pugscode.org/ | nopaste: sial.org/pbot/perl6 | pugs: [~] <m oo se> (or rakudo:, kp6:, smop: etc.) || We do Haskell, too | > reverse . show $ foldl1 (*) [1..4] | irclog: irc.pugscode.org/ Set by TimToady on 25 January 2008. |
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rakudo_svn | r28401 | pmichaud++ | [rakudo]: | 00:23 | |
r28401 | pmichaud++ | * Move postfix:<i> from builtins/op.pir to classes/Complex.pir . | |||
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dolmen | pmichaud, are you working on Complex? | 01:03 | |
pmichaud | I was just refactoring postfix:<i> at the moment. | 01:04 | |
rakudo: say 4+3i; | 01:05 | ||
p6eval | rakudo r28402 OUTPUT[4+3i] | ||
Auzon | rakudo: (4+3i).perl.say | ||
p6eval | rakudo r28402 OUTPUT[Method 'perl' not found for invocant of class 'Complex'current instr.: '_block11' pc 60 (EVAL_12:21) | ||
dolmen | I will try to improve that a bit | ||
rakudo: say 3i.WHAT; | |||
p6eval | rakudo r28402 OUTPUT[Statement not terminated properly at line 1, near ".WHAT;"current instr.: 'parrot;PGE::Util;die' pc 120 (runtime/parrot/library/PGE/Util.pir:82) | ||
Auzon | rakudo: (3i).WHAT.say | 01:06 | |
p6eval | rakudo r28402 OUTPUT[Method 'WHAT' not found for invocant of class 'Complex'current instr.: '_block11' pc 42 (EVAL_12:18) | ||
Auzon | I thought .WHAT would be for Any? | ||
rakudo: Any.WHAT.say | |||
p6eval | rakudo r28402 OUTPUT[Any] | ||
pmichaud | I didn't bother to map Parrot's Complex class to a Rakudo equivalent. | 01:07 | |
I can do that. | |||
Auzon | Would that improve anything? | ||
pmichaud | or I can leave it for dolmen to do it :-) | ||
yes. The Complex type that is showing up now is actually a Parrot object (i.e., not a subclass of Perl 6's Object) | |||
dolmen | yes, I'm on it | ||
pmichaud | so that's why .WHAT is failing. | ||
dolmen++ | |||
rakudo_svn | r28403 | pmichaud++ | [rakudo]: | 01:10 | |
r28403 | pmichaud++ | * Fix prefix:<^>(Any) to return an exclusive Range instead of an inclusive one. | |||
r28403 | pmichaud++ | * Refactor prefix:<^>(Any) into src/classes/Range.pir . | |||
Auzon | rakudo: my enum Day <Sun Mon Tue Wed Thu Fri Sat>; Day.perl.say | ||
p6eval | rakudo r28402 OUTPUT[Statement not terminated properly at line 1, near "Mon Tue We"current instr.: 'parrot;PGE::Util;die' pc 120 (runtime/parrot/library/PGE/Util.pir:82) | ||
pmichaud | rakudo doesn't do enum yet. | ||
Auzon | oh | 01:11 | |
pmichaud | at least, I don't think it does, unless jonathan++ slipped it in on me. :-) | ||
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Auzon | rakudo: my %h = enum <a b c>; %h.perl.say | 01:15 | |
p6eval | rakudo r28403 OUTPUT[Could not find non-existent sub enumcurrent instr.: '_block11' pc 56 (EVAL_12:24) | ||
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Tene | Auzon: what is enum? | 01:22 | |
Auzon | S12:1650 or perlcabal.org/syn/S12.html#Enums | ||
lambdabot | Title: S12 | ||
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dolmen | pmichaud, I created onload for Complex | 01:36 | |
pmichaud | dolmen++ | 01:37 | |
dolmen | I now have to replace the construction of Complex inf e.g. infix:+ | ||
s/inf/in/ | |||
I'm not sure if Complex is an object or just a wrapper around a parrot type | 01:38 | ||
In postfix:i, "$0[1] = a" puzzles me | 01:39 | ||
pmichaud | follow the example for things like Int, Float | ||
actually | 01:40 | ||
you may just be able to do a 'register' | |||
just a sec | |||
nopaste.snit.ch/13281 | 01:42 | ||
methods then go into the ['Perl6Complex'] namespace | |||
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dolmen | In Num and Int, this is reversed | 01:51 | |
pmichaud: Is it because 'Complex' is already the name of the parrot type? | 01:52 | ||
pmichaud | yes. | 01:54 | |
Since Parrot already grabs the name 'Complex', we have to use a different name for Rakudo's type. | |||
which also tells me that my nopaste was wrong. | |||
just a sec | |||
(perhaps 'Hash' is a better model) | |||
nopaste.snit.ch/13282 | 01:55 | ||
no, Hash isn't a good model either. | |||
anyway, nopaste #13282 should be a better start. | |||
dolmen | I already wrote that | 01:56 | |
pmichaud | (the 'name'=> option is what I added) | ||
dolmen++ | 01:57 | ||
Auzon | What happens if someone defines a class name of 'also' and someone tries to inherit from it? | ||
perl6: class also {}; class Foo is also {}; say Foo ~~ also; | 01:58 | ||
p6eval | kp6 r20832: OUTPUT[no method 'APPLY' in Class 'Undef' at compiled/perl5-kp6-mp6/lib/KindaPerl6/Runtime/Perl5/MOP.pm line 345 | ||
..pugs: OUTPUT[] | |||
..rakudo r28403: OUTPUT[invoke() not implemented in class 'also'current instr.: '_block11' pc 36 (EVAL_10:19) | |||
..elf r20832: OUTPUT[syntax error at (eval 14) line 14, near "Foo ~" at ./elf_f_faster line 4549] | |||
pmichaud | I suspect that class 'also' should fail. | ||
actually, no. | |||
hrm. | |||
I'll let someone else figure that out. :-) | 01:59 | ||
Auzon | 'open' and 'nonfinal' have similar problems | ||
and 'hidden' | |||
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Auzon | S12:1797 says to 'use oo :closed :final', but 1806, 1817, and 1822 'use class :open' or 'use class :nonfinal'. Can someone explain the why this is inconsistent? | 02:14 | |
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bacek__ | rakudo: min({ abs $^a <=> abs $^b }, (-2..2)); | 02:26 | |
p6eval | rakudo r28403 RESULT[0] | ||
bacek__ | rakudo: say min({ abs $^a <=> abs $^b }, (-2..2)); | ||
p6eval | rakudo r28403 OUTPUT[0] | ||
bacek__ | rakudo: min({ abs 0+$^a <=> abs 0+$^b }, (-2..2)); | ||
p6eval | rakudo r28403 RESULT[0] | ||
Auzon | rakudo: min(-50 .. 50).say | ||
p6eval | rakudo r28403 OUTPUT[-50] | ||
pmichaud | pugs: say ((0,1,2) X (0,1,2)).perl | 02:29 | |
p6eval | OUTPUT[((0, 0), (0, 1), (0, 2), (1, 0), (1, 1), (1, 2), (2, 0), (2, 1), (2, 2))] | ||
Auzon | I was wondering if you had an evalbot in #parrot that I blocked :P | ||
pmichaud | just was in the wrong window. Happens often to me. | ||
bacek__ | rakudo: my @array = <5 -3 7 0 1 -9>; say @array.min: { abs $^a <=> abs $^b }; | 02:34 | |
pugs_svnbot | r20833 | Auzon++ | [gsoc_spectest] tests for is also/instead/open. (added 16 tests) | ||
p6eval | rakudo r28403 OUTPUT[absolute() not implemented in class 'Perl6Str'current instr.: '_block25' pc 162 (EVAL_12:67) | ||
bacek__ | rakudo: my @array = <5 -3 7 0 1 -9>; say @array.min: { abs 0+$^a <=> abs 0+$^b }; | ||
