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6.2.11 released! | pugs.blogs.com | pugscode.org | pugs.kwiki.org | paste: sial.org/pbot/perl6 Set by audreyt on 1 February 2006. |
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| putter | stevan: tunes.org/wiki/Methods_of_Reflection | 01:49 | |
| audreyt: a parser using D: languagemachine.sourceforge.net/ (not quite as nifty as it might seem at first glance - its backtracking is a bit weak - no memory of failed rules - backtracked to some state, if nothing has changed, it will retry the same rule that just failed) | 01:53 | ||
| dduncan | I just saw the news ... apparently ActiveState is free as a bird again | 01:54 | |
| probably good for anyone that uses their stuff | 01:55 | ||
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| scook0 | audreyt: I'm getting immediate segfaults on a newly-nuked-and-rebuilt pugs | 02:39 | |
| Ubuntu/x86, with default config.yml (except for -O0) | 02:40 | ||
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| putter | scook0: ping? | 03:06 | |
| ?eval 3 | 03:07 | ||
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| evalbot_8949 | 3 | 03:07 | |
| putter | ?eval5 3 | ||
| evalbot_8949 | Error: unexpected "3" expecting operator, postfix conditional, postfix loop, postfix iteration, ";" or end of input | ||
| putter wonders how to talk with the newly joined "p5evalbot" | 03:08 | ||
| scook0: suggest either upgrading to 6.4.1 or editing Makefile.PL to disable readline. | 03:09 | ||
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| xinming | audreyt: ping | 03:28 | |
| ?eval rule ha { <[a..z]+> }; my $s = "test"; $s ~~ s/<ha>//; $s.say | 03:32 | ||
| evalbot_8949 | *** Cannot parse PGE: <ha> *** Error: end of file OUTPUT[test ] bool::true | ||
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| putter | ?eval rule ha { <[a..z]>+ }; my $s = "test"; $s ~~ s/<ha>//; $s.say | 04:26 | |
| evalbot_8949 | OUTPUT[ ] bool::true | ||
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| putter | ?eval rule ha { <[a..z]>**{2} }; my $s = "test"; $s ~~ s/<ha>//; $s.say | 04:27 | |
| evalbot_8949 | OUTPUT[test ] bool::true | ||
| putter | ?eval rule ha { <[a..z]>**{2} }; my $s = "test"; $s ~~ s/<ha>//; $s.say | 04:28 | |
| evalbot_8949 | OUTPUT[test ] bool::true | ||
| putter | hmm. well, that last is working on r8944. but not evalbot_8949. curious. | 04:29 | |
| xinming: but your example fails because of the <[a..z]+> typo. a better error message would be good. but... we probably need better rules infrastructure to do that. | 04:31 | ||
| & | 04:47 | ||
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| txg | Hello, I've heard that in Perl6's regexes $0 will be the first match, but in Perl5 $0 returns your program's name. How do I get my own program's name in Perl 6, then? | 04:55 | |
| anybody? | 04:57 | ||
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| audreyt | txg: $*PROGRAM_NAME | 05:15 | |
| txg: basically, pretend that English.pm is in scope at all times ;) | 05:16 | ||
| audreyt is on a 28.8k dialup -- the situation should improve in a couple hours | |||
| txg | audreyt, thanks!!! | ||
| audreyt | np :) see docs/quickref/var | 05:17 | |
| audreyt reminds herself again that p6doc should include docs/quickref in a saner manner | |||
| putter: re the language machine, looks attractive even just as an excuse to delve into D | 05:18 | ||
| audreyt goes find 1)food 2)better network coverage | 05:19 | ||
| txg | audreyt, btw, is there a more consise "what's new in Perl 6 REGEXES" than the Synopsis #5 ? | ||
| audreyt | txg: sure, as usual | 05:20 | |
| docs/quickref/rules | |||
| stevan | hey audreyt | ||
| audreyt | stevan: yo | ||
| how goes? | |||
| stevan | failry well,.. and you? | ||
| audreyt | pretty well... been making good use of my acm.org account | 05:21 | |
| stevan | :) | ||
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| stevan has been reading and re-reading his metaclass books mostly | 05:21 | ||
| txg | audreyt, thanks! hmm..err... where exactly is "docs/quickref/rules" ? | ||
| audreyt | how's your timeslices looking in the upcoming weeks? | ||
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| audreyt | txg: in the pugs tree | 05:21 | |
| stevan | audreyt: have you seen Class::MOP? | 05:22 | |
| txg | audreyt, oh, got it. I'll download pugs ;) | ||
| audreyt | txg: svn.openfoundry.org/pugs/docs/quickref/rules/ | ||
| no, looking | |||
