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meppl good morning 08:12
moritz moin 08:27
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riffraff hi 09:13
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Tene riffraff: Hi! 09:14
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jdv79 Is there any news of late? I haven't seen any. 14:43
offby1 glances around nervously.
jdv79 anyone picked up the summaries yet? 14:48
kolibrie not that I know of
thoughtpolice from my logs it's been slow for the past day or so
i count nine lines of actual text since about this time yesterday. 14:49
offby1 line number ten! 14:50
thoughtpolice well, nine up to this line: 03:48 < jdv79> Is there any news of late? I haven't seen any.
so you came in at 11. :( 14:51
jdv79 is there a root "todo" list anywhere? 14:53
moritz iirc there was one on dev.pugscode.org 14:55
but trac is disabled :(
"implement perl 6" is our root todo list ;)
jdv79 ... 14:57
thoughtpolice short, sweet, to the point. 15:05
i love it. :)
kolibrie and then our motto: "optimize for fun" 15:06
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rindolf use.perl.org/~Shlomi+Fish/journal/33492 - "Specifying Plugins for Helper Objects" - any comments? 16:00
lambdabot Title: Journal of Shlomi Fish (918)
ashleyb I'm trying to understand the disjunctive and conjunctive types of 'any()' & 'all()', so I'm working through some examples in Perl 5 in search.cpan.org/~dconway/Quantum-Su...sitions.pm -- I'm trying the 'True love' example, but I cannot figure it out, is that a typo in damian's example or should it work. Here's what I'm playing with: sial.org/pbot/25493 16:03
lambdabot Title: Quantum::Superpositions - QM-like superpositions in Perl - search.cpan.org, tinyurl.com/6xa3d
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ashleyb no matter what I try to put in the if() statement there to match '$ideal' it won't match 16:04
any suggestions?
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ashleyb is there a way to match a superposition of the form 'all(any(@a), any(@b))' 16:06
ehh excuse me, I meant 'any(all(@a), all(@b))' 16:08
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rindolf ashleyb: if you have != then yes. 16:13
ashleyb hmm 16:14
but from what I can see, they will always be not equal, as in 'any(all(1,2), all(3,4)) != all(@x)' is always true 16:15
for all values of @x
and even any values of @x
same goes for: 'any(all(1,2), all(3,4)) != any(@x)' 16:16
rindolf ashleyb: or < or whatever. 16:17
ashleyb: or myfunc(any(all,all)) == something.
Assuming Damian's Q-S module go as far.
ashleyb yeah, so am I right in thinking damian's example is misleading? 16:18
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ashleyb basically this is always true: all(@x) != all(@y) # even when @x := @y 16:19
hmm 16:20
maybe that's not true
if @x only has one value
and or if: @x := @y = (any(@set), any(@set)); 16:21
but assuming the values of @x are not junctive types
and that @x has more than one value, that 'all(@x) != all(@x)' 16:22
qed: I conclude Damian's example is wrong. 16:23
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gaal anyone know how to get svnbot to start with reporting old commits? 17:13
moritz no, just don't do that ;)
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[particle] gaal: trolling for karma? 17:13
gaal heh. for continuity and transparency 17:14
we'd lost about a week's worth of announcements
moritz just re-enable trac 17:17
then anybody can see them online
gaal irc isn't online enough for you? :)
moritz ;)
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[particle] is the svn log available online? 17:24
gaal modulo trac :/ 17:26
moritz not as long as trac is disable
[particle] how about svnweb, does that give a log?
too bad if it doesn't
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avar svn::www ftw 17:45
rindolf Hi gaal 17:46
Hi avar
avar: does SVN::WWW give you URL translation - right-clickable URLs of the actual repository.
a?
avar: that's one killer feature of SVN::RaWeb::Light (my own module) that I didn't see implemented anywhere. 17:47
avar I don't remember, but I'm sure it's trivial to add 17:51
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Aankhen`` Henceforth, I shall refer to ?? !! as "nod-nod shake-shake". 19:47
thoughtpolice @remember Aankhen`` Henceforth, I shall refer to ?? !! as "nod-nod shake-shake". 19:58
lambdabot Done.
thoughtpolice :)
Aankhen`` ^_^ 19:59
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riffraff hi 20:43
offby1 so they say. 20:45
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ron__ ?say "running" 22:52
lambdabot Maybe you meant: faq map slap src
[particle] ?eval say "running" 22:53
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evalbot_r16653 OUTPUT[running␤] Bool::True 22:53
ron__ ?eval say "running"
evalbot_r16653 OUTPUT[running␤] Bool::True
ron__ ?eval class Bozzle {has $.a = 2; has $!a = 4;} my $c = Bozzle.new; say $c.a; 22:55
Tene ?eval say "running"
evalbot_r16653 OUTPUT[4␤] Bool::True
OUTPUT[running␤] Bool::True
ron__ anyone see the problem with the Bozzle class line I just posted ? 22:56
Tene You're trying to have a public and private variable with the same name.
ron__ It originally came from redefining a class. I could understand an error but returning the assignment to the private var seems surprising to me. 22:58
[particle] yes, that seems like it should emit a warning, or throw an exception
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[particle] (probably the latter, although the former is an exception, too) 22:59
ron__ I have a few other similar examples. If there is no objection I will probably post on perl6-compiler. 23:02
[particle] please do. feel free to write failing tests, check them in, and post.
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meppl good night 23:11

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