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samcv yay I finally got travis to spit out coverage stats travis-ci.org/samcv/MoarVM/builds/...6397#L1051 00:05
timotimo ttttttttravis 00:07
nan% covered <3 00:08
samcv heh
timotimo in green
because why not
i'm making progress with the moarvm MVMObject pretty-printer
samcv well it has no functions in the file
timotimo even though i didn't expect it at all
MVMObject * (IterationBuffer) of repr VMArray = {...}, data=0x7ffff4d6dc60, value=..., kind=8) 00:14
i have no idea why the data= is there, or what the value= is supposed to be ... and i also don't really know why kind= is in there? 00:15
oh 00:16
that's the rest of the function arguments
(gdb) print root[0] 00:17
$2 = 0x7ffff7dbed40
MVMObject (IterationBuffer) = {0x7ffff7d23060
MVMObject * (Scalar), 0x7ffff7d23060
MVMObject * (Scalar)}
that's not even bad!
the hex values are debug prints 00:18
but having "Scalar" for every entry is a bit rubbish :) :)
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timotimo $1 = MVMObject * (array[int]) = {476821, 476822, 476823, 476824, 476825, 476826, 476827, 476828, 476829, 476830, 00:20
yay~
oh ... pretty printing MVMHash from inside python code using gdb will be ... fun :( 00:22
but first: P6opaque
samcv and i figured out how to only include certain files now 00:25
can supply it a list of files. so using find ./src -name '*.c' | grep -v unicode.h 00:26
err .c. cause that has our whole unicode database in it. so not gonna do that one for now
timotimo yeah, that's probably good :) 00:31
samcv thanks travis
when i tried to print out coverage stats for all src .c files except unicode db file 00:32
/Users/travis/.travis/job_stages: eval: line 54: syntax error: unexpected end of file 00:34
it's only 80,000 lines. they could have at least had some kind of normal error message or something if i can't print out 80,000 lines 00:36
well i'm very close to getting it to put each file coverage in a seperate html file. so then after i do that, will figure out how way to upload it somewhere 00:39
timotimo \o/ 00:42
hum. how do i teach gdb that "if this value is to be stringified, it has its STable living at this other address"? 00:43
samcv no clue 00:45
timotimo maximum shrug ...
like, i'd have to introspect the flattened stables to figure out what byte size a given attribute has, and its signedness 00:46
(if it's an int)
samcv F A N C Y 00:49
cry.nu/coverage/
check it out timotimo 00:50
timotimo that's rad!
samcv \o/
timotimo everything is red :o 00:51
oh
just bad luck selecting a .c file
cry.nu/coverage/coverage/home/sama...ain.c.html ?? 00:52
samcv that's in moar binary not libmoar.so 00:53
the ones that are missing were either added in the last day or are files that i need to run the command on moar binary not libmoar.so
there are only a few of them
maybe can come up with something with tables 00:54
so can have the index of filenames and also show the overall file stats
without having to process tons of files into new formats and do a ton of work 00:55
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samcv timotimo, uploading new files now 00:57
this is really awesome tho :-) very happy
raschipi timotimo: I got a 404 from your last link 00:58
samcv not anymore raschipi
i just generated the ones that are in the moar binary and not in libmoar.so (which has 95% of the files in it)
timotimo raschipi: that's why i "??"'d ti
raschipi Yep, thanks. Never seen a snappier bugfix before. 00:59
samcv if there's any missing now, let me know and i'll try and figure out how to make it generate for that
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samcv and these coverage are for the nqp test suite fyi 00:59
timotimo pretty cool.
self.val.hello = "bar" 01:01
AttributeError: 'gdb.Value' object has no attribute 'hello'
aren't i supposed to be able to put any new field on a python object that i want?
geekosaur no 01:03
at least, not like that
samcv also cry.nu/coverage/report-libmoar.html 01:04
this is an overview
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timotimo that looks really good 01:04
per-function is a lot nicer than just per-file
samcv yeah
and here is cry.nu/coverage/report-moar.html for moar. which only has main.c on it. otherwise is blank 01:05
timotimo yeah, probably not interesting at all
samcv will have to find some way to get those combined somehow
timotimo unless we want to cover moar's option parser
nah, forget it
samcv main.c has pretty low coverage
hahah 01:06
timotimo main.c has pretty low impact
samcv yeah
well we could cover it and just write some moar tests or something idk
to try the different options and such.
