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Geth ecosystem: scmorrison++ created pull request #349:
Uzu migrated to github		 01:25
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Geth ecosystem: 0b28ab15db | (Sam Morrison)++ | META.list
AWS::Pricing META.info > META6.json
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ecosystem: 78e99866dd | (Sam Morrison)++ | 7 files
Uzu migrated to github
ecosystem: 068ee70275 | (Moritz Lenz)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | META.list
Merge pull request #349 from scmorrison/master

Uzu migrated to github
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ufobat timotimo, so what could i do to resolve this? 06:45
file a bugreport, or?
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andrzejku_ hi 13:15
I want to ask something you 13:16
x)
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lizmat andrzejku_: what was the question 13:23
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andrzejku_ I am doing small script for the personal use, but I got idea how to move into commercial way however it is very experimental if someone can review my code from time to time I would be happy 13:26
it is perl6 13:27
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lizmat andrzejku_: is it gistable ? 13:36
andrzejku_ lizmat, yes but it is private 13:38
lizmat do I need to sign an NDA ? 13:39
andrzejku_ lizmat, no I don't think so D: 13:40
lizmat ok, then make a proivat
private gist and send me the url in a privmsg 13:41
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dogbert17 .seen moritz 14:00
yoleaux I saw moritz 2 Jul 2017 20:35Z in #perl6: <moritz> you're welcome
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moritz last saw moritz when looking at the keyboard, and noticing his hands there 14:05
dogbert17 moritz: do you think that I could take relevant parts of the material from design.perl6.org/S26.html#Pod_comments and add to the recently commited doc for Pod::Block::Comment? 14:07
the Pod documentation at docs.perl6.org is currentlu a bit lacking IMHO 14:11
*currently
hmm, otoh there's quite a bit of documentation here, docs.perl6.org/language/pod#Pod_comments, perhaps that's enough 14:16
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moritz nods his head 14:19
dogbert17 so perhaps the class documentation can stay the way it is, i.e. somewhat terse 14:22
will add a few more missing classes to the doc, e.g. Table 14:24
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Geth doc: b7f3f2c34d | (Jan-Olof Hendig)++ | doc/Type/Pod/Block/Table.pod6
Added docs for Pod::Block::Table
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dogbert17 m: dd $=POD 14:43
camelia 5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>
Pod variable $=POD not yet implemented. Sorry.
at <tmp>:1
------> 3dd $=POD7⏏5<EOL>
dogbert17 :(
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melezhik Hi! 14:59
Say I handle in CATCH block, how can I print the stacktrace?
.Str.say is not enough for me ... 15:00
timotimo docs.perl6.org/type/Exception#method_backtrace
melezhik handle -> handle an exception 15:01
thanks timotimo: will take a look
jnthn .say (without the .Str) includes a bt too, iirc
melezhik ok jnthn: thanks , this one works 15:03
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raschipi melezhik: it's not much a stacktrace in p6 because the frames may be moved to the heap if they are closed over (turned into a closure). That's why it's called "backtrace". 15:13
melezhik ok, thanks I'm awared now
raschipi If that doesn't make sense, just ignore it.
I just said it so you're more likely to remember the name next time you need it. 15:14
melezhik yeah, it's not that important in my case, I only want to get as much as possible at the log in case any errors, and this seems work for me
ok, sure
thanks for clarification 15:15
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travis-ci Doc build errored. Jan-Olof Hendig 'Added docs for Pod::Block::Table' 15:29
travis-ci.org/perl6/doc/builds/249657419 github.com/perl6/doc/compare/88421...f3f2c34d0a
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Skarsnik Hello 16:04
timotimo yo! 16:07
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Skarsnik I am curious, is there a map of the nqp function? I am trying to find die 16:08
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timotimo you mean nqp::blah to moar instruction to moarvm source code? 16:09
github.com/MoarVM/MoarVM/blob/mast...rp.c#L1217
it's just MVM_exception_die that gets called
jnthn Or if nqp:: op docs, there's docs in the NQP repo on many of them 16:10
Skarsnik I don't know, I am trying to find what get called when there is a nqp::die ^^ 16:12
I am trying to figure rt.perl.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=127345
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timotimo does it actually have a proper line annotation for that piece of code, or do we pretend it's the same line? 16:14
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timotimo you'd be able to figure this out with writing it to an mbc file and moar --dump ing that 16:18
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Geth doc: 55e1043268 | (Jan-Olof Hendig)++ | doc/Type/Supply.pod6
Expanded the documentation for 'stable'. timotimo++, jnthn++
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Skarsnik timotimo, not sure how to dump thing with moar 16:44
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raschipi Skarsnik: moar --dump 16:48
MasterDuke Skarsnik: perl6 --target=mbc --output=foo.mbc -e 'say "hi"'; moar --dump foo.mbc
Skarsnik Oh thx :)
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linuksz how can i pass an object to a subroutine? 16:53
mst the_sub($the_object); 16:55
linuksz my $scalar = MyObject.new;
MySub($scalar); 16:56
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linuksz it passes a reference, don't it? 16:56
raschipi the signature of the subroutine will determine how it's passed 16:58
linuksz what should be the signature for passing the object, not $scalar 16:59
?