p6eval | rakudo r28403 OUTPUT[0] | ||
bacek__ | pmichaud: probably bug in rakudo... | ||
pmichaud | why do you think that's a bug? | 02:35 | |
what answer do you expect? | |||
oh, because the first one didnt do any output? | 02:36 | ||
ah, I see. | |||
I don't know that I've implemented abs yet. | |||
at least for strings. Just a sec. | 02:37 | ||
rakudo_svn | r28404 | pmichaud++ | [rakudo]: | 02:38 | |
r28404 | pmichaud++ | * More prefix:<^> refactoring. | |||
bacek__ | but why it 'Perl6Str'? | ||
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rakudo_svn | r28406 | pmichaud++ | [rakudo]: | 02:43 | |
r28406 | pmichaud++ | * Fix abs() for non-numeric types. | |||
pugs_svnbot | r20834 | bacek++ | [spec] Add more parentises around method calls | 02:46 | |
diakopter wants a Perl 6 "implementation" whose Test.pm causes it to always give what the test expects (not just fake success). Who wants to write a fudgefork to do that....? | 02:47 | ||
pmichaud | diakopter: ...explain? | 02:48 | |
diakopter | pmichaud: :) just a joke... a pretend-implementation that feeds Test.pm whatever each test expects (dies_ok, is_deeply, etc) | 02:49 | |
Auzon | You'd still need a good parser :P | 02:50 | |
diakopter | in other words, an implementation that is complete.. that is, passes all the tests in the test suite | ||
"complete" | 02:51 | ||
that'd be a fun lightning talk | 02:52 | ||
Auzon | So basically a fake implementation that automatically passes all the tests? ;) | ||
pmichaud | I can do that by faking Test.pm :-) | ||
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diakopter | pmichaud: yep, that's what I mean | 02:56 | |
well, sort of, I wanted it to actually produce the expected results, not just always give "ok" | |||
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rakudo_svn | r28407 | duff++ | [rakudo]: | 03:04 | |
r28407 | duff++ | * Add run builtin (Zev++ RT50558) | |||
r28407 | duff++ | * patch courtesy Zev Benjamin <zev-perl6 at strangersgate.com> | |||
r28408 | pmichaud++ | [rakudo]: Fix abs(Int) to return Int. | 03:05 | ||
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rakudo_svn | r28409 | pmichaud++ | [rakudo]: | 03:22 | |
r28409 | pmichaud++ | * Add S29-list/minmax.t to spectest_regression.data (bacek++) | |||
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Auzon | elf: say 7 + 18 + 21 + 6 + 1 + 7 + 16 | 03:36 | |
p6eval | OUTPUT[76] | ||
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Auzon | elf: say 76+73+39 | 03:46 | |
p6eval | OUTPUT[188] | ||
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stevan_ | kolibrie: your here too? | 04:52 | |
rakudo_svn | r28413 | coke++ | [codingstd] | 05:10 | |
r28413 | coke++ | | |||
r28413 | coke++ | Pass "make codetest" | |||
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pugs_svnbot | r20835 | lwall++ | [STD] various repairs to fate system | 05:35 | |
r20835 | lwall++ | [gimme5] ability to process grammars that use Perl grammar | |||
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pmurias | Nl | 14:25 | |
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diakopter | Nl? | 14:25 | |
pmurias | diakopter: hi | 14:26 | |
diakopter | pmurias: hi | ||
pmurias | typing accident | ||
lunch& | |||
diakopter | @yaNApc | ||
lambdabot | Unknown command, try @list | ||
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pmurias | will you be at yapc europe? | 14:38 | |
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diakopter | me? when is it | 14:41 | |
pmurias | diakopter: August 13 - 15 | ||
diakopter | permaybe | 14:42 | |
I only hear English - will I be at a loss | |||
pmurias | diakopter: it's English only | 14:44 | |
diakopter | oh | ||
pmurias | the talks are | ||
diakopter: were are you from by the way? | 14:45 | ||
diakopter | TimToady: is about to speak on pugscode/src/perl6/*.pm .... I'll summarize here :) | ||
Wichita, KS | |||
rakudo_svn | r28424 | pmichaud++ | [rakudo]: | ||
r28424 | pmichaud++ | * Add docs/spectest-progress.csv to track progress on passing spectests. | |||
r28424 | pmichaud++ | (I'll keep this file up-to-date for the time being.) | |||
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pmurias | what does permaybe mean? | 15:02 | |
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pmurias | ruoso: what should i focus on now a faster sm0p parser of cleaning up elf? | 15:11 | |
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pmurias | perl6: "abc" =~ /b/ | 15:11 | |
p6eval | kp6 r20835: OUTPUT[syntax error at position 6, line 1 column 6:"abc" =~ /b ^ HERE] | ||
..pugs: OUTPUT[***  Unexpected "/" There is no =~ operator in Perl 6 -- did you mean ~~ (match) or ~= (concat-assign)? at /tmp/eQXymuWyjL line 1, column 10] | |||
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TimToady | hi, you're on YAPC-TV!!! | 15:15 | |
moritz_ | YaY | 15:16 | |
rakudo: say "Hi, I'm the cool kid ;-)" | |||
p6eval | rakudo r28424 OUTPUT[Hi, I'm the cool kid ;-)] | ||
rindolf | Hi TimToady | ||
Hi moritz_ | 15:17 | ||
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diakopter | WELCOME YAPC | 15:19 | |
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pugs_svnbot | r20836 | pmurias++ | [elf] | 15:41 | |
r20836 | pmurias++ | removed =~ | |||
r20836 | pmurias++ | added a doubt to the two compilers section in the README | |||
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diakopter | well, I would summarize it if the wifi were working here | 15:45 | |
factorial macro... | 15:48 | ||
jrockway | eval: 10! | ||
TimToady | perl6: sub postfix:<!> ($x) { [*] 1..$x }; 5! | 15:49 | |
p6eval | kp6 r20836: OUTPUT[error in Block at compiled/perl5-kp6-mp6/lib/KindaPerl6/Grammar/Sub.pm line 362, <> line 1.*** Syntax Error in sub '': missing closing curly bracket ] | 15:50 | |
..pugs: RESULT[120] | |||
..rakudo r28425: OUTPUT[Statement not terminated properly at line 1, near ":<!> ($x) "current instr.: 'parrot;PGE::Util;die' pc 120 (runtime/parrot/library/PGE/Util.pir:82) | |||
..elf r20836: OUTPUT[syntax error at ./elf_f_faster line 3160, near ") ~"syntax error at ./elf_f_faster line 3161, near "))"syntax error at ./elf_f_faster line 3162, near "}elsif"Global symbol "$m" requires explicit package name at ./elf_f_faster line 3162.Execution of ./elf_f_faster aborted | |||
..due to compilation errors.] | |||