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u-ou my $re = rx/\S+/; $_ ~~ $re and say $/ for lines; 01:23
m: my $re = rx/\S+/; $_ ~~ $re and say $/ for lines;
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u-ou why does $/ end up as Nil there?
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timotimo the and might put the postfix for loop after the and 01:32
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beginner_p6 hello 01:32
timotimo i.e. it'll do the regex match, and then say $/ for each line
beginner_p6 is there a way to suspend and resume tasks in perl6 01:33
timotimo m: my $re = rx/\S+/; ($_ ~~ $re and say $/) for lines
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timotimo m: my $re = rx/\S+/; ($_ ~~ $re).say for lines
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u-ou m: my $re = rx/\S+/; for lines() { if $_ ~~ $re { say $/ } } 01:47
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u-ou still Nil 01:47
m: my $re = rx/\S+/; for lines() { if $_ ~~ /$re/ { say $/ } } 01:48
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timotimo i can finally drive myself and my friends home
u-ou But that's not what I want.
maybe it's what I'm supposed to do? 01:49
timotimo m: my $re = rx/\S+/; for lines() { if $_ ~~ /$re/ { .say } }
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»Um die siebente Stund‘, am Brückendamm.«
»Am Mittelpfeiler.«
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timotimo ah, if
m: my $re = rx/\S+/; for lines() { if $_ ~~ $re -> $_ { .say } }
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u-ou I'm talking about whether $/ gets populated
timotimo mhm
too tired to think 01:50
u-ou and it seems you have to use m{} or // to do so
so I wonder how it works with precompiled regexes
but I should probably just shut-up and jam it into a new regex
timotimo m: my $re = rx/\S+/; for lines() { if $re.match($_) { $/.say } }
camelia Cannot resolve caller match(Regex: Str); none of these signatures match:
(Any:U $: | is raw)
in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1
timotimo sorry, ask again when i've had sleep 01:51
u-ou ok :)
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u-ou ahh 01:54
it matters because with /$pat/ you don't get $pat's captures
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u-ou m: my $pat = rx/(\S+)/; for lines() { if /$pat/ { say $/[0]; } } 01:55
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u-ou I guess I need to assign the match to a variable 01:59
but that seems odd
works though 02:00
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u-ou m 02:26
it seems that $/ is populated with ~~ $!attr 02:27
so I'm confused :P
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u-ou wait 02:32
bah, idk
m: my $pat = rx/(\S+)/; my $v = 'hi'; if $v ~~ $pat { say $/; } 02:36
camelia ｢hi｣
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u-ou m: my $pat = rx/(\S+)/; for lines() -> $v { if $v ~~ $pat { say $/; } }
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u-ou that's pretty weird, no? 02:37
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Zoffix u-ou: yeah, it's a bug. 02:51
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Zoffix .tell AlexDaniel commitable seems to choke on `mc: my $pat = rx/(\S+)/; <a b c>.map: { if $_ ~~ $pat { say $/; } }` Pings out. And even after I killed it and restarted it, it choked again. 02:57
yoleaux Zoffix: I'll pass your message to AlexDaniel.
AlexDaniel . 02:59
yoleaux 02:57Z <Zoffix> AlexDaniel: commitable seems to choke on `mc: my $pat = rx/(\S+)/; <a b c>.map: { if $_ ~~ $pat { say $/; } }` Pings out. And even after I killed it and restarted it, it choked again.
