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| mncharity | Had a power outage all day. :/ So nothing done. Back at it tomorrow. | 00:41 | |
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| pugs_svnbot | r20092 | ruoso++ | [smop] updating the sm0p canonical grammar (not the KP6 implementation), so maybe it can be tested with other implementation. | 11:27 | |
| diff: dev.pugscode.org/changeset/20092 | |||
| lambdabot | Title: Changeset 20092 - Pugs - Trac | ||
| ruoso | [particle], sm0p has been implemented in KP6 to make the preprocessing of the sm0p blocks... but I'm facing some troubles with KP6 and I wonder if nqp or rakudo already support writing that grammar.. | 11:28 | |
| lambdabot | ruoso: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. | ||
| ruoso | [particle], the grammar is svn.pugscode.org/pugs/v6/smop/sm0p/Grammar.pm | 11:32 | |
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| [particle] | ruoso: seems to me that grammar is easily translatable to rakudo or nqp | 13:41 | |
| ruoso: we'd likely take the closures out of the rules, though | 13:42 | ||
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| ruoso | [particle], even if the closures are simply string substitution? | 14:25 | |
| [particle1 | we don't have a return statement yet | 14:27 | |
| hrmm, perhaps implicit return of last statement would be good enough | |||
| ruoso | hmm... I'm not sure if that's ok for that matter | ||
| "make" must set the return to be that instead of the match | |||
| in theory, implicit return don't change the return value of the match | 14:28 | ||
| [particle1 | we do have a make statement, just not return | ||
| ruoso | I'm only using 'make' | ||
| (except for one place I'm misusing return | |||
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| [particle1 | right :) | 14:29 | |
| ruoso fixed that | 14:30 | ||
| [particle] | aha | ||
| pugs_svnbot | r20093 | ruoso++ | [smop] sm0p/Grammar.pm use make instead of return... | ||
| diff: dev.pugscode.org/changeset/20093 | |||
| lambdabot | Title: Changeset 20093 - Pugs - Trac | ||
| ruoso | [particle], so, what changes would be needed to get the Grammar working in nqp or rakudo? | 14:32 | |
| if you like, you can svn cp Grammar.pm Rakudosm0p.p6 and make the changes ;) | |||
| [particle] | simple things, s/<identifier>/<ident>/g | ||
| i wonder, can you support <.ws> ? | 14:33 | ||
| there's no reason to capture the whitespace | |||
| ruoso | but you do realise that identifier in my grammar is not Perl 6 identifier.... | ||
| it's sm0p identifier | |||
| [particle] | ah, sorry | ||
| ruoso | the grammar is in theory a completely self-contained string substitution | ||
| [particle] | yes, now i see | 14:34 | |
| ok, i get it, no inheriting other grammars | |||
| ruoso | a macro expander | ||
| [particle] | fine, it should work | ||
| ruoso | (except for \d, \s and the like...) | ||
| [particle] | sure | ||
| ruoso | svn.pugscode.org/pugs/v6/smop/sm0p/sample.sm0p | 14:35 | |
| that's a sample sm0p code... | |||
| [particle] | i'd like to have a sm0p compiler step, so you can do source -> parse -> sm0p | ||
| ruoso | ahm? | ||
| [particle] | sorry, a PCT::HllCompiler step | 14:36 | |
| ruoso | ok... that's probably what I'm calling s1p | ||
| which compiles Perl 6 code to a set of sm0p blocks | |||
| www.perlfoundation.org/perl6/index....p_language | |||
| lambdabot | Title: SMOP s1p Language / Perl 6 | ||
| ruoso | see the example in the end | 14:37 | |
| and the sm0p grammar should turn the sm0p blocks into bare C code... | |||
| (actually a single really long line) | |||
| (for each block) | 14:38 | ||
| btw... s1p is not implemented yet... | |||