raschipi If $scalar has the object in it, that's the object. 17:00
linuksz i have two arrays @first_array contains pointers for objects. i want modify these objects with a subroutine and make a @second_array, that contains the modified object 17:01
raschipi If you want a copy, use 'is copy', if you want to change it in place, use 'is rw'.
linuksz but it modifies the scalar containing the reference, don't? 17:02
i want to modify a copy of the object
if ($scalar is copy), it makes two reference for the same object, don't? 17:03
raschipi No, it will copy the object. The derreference is automatic.
timotimo uh
raschipi Maybe I'm confused too? 17:04
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timotimo m: class Test { has $.foo is rw }; sub changetest($param is copy) { $param.foo = 99 }; my $thing = Test.new(foo => 1); say $thing.perl; changetest($thing); say $thing.perl 17:04
camelia Test.new(foo => 1)
Test.new(foo => 99)
timotimo it only copies the scalar variable
raschipi Oh, OK. I'm the one confused. 17:05
timotimo normally you get a read-only "copy" of the container, so you can't change the variable's contents
with "is copy" you get a read-write copy of the container, so you can change what the variable contains 17:06
raschipi But the objects have a separate property that says if you can write to them or not.
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timotimo and with "is rw" you get the variable without the read-only change, so whatever you change the variable to will also change on the caller's side 17:06
only the scalar variables have that 17:07
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linuksz ok, but if it is copy, or rw, it will change the object, or the scalar containing the reference? 17:07
timotimo well, attributes like "$.foo" in my example also have the "is rw" flag you can set
this is only about the variable, i.e. "what does the variable reference"
objects have to implement any change-prevention themselves 17:08
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raschipi linuksz: So, every object has a .clone method that returns a shallow copy. Maybe that's what you want? 17:13
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linuksz yes. 17:16
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travis-ci Doc build errored. Jan-Olof Hendig 'Expanded the documentation for 'stable'. timotimo++, jnthn++' 17:25
travis-ci.org/perl6/doc/builds/249700224 github.com/perl6/doc/compare/b7f3f...e104326896
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timotimo looks like it just hung 17:26
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Skarsnik timotimo, no annotation for an instruction at the line that has the second part of the if condition 17:29
timotimo aha 17:30
in that case that's because we don't keep line numbers around for every kind of qast node
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Skarsnik so it's in the parser, where the ast is created? 17:32
lambd0x Hi there. I've after testing what I reported yesterday regarding win use of perl6 with zef module manager. paste.ubuntu.com/25012613/. It fails for the last version either using rakudobrew or the latest release of Rakudo Star (2 releases ago) 17:33
timotimo either that or the compiler where the .node attribute of the relevant nodes are ignored
Skarsnik brb dinner 17:34
timotimo can you have a look if "zef --debug update" has more interesting output? 17:35
oh
if things go correct it doesn't output anything form e
aha, it's ZEF_PLUGIN_DEBUG 17:36
lambd0x: can you set that env var to 1 or so and see what it outputs
lambd0x timotimo: how should I do it? 17:37
timotimo: never done it before :P 17:38
timotimo env ZEF_PLUGIN_DEBUG=yes zef update
lambd0x timotimo: ok :D 17:39
timotimo most shells let you do that wihtout writing "env" in front
lambd0x will be right back
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Lambd0x Hi. In Win I suppose there isn't a way to set env var for zef or it's different. 17:45
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timotimo oh 17:46
i think you just have to write set ZEF_PLUGIN_DEBUG=yes
and in the next line the zef command
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Lambd0x didn't work. I had tried it too already :D 17:48
timotimo :(
i don't know how to windowses
Lambd0x haha
It's a bit tricky this problem 17:49
timotimo it should be easy to do :\
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Lambd0x I will try getting a Bash environment for windows to see if then I'm able to do this. 17:50
timotimo huggable: windows 17:52
huggable timotimo, nothing found
timotimo huggable: bash on windows
huggable timotimo, nothing found
timotimo hrm
there's a command you have to run to allow it to work with executable stack disabled 17:53
but i can't find it right now
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Skarsnik hm 18:06
skarsnik@debian:~/perl6/rakudo$ ./install/bin/perl6 --target=ast --output=foo.ast piko.p6 18:07
===SORRY!===
cannot stringify this
geekosaur huggable, bash on windows :is: sudo execstack -c /usr/lib/libmoar.so
huggable geekosaur, Added bash on windows as sudo execstack -c /usr/lib/libmoar.so
Skarsnik is that a bug or I am just doing something bad?