apeiron | MØØSE | 15:52 | |
diakopter | pmurias: you around? | ||
pmurias | diakopter: yes | 15:53 | |
diakopter | you and Auzon want to hack STD5 into the evalbot? | 15:54 | |
pmurias | diakopter: now? | ||
diakopter | :D | 15:55 | |
sure, why not | |||
Auzon | Sure, what needs to be done with it? | ||
pmurias | diakopter: a STD5 is quite verbose | 15:56 | |
;) a STD5 match | |||
it would either flood the channel with --vertical or be mericlessly wraped | 15:57 | ||
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moritz_ | so what can we print? parse failed/succeded? | 15:58 | |
diakopter | probably grep just for the name/subrule that matched, | 16:00 | |
(s) | |||
pmurias | it would be pretty useless | ||
diakopter | it would show the subrules that matched | ||
(in order they matched) | 16:01 | ||
oops | 16:02 | ||
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pmurias | moritz: if you have a wide screen or good eyesight and a small font you could try STD5_dump_match | 16:02 | |
or have evalbot nopaste the output of --vertical | 16:03 | ||
diakopter: what do you need STD in evalbot for? | 16:04 | ||
yap6: say 5 | 16:06 | ||
p6eval | yap6 r20836 OUTPUT[parsed: [["use"],["v6"],[";"],["say"],[5],["EOI"]]] | ||
diakopter | pmurias: to show yapc | ||
pmurias | on the projector? | ||
diakopter | sure, yeah :) | ||
Larry's about halfway done | 16:07 | ||
with his talk | |||
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diakopter | if you can do it in 15 minutes.. :D | 16:07 | |
pmurias | does evalbot run perl5.10 | 16:08 | |
? | |||
diakopter | no | ||
does it need to? | |||
pmurias | STD5 runs on perl5.10 only | ||
diakopter | oh | ||
pmurias | you can call STD5 from the terminal if you want to show the match to people | 16:09 | |
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ruoso | pmurias, a faster sm0p parser is certainly much helpfull | 16:09 | |
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diakopter | pmurias: that's what he's doing | 16:10 | |
I just thought it would be cool to show it on irc too | |||
moritz_ | diakopter: I don't think that can be done fast and in a useful way ;) | 16:11 | |
diakopter | ok | ||
pmurias | ruoso: i'm considering cleaning up elf and feeding it output of STD5 | 16:12 | |
diakopter: would you like to write a sm0p parser? ;) | |||
diakopter | what's currently parsing it | ||
moritz_ | I think kp6 | ||
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pmurias | diakopter: elf is currently parsed by STD_red | 16:13 | |
which is STD hand-converted to ruby | |||
moritz_ was talking about sm0p | |||
pmurias | diakopter: sorry got confused | 16:14 | |
diakopter: sm0p is currently parsed my a primtive (recdescent) perl6 grammar | |||
ruoso | well... there's a lowlevel method implemnetation already | 16:15 | |
there's a lowlevel scalar also | |||
it should be possible to do something with that already | |||
pmurias | diakopter: v6/smop/sm0p/KP6Grammar.pm | 16:16 | |
ruoso: meant plugging STD5 into elf, more as an alternative as STD_red is enough for the code smop could run now | 16:17 | ||
cycling& bbl | 16:20 | ||
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ruoso | pmurias, I'm not sure I understood what you said... but that's probably because I'm not that familiar with STD5 internals | 16:26 | |
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moritz_ | let's ask the other way round - how hard/easy is sm0p to parse? it is specced somewhere? | 16:27 | |
pmurias | ruoso: i was considering whether to write a faster sm0p parser or to cleanup elf and plug STD5 into it | 16:28 | |
moritz_: i would guess sm0p is pretty simple to parse | |||
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ruoso | pmurias, writing a faster sm0p parser is already a usefull thing to do | 16:29 | |
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ruoso | but I think it should be possible to do some more things with smop than what sm0p does | 16:30 | |
moritz_ | is v6/smop/sm0p/Grammar.pm intended to be a "real" Perl 6 grammar for sm0p? | 16:31 | |
pmurias | & | ||
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moritz_ | "token frame" could be made "rule frame", then all of those <ws> tokens could go away | 16:32 | |
ruoso | moritz_, supposedly yes... | 16:33 | |
but the KP6 version works with KP6 | |||
there's a start of what a parrot version would be | |||
moritz_ | parrot = PGE or rakudo here? | 16:34 | |
ruoso | moritz_, I think PGE | 16:35 | |
I never actually tested it | |||
I mean... | |||
I could never make it work... | |||
but conceptually Grammar.pm describes it... it might have some bugs that were only fixed in the KP6 version | 16:36 | ||
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pmurias | ruoso: is a faster sm0p parser something your blocking or would it just be usefull? | 18:25 | |
ruoso | not really blocking... no... | 18:27 | |
it's just a PITA to wait KP6 everytime... | |||
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icwiener | Hi, I watched for Perl 6 books and found some. Is is already possible to write a book that is not outdated quite fast? I mean, is the language itself solid enough to write books? Just curious because I'm considering buying the one James Lee wrote and not following the process closely enough to know such things. | 18:37 | |
Do you have any hints? Maybe about the book as well? :=) | 18:38 | ||
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PerlJam | icwiener: what books on perl 6 did you find? | 18:41 | |
pmurias | icwiener: the spec seems to gradualy stablise, but the implementations are rapidly changing | 18:42 | |
icwiener | PerlJam: Perl 6 and Parrot Essentials (2004) | 18:43 | |
PerlJam: Perl 6 Now (2004) | |||
and some more older books... | |||
PerlJam | icwiener: the latter really isn't a perl 6 book. | ||
icwiener | Oh, right just read the descriptive title. | 18:44 | |
PerlJam | (It's about how to do perl 6 like things in perl 5 today) | ||
pmurias | @tell mncharity Foo.new(a=>1,b=>1) gets parsed as Foo.new(a=>(1,b=1)) | ||
lambdabot | Consider it noted. | ||
icwiener | PerlJam: Beginning Perl 6: From Novice to Professional (July 2008) | ||
PerlJam | icwiener: the perl 6 portion of Perl 6 and Parrot Essentials is definitely outdated. | ||
icwiener: the parrot portion is too, but the reference material is still fairly good. | 18:45 | ||