| and I would really appreciate any implementation :) | |||
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| [particle] | yes, i see that, even from timtoady :) | 14:42 | |
| ruoso | heh | ||
| [particle], but getting back to the sm0p grammar... do you think it would just work? or would it need adjustments? | 14:45 | ||
| [particle] | yes, i think it'll work | 14:51 | |
| do you have a recent parrot trunk? | |||
| ruoso updatign right now | 14:52 | ||
| ruoso running make... | 14:53 | ||
| [particle] | tools/dev/mk_language_shell.pl | 14:54 | |
| ruoso | but, do I need to create a language for that? | 14:55 | |
| Can't I just run it as a standalone script (which in fact the Grammar.pm file already is) | 14:56 | ||
| ? | |||
| [particle] | ah, you mean as a perl 6 script | 14:57 | |
| i'm not sure we've implemented 'grammar' yet | 14:58 | ||
| ruoso | I mean... I just need to run that grammar taking some input and producing some output | 14:59 | |
| using whatever means needed. | |||
| [particle] | sure, ok. i'm rebuilding parrot now | ||
| first thing to do would be to make sure the file parses | |||
| ruoso | Ok, should I try it with rakudo or nqp? | 15:00 | |
| [particle] | cd languages/perl6 && make perl6 && perl6 --target=parse <filename> | 15:01 | |
| ruoso | [particle], hmmm... it stopped at line 3... | 15:04 | |
| it doesn't seems to recognize grammar and token | 15:05 | ||
| [particle] updates pugs | |||
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| [particle] | ruoso: | 15:27 | |
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| [particle] | ruoso: i think it's the bare semicolon on line three | 15:27 | |
| ruoso wonders if pugs can be compiled with 6.6.1-2 | 15:29 | ||
| [particle], could you try it with ';' instead? | |||
| [particle] | c:\usr\local\parrot\clean\languages\perl6>..\..\parrot perl6.pbc -e "grammar sm0p { token frame { <ws> <identifier> <ws> '=' <ws> 'q:sm0p' <ws> '{' <ws> <nodes> <ws> '}' <ws> ';' } }; say 1;" | ||
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| ok, here's one difference | 15:31 | ||
| rakudo requires {{ }} around closures | |||
| rather than { } | 15:32 | ||
| ruoso | hmm | ||
| [particle] | it's not to spec | ||
| ruoso | hmm... I can't get the closure to be parsed... even with the double { | 15:33 | |
| h,, | 15:34 | ||
| ok... {{ without spaces... | |||
| it parsed | |||
| [particle] | {{ make $<identifier> ~ | ||
| parses fine here | |||
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| ruoso | yeah... I think i'm getting closer... | 15:35 | |
| [particle], nice... rakudo parses the grammar | 15:41 | ||
| pugs_svnbot | r20094 | ruoso++ | [smop] adding a rakudo implementation of the sm0p grammar... it parses already... but fails when trying to execute... | ||
| diff: dev.pugscode.org/changeset/20094 | |||
| lambdabot | Title: Changeset 20094 - Pugs - Trac | ||
| ruoso | svn.pugscode.org/pugs/v6/smop/sm0p/...Grammar.pm | ||
| [particle], it still fails when trying to execute... | 15:42 | ||
| [particle] | yep, probably fails when running 'module main' | ||
| ruoso | should I try to remove the "module" thing entirely? | ||
| [particle] | give it a shot | 15:43 | |
| ruoso | well it didn't express a linked-list corruption anymore | ||
| [particle] | c:\usr\local\parrot\clean\languages\perl6>..\..\parrot perl6.pbc -e "module main | ||
| { say 1 }" | |||
| 1 | |||
| ruoso | it now just failed | ||
| Null PMC access in invoke() | |||
| [particle] | yep, i see that | ||
| i'm trying to track it down | 15:44 | ||
| funny, --target=pir isn't working | |||
| hrmm | |||
| ruoso | I need to go to the doctor now... I should be back in a couple hours or so... | ||
| [particle] | ~~ | 15:45 | |