geekosaur (it's in there as "win10 bash")
timotimo seems like we just don't support --output with --target=ast 18:08
Skarsnik I guess it only keep the line for statement in QAST::Op(if) <sunk> :statement_id<?> if 1 eq 2 \n\t|| $a.piko 18:11
?
zengargoyle what's a -- (foo => $bar)x!!$bar -- replacement in a function call as a named param? 18:14
timotimo i think we only keep Stmt and/or Stmts
zengargoyle: what? :)
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zengargoyle do-something( a=>"b", (c=>$x)x!!$x ); only do c=>$x if $x is true/defined/exists 18:15
timotimo i wonder where that syntax comes from 18:16
anyway, you'd |%($x ?? c => $x !! ()) probably
Skarsnik do you want the ast output? 18:17
zengargoyle the p5 Enterprise (NC-1701) operator is '()x!!'
timotimo some kind of flattening of a hash in any case
zengargoyle i thought i saw a cool ( .... if .... ) sort of construct somewhere. prolly from Zoffix :) 18:18
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timotimo oh, yeah, you can put that inside the ( ), too 18:20
m: say (a => 1 if 1)
camelia a => 1
Lambd0x timotimo: pastebin.com/SwGUPWNd 18:21
timotimo Possible Spam Detected - fantastic 18:22
Lambd0x it seems to require: wget and curl. But Rakudo Star didn't come with it.
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timotimo no, not "and" 18:23
it just uses the powershell web request thing instead
Lambd0x it also says metacpan plugin is not enabled hence it fails at last 18:24
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timotimo i don't know what's wrong there, it should be able to grab that five just fine? 18:26
the ecosystems/master/cpan.json
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zengargoyle timotimo++ both ??!! and if work inside |%() but if is a few chars shorter. :) 18:27
Lambd0x timotimo I said it appears to be tricky. 18:28
linuksz how can i print of an object's variable's value? 18:29
m: class Test { has $.var }; my $object = Test.new($var => "nothing"); say "$object.var"
camelia 5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>
Variable '$var' is not declared. Did you mean '&VAR'?