| txg | or....I'll get this link ;) | ||
| thanks again, audreyt ! | |||
| stevan | well, we have one project at $work, with the threat of possible others,.. | ||
| audreyt | np :) | ||
| stevan: we, wow, amazing | |||
| stevan | so as long as things stay quiet I will have time | ||
| audreyt | s/we/er/ | ||
| cool | 05:23 | ||
| I'll have timeslice about 5 days from now | |||
| have tofinish $job before I go to israel | |||
| I'll definitely check C::MOP out. it looks very versatile | 05:24 | ||
| stevan | ok,.. that will work out well | ||
| audreyt | cool | ||
| I'll go find food then :) | |||
| audreyt waves... bbiab & | |||
| stevan | adiois | ||
| stevan resumes wandering off to sleep & | 05:25 | ||
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| txg | audreyt, Hi! Sorry to bug you again, I just realized that, like $0 and $*PROGRAM_NAME, if $/ is now used to store returned matches, where is the $/ from Perl 5? Gone? | 05:35 | |
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| meppl | guten morgen | 07:53 | |
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| txg | Hi! Anybody home? | 08:34 | |
| I just found out that in perl 6 regexp's the [...] will not define a group of characters anymore. How can I do this (i.e.: define a group of chars to be matched) in Perl 6? | 08:36 | ||
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| txg | <[...]> | 08:37 | |
| got it | |||
| gaal | re: var export. first, I think we shouldn't be using a Perl-accessible node on %*INC to store stuff, because most of the time the stuff we are storing there isn't meaningful to the P6 code. | 08:50 | |
| second, I don't know what to put there for variables, unless it's the TVar itself | |||
| in which case point A is strengthened (this is not something P6land should see) | 08:51 | ||
| but also, the way we arrange for varibles to be created must change, because we need to reduce part of the creation -- enough to call newTVar -- immediately upon parsing | 08:52 | ||
| What is the correct set of possible export providers? | 08:53 | ||
| That is, if I request an import from X, what can X be? | |||
| The global (ugh) store of exportables must be keyed by Xs | 08:54 | ||
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| nothingmuch | audreyt: ping | 09:40 | |
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| masak | ingy: ping | 11:03 | |
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| masak | ingy, I think there is a spelling error in the synopsis of search.cpan.org/~ingy/Perldoc-0.20/...er/Kwid.pm | 11:59 | |
| I got it working by changing "stringref => $html" to "stringref => \$html" | |||
| this is completely the wrong forum, sorry | 12:00 | ||
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| gaal | there's no way to say "next twice", is there? that is, skip not just this iteration in a (say) for, but also the next one? | 12:37 | |
| and: we don't have sub arg pattern matching in pugs yet, do we? | 12:40 | ||
| what holds all the matches? eg, I want the p6 equiv of | 12:54 | ||
| my @animals = $text =~ /(moose|elk|wapiti)/g | 12:55 | ||
| ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ <- part I'm intereseted in | 12:56 | ||
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| gaal | urp, that's supposed to work in p6 according to feather.perl6.nl/~eric256/t_index/t...rl5_g.html (with minor syntactic updates) but it doesn't on my machine | 13:08 | |
| ?eval my $text = "a moose and a wapiti"; my @animals = $text ~~ rx:P5:g/(moose|elk|wapiti)/; @animals | 13:09 | ||
| evalbot_8949 | [Match.new( ok => bool::true, from => 2, to => 7, str => "moose", sub_pos => (), sub_named => {} ), Match.new( ok => bool::true, from => 7, to => 13, str => "wapiti", sub_pos => (), sub_named => {} )] | ||
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| gaal | eep. on my machine that dies; in any case i | 13:10 | |
| 'm not sure this is the right behavior either. | |||
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| meppl | is something like my $object = Foo::$variable.new(...); possible? | 13:49 | |
| nothingmuch | audreyt: ping | 14:02 | |
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| gaal | bsb: ping | 15:25 | |
| audreyt: ping | |||
| bsb | gaal: pong | 15:36 | |
| just got a network connection again | 15:37 | ||
| nothingmuch | uueahfaegta | 15:38 | |
| nothingmuch still has to write all the talks | |||
| *sigh* | |||