| ruoso | ah... how can I call the match then | 15:46 | |
| ? | |||
| ruoso doc & | 15:47 | ||
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| ruoso | [particle2, I'm back... so... if I got right, the problem is in the calling convention for the match... so... how is it supposed to be called in rakudo? | 18:07 | |
| [particle2 | we need to examine the pir | 18:08 | |
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| ruoso | [particle], hmm... it seems to be stopping in the first block.. it gives me the PC, but how do I know which statement is that? | 18:13 | |
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| ruoso | rakudo: grammar foo { token bar { 'baz' }; my $a = "baz"; say bar($a) }; | 18:16 | |
| exp_evalbot | OUTPUT[baz] | ||
| ruoso | rakudo: grammar foo { token bar { 'baz' }; my $a = slurp; say bar($a) }; | ||
| exp_evalbot | OUTPUT[Null PMC access in invoke()current instr.: 'parrot;foo;_block15' pc 48 (EVAL_12:29)called from Sub 'parrot;PCT::HLLCompiler;evalpmc' pc 723 (src/PCT/HLLCompiler.pir:425)called from Sub 'parrot;PCT::HLLCompiler;compile' pc 440 (src/PCT/HLLCompiler.pir:291)called from Sub | ||
| ..'parrot;PCT::HLLCompiler;eval' pc 755 (src/PCT/HLLCompiler.pir:45... | |||
| ruoso | hmmm | ||
| the problem is with slurp :) | |||
| [particle] | ah. there is no slurp. | 18:17 | |
| ruoso | it seems that slurp is not defined | ||
| any way to achieve the same effect? | |||
| [particle] | hrmm | 18:18 | |
| i suppose we could implement it | |||
| ...in pir | |||
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| [particle] | gimme a minute to finish my lunch, and i'll start coding | 18:25 | |
| ruoso | :) | 18:26 | |
| pugs_svnbot | r20095 | ruoso++ | [smop] as slurp is not yet implemented in rakudo, I am using a sample code inline, but the parser still seems to be failing... | 18:27 | |
| diff: dev.pugscode.org/changeset/20095 | |||
| lambdabot | Title: Changeset 20095 - Pugs - Trac | ||
| ruoso | [particle], anyway... I've set the string inline, but the match still seems to be failing... | ||
| is there some easy way to debug the match? | |||
| [particle] | hrmm, i wonder if module main knows about the grammar | 18:28 | |
| try adding token testing { {{ say "testing" }} } | |||
| and call that | |||
| '' ~~ <smop::testing> | 18:29 | ||
| or whatever | |||
| ruoso | I've already added the code inside the grammar package, and called the token by name | ||
| rakudo: grammar foo { token bar { 'baz' }; my $a = slurp; say bar($a) }; | |||
| exp_evalbot | OUTPUT[Null PMC access in invoke()current instr.: 'parrot;foo;_block15' pc 48 (EVAL_12:29)called from Sub 'parrot;PCT::HLLCompiler;evalpmc' pc 723 (src/PCT/HLLCompiler.pir:425)called from Sub 'parrot;PCT::HLLCompiler;compile' pc 440 (src/PCT/HLLCompiler.pir:291)called from Sub | ||
| ..'parrot;PCT::HLLCompiler;eval' pc 755 (src/PCT/HLLCompiler.pir:45... | |||
| ruoso | like that | ||
| rakudo: grammar foo { token bar { 'baz' }; my $a = 'baz'; say bar($a) }; | |||
| exp_evalbot | OUTPUT[baz] | ||
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| ruoso | hmm... | 18:32 | |
| there seems to be another harder issue.... | |||
| rakudo: grammar foo { token bar { 'baz' {{ make 'foo' }} }; my $a = 'baz'; say bar($a) }; | |||
| ouch | |||
| [particle] | ah. crud | 18:33 | |
| ruoso | and it seems that exp_evalbot won't ressurect itself | 18:35 | |
| rakudo: say 1 | |||
| [particle] | i'm tracking down the error code | 18:46 | |
| it's *not* a GC bug | |||
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| buchetc | TimToady, audreyt, since a few weeks I try to reanimate S17. Could you please review my attempt and stop/correct me if I'm walking the run way. Concurrency.pod and some t/spec tests are checked in. I also update smoke server frequently. | 20:50 | |