at <tmp>:1
------> 3st { has $.var }; my $object = Test.new(7⏏5$var => "nothing"); say "$object.var"
timotimo you have to spell it var => "nothing"
geekosaur m: class Test { has $.var }; my $object = Test.new(var => "nothing"); say "$object.var.WHAT"
camelia Test<34265360>.var.WHAT
geekosaur heh
timotimo and in the quotation marks you will have to put () after the method call
geekosaur m: class Test { has $.var }; my $object = Test.new(var => "nothing"); say $object.var.WHAT
timotimo or it won't interpolate
camelia (Str)
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linuksz m: class Test { has $.var }; my $object = Test.new(var => "nothing"); say "$object.var" 18:30
camelia Test<36350176>.var
linuksz i want it to say "nothing" 18:31
geekosaur m: class Test { has $.var }; my $object = Test.new(var => "nothing"); say $object.var
camelia nothing
geekosaur m: class Test { has $.var }; my $object = Test.new(var => "nothing"); say "$object.var()"
camelia nothing
moritz say "$object.var()" should also work
evalable6 (exit code 1) 04===SORRY!04=== Error while compiling /tmp/Tld6f2faVL
Variable '$object' is not declared
at /tmp/Tld6f2faVL:1
------> 03say "08⏏04$object.var()" should also work
moritz too slow
evalable6: I didn't want it evaluated
evalable6 moritz, Full output: gist.github.com/c7749a13e6165cab3d...fd4197b5c8
(exit code 1) 04===SORRY!04=== Error while compiling /tmp/DWM3WFRqms
Undecla…
geekosaur heh
m: class Test { has $.var }; my $object = Test.new(var => "nothing"); say "{$object.var}" 18:32
camelia nothing
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linuksz thanks 18:32
timotimo you have to say "thanks for nothing" :D 18:33
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andrzejku do you know something about equivalent numpy for perl6? 19:14
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Skarsnik interesting skarsnik@debian:~/perl6/rakudo$ ack-grep "annotated" give me some definition but never a use for the method 19:23
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MasterDuke Skarsnik: try src/vm/moar/QAST/QASTCompilerMAST.nqp:2053: in NQP 19:25
moritz that's the definition, not a use 19:26
which seems to be Skarsnik's point
yes, looks like dead code
MasterDuke oops, reading comprehension fail 19:27
Skarsnik and I don't find a call for annotate('line' or annotate('file'
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MasterDuke an annotate method is called in rakudo and nqp in a bunch of different places 19:33
src/mast/compiler.c:935-936: in MoarVM also looks to be marking file/line info
Skarsnik annotate yes 19:34
but not annotated
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MasterDuke right, don't see any .annotated( method calls anywhere 19:35
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El_Che andrzejku: if you come to yapce, Dana Jacobsen is the man to talk about that 19:38
yoleaux 2 Jul 2017 00:52Z <zengargoyle> El_Che: you might want to add at least the site directory to PATH so that scripts intalled by zef can be found.
2 Jul 2017 01:20Z <zengargoyle> El_Che: do you want 2 different install_zef scripts?
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timotimo melezhik: we have shaped native arrays, which is much like a numpy ndarray 19:48
melezhik: and a lot of functions numpy offers you can just do with hyper operators and such
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kybr what is the difference between Num and num? 20:26
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Skarsnik num is probably a native type 20:28
kybr okay. i'm playing with an example that's using SDL2::Raw and NativeCall, so probably one of those is defining num? 20:30
Skarsnik hm 20:34
should probably be num32 or num64? I don't remember much
num exist I think 20:35
m: my num $b = 42; say $b;
camelia This type cannot unbox to a native number: P6opaque, Int
in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1
Skarsnik m: my num32 $b = 42; say $b;
camelia This type cannot unbox to a native number: P6opaque, Int
in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1
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Skarsnik m: my num32 $b = 42; say $b; 20:36
camelia This type cannot unbox to a native number: P6opaque, Int
in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1
raschipi m: my num $b = 42e0; say $b;
camelia 42
raschipi m: my num $b = 42e0; say $b;
camelia 42
Skarsnik yeah this notation
m: use NativeCall; sub foo is native(num $a);
camelia 5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>
Two terms in a row
at <tmp>:1
------> 3use NativeCall; sub foo is native(num7⏏5 $a);
expecting any of:
infix
infix stopper
statement end
statement mo…
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Skarsnik m: use NativeCall; sub is native foo(num $a); 20:37
camelia 5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>
Missing block
at <tmp>:1
------> 3use NativeCall; sub is7⏏5 native foo(num $a);
expecting any of:
new name to be defined
raschipi 42e0 is mantissa 42 and exponent 0, which has the value 42 * 10 ** 0
Skarsnik m: use NativeCall; sub foo(num $a) is native;
camelia 5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>
A unit-scoped sub definition is not allowed except on a MAIN sub;
Please use the block form.
at <tmp>:1
------> 3e NativeCall; sub foo(num $a) is native;7⏏5<EOL>
Skarsnik m: use NativeCall; sub foo(num $a) is native{ * }; 20:38
camelia 5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>
A unit-scoped sub definition is not allowed except on a MAIN sub;
Please use the block form.