AlexDaniel mc: my $pat = rx/(\S+)/; <a b c>.map: { if $_ ~~ $pat { say $/; } } 03:00
committable6 AlexDaniel, ¦2015.12: «｢a｣␤ 0 => ｢a｣␤｢b｣␤ 0 => ｢b｣␤｢c｣␤ 0 => ｢c｣»
AlexDaniel Zoffix: the build for 2015.12 was left behind by something 03:01
timotimo i love how there's a single bug with the tag "BELL"
because it has \c[BELL] in its title
Zoffix hm OK 03:02
AlexDaniel mc: my $pat = rx/(\S+)/; <a b c>.map: { if $_ ~~ $pat { say $/; } }
committable6 AlexDaniel, ¦2015.12: «｢a｣␤ 0 => ｢a｣␤｢b｣␤ 0 => ｢b｣␤｢c｣␤ 0 => ｢c｣»
timotimo i wonder if bugs with [BUG] [BUG] in their title count twice toward the count of BUG tagged bugs
AlexDaniel Zoffix: it's weird… seems that it wasn't deleted by committable itself
Zoffix: in any case, there's sometimes some info in committable.log 03:03
Zoffix: and if it complains about some path already existing, it has to be deleted :)
Zoffix OK 03:04
timotimo: possibly: github.com/zoffixznet/r6/blob/mast...ets.pm#L11
timotimo ah, looks like 03:05
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AlexDaniel slaps committable6 03:07
committable6: stop misbehaving! 03:08
committable6 AlexDaniel, ¦stop: «Cannot find this revision (did you mean “Echt”?)»
AlexDaniel Echt misbehaving?
committable6: Echt misbehaving!
committable6 AlexDaniel, gist.github.com/8e268cc0ae63972328...a66ec00b79
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Zoffix Well, shit. The bug u-ou found affects &infix:<~~>, Cool/Str.subst-mutate, Cool/Str.subst, Grammar.parse, Grammar.parse-file, Grammar.subparse 04:07
On the bright side: I know that because I found what causes it and about to compile a fix :)
u-ou yay! 04:09
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samcv Zoffix, you can link to cry.nu/coverage/ 04:25
somewhere on perl6.wtf or something 04:26
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samcv argh need to make it so the right iframe actually changes the whole page not just in that frame 04:29
Zoffix done 04:31
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samcv cool 04:31
yay new coverage stats are up now :-D thanks Zoffix @ the perl 6 cov ones 04:32
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samcv will eventually be able to get seperate coverage report per test as well, down the line. i mean i know how to do it now, but will get the other stuff automated first 04:40
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Zoffix m: my $re = rx/\S+/; $_ ~~ $re and say $/ for lines; 04:51
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Zoffix u-ou: ^ there. Fixed forever!
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u-ou Zoffix :D 05:12
samcv almost done automating generation of the coverage stats. feeling accomplished today 05:14
fixed forever?
u-ou :)
samcv heh
we always need Moar cover 05:15
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Geth doc: cc496eb4a9 | (Zoffix Znet)++ | doc/Language/5to6-perlfunc.pod6
[io grant] Remove mention of IO.umask
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doc: 335a98d72d | (Zoffix Znet)++ | doc/Type/IO.pod6
[io grant] Remove mention of `role IO`

Still need to move all the routines documented in IO.pod6 to appropriate files before nixing IO.pod6 file altogether. For now, at least remove the mention that role IO is a thing.		 05:57
samcv woo. coverage is now automated. less work for me yay 05:58
will the script is automated from start to finish. still need to find a way for travis to upload it to my site, but that is for tomorrow 05:59
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Geth doc: cc6539bcfb | (Zoffix Znet)++ | doc/Type/IO/Handle.pod6
[io grant] Remove 8 methods from IO::Handle

Removes .e, .d, .f, .s, .l, .r, .w, and .x		 06:48
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travis-ci Doc build failed. Zoffix Znet '[io grant] Remove 8 methods from IO::Handle 07:23
travis-ci.org/perl6/doc/builds/217704379 github.com/perl6/doc/compare/335a9...6539bcfba9
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samcv idk is there a remove method magic thig 07:26
like how you can add them
docs.perl6.org/language/mop
probably one that will let you remove one
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u-ou tired 08:13
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samcv me too 08:24
sammers hi all 08:28