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| gaal | well, somebody had to do it | 19:54 | |
| svnbot6 | r8950 | gaal++ | Getopt::Std - simple command-line parsing library | ||
| efunneko | Having problems building pugs - 6.2.11 | 19:55 | |
| Preprocessing library Pugs-6.2.11... | 19:56 | ||
| Setup: got error code while preprocessing: Pugs.Embed.Parrot | |||
| Build failed: 256 at util/build_pugs.pl line 87. | |||
| make: *** [pugs] Error 2 | |||
| Has anyone seen this? | |||
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| gaal | efunneko: can you give some more lines of the output? | 19:58 | |
| if anything looks relevant | |||
| efunneko | Not much else looks relevant. | ||
| I will grab some more ... | 19:59 | ||
| gaal | well, in a pinch, try turning off parrot embedding. | ||
| efunneko | I tried with and without parrot. | ||
| I did see this problem reported in some #perl6 logs from a week ago | |||
| Unfortunately, Audrey just logged into the guys box and it worked for him. Perhaps something with my shell? | 20:00 | ||
| I did have 6.2.9 running previously. | |||
| gaal | what parrot version do you have? | ||
| efunneko | parrot 0.4.1 | 20:01 | |
| gaal | though, come to think of it, it sounds like a problem in the .hsc file, not anything in parrot | ||
| efunneko | Seems that way. I tried to manually run hsc2hs and it didn't seem to have a problem, but this just caused a problem later. | 20:02 | |
| gaal | cpan tarball or head? | 20:04 | |
| efunneko | I actually tried both with the same result | ||
| gaal | hmm. sorry, worksforme and I can't think of anything :( | ||
| efunneko | Separate directories - the svn one had previously built in the 6.2.10 timeframe. | ||
| Would "ghc-pkg: cannot find package plugins" mean anything (prints this when `perl Makefile.PL`) | 20:05 | ||
| gaal | nothing relevant, no. | 20:11 | |
| efunneko | oh well. Thanks for your time. | ||
| gaal | np, ask again later | 20:12 | |
| efunneko | Will do. I will do some reading to try to understand what is failing. | ||
| cognominal | hum, what is pil-n exactly? | 20:13 | |
| gaal | thanks for the repory | ||
| cognominal | it is an intermediate representation? | ||
| gaal | s/y$/t/ | ||
| cognominal: stevan was explaining it here in detail yesterday I think | |||
| cognominal | ok, I will watch my logs | 20:14 | |
| thx | |||
| gaal++ | |||
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| svnbot6 | r8951 | gaal++ | Getopt::Std - skip things that aren't options | 20:45 | |
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| Alias_ | seen audreyt | 21:44 | |
| jabbot | Alias_: audreyt was seen 16 hours 20 minutes 19 seconds ago | ||
| Alias_ | darn | ||
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| gaal | how is s///e spelled now? should s:e/// work in pugs? (it doesn't) | 22:51 | |
| szbalint | I tried, but atm it doesn't work atm | 22:52 | |
| /e is spelled as s/something/{ code() }/ afaik | 22:53 | ||
| gaal | indeed. should it? | ||
| szbalint | according to dev.perl.org | ||
| gaal | ah, right! | ||
| thanks :) | 22:54 | ||
| svnbot6 | r8952 | gaal++ | PPT cat - add options. -v and those that imply it don't currently work. | ||
| szbalint | s/atm$// | 22:55 | |
| gaal | eep! PCRE doesn't grok unicode :-) | 22:56 | |
| /./ bytifies, it seems. | |||
| svnbot6 | r8953 | gaal++ | PPT cat - fix -v somewhat, though PCRE seems to force byte mode :( | 22:57 | |
| r8952 | gaal++ | PPT cat - add options. -v and those that imply it don't currently work. | |||
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| gaal | zzZ & | 22:57 | |
| szbalint | hm | 23:01 | |
| Is it my bad eyes or why did r8952 appear twice? :) | |||
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| xinming | szbalint: where it appears twice? | 23:17 | |
| szbalint | 23:54:22 < svnbot6> r8952 | gaal++ | PPT cat - add options. -v and those that imply it don't currently work. | ||
| 23:57:26 < svnbot6> r8952 | gaal++ | PPT cat - add options. -v and those that imply it don't currently work. | |||
| xinming | szbalint: maybe your ISP is broken. :-) | 23:19 | |
| szbalint: I don't see this here. | |||
| szbalint | weird. | 23:20 | |
| comet^ | I see that too and I'm in a different country. | 23:22 | |
| xinming doesn't know why then. :-/ | 23:23 | ||
| szbalint | Probably just freenode servers playing. :) | 23:26 | |
| bsb | szbalint: I see it twice | 23:27 | |
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