at <tmp>:1
------> 3iveCall; sub foo(num $a) is native{ * };7⏏5<EOL>
Skarsnik whatever I don't remember xD
but Nativecall will warn you if you put a bad type in a native sub
kybr okay. thanks. FYI, i was looking at this: www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=1167456 20:39
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geekosaur space needed 20:42
it thinks the {*} is a parameter to 'is native'
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geekosaur and it does need a parameter, which is the C symbol 20:43
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Skarsnik I think it's ... not * 20:52
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geekosaur * is correct for the body. not correct for the is native(what) 20:55
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geekosaur and the is native ate the { * } as a parameter because you needed a space before it to indicate it was not a parameter to 'is native', so then the compiler complained that the *sub* had no block 20:56
sorry, the parameter isn;t a symbol, it's a shared object 20:57
is native('foo') => look for libfoo.so, libfoo.dylib, or foo.dll depending on platform
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Skarsnik m: use NativeCall; sub foo(num $a) is native { * }; 21:02
camelia 5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>
Cannot resolve caller infix:<==>(NQPMu, Int); none of these signatures match:
($?)
(\a, \b)
(Real \a, Real \b)
(Int:D \a, Int:D \b)
(int $a, int $b)
(Num:D \a, Num:D \b …
Skarsnik oh right the space
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Skarsnik m: use NativeCall; sub foo(num $a) is native("foo") { * }; 21:03
camelia 5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>
Cannot resolve caller infix:<==>(NQPMu, Int); none of these signatures match:
($?)
(\a, \b)
(Real \a, Real \b)
(Int:D \a, Int:D \b)
(int $a, int $b)
(Num:D \a, Num:D \b …
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geekosaur now I think we have an LTA... 21:06
m: use NativeCall; sub foo(num32 $a) is native("foo") { * };
camelia ( no output )
geekosaur LTA for a bad native type 21:07
Skarsnik hm 21:08
probably my code 21:09
should have been seen at the test?
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_p____ Hey is there a reason why the page rakudo.org/how-to-get-rakudo/ says the latest rakudo star is 2017.01 but in the download directory I can see 2017.04.2 ? 21:13
( I mean the release for windows ) 21:15
Skarsnik hm 21:20
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timotimo yeah, that looks kinda wrong 21:27
Skarsnik I got a lot of Parse errors: No plan found in TAP output
for Nativecall test when running make test
timotimo thankfully the download gives you the right file 21:28
Skarsnik: that's a crash before the "plan" has been output
Skarsnik /04-nativecall/16-rt125408.t ............ Dubious, test returned 1 (wstat 256, 0x100) 21:29
No subtests run
is that a crash too?
timotimo looks like 21:30
Skarsnik nvm I mess up my rakudo x) 21:33
m: use NativeCall; sub badnum2(num $a) { * }; 21:35
camelia ( no output )
Skarsnik m: use NativeCall :All; sub badnum2(num $a) { * }; check_routine_sanity(&badnum2); 21:36
camelia 5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>
Error while importing from 'NativeCall': no such tag 'All'
at <tmp>:1
------> 3use NativeCall :All7⏏5; sub badnum2(num $a) { * }; check_rout
Skarsnik m: use NativeCall :ALL; sub badnum2(num $a) { * }; check_routine_sanity(&badnum2); 21:37
camelia Cannot resolve caller infix:<==>(NQPMu, Int); none of these signatures match:
($?)
(\a, \b)
(Real \a, Real \b)
(Int:D \a, Int:D \b)
(int $a, int $b)
(Num:D \a, Num:D \b --> Bool)
(num $a, num $b --> Bool)
(…
_p____ timotimo: true but I had 2017.01 and was checking the page without even bothering to click the linking thinking the windows release was delayed... until today
Skarsnik interesting, the test does not fail
m: use NativeCall :ALL; sub badnum2(num $a) { * }; CONTROL { when CX::Warn { .die } }; check_routine_sanity(&badnum2); 21:38
camelia Cannot resolve caller infix:<==>(NQPMu, Int); none of these signatures match:
($?)
(\a, \b)
(Real \a, Real \b)
(Int:D \a, Int:D \b)
(int $a, int $b)
(Num:D \a, Num:D \b --> Bool)
(num $a, num $b --> Bool)
(…
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Skarsnik I am confused, why camelia fail on that but the test does not fail 21:40
timotimo yeah, let me have a look
_p____ anyway, looking forward to jnthn's IO improvement in the next release hopefully.
