfo		 09:42
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zengargoyle zomg! blog.plover.com/math/telugu.html 10:07
yoleaux 00:24Z <eveo> zengargoyle: your module issue is now fixed
zengargoyle Base-4 fractions in Telugu 10:08
.tell eveo yay, thanks much. 10:09
yoleaux zengargoyle: I'll pass your message to eveo.
Geth ecosystem: a17052d375 | (Samantha McVey)++ | META.list
Add Font::QueryInfo
 10:13
ecosystem: 11f66d6d1a | Altai-man++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | META.list
Merge pull request #347 from samcv/Font-QueryInfo

Add Font::QueryInfo
llfourn samcv: is it possible to use that to tell if the font supports color emojis? 10:15
or to tell which emojis it supports
m: say "\c[SQUID]" # for example
camelia 🦑 10:16
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samcv llfourn, idk 10:25
llfourn samcv: kay :) 10:26
samcv llfourn, do you have Noto Color Emoji instaled? 10:27
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llfourn samcv: I'm using OS X for now 10:27
samcv ah 10:28
does OS X have fc-scan
llfourn yup
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llfourn I suppose the best way is just to check the platform and guess 10:30
given that linux doesn't support color emojis in any terminals yet
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llfourn ah no someone seems to have got Noto Color emoji working on arch: github.com/googlei18n/noto-emoji/issues/36 10:36
samcv u: butterfly
unicodable6 samcv, U+1F98B BUTTERFLY [So] (🦋)
samcv works for me in qupzilla
i'm not on arch. but I have Noto Color Emoji installed 10:37
doesn't work in my irc program but works there
llfourn yeah I'm interested in terminal emulators only pretty much
samcv ah 10:40
zengargoyle wonders if there's an atom based terminal yet. :) 10:44
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llfourn zengargoyle: does atom support emoji? 10:45
(color emoji builtin is what I mean)
zengargoyle i thought atom was basically a web browser that's been turned into a node application wrapper. seems likely that it would support anything any other web browser does. 10:46
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llfourn I think it's based on electron which is node but I dunno if it has chrome components in it 10:47
zengargoyle hasn't tried anything atom based. just idly pondering.
yeah probably meant electron, atom is just the editor right? 10:49
llfourn electron is some way of building graphical things in node I think
zengargoyle i think the graphics part is that it's basically just a browser engine (chromium or webkit or something) doing the rendering. and full blown node instead of just a js interpreter. 10:51
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rightfold m: my $걸 = 1 10:52
camelia ( no output )
llfourn zengargoyle: sounds probable
rightfold m: my $يتي = 1
camelia ( no output )
zengargoyle if they can make an editor, somebody might eventually write a terminal. (my thinking)
rightfold m: my $i-am-dutch = „Hallo, wereld!” 10:53
camelia ( no output )
llfourn zengargoyle: hyper.is/ # this? 10:54
rightfold m: my $i-am-french = «Bonjour, le monde !»
camelia ( no output )
rightfold m: my $i-am-french = «Bonjour, le monde !»; $i-am-french.perl.say 10:55
camelia $("Bonjour,", "le", "monde", "!")
rightfold >:(
llfourn zengargoyle: I'll check if it does emojis on linux. Thanks for imagining it into existence.
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zengargoyle bah, b/w emoji (at least from cut-n-paste from browser). 11:00
llfourn :( 11:01
maybe there's a way of changing it's font?
zengargoyle maybe a plugin or something, yeah, or config.
llfourn zengargoyle: hyper.is/
check it out 11:02
"fontFamily"
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pmurias zengargoyle: electron is the node.js+displaying-stuff-on-chrome that atom uses 11:32
pmurias needs to try using rakudo.js with electron
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Ven o/ 11:35
yoleaux 18 Mar 2017 14:31Z <IOninja> Ven: the contributors tool uses "ven" for, I assume, you. Probably needs more fields for you in the CREDITS file, unless you wanted to go as ven?
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Guest35387 well, the bigger issue is that I had 3s after login to get this message... 11:35
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pmurias \o 11:35
Ven`` .tell IOninja that's "weird", I assumed it'd use vendethiel, my github nickname? 11:36
yoleaux Ven``: I'll pass your message to IOninja.
Ven`` pmurias: amazing work on the JS backend :D.