pmurias | you can always print out the synopsis | ||
icwiener | pmurias: So what is thought in the book (the latter one) might be "stable" but how it is done in the compiler/interpreter/whatever is still changing. Did I get that right? But the implementation is not important for learning from the book right? | 18:46 | |
pmurias | icwiener: i haven't read the book | 18:47 | |
PerlJam | pmurias: since it's not even out yet :) | ||
icwiener | PerlJam: What's with the latter book. Do you know it? It seems promising. The author wrote another Perl (5) book that is rated very highly. | ||
PerlJam | I wonder if I could cajole rdice into giving me a copy for review :) | ||
icwiener: I know nothing about it. | 18:48 | ||
icwiener: though I'd be leery of it give that perl 6 is still a christmas away | |||
icwiener | PerlJam: Ok. Maybe after you got your review copy... ;) | ||
pmurias | icwiener: what i mean is the book can only discuss how things are speced to be not how they are, as the language isn't implemented (fully|mostly) yet | 18:49 | |
PerlJam | pmurias: well, it could say things like "in rakudo, you'd do this" and "i pugs, you'd do this" and "In <insert some other implementation>, you'd do this" | ||
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pmurias | PerlJam: but it would outdate itself rapidly | 18:50 | |
not the pugs stuff :( | |||
PerlJam | pmurias: not for pugs since it hasn't changed in a year or so :) | ||
Schwern is slowing down my IRC | |||
Auzon | Yeah, but Elf and Rakudo would be obsolete before it got to press. ;) | 18:51 | |
ingy | /kick Sch | ||
meh | |||
/kick Sch* | |||
Auzon | rakudo: say try {1} | 18:52 | |
icwiener | Hmm. Ok. Thank you for your advice. Helped a lot with my decision. :) | ||
p6eval | rakudo r28431 OUTPUT[1] | ||
Auzon | rakudo: say try {5**2} | ||
p6eval | rakudo r28431 OUTPUT[25] | ||
PerlJam | icwiener: why are you interested in perl 6? | ||
icwiener: I ask because it's not suitable for some uses just yet | |||
Auzon | rakudo: my Int $foo; $foo = 'obviously not an Int'; say $foo; | ||
p6eval | rakudo r28431 OUTPUT[Type check failedcurrent instr.: 'parrot;Perl6Object;infix:=' pc 59 (src/gen_builtins.pir:51) | ||
Auzon | rakudo: my Str $foo; $foo = 5; say $foo; | 18:53 | |
pmurias | unless you're prepared to hack on the compiler | ||
p6eval | rakudo r28431 OUTPUT[Type check failedcurrent instr.: 'parrot;Perl6Object;infix:=' pc 59 (src/gen_builtins.pir:51) | ||
Eevee | wow, try{} exists now? | ||
when did that happen | |||
Auzon | Eevee: Not sure, but I think I have another test for Rakudo to pass unfudged. | ||
Eevee | you guys move too fast for me to keep up and do anything :P slow down | 18:54 | |
pmurias is scared of STD_red, but mncharity isn't here to fix it for him :( | |||
icwiener | PerlJam: Because I wrote some stuff in Perl 5 about five years ago and I need a nice language for prototyping at the end of the year (yes around christmas ;)) ... I have a month vacation in August so I thought that would be a nice opportunity to get into Perl 6. :) | ||
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PerlJam | icwiener: well, if you don't mind the state it's in, I encourage you to use rakudo if you can. | 18:56 | |
Auzon | Can I ask what you're prototyping? | ||
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rakudo_svn | r28432 | pmichaud++ | [rakudo]: | 18:59 | |
r28432 | pmichaud++ | * SVN property fix on spectest-progress.csv . | |||
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icwiener | Auzon: Nothing big. We have to implement a client server application in C and I think it's nice to have the client or the server written in some less problematic language. That way you do not have the problem of having a server and a client that are both not yet working correctly and it's hard to see where the problem is. | 18:59 | |
PerlJam: Thanks for the advise. | 19:00 | ||
Auzon | Interesting. Rakudo might be enough for you. | ||
dolmen | Auzon, is there sockets in rakudo yet? | 19:01 | |
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Auzon | Not that I know of. | 19:01 | |
icwiener | But until christmas there will be, right? :) | ||
dolmen | :) | 19:02 | |
PerlJam | Parrot has sockets, it's just not exposed to Rakudo yet (AFAIK) | ||
Auzon | rakudo: my Int $foo; say try {$foo = 'asdf'}; | ||
p6eval | rakudo r28432 OUTPUT[Null PMC access in get_string()current instr.: 'print' pc 9561 (src/gen_builtins.pir:6286) | ||
PerlJam | So, all it would take is someone to write the glue. | ||
dolmen | oh, you're prototyping a Chritsmas gift :) | ||
Auzon | rakudo: my Int $foo; say eval '$foo = "asdf"'; | ||
p6eval | rakudo r28432 OUTPUT[Scope not found for PAST::Var '$foo'current instr.: 'parrot;PCT::HLLCompiler;panic' pc 156 (src/PCT/HLLCompiler.pir:103) | ||
icwiener | dolmen: hehe, no. actually some stuff for an exam that is supposed to be given in january. | 19:03 | |
Auzon | Alright. Well, good luck, icwiener. | 19:04 | |
away & | |||
icwiener | Thank you. To all of you. :) | 19:05 | |
Bye, for now. | |||
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rakudo_svn | r28433 | pmichaud++ | [rakudo]: | 19:27 | |
r28433 | pmichaud++ | * Update Complex as subclass of Any, add .perl method (dolmen++) | |||
r28433 | pmichaud++ | * Patch RT#55872 courtesy Olivier Mengu?\195?\169 [email@hidden.address] | |||
r28433 | pmichaud++ | (with minor changes by pmichaud) | |||
dolmen | pmichaud++ | 19:34 | |
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pugs_svnbot | r20837 | diakopter++ | [yap6] fixed the ast output so it's actually a tree | 19:47 | |
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diakopter | www.perlcabal.org/svn/pugs/revision/?rev=20837 stupid pugs_svnbot | 19:48 | |
lambdabot | Title: revision: /pugs (Rev: 20837, via SVN::Web) | ||
diakopter heads to Alias' next talk | |||
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pmurias | diakopter: why is pugs_svnbot stupid? | 19:50 | |
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moritz_ | because it doesn't fully show diakopter's wonderful commit messages | 19:50 | |
surprisingly it works well with everbody else's commits | 19:51 | ||
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diakopter | :P | 19:51 | |
:PP | 19:52 | ||
moritz_ | anyway, diakopter++ # verbose commit messages | ||