Cheers
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Skarsnik ok it fail when using from the command line 21:41
timotimo i updated the download page up on rakudo.org 21:43
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Skarsnik nvm 21:45
the test expect a die xD 21:46
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user3 why doesn't this code work at the command line(it works when put in a file): perl6 -e "'myfile'.IO.lines ~~ m:g/mypattern/; for @$/ -> $x {say ~$x}" 21:46
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geekosaur because you are on a unix and shells interpolate $ in double quoted strings 21:47
so the shell ate both the '$x's 21:48
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user3 ok, let met try again... 21:48
geekosaur (or a unixy shell on windows)
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user3 good. I've fixed it and it works now: perl6 -e '"myfile".IO.lines ~~ m:g/mypattern/; for @$/ -> $x {say ~$x}' 21:49
I just exchanged the quotes 21:50
lol
Skarsnik m: say num.HOW.^can("nativesize"); 21:51
camelia nativesize
user3 by the way, is @$/ ther best way to get the results from a m:g match?
Skarsnik m: say num.HOW.^can("nativesize"); say num.HOW.^nativesize; 21:52
camelia nativesize
X::Method::NotFound exception produced no message
in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1
Skarsnik Did this stuff get changed somehow?
m: say num32.HOW.^can("nativesize"); say num32.HOW.^nativesize; 21:54
camelia nativesize
X::Method::NotFound exception produced no message
in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1
Skarsnik m: say num32.HOW.^can("nativesize"); say num32.^nativesize;
camelia nativesize
32
Skarsnik m: say num.HOW.^can("nativesize"); say num.^nativesize; 21:55
camelia nativesize
No such method 'gist' for invocant of type 'NQPMu'. Did you mean 'isa'?
in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1
Skarsnik should the .^can("nativesize") return false? I think it was the old behavior?
geekosaur that, or nativesize should produce a perl6 undef instead of an NQP undef 21:57
or possibly both
Skarsnik I use it to check for valid type in NC 21:58
return False if T.HOW.^can("nativesize") && T.^nativesize == 0; #to disting int and int32 for example
it's this line that produce the infix error
geekosaur right. it could be argued either way, either all types implement nativesize but it should be either (Int) or a Failure; or it should not exist. I suspect internals are cleaner if it is always defined though 22:00
er, if .^nativesize method always exists
but it should produce something more p6-friendly
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Skarsnik using Int is bad 22:02
if you want an example of why gist.github.com/Skarsnik/d4e9b31b2859114ac643 ^^ 22:04
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geekosaur er? this is not that case 22:05
nativesize is implemented by the MOP, not by a dylib
Skarsnik I know, but it show why accepting Int in native sub is bad ^^
anyway, checking for nativesize was my hacky way to disting int and int32, but now it return always something with can 22:06
geekosaur right, I'm saying the new case is to see if the result of ^nativesize is defined 22:08
except that it's producing an NQP undef instead of a perl 6 undef, so it explodes
Skarsnik It's compile time check, I don't remember if you can check for def or not 22:09
lizmat and another Perl 6 Weekly hits the net: p6weekly.wordpress.com/2017/07/03/...-on-speed/
Skarsnik this code was very annoying to write
nice :)
geekosaur in that case it's even worse that it is producing NQPMu instead of something you can test 22:10
Skarsnik m: say int.^nativesize === Mu:U;
camelia Cannot resolve caller infix:<===>(NQPMu, Mu:U); none of these signatures match:
($?)
(\a, \b)
(Int:D \a, Int:D \b)
(int $a, int $b)
(Num:D \a, Num:D \b)
(num \a, num \b --> Bool)
(Str:D \a, Str:D \b --> Bool)
…
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Skarsnik damn, time to go to bed 22:14
will check more this tomorrow
geekosaur m: say int.^nativesize === NQPMu;
camelia 5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>
Undeclared name:
NQPMu used at line 1
geekosaur figures 22:15
oh
m: use MONKEY-GUTS; say int.^nativesize === NQPMu;
camelia 5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>
Undeclared name:
NQPMu used at line 1
geekosaur sigh
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geekosaur m: use MONKEY-GUTS; say nqp::defined(int.^nativesize) 22:16
camelia 0
timotimo the best thing is how it interprets the ~ in the shell's prompt as "strike through all the following lines please" 22:17
geekosaur .tell Skarsnik use MONKEY-GUTS; say nqp::defined(int.^nativesize) #`{ which is why it should be a p6 undef not nqp } 22:18
yoleaux geekosaur: I'll pass your message to Skarsnik.
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