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Ven`` I recently realized you worked on some common lisp backend ~5 years ago? 11:36
I think it was on niecza 11:37
pmurias yes, it was a project for uni for our common lisp class ;) 11:38
Ven`` you had a common lisp class? sounds cool. seems like it didn't survive afterwards? 11:39
.oO( clearly we should bring method combinations to Perl 6 )
pmurias Ven``: the class sucked pretty badly from what I remember, students where presenting stuff about common lisp and there where presentations like "here are all the maths functions" 11:41
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Ven`` pmurias: Ah. That's too bad, I think it could really be interesting... 11:41
trying to get my school to add a lisp class sounds like a challenge. 11:42
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pmurias Ven``: the common lisp backend as far as I remember was pretty fast for some things, but the whole common lisp ecosystem/libraries didn't seem that interesting for Perl 6 to integrate with 11:48
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Ven`` oh, no, I understand what you mean. a lot of it is cffi... it's just a "woo lisp" stupid feeling :-) 11:49
pmurias hopefully we will be able to mix closurescript with perl 6 soon 11:54
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zengargoyle i think modules.perl6.org/todo/zengargoyle is going a bit wonky. i made sure to put tags in META and add a MANIFEST file over the past few days. my modules dissapear from the todo page, then re-appear with the "dist has no MANIFEST" warning. they most certainly do have a MANIFEST. the 'view build log' doesn't give any clue. it's just like on one run they pass clean and the next they get a 11:55
warning.
Ven`` pmurias: I'm really interested in getting to use the nice cljs libs (react-like stuff and others) in p6 11:59
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camelia 5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>
Unable to parse expression in single quotes; couldn't find final "'"
at <tmp>:1
------> 3it::Repository::Installable)>>.installed7⏏5<EOL>
expecting any of:
single quotes
…
Xliff m: $_.map({ $_.meta<provides>.keys.say }) if $_ ~~ Seq for $*REPO.repo-chain.grep(CompUnit::Repository::Installable)>>.installed 12:00
camelia (Inline::Perl5)
(Pod::To::Text NativeCall::Types experimental newline NativeCall::Compiler::GNU NativeCall::Compiler::MSVC NativeCall CompUnit::Repository::Staging Test)
Xliff YES!
Ven`` I mean, I guess you can somewhat interface P6 with clojure itself via the jvm (... and common lisp via ABCL), but I know a lot of people waiting for p6 in the browser
Xliff Will Qupzilla install for Debian? 12:05
Answer: YES! 12:07
"OpenGL Warning: glXCreatePbuffer not implemented by Chromium" -- SOB! 12:08
I will have to dual boot to the Debian side instead of using the VM
eater m: $*OUT.encoding: Nil; 12:18
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eater bisect: $*OUT.encoding: Nil;
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eater :( 12:21
did I break it
lizmat naughty naughty :-)
samcv is there a way to create non string value keys with the %( ) 12:22
:%( ) and %:( ) don't work. i want :{ } except with %( ) syntax
jnthn samcv: No
samcv should there be?
jnthn Why not use :{ ... }
% is a conextalizer, not a hash literal 12:23
It's primary purpose is for turning something else into a hash, not as a way of writing one
samcv i know. well %( ) is better than { } since it won't accidently create a block. so i was wondering if there was something like %( ) but would allow non string keys
timotimo Hash[Any,Any].new(...) maybe? 12:24
jnthn Does :{...} ever fall back to creating a block?
timotimo i don't think it can, though
m: say :{ $_ }
camelia -> ;; $_? is raw { #`(Block|48337688) ... }
timotimo well, i'm wrong :) 12:25
samcv yep
llfourn learns that :{ ... } is a thing
lizmat m: dd :{} 12:26
camelia :{}
lizmat hmmm
samcv %( ) is the safest way to make a hash imo
Ven`` pmurias: github.com/perl6/nqp/compare/cabe4...921d11R225 12:27
lizmat fwiw, I'm not sure :{} is such a good thing to have. It overloads : with YAT
samcv i would be inclined to agree 12:28
m: " { 'abc' => '123' } ".EVAL.say
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samcv evalable6, " { 'abc' => '123' } ".EVAL.say 12:29
[Coke] 265 open doc issues
samcv m: " { 'abc' => '123' } ".EVAL.say # OUTPUT Undeclared routine:
abc used
camelia 5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling /home/camelia/EVAL_0
Undeclared routine:
abc used at line 1. Did you mean 'abs'?
samcv heh
m: " %( 'abc' => '123' ) ".EVAL.say 12:30
camelia {abc => 123}
samcv this works fine
%( ) is obviously superior :)
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samcv oh. my bad. interpolation 12:31
but also it's still better :P
i need to go to bed...