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u-ou I'm slowly reading about grammars. looks good. 08:32
hi sammer 08:33
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samcv Zoffix, was link not previously documented? 08:39
Zoffix samcv: I guess it was (not sure how I missed it), but it has the same problem as the docs for symlink 08:44
samcv but the order was not what our other commands were
Zoffix it's currently implemented as $link, $target, but it's documented as $target, $link, with the prose confused about what "target" means. 08:45
samcv yeah. for sure 08:46
argh tired. night everybody
Zoffix all the other related routines and command line tools use $existing-thing, $new-thing format (so that's $target, $link for &link/&symlink)
night
samcv ugh feel like i'm getting sick. hope i'm not
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Do not use non-existent IO::Handle.IO
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moritz lol I blogged: perlgeek.de/blog-en/perl-6/2017-01...ython.html 09:24
featuring some borderline meta programming :-)
in unrelated news, it looks like "Perl 6 by Example" will be published through a major tech publisher, both in print and ebook form 09:30
which means I'll have to pull it from leanpub, but those who purchased it there can get a free ebook version once it's done 09:31
lizmat moritz: good news! :-) 09:35
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[io grant] Document IO::Spec::*.tmpdir
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moritz lizmat: indeed
I see it as an experiment
the royalties are a factor 4 to 8 lower than on leanpub, so it'll be interesting to see if the increased exposure and print form can make up for that 09:38
Geth doc: db366552a2 | (Zoffix Znet)++ | doc/Language/variables.pod6
[io grant] Remove tip to use $*SPEC to detect OS

We have $*DISTRO for that purpose		 09:40
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[io grant] Expand docs for $*HOME and $*TMPDIR
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lizmat moritz: maybe leanpub should rename itself to royalty8pub :-) 09:51
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Voldenet wouldn't it be better if travis-ci was connecting to a znc or something 10:16
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roshanali Hi there! Can any body tell me about a nice IDE for perl6. I know about Padre but thats for perl5. 11:21
lizmat swears by vi, but that's just because her fingers have grown that way :-) 11:22
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roshanali Hi! Can you please tell me about a nice IDE for perl6. I know about Padre but thats for perl5. 11:26
lizmat perhaps github.com/perl6/Atom-as-a-Perl6-IDE ? # Zoffix++ 11:28
roshanali Thanks lizmat 11:42
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tbrowder hi, #perl6 13:05
since vars docs are being touched, how do folks feel about alphabetizing the various lists of variables as is it's not always easy to find the one you're looking for. 13:06
s/is it/it/ 13:07
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Geth perl6-most-wanted: 3055a0fa93 | (Tom Browder)++ | most-wanted/modules.md
change module name, add 3 WIPs

correct name to Net::ACME2 (ACME is an acronym, add '2' to avoid confusion with Perl 5 version 'Net::ACME') add two more WIPs		 13:24
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AlexDaniel hmmm, RT #131089 is a dup I think, does anybody remember the other ticket? 13:38
synopsebot6 Link: rt.perl.org/rt3/Public/Bug/Display...?id=131089
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AlexDaniel is it RT #124553 or was there anything else? 13:40
synopsebot6 Link: rt.perl.org/rt3/Public/Bug/Display...?id=124553
AlexDaniel RT #125353 ? 13:41
synopsebot6 Link: rt.perl.org/rt3/Public/Bug/Display...?id=125353
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RabidGravy somewhat warnocked on the github.com/sergot/http-useragent/pull/170 - minded to merge but could do with other input 14:17
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tbrowder ref IO::Handle docs: I don't see the s, f, or d methods documented there. shouldn't they be? 15:24
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tbrowder also what about IO::Handle methods modified and other time-type methods? 15:39