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| TimToady | buchetc: okay, thanks, I'll try to get to that soonish, though some kind of anemia is making it rather difficult for me at the moment. will know more by the end of the week | 21:51 | |
| buchetc | TimToady: Don't hurry. I'll be afk at least one week starting at friday. Hope you will defeat this anemia soon... | 21:57 | |
| TimToady | I was just at a concurrency summit on friday, so that will help. well, not the anemia... | ||
| which is consistent with B12 deficiency, but could also have other reasons | 21:58 | ||
| (I'm at risk for B12 deficiency in any case, since I am missing part of my stomach...) | 21:59 | ||
| ought to have occurred to me sooner, but hypoxia makes one stupid... | 22:00 | ||
| [particle] | monthly injections are an easy cure for that | ||
| TimToady | yeah, regardless of the actual mechanism | ||
| but could be internal bleeding too, which I also have a history of, so we'll see... | 22:01 | ||
| I just feel like I am at 10000' altitude when I'm really at sea level. | |||
| [particle] | i hope you don't get vertigo, too | 22:02 | |
| TimToady | well, I have that too, off and on, and the blood pressure medication certainly doesn't help that... | ||
| eventually you just get to where all the doctors tell you contradictory advice, at which point it's time to shuffle off... | 22:03 | ||
| :) | |||
| speaking of which, I'd better go get my wife's oil changed :) | 22:05 | ||
| [particle] | sheesh, you two and your maintenance! | ||
| pugs_svnbot | r20096 | Darren_Duncan++ | ext/Muldis-DB/ : for now, the Perl 5 v of Muldis DB is the only main version, not the Perl 6 v | 22:08 | |
| diff: dev.pugscode.org/changeset/20096 | |||
| lambdabot | Title: Changeset 20096 - Pugs - Trac | ||
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| pugs_svnbot | r20097 | buchetc++ | [t\spec] smartlink issues | 22:32 | |
| diff: dev.pugscode.org/changeset/20097 | |||
| lambdabot | Title: Changeset 20097 - Pugs - Trac | ||
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| lichtkind | is there anywhere a current precompiled parrot? | 22:41 | |
| for win32 | |||
| buchetc | do you already have checked sourceforge.net/projects/parrotwin32/ | 22:47 | |
| lichtkind | buchetc: no thanks | 22:54 | |
| its great | 22:55 | ||
| buchetc: whats your interest in perl6 ? | 22:58 | ||
| buchetc | lichtkind: I love perl :-) | 23:03 | |
| lichtkind | buchetc: thats always a very god reason :) | 23:04 | |
| buchetc | perl6 will be a big step for modern programming languages | ||
| lichtkind | ähm good | ||
| buchetc: yeah there is no languange nearly as shiny as perl 6 | |||
| perl 5 is on 5 or 6 for me | 23:05 | ||
| buchetc: and your also just a lurker or? | |||
| buchetc | lichtkind: lurker?? | 23:06 | |
| lichtkind | buchetc: someone who just looks | ||
| or i ask the other way would you ne interested to help out with an perl 6 tutorial | 23:08 | ||
| buchetc | lichtkind: Tutorials are not my favourite task :/. I currently work at S17 and concurrency issues for perl6 | 23:09 | |
| lichtkind | ah you are that i heard it on channel today | 23:11 | |
| ther perl6.exe doesnt seems to work | 23:13 | ||
| gives a shitload on error for an simple say statement | |||
| buchetc | bad news. I've had build pugs yesterday at win32. I'll try it tomorrow for parrot and let you know | 23:15 | |
| at home I've had no win running | |||
| s/had// | 23:16 | ||
| lichtkind | thanks a lot | ||
| buchetc | sorry, time to sleep now& | ||
| lichtkind | nop & good night | 23:17 | |
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