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samcv also { } is slower than %( ) 12:33
Geth doc: e36f5aae61 | (Jan-Olof Hendig)++ | xt/code.pws
Added missing words

Fixes #1375
samcv by a tiny bit
15% slower using EVAL
[Coke] dogbert17++
samcv night everyone! bed & 12:34
Xliff Ah. Upgrading debian can be such fun. 12:35
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timotimo nuke it from orbit, build it fresh 12:41
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perlawhirl m: my $a=DateTime.now;my $b=DateTime.new('2012-02-29T12:34:56Z');my $c=DateTime.new('2012-02-29T12:34:56.789Z');($a,$b,$c).map(*.second.^name).say 12:47
camelia (Num Int Rat)
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perlawhirl I know there's *.whole-second.... but that seems wrong 12:47
tyil Xliff: just switch to gentoo 12:50
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araraloren evening 12:52
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Xliff timotimo: Why do you h8 me? ;p 12:54
til: You too! :P
s/til/tyil/
And that... means bedtime for me
tyil gentoo is less pain than debian :>
Xliff Hrm.
Mebbe.
But I think my problems stems more from VirtualBox than debian.
tyil oh
Xliff yah
tyil use qemu
;) 12:55
Xliff :P
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Xliff <whine>But I have mostly tamed this Debian....</whine> 12:55
timotimo memories of revdep rebuild
Xliff I don't know if VMs will port. I highly doubt it.
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tyil stay positive 12:55
Xliff However, I may try it. 12:56
tyil thats important when doing sysadmin
Xliff I know. I know.
But this is my home box. I get to be frustrated.
tyil use funtoo then, its less prone to breaking and will give you a debian kernel
precompiled
i.e.: a kernel that works for most things by default
Xliff I'm finding it hard to take a distro called "funtoo" seriously.
tyil :p
Xliff *giggle*
timotimo fork it and build "untoo" 12:57
Xliff LOL
tyil Funtoo is a spin-off from Gentoo by Gentoo's creator
Xliff Does Funtoo speak apt?
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tyil cant find apt in the repos 12:58
there's yum and pacman, but apparently apt was too shit :'3
Xliff :P
Oh ghod. Another source based package manager.
I've had enough of that with FreeBSD
tyil freebsd has a binary one too tho
sabayon is gentoo with binary packages 12:59
Xliff Yeees. I know. ;p
tyil but it also comes with systemd
mst if you don't like source code, I recommend windows 10
Xliff If I really wanted to squeak every last drop out of the bare metal. I'd do it.
tyil mst: watch your language pls
this is a friendly channel
Xliff mst: :P~~~~~~~~~
tyil++
mst tyil: please learn to spell please, this is a language channel
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tyil should make a perl bot to keep track of nick++ scores :p 13:00
mst: a friendly language channel then?
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Xliff A meaningless but fun exercise. 13:00
mst generally, yes, right up until you failed to get the joke :D
huh
tyil :(
make easier jokes pls
Xliff tyil: Pay no attention to mst. He's a grump.
tyil so am I most of the time 13:01
:>
mst apparently all the karma handling infrastructure is only on #perl
Xliff heh
tyil but perl 6 has made my life better
now I'm happy and got a gf, all thanks to perl 6
11/10 would recommend to my friends
Xliff And I am !sleep, so I'm probably no better.
tyil Xliff: gn m8
Xliff nn
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mst I'm sure zoffix will write seven bots to do it one weekend 13:02
tyil hot 13:03
is there a decent perl 6 syntax plugin for vim?
[Coke] tyil - there IS a syntax plugin. I haven't used it lately. 13:04
tyil sweet
can I get a link?