diakopter | I think, rather, it's freenode that doesn't work with my commits. | ||
moritz_ | freenode? why? | 19:53 | |
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diakopter | b/c it kicks pugs_svnbot when it sends messages in too quick of succession | 19:55 | |
moritz_ | I ignore joins and quits... was it really kicked? | 19:56 | |
diakopter | yes | 20:00 | |
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pmurias | Term::ANSIColor++ # my favourite module | 20:09 | |
moritz_ | diakopter: is it that pugs based svn bot? | ||
pmurias | karma Term::ANSIColor | 20:10 | |
@karma Term::ANSIColor | |||
lambdabot | Term::ANSIColor has a karma of 1 | ||
moritz_ | diakopter: I use Bot::BasicBot myself, it throttles automatically | ||
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diakopter | so does botnix (dalek on #parrot) | 20:15 | |
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rakudo_svn | r28436 | pmichaud++ | [rakudo]: | 20:20 | |
r28436 | pmichaud++ | * Make rakudo's grammar slightly closer to STD.pm (expect_term). | |||
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spinclad_ | i see rakudo_svn doesn't pass utf8 through as dalek does ('Olivier Mengué') | 20:47 | |
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moritz_ | yes, I'll have to investigate | 20:49 | |
later this week, hopefully | |||
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pmurias | diakopter: is mncharity at the yapc? | 21:15 | |
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diakopter | pmurias: I don't know | 21:23 | |
pmurias | :) | 21:25 | |
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pmurias | TimToady: use'ing Thing in "grammar Foo is Thing" is wrong | 21:36 | |
Perl lives in STD5 dosn't it? | |||
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pmurias | diakopter: what did TimToady use for onscreen match dumping? | 21:49 | |
diakopter | a script he had | 21:54 | |
I don't know; email him? | |||
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pmurias | diakopter: i'm wandering if it was my script ;) | 21:57 | |
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diakopter | pmurias: it might have been, but there was no color | 22:01 | |
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pmurias | diakopter: you have seen the output of STD5_dump_match? | 22:04 | |
diakopter | noo | ||
TimToady | I didn't have a chance to show it, ran out of time | 22:05 | |
and most of my examples aren't whole files | |||
pmurias | TimToady: did you use YAML? | 22:06 | |
TimToady | mostly just filtered through ->hash to cut down the output, yeah. | 22:07 | |
but I mostly wasn't trying to show trees | 22:08 | ||
but specific bits of stuff that flow from the grammar like the difference between prefix:<++> and postfix:<++> and the user-added prefix:<+-> | |||
and how the bits of code look, and how the LTM works | 22:09 | ||
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TimToady | and I was gonna use your program and brag about it, but last night it didn't parse a file with just $a++ in it, so I left it in the way it was | 22:09 | |
PerlJam | TimToady: so, for LTM, you stop ltm processing as soon as you hit something that's "over-quantified"? I.e. 'abc' ** 3..5 would work, but 'abc'+ would not? | 22:10 | |
PerlJam still doesn't quite understand ltm | |||
TimToady | 'abc'+ should count as one 'abc' | 22:12 | |
(if there's nothing after it) | 22:13 | ||
though, actually, I think the + comes through to | |||
since that might influence which is the longest token | |||
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TimToady | sorry, just woke up from migraine-enforced nap, so not quite thinking straight yet | 22:14 | |
diakopter | TimToady: want to know who won the golf? | ||
TimToady | sure | 22:15 | |
diakopter | they tied the 18 holes | ||
PerlJam | I'm having sinus headaches myself. A nap sounds real good. | ||
diakopter | at even par | ||
and Tiger won in the first sudden death hole | |||
TimToady | sudden death after that? | ||
ah, well, I was a little surprised his knee held up | |||
pugs_svnbot | r20838 | pmurias++ | initial port of the sm0p grammar to gimme5 (the hack/rule engine compiles STD5) | ||
TimToady | I thought Rocco might have the advantage down the way | ||
pmurias | TimToady: STD5_dump_match seems to have broken down horribly for STD5 | 22:19 | |
have you changed the way STD needs to be invoked | 22:20 | ||
ruoso: if you aren't sleeping i have ci a initial version of the sm0p grammar running under gimme5 | 22:21 | ||
TimToady | pmurias: I don't think so | 22:23 | |
ruoso | pmurias, cool... | 22:24 | |
diakopter heads to tpf grant bof | |||
ruoso | pmurias, had you tested using it as the preprocessor? | 22:25 | |
pmurias | it only does the matching | ||
ruoso | the grammar is a match and replace... | ||
there is no real action.... | |||
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pmurias | i remove actions before passing it to gimme5 | 22:26 | |
ruoso | even if it's only string replace? | ||
pmurias | mncharity: hi | 22:27 | |
ruoso: yes, i'll use elf later to run the actions | |||
ruoso | alright then... | 22:28 | |
pmurias | TimToady: could you paste the scripts you use to run STD5? | ||
ruoso | btw... I'm not really around here... | ||
I'm finishing packaging for a transatlantic move | |||
ruoso moving back to brasil | |||
pmurias | ruoso: i won't iterupt you then, so you don't forget anything ;) | 22:30 | |
* interupt | |||
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TimToady | ~.~. | 22:31 | |
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TimToady | sorry, this wireless doesn't roam well... | 22:32 | |
pmurias: hang on a sec | |||
mncharity | hi pmurias | ||
lambdabot | mncharity: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. | ||
mncharity | /msg lambdabot @messages | ||
pmurias | mncharity: are you at the yapc? | 22:33 | |
pmurias should have looked at the ip adress instead of asking stupidly | 22:35 | ||
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cjfields | rakudo: 'A'..'D'.say; | 22:36 | |
p6eval | rakudo r28443 OUTPUT[D] | ||
pasteling | "TimToady" at 198.37.17.244 pasted "tryfoo, runs the foo rule in STD (currently set up to test backref match)" (14 lines, 234B) at sial.org/pbot/31333 | ||
cjfields | rakudo: say 'A'..'D'; | ||