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tbrowder never mind, i see them in IO::Path, but maybe they could all be mentioned in Language/File Input/Output--thoughts? 15:48
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Voldenet but does IO::Handle do them? 15:55
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Voldenet oh, it does 15:56
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Voldenet hm, that's really puzzling, yeah, especially that IO::Path and IO::Handle are actually not even related 15:58
(so it'd seem when looking at type graphs) 16:04
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Geth doc: 14ab6b5156 | (Tom Browder)++ | doc/Language/io.pod6
Add more method info with examples
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tbrowder hi, Voldenet. I saw the same thing you saw about the type graphs, but there is a reference to them on the same page. Let me find it. 16:11
Voldenet hm, "See also the related class IO::Path" 16:14
tbrowder Ok, on role IO doc it mentions related classes IO::Handle and IO::Paths and it shows the IO::Handle but not the IO::Path. a bug maybe? hm, I can't find IO::Path in the same type graph with any of the others. AlexDaniel?? 16:16
Ach! Zoffix is modifying stuff on IO::Handle--I hope I haven't messed that up! 16:19
AlexDaniel tbrowder: yes, Zoffix probably has a better answer 16:20
tbrowder: he hangs around on #perl6-dev
tbrowder I think what I added so far is ok, but I'll check with Z. 16:21
Geth doc: 8e063c57d9 | (Tom Browder)++ | doc/Language/io.pod6
add the missing ".IO"s
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Geth doc: 8bb22903ac | (Tom Browder)++ | doc/Language/io.pod6
remove spurious '<'
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Geth doc: 262bdd727f | (Tom Browder)++ | doc/Language/io.pod6
wording tweak
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ParsonsNose Quick style question. Which of these do you guys consider better (or is there a better way of doing this I missed?) a) `$_ = ~m/^'# '?(.+)$/[0] given @ls[l];` or b) `@ls[l] .=&{ ~$0 given m/^'# '?(.+)$/ }` ? 20:03
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ParsonsNose I'm just not sure how I feel about the `.=&{` pseudo-operator... 20:06
moritz that one feels weird to me
m/ ^ '# '? <( .+ $ / and $_ = ~$/ 20:07
or just $_ = @ls[l].subst(/^ '# '/) 20:08
timotimo moritz: doesn't that need a , '' in there, too?
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moritz timotimo: where? 20:09
timotimo subst
does subst have a one-arg candidate?
moritz oh right
$_ = @ls[l].subst(/^ '# '/, '') 20:10
timotimo i could totally see '' as a good default value for subst's second arg
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ParsonsNose That looks much cleaner, tnx 20:10
moritz timotimo: but then we could name it .remove :-) 20:11
timotimo yeah 20:12
well, i think in python you'd use .lstrip('# ') for that, even though it'd then also strip off " " or "###" or " # "
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AlexDaniel ParsonsNose: sometimes $smth.match(…) reads nicer 20:32
ParsonsNose: and it could very well be $smth .= match(…) 20:33
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AlexDaniel oh wait, that will get us a match object… 20:37
oops!
subst is the right answer then
m: my @l = ‘foo’, ‘# abc’; @l[1] .= subst(/^‘# ’/, ‘’); say @l[1]'
camelia 5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>
Two terms in a row
at <tmp>:1
------> 3; @l[1] .= subst(/^‘# ’/, ‘’); say @l[1]7⏏5'
expecting any of:
infix
infix stopper
postfix
statement e…
AlexDaniel m: my @l = ‘foo’, ‘# abc’; @l[1] .= subst(/^‘# ’/, ‘’); say @l[1]
camelia abc
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Zoffix ParsonsNose: personally, I wouldn't even use a regex there. 23:30
m: my @l = ‘foo’, ‘# abc’; $_ .= substr: 2 when .starts-with: '# ' for @l; say @l 23:31
camelia [foo abc]
Zoffix wishes .= foo assumed $_ invocant :/
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ParsonsNose m: class Inty is Int { method ho { self + 7 } } ; my Inty $hi .= new: 6 ; say $hi.ho 23:53
camelia Type check failed in assignment to $hi; expected Inty but got Int (6)
in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1
ParsonsNose m: my $hi = 4 but role { method ho { say self + 1 } } ; say $hi.ho 23:54
camelia 5
True
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