[Coke] tyil: github.com/vim-perl/vim-perl 13:05
tyil atom is fun and all but its terribly slow
and I only have 16gb ram
[Coke] oops, it was split: github.com/vim-perl/vim-perl6
tyil ah
that explains, i already had vim-perl
araraloren have you tried vscode 13:06
eater should 'hex' be an acceptable encoding? in Str.encode and Blob.decode? 🤔
tyil isnt that just atom reskinned by microshit?
eater vscode is pretty ok 13:07
tyil pls no cursing
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[Coke] is confused by tyil telling himself not to curse. 13:07
tyil Ive tried many editors, but vim always comes out on top 13:08
araraloren :) yeah, that why I love emacs
s/that/that's/
llfourn eater: hex isn't a character encoding - you'd have to encode as utf8 and then print out the hex 13:09
(as far as my understand of these things go)
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eater yeah true 13:10
so we need an Blob.encode and Str.decode
for hex and base64
this isn't gonna be confusing at all
tyil araraloren: emacs isnt too bad tbh 13:13
Ven`` tyil: nah it's not reskinned, it's their own
tyil especially with evil
Ven`` most people I know prefer vscode to atom because of typing speed. I enjoy spacemacs a lot
tyil Ven``: due to microsofts history with products in general, I highly doubt it'll be able to compete with vim 13:14
I remember them making their own shell
llfourn m: "foo".encode("utf8").map(*.fmt("%02x")).join.say 13:15
camelia 666f6f
Ven`` tyil: what you consider makes a good editor is different from what a lot of people do :-) 13:18
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Geth doc: 876afdcd50 | (Jan-Olof Hendig)++ | xt/code.pws
Add another word

Closes #1381		 13:23
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travis-ci Doc build errored. Jan-Olof Hendig 'Added missing words 13:23
travis-ci.org/perl6/doc/builds/243244886 github.com/perl6/doc/compare/9dbb4...6f5aae615f
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eater llfourn: what about the other way around? 13:27
llfourn eater: regex :P 13:28
actually.. 13:29
m: "666f6f".comb.rotor(2).map(*.Int.chr).say
camelia ( )
llfourn m: "666f6f".comb.rotor(2).map(*.join.Int.chr).say
camelia Cannot convert string to number: trailing characters after number in '036⏏5f' (indicated by ⏏)
in whatevercode at <tmp> line 1
in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1
llfourn m: "666f6f".comb.rotor(2).map({ "0x" ~ .join.Int.chr}).say 13:30
camelia Cannot convert string to number: trailing characters after number in '036⏏5f' (indicated by ⏏)
in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1
llfourn m: "666f6f".comb.rotor(2).map({ "0x" ~ .join).Int.chr}).say
camelia 5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>
Missing block
at <tmp>:1
------> 03666f6f".comb.rotor(2).map({ "0x" ~ .join7⏏5).Int.chr}).say
expecting any of:
statement end
statement modifier
statement modi…
llfourn m: "666f6f".comb.rotor(2).map({ ("0x" ~ .join).Int.chr}).say
camelia (f o o)
llfourn :)
eater that string concat hurts 13:31
llfourn maybe there's any easier way?
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moritz what are you trying to do? 13:31
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moritz oh 13:32
llfourn moritz: turn the string "66" into f
moritz :16($_)
llfourn m: say :16(66)
camelia This call only converts base-16 strings to numbers; value 66 is of type Int, so cannot be converted!