p6eval | rakudo r28443 OUTPUT[ABCD] | ||
cjfields | rakudo: say 'A'..'Z' | ||
p6eval | rakudo r28443 | ||
..OUTPUT[ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZAAABACADAEAFAGAHAIAJAKALAMANAOAPAQARASATAUAVAWAXAYAZBABBBCBDBEBFBGBHBIBJBKBLBMBNBOBPBQBRBSBTBUBVBWBXBYBZCACBCCCDCECFCGCHCICJCKCLCMCNCOCPCQCRCSCTCUCVCWCXCYCZDADBDCDDDEDFDGDHDIDJDKDLDMDNDODPDQDRDSDTDUDVDWDXDYDZEAEBECEDEEEFEGEHEIEJEKELEMENEOEPEQERESETEUEVEWEXEYEZFAFB | |||
..FCFDFEFFFGFHFIFJFKFLFMFNFOFPFQFRFSFTFUFVFWFXFYFZGA... | |||
cjfields | Ugh. | ||
rakudo: say 'A'..^'Z' | 22:37 | ||
p6eval | rakudo r28443 OUTPUT[ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXY] | ||
Auzon | Wow. That's pretty WTFy. | ||
cjfields | yeah, just found that one. | ||
Auzon | You can use .say if you put the first group in parens | ||
TimToady | alpha ++ should never exceed the length on the right | ||
and you have to have that test anyway, in case the comparison "misses" | 22:38 | ||
Auzon | rakudo: ('A' .. 'Z').perl.say | ||
p6eval | rakudo r28443 OUTPUT["A".."Z"] | ||
TimToady | on the other hand, it *should* stop on Z anyway | ||
pmurias | TimToady: foo works | ||
dolmen | rakudo: say ('A'..'Z') | ||
p6eval | rakudo r28443 | ||
..OUTPUT[ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZAAABACADAEAFAGAHAIAJAKALAMANAOAPAQARASATAUAVAWAXAYAZBABBBCBDBEBFBGBHBIBJBKBLBMBNBOBPBQBRBSBTBUBVBWBXBYBZCACBCCCDCECFCGCHCICJCKCLCMCNCOCPCQCRCSCTCUCVCWCXCYCZDADBDCDDDEDFDGDHDIDJDKDLDMDNDODPDQDRDSDTDUDVDWDXDYDZEAEBECEDEEEFEGEHEIEJEKELEMENEOEPEQERESETEUEVEWEXEYEZFAFB | |||
..FCFDFEFFFGFHFIFJFKFLFMFNFOFPFQFRFSFTFUFVFWFXFYFZGA... | |||
pmurias | TimToady: does comp_unit work for you? | ||
Auzon | seems to me that the trimming needs to be just a bit shorter... | ||
cjfields | that's what I would think, but... | 22:39 | |
rakudo: say 'A'..'Y' | |||
p6eval | rakudo r28443 OUTPUT[ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXY] | ||
cjfields | which is fine | ||
pmurias | foo works for me too | ||
cjfields | rakudo: say 'A'.. | 22:40 | |
p6eval | rakudo r28443 OUTPUT[Statement not terminated properly at line 1, near ".."current instr.: 'parrot;PGE::Util;die' pc 120 (runtime/parrot/library/PGE/Util.pir:82) | ||
pasteling | "TimToady" at 198.37.17.244 pasted "trytry, which runs try.t as a comp_unit (where try.t is an old copy of radix.t)" (15 lines, 264B) at sial.org/pbot/31334 | ||
cjfields | rakudo: say 'A'..'AA' | ||
p6eval | rakudo r28443 OUTPUT[A] | ||
pmurias | mncharity: i'm thinking it would be a good idea to add STD5 as a second parser to elf | 22:41 | |
TimToady | pmurias: and yes, the last nopaste works with comp_unit | ||
I can also run your program on try.t, not on a simple $a++ | |||
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TimToady | works on the most recent radix.t as well | 22:44 | |
so it's not that my try.t is old | |||
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pmurias | so it's an STD bug | 22:44 | |
? | 22:45 | ||
TimToady | I don't know why your program doesn't work; didn't have a chance to look at it | ||
pugs_svnbot | r20839 | Auzon++ | [evalbot] shortened the max length slightly to keep output in one message. | ||
TimToady | I was up till 1:00 getting ready for my talk today | ||
and had a sufficient number of my own bugs :) | 22:46 | ||
pmurias | it's your program that doesn't work | ||
;) | |||
it works on radix.t | |||
dolmen | rakudo: my $a = 'Z'; $a++; say $a; | ||
p6eval | rakudo r28443 OUTPUT[AA] | ||
pmurias | STD5_dump_match works on radix.t | ||
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mncharity | pmurias: Foo.new(a=>1,b=>2) parsing as a=>(1,b=>2) is STD.pm spec (the precedence check in EXPR has been commented out there for a long time). :a<1>,:b<2> works. | 22:47 | |
not at yapc | |||
TimToady | could well be my bug, but I already had programs that parsed $a++, so I just used em | ||
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Auzon | elf: say time | 22:47 | |
p6eval | OUTPUT[syntax error at ./elf_f_faster line 3160, near ") ~"syntax error at ./elf_f_faster line 3161, near "))"syntax error at ./elf_f_faster line 3162, near "}elsif"Global symbol "$m" requires explicit package name at ./elf_f_faster line 3162.Execution of ./elf_f_faster aborted due to | ||
..compilation errors.] | |||
Auzon | elf: sub time is p5 {time}; say time | ||
pmurias | TimToady: if i pass $a++ to comp_unit is spawns an error | ||
p6eval | OUTPUT[syntax error at ./elf_f_faster line 3160, near ") ~"syntax error at ./elf_f_faster line 3161, near "))"syntax error at ./elf_f_faster line 3162, near "}elsif"Global symbol "$m" requires explicit package name at ./elf_f_faster line 3162.Execution of ./elf_f_faster aborted due to | ||
..compilation errors.] | |||
Auzon | elf: say 1 | 22:48 | |
p6eval | OUTPUT[syntax error at ./elf_f_faster line 3160, near ") ~"syntax error at ./elf_f_faster line 3161, near "))"syntax error at ./elf_f_faster line 3162, near "}elsif"Global symbol "$m" requires explicit package name at ./elf_f_faster line 3162.Execution of ./elf_f_faster aborted due to | ||
..compilation errors.] | |||
dolmen | rakudo: my $a = 'AZ'; $a++; say $a; | ||
Auzon | evalbot control restart | ||
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Auzon | oops, sorry | 22:48 | |
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dolmen | rakudo: my $a = 'AZ'; $a++; say $a; | 22:48 | |
Auzon | rakudo: say 'A' .. 'Z' | ||
TimToady | it's probably somewhere in faststopper | ||
p6eval | rakudo r28443 OUTPUT[BA] | ||
rakudo r28443 | |||
..OUTPUT[ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZAAABACADAEAFAGAHAIAJAKALAMANAOAPAQARASATAUAVAWAXAYAZBABBBCBDBEBFBGBHBIBJBKBLBMBNBOBPBQBRBSBTBUBVBWBXBYBZCACBCCCDCECFCGCHCICJCKCLCMCNCOCPCQCRCSCTCUCVCWCXCYCZDADBDCDDDEDFDGDHDIDJDKDLDMDNDODPDQDRDSDTDUDVDWDXDYDZEAEBECEDEEEFEGEHEIEJEKELEMENEOEPEQERESETEUEVEWEXEYEZFAFB | |||
..... | |||
mncharity | elf: say 3 | ||
p6eval | OUTPUT[syntax error at ./elf_f_faster line 3160, near ") ~"syntax error at ./elf_f_faster line 3161, near "))"syntax error at ./elf_f_faster line 3162, near "}elsif"Global symbol "$m" requires explicit package name at ./elf_f_faster line 3162.Execution of ./elf_f_faster aborted due to | ||
..compila... | |||
Auzon | dang. It's still too long, by just a few characters | 22:49 | |
pmurias | it's my fault | ||
i changed =~ to ~~ | |||
mncharity | :( we talked about that... | 22:50 | |