in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1
moritz m: say :16('66').chr
camelia f
llfourn moritz++
eater m: say "666f6f".comb.rotor(2).map({ :16(.join) })>>.chr
camelia (f o o)
eater oh
moritz: was faster 13:33
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moritz m: say "666f6f".comb(2).map({ :16($_).chr}) 13:36
camelia (f o o)
eater well 13:37
time to go home
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eater moritz++ 13:37
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travis-ci Doc build errored. Jan-Olof Hendig 'Add another word 14:13
travis-ci.org/perl6/doc/builds/243261326 github.com/perl6/doc/compare/e36f5...6afdcd50aa
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atta Hi. How can I interpolate a variable inside a regex, in character class brackets? if "b" ~~ m/ <[abc]> / { say "matches" } this works, but my $var = "abc"; if "b" ~~ m/ <[$var]> / { say "matches" } won't work. 15:17
m: if "b" ~~ m/ <[abc]> / { say "matches" }
camelia matches
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atta m: my $var = "abc"; if "b" ~~ m/ <[$var]> / { say "matches" } 15:17
camelia ( no output )
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jnthn atta: There's no way to do exactly that, though if $var was tweaked to be "<[abc]>" then you could <$var> 15:19
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atta jnthn: Thanks! Maybe I'm complicating things. What I've got is: I have two strings, $var1 = 'abc' and $var2 = 'aqueyrfgc', and I should check if each char in $var2 matches what would be /[$var1]/. I did for $var2.comb(1) -> $char { if $char ~~ m/<[$var1]>/ { say 'matches' } but to no avail 15:35
I just want to check if one string is "inside" another one 15:36
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atta Solved. Just inverted the regex. Easy. $var1 ~~ m/ $char /. 15:40
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rightfold Can I use grammars on lists of tokens or only on strings? 15:51
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[Coke] I think just strings, but @list.join isn't horrible. 17:05
(on moarvm)
(er, it has the potential to not be horrible, I haven't actually looked at the string source because I value my sanity) 17:06
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grondilu Has anyone ever tried to compile MoarVM to webassembly? I can't as I don't have enough RAM. 17:14
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grondilu bought some more, waiting for Amazon delivery 17:16
tadzik how much was not enough? What are you using to build it? 17:22
grondilu I'm using a linux guest on Virtual Box. I could not allocate more than 5.5Go 17:25
weirdly enough, the compilation crashed before the swap was consumed.
Notice that I'm not even talking about compiling MoarVM yet, just the emscripten toolkit. 17:26
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tipdbmp m: my Array[uint64] $a .= new; $a.push(1); 17:51
camelia Type check failed in assignment to ; expected uint64 but got Int (1)
in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1
tipdbmp How do you use typed arrays?
jnthn You need to use array[uint64] since uint64 is a native type 17:53
tipdbmp I see.
jnthn If you declare it `my uint64 @a` it'll automatically pick the correct one for you :)
tipdbmp Thanks. 17:54
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tipdbmp Is it possible to get to the type of an array, i.e: array-sub-type(array[uint64]) => uint64, array-sub-type(Array[Int]) => Int? 18:00
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tipdbmp I suppose I can stringify the array type and extract the sub type, but how can I turn the sub-type string into a type? 18:06
m: my $ty_name = array[uint64].^name; my $a = index($ty_name, '[') + 1; say substr($ty_name, $a, rindex($ty_name, ']') - $a);
camelia uint64
tipdbmp With EVAL, I suppose... 18:09
jnthn .of 18:11
dinner &
tipdbmp Oh, good =).
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Geth doc: 5af4ebd377 | (Jan-Olof Hendig)++ | doc/Language/typesystem.pod6
Updated 'is nodal' doc. [Coke]++, eveo++
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travis-ci Doc build errored. Jan-Olof Hendig 'Updated 'is nodal' doc. [Coke]++, eveo++' 19:04
travis-ci.org/perl6/doc/builds/243370555 github.com/perl6/doc/compare/876af...f4ebd377f9
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moritz m: say 'abcdef' ~~ m:x(3)/./ 19:13
camelia (｢a｣ ｢b｣ ｢c｣)
moritz m: say 'af' ~~ m:x(3)/./
camelia ()
moritz m: say 'abcdef' ~~ m:x(3):ex/..?/
camelia (｢ab｣ ｢a｣ ｢bc｣)
Geth doc: b8cf104d57 | (Jan-Olof Hendig)++ | doc/Language/subscripts.pod6
Mention the 'is default' trait

Closes #934		 19:16
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zengargoyle .tell tadzik i think there's a bug in the modules todo handling. it seems to have 'lost' the fact that i added MANIFEST to my dists (maybe didn't update the cache?) and tells me i have no MANIFEST. 19:55
yoleaux zengargoyle: I'll pass your message to tadzik.
zengargoyle .tell tadzik the 'not having any tags' and one 'no version' warning went away... 19:57
yoleaux zengargoyle: I'll pass your message to tadzik.
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travis-ci Doc build errored. Jan-Olof Hendig 'Mention the 'is default' trait 20:09
travis-ci.org/perl6/doc/builds/243391652 github.com/perl6/doc/compare/5af4e...cf104d57b7
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[Coke] Ugh, Bailador now requires a config file if you want to run on a different port. 20:29
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tadzik fak 20:47
yoleaux 19:55Z <zengargoyle> tadzik: i think there's a bug in the modules todo handling. it seems to have 'lost' the fact that i added MANIFEST to my dists (maybe didn't update the cache?) and tells me i have no MANIFEST.