not right thing | |||
pmurias | mncharity: that = breaking the bootstrap? | ||
i didn't break it, it just requires 5.10 | 22:51 | ||
pugs_svnbot | r20840 | Auzon++ | [evalbot] last commit was just barely too long with the message length. Old length was 350 if it matters. | ||
mncharity | adding code is generally safer than changing or removing. and there's lots of stuff needing to be added. an infix:<~~> implementation in p6 would be neat. ;) | ||
Auzon | Do you have multi methods, mncharity? | ||
pmurias | mncharity: i disagree | 22:52 | |
mncharity | very crude ones. basically just Class::Multimethods. | ||
pmurias | with the changing and removing bit | ||
mncharity | pmurias: re disagree, I know. how about I fork an "elf_p" from elf_f. that will also provide a place for you to work on adding STD. | 22:54 | |
TimToady | pmurias: found it | ||
pmurias | mncharity: okay | ||
mncharity | Auzon: re multimethods, and on the SBCL backend, not yet (no even classes yet). | ||
pugs_svnbot | r20841 | lwall++ | [STD] accidental magical value collision at -1 in faststopper | ||
Auzon | with multimethods, it shouldn't be too hard to implement an infix:<~~> | 22:55 | |
TimToady | pmurias: both .pos and $+endargs were using -1 to represent "no position yet", and -1 == -1, so it succeeded in failing :) | ||
the sort of bug that only shows up if the file starts with EXPR rather than a statement_control | 22:56 | ||
mncharity | re infix:<~~>, oh, there's enough mm to do that. ie, fixed arity, no optional or named args, class-not-value based. | ||
defining ~~ in the prelude won't actually get it called at the moment, unless you call it directly in GLOBAL::, but I was originally thinking of doing that this evening. | 22:57 | ||
pmurias | this = infix:<~~> | 22:58 | |
? | |||
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dolmen | perl6: my $a = 'Z'; my $b = $a; $a++; say ($a gt $b).perl; | 22:58 | |
p6eval | kp6 r20841: OUTPUT[syntax error at position 27, line 1 column 27:my $a = 'Z'; my $b = $a; $a++; say ($a gt $b).perl ^ HERE] | ||
..pugs: OUTPUT[Bool::False] | |||
..rakudo r28443: OUTPUT[Bool::False] | |||
..elf r20841: OUTPUT[syntax error at ./elf_f_faster line 3160, near ") ~"syntax error at ./elf_f_faster line 3161, near "))"syntax error at ./elf_f_faster line 3162, near "}elsif"Global symbol "$m" requires explicit package name at ./elf_f_faster line 3162.Execution of ./elf_f_faster aborted | |||
..due to compila... | 22:59 | ||
mncharity | multi infix:<~~>(Blah $a,Blip $b){...} lather rinse repeat | ||
pmurias | upgrading evalbot to perl5.10 would fix it | ||
shower& | |||
TimToady | pmurias: your program now works on my ++$a; file | 23:00 | |
mncharity | problem is, instead of =~ , a nonspec 'can do anything we want it to' op being hardwired into the emitter, that's now been changed to ~~ . so... after the fork, will revert. | ||
Auzon | 5.10's infix:<~~> is slightly different in subtle ways from what I remember. The Perl 6 meaning changed sometime before 5.10 was released, so ~~ doesn't follow the P6 meaning in P5. | ||
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dolmen | rakudo: say 'A'..^'AA' | 23:01 | |
p6eval | rakudo r28443 OUTPUT[A] | ||
mncharity | the "so..." elaborates as 'which is rather an obstacle to then doing ~~ right'. | ||
dolmen | rakudo: say 'A'..'AA' | ||
p6eval | rakudo r28443 OUTPUT[A] | ||
pmurias | mncharity: =~ is speced | 23:02 | |
mncharity | pmurias: ooo, htanks for the unicode fix | 23:03 | |
and the autobox... hmm... does that mean the feather autobox needs to be upgraded as well? | 23:04 | ||
re '=~ is speced', ? | |||
pmurias | mncharity: it's speced not to be valid | ||
pugs: my $a;$a =+ 3;say $a; | 23:05 | ||
p6eval | OUTPUT[3] | ||
pmurias | pugs: my $a;$a = ~ 3;say $a; | ||
p6eval | OUTPUT[3] | ||
pmurias | pugs: my $a;$a =~ 3;say $a; | ||
p6eval | OUTPUT[***  Unexpected "3" There is no =~ operator in Perl 6 -- did you mean ~~ (match) or ~= (concat-assign)? at /tmp/MXG4gIk6C0 line 1, column 13] | ||
Auzon | pugs: say "foo" . "bar" | 23:06 | |
p6eval | OUTPUT[***  Unexpected "." expecting operator, ":" or "," at /tmp/woxbsc3lZL line 1, column 11] | ||
pmurias | as a way of catching a mistake cause by a perl5 mindset | ||
s/mindest/usage/ | |||
Auzon | same with .length | ||
mncharity | pmurias: "it's speced not to be valid". ah, ok. happily it will eventually go away when real regex support gets added. it could certainly be replaced with something non-prohibited, like ==~ , but that would be silly. | 23:10 | |
TimToady | and everything else in STD that calls .obs | ||
mncharity | pmurias: misc/elfish/elf_p/ an ok name for the fork? | 23:12 | |
pmurias | p meaning p(murias)? | 23:16 | |
mncharity | re r20789, so autobox had a minor rev 'old api breaks even though it would be trivial to keep it working' change? eep... 2.53? that's just sooo wrong. | 23:17 | |
TimToady | pmurias: there seems to be a bug in your program, parsing "++$a;\n" it nests sigil 4 deep for some reason | ||
mncharity | re p, or whatever. open to suggestions. or you can simply rename it of course. | 23:18 | |
TimToady | the yaml output only shows one level of sigil, not 4 | ||
pmurias | k | ||
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pmurias | TimToady: found it $<sigil> = $<variable><sigil> | 23:24 | |
TimToady: why do you do it? | |||
TimToady | the assignment operator has to know whether it should parse as list or item assignment | 23:28 | |
and that depends on whether the sigil is '$' | |||
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pugs_svnbot | r20842 | putter++ | [elf] Copy elf/elf_f_src to elfish/elf_p/ . An experimental fork for pmurias++. | 23:30 | |
TimToady | it should probably just propagate the text of the sigil, not the node | 23:31 | |
mncharity | Actually, that might have been better as elf_x - ie, a non-stable development branch. ah well. | ||
pmurias | TimToady: yes | 23:32 | |
TimToady | I'll take a look at it sometime, so don't worry about it | 23:33 | |
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dolmen | rakudo: say ('a'..'z').chars | 23:38 | |
p6eval | rakudo r28445 OUTPUT[Method 'chars' not found for invocant of class 'Range'current instr.: '_block11' pc 49 (EVAL_14:20) | ||
dolmen | rakudo: say ('a'..'z').perl.chars | ||
p6eval | rakudo r28445 OUTPUT[8] | ||
TimToady | .chars should be another one of those methods that has an Any variant that coerces to Str | 23:39 | |
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dolmen | rakudo: my $a = 'a'..'z'; say $a.chars | 23:39 | |
p6eval | rakudo r28445 OUTPUT[Method 'chars' not found for invocant of class 'Range'current instr.: '_block11' pc 70 (EVAL_14:27) | ||
dolmen | rakudo: my Str $a = 'a'..'z'; say $a.chars | ||
p6eval | rakudo r28445 OUTPUT[Type check failedcurrent instr.: 'parrot;Perl6Object;infix:=' pc 59 (src/gen_builtins.pir:51) | ||
TimToady | rakudo: say ~('a'..'z') | ||
p6eval | rakudo r28445 OUTPUT[get_string() not implemented in class 'Range'current instr.: 'prefix:~' pc 11061 (src/gen_builtins.pir:7401) | ||
dolmen | rakudo: say (~('a'..'z').chars) | 23:40 | |
p6eval | rakudo r28445 OUTPUT[Method 'chars' not found for invocant of class 'Range'current instr.: '_block11' pc 49 (EVAL_14:20) | ||
dolmen | rakudo: say (~('a'..'z')).chars | ||
p6eval | rakudo r28445 OUTPUT[get_string() not implemented in class 'Range'current instr.: 'prefix:~' pc 11061 (src/gen_builtins.pir:7401) | ||
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TimToady | if bare ~ doesn't work, adding a .chars won't make it better | 23:42 | |
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TimToady | perl6: say ('a'..'z').join.chars | 23:43 | |
p6eval | kp6 r20842: OUTPUT[syntax error at position 4, line 1 column 4:say ('a'..'z').join.char ^ HERE] | ||
..pugs: OUTPUT[26] | |||
..rakudo r28445: OUTPUT[Method 'join' not found for invocant of class 'Range'current instr.: '_block11' pc 49 (EVAL_14:20) | |||
..elf r20842: OUTPUT[syntax error at ./elf_f_faster line 3160, near ") ~"syntax error at ./elf_f_faster line 3161, near "))"syntax error at ./elf_f_faster line 3162, near "}elsif"Global symbol "$m" requires explicit package name at ./elf_f_faster line 3162.Execution of ./elf_f_faster aborted | |||
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TimToady | perl6: say ['a'..'z'].join.chars | 23:44 | |
p6eval | kp6 r20842: OUTPUT[syntax error at position 4, line 1 column 4:say ['a'..'z'].join.char ^ HERE] | ||
..pugs: OUTPUT[26] | |||
..rakudo r28445: OUTPUT[2001] | |||
..elf r20842: OUTPUT[syntax error at ./elf_f_faster line 3160, near ") ~"syntax error at ./elf_f_faster line 3161, near "))"syntax error at ./elf_f_faster line 3162, near "}elsif"Global symbol "$m" requires explicit package name at ./elf_f_faster line 3162.Execution of ./elf_f_faster aborted | |||
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diakopter | rakudo: 2001...? | ||
p6eval | rakudo r28445 OUTPUT[Statement not terminated properly at line 1, near "...?"current instr.: 'parrot;PGE::Util;die' pc 120 (runtime/parrot/library/PGE/Util.pir:82) | ||
TimToady | ooh, rakudo is on a space odyssey | ||
dolmen | rakudo: say (~(('a'..'z').list)).chars | 23:45 | |
p6eval | rakudo r28445 OUTPUT[2001] | ||
dolmen | rakudo: say (~(('a'..'y').list)).chars | ||
p6eval | rakudo r28445 OUTPUT[49] | ||
dolmen | rakudo: say (~(('A'..'Y').list)).chars | ||
p6eval | rakudo r28445 OUTPUT[49] | ||
dolmen | rakudo: say ('A'..'Y').list | ||
p6eval | rakudo r28445 OUTPUT[ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXY] | ||
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p6eval | rakudo r28445 OUTPUT[A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y] | ||
diakopter | rakudo: say ~(('A'..'Y').list.pick) | ||
p6eval | rakudo r28445 OUTPUT[Method 'pick' not found for invocant of class 'List'current instr.: '_block11' pc 58 (EVAL_14:21) | ||
diakopter | pugs: say ~(('A'..'Y').list.pick) | 23:48 | |
p6eval | OUTPUT[P] | ||
diakopter | pugs: say ~(('R','A','K','U','D','O').list.pick) | 23:49 | |
p6eval | OUTPUT[K] | ||
diakopter | pugs: say ~(('R','A','K','U','D','O').list.pick) | ||
p6eval | OUTPUT[K] | ||
diakopter | pugs: say ~(('R','A','K','U','D','O').list.pick) | ||
p6eval | OUTPUT[R] | ||
TimToady | perl6: say ('a'..'y').cat | ||
p6eval | kp6 r20842: OUTPUT[syntax error at position 4, line 1 column 4:say ('a'..'y').ca ^ HERE] | ||
..pugs: OUTPUT[*** Unimplemented unaryOp: cat at /tmp/6x0LBEdYR3 line 1, column 5 - line 2, column 1] | |||
..rakudo r28445: OUTPUT[Method 'cat' not found for invocant of class 'Range'current instr.: '_block11' pc 49 (EVAL_14:20) | |||
..elf r20842: OUTPUT[syntax error at ./elf_f_faster line 3160, near ") ~"syntax error at ./elf_f_faster line 3161, near "))"syntax error at ./elf_f_faster line 3162, near "}elsif"Global symbol "$m" requires explicit package name at ./elf_f_faster line 3162.Execution of ./elf_f_faster aborted | |||
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Auzon | diakopter: try <r a k u d o> instead ;) | ||
diakopter | pugs: say ~(('rakudo').split('').pick) | 23:50 | |
p6eval | OUTPUT[r] | ||
diakopter | pugs: say ~(('rakudo').split('').pick) | ||
p6eval | OUTPUT[u] | ||
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p6eval | rakudo r28445 OUTPUT[Method 'pick' not found for invocant of class 'List'current instr.: '_block11' pc 47 (EVAL_12:20) | ||
dolmen | pugs: <rakudo>.split('').pick.say | ||
p6eval | OUTPUT[d] | ||
diakopter | rakudo: say ~(('rakudo').split('')) | ||
p6eval | rakudo r28445 OUTPUT[r a k u d o] | ||
dolmen | pugs: <rakudo>.split('').pick.say | ||
p6eval | OUTPUT[k] | ||
TimToady | perl6: say 'rakudo'.comb(/./).pick | ||
p6eval | kp6 r20842: OUTPUT[syntax error at position 17, line 1 column 17:say 'rakudo'.comb(/./).pic ^ HERE] | 23:51 | |
..pugs: OUTPUT[k] | |||
..rakudo r28445: OUTPUT[Method 'comb' not found for invocant of class 'Perl6Str'current instr.: '_block11' pc 45 (EVAL_12:22) | |||
..elf r20842: OUTPUT[syntax error at ./elf_f_faster line 3160, near ") ~"syntax error at ./elf_f_faster line 3161, near "))"syntax error at ./elf_f_faster line 3162, near "}elsif"Global symbol "$m" requires explicit package name at ./elf_f_faster line 3162.Execution of ./elf_f_faster aborted | |||
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TimToady | split '' is so perl 5... | ||
diakopter | well it doesn't have chars | ||
oh wait it does | |||
oh wait that's even wrong; heh | 23:52 | ||
rakudo: say ~(('rakudo').split('').item.perl) | 23:53 | ||
p6eval | rakudo r28445 OUTPUT[["r", "a", "k", "u", "d", "o"]] | ||
mncharity | "split '' is so perl 5..." :) | 23:55 | |
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