19:57Z <zengargoyle> tadzik: the 'not having any tags' and one 'no version' warning went away...
tadzik uh-oh
will take a look tomorrw, thanks
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samcv odd there's a proposal on the Unicode mailing list to ban Google from designing emoji. what 21:11
and make them revert back to the old android designs. i don't think they understand how unicode works...
timotimo i love the blob faces google built for android 21:16
Geth Swapped META.info → META6.json in 23 dists in github.com/perl6/ecosystem/commit/f36c9bf71e 21:17
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TEttinger they should ban me from designing emoji. it would be about the same effect 21:29
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eveo samcv: I think I saw @FakeUnicode tweet about that... about Google basically stealing old and ugly versions of OSX emoji 22:01
llfourn: eater: no regex needed to convert a string with numerals in some base to a numeric. You already saw the :16($_) notation and if the base is dynamic too, there's Str.parse-base method 22:02
m: say "Perl6".parse-base: 36
camelia 42679338
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eveo Ven, well, maybe it was some other "ven"? I dunno, just saw it in the generated contributors list. 22:04
zengargoyle thinks eveo and samcv would enjoy blog.plover.com/math/telugu.html (Base-4 fractions in Telugu) because... Unicode.
samcv also i'm accepting suggestions on things on unicode to talk about for the EU perl conf. if anybody wants to speak up so i can add things to my talk 22:05
eveo m: say ౸ + ౹ - ౺ / ౻ - ౼ * ౽ + ౾
camelia 1.333333
eveo It works. That's where my care about it ends pretty much...
samcv: will it include the meme about Perl 6 core devs highfiving each other? :P 22:06
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eveo New blog post: "Perl 6 Release Quality Assurance: Full Ecosystem Toaster": perl6.party/post/Perl-6-Release-Qu...em-Toaster 22:06
samcv oh 22:09
samcv adds that to the list
eveo hah
zengargoyle m: say ౭౹౾౺౾౸ 22:13
camelia 5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>
Bogus postfix
at <tmp>:1
------> 3say ౭7⏏5౹౾౺౾౸
expecting any of:
infix
infix stopper
postfix
statement end
statement modifier…
eveo m: '౭౹౾౺౾౸ '.uniprops.say 22:14
camelia (Nd No No No No No Zs)
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eveo Only the first one can be chained 22:14
zengargoyle we chain ²²²
:P 22:15
zengargoyle just poking fun and enjoying MJD post.
zengargoyle because MJD posts are almost always interesting.
eveo zengargoyle: no, we don't. You can't chain those when writing a numeric literal. 22:16
zengargoyle plus it's Unicde 9 and i doubt we have many Telugu users.
eveo \o 22:18
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zengargoyle ౦౼౽౾ and ౸౹౺౻ are postfix operators. 22:19
digit + base-4 fraction 22:21
zengargoyle wonders what other weirdness is out there.
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zengargoyle should stop poking eveo ... 22:21
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zengargoyle it has come to my attention that eveo is probably Zoffix.... mea culpa. 22:25
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MasterDuke is anybody going to YAPC::NA 2017? i didn't manage to get $work to pay for it, but they might let me count the time as work time. or if not maybe i'll just come down for a dinner if anything like that is going on 22:49
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japhb zengargoyle: Relatively speaking, there are few nicks in the history of this channel that are *not* Zoffix. 23:05
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ugexe dont listen to him, thats zoffixs other username 23:10
sacomo hi #perl6 23:11
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Geth Swapped META.info → META6.json in 1 dists in github.com/perl6/ecosystem/commit/738765d9dd 23:14
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tyil is there an up to date apt repo for ubuntu (16.04) with perl 6 packages? 23:37
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MasterDuke repo no, but packages are available 23:39
huggable: debs
huggable MasterDuke, nothing found
MasterDuke huggable: deb
huggable MasterDuke, CentOS, Debian, Fedora and Ubuntu Rakudo packages: github.com/nxadm/rakudo-pkg/releases
tyil clicks
MasterDuke: thanks 23:40
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MasterDuke np 23:41
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