|
pugscode.org/ | nopaste: sial.org/pbot/perl6 | pugs: [~] <m oo se> (or rakudo:, kp6:, smop: etc.) || We do Haskell, too | > reverse . show $ foldl1 (*) [1..4] | irclog: irc.pugscode.org/ Set by TimToady on 25 January 2008. |
|||
|
00:17
iblechbot left
00:21
zamolxes left
00:22
fridim_ joined
00:27
eternaleye joined
00:29
hcchien left
00:31
devogon left
00:47
alc joined
|
|||
| TimToady | wow, an ipv6 addr | 00:50 | |
| alc | :) | 00:51 | |
| TimToady | sorry I had to kick you the other day, but your bot was doing something funny... | 00:52 | |
| alc | i'm sorry for that | ||
| just loaded a crappy script | |||
| TimToady | I'll bet it was written in a crappy language :) | 00:53 | |
| alc | perl5, FYI :) | ||
| TimToady | I was right... | ||
| I'm afraid, though, that it will still be possible to write buggy programs in Perl 6... | 00:55 | ||
| but they'll be *better* bugs :) | 00:56 | ||
|
00:58
alester_ left,
cnhackTNT joined
|
|||
| TimToady | let's see, given the fact that you're using ipv6, and that you just came on, I'd say you're coming from somewhere in the neighborhood of china | 00:58 | |
| alc | not neighborhood | 00:59 | |
| TimToady | :) | ||
| alc | just china | ||
| morning~ | |||
| TimToady | ä½ ę© | 01:01 | |
| alc | ę© :) | 01:02 | |
| TimToady | that's about the limit of my chinese, I'm afraid, though I know a lot of characters from looking at japanese | ||
| I keep telling myself I'll learn Mandarin as soon as I get fluent in Japanese, but that'll probably never happen... :) | 01:03 | ||
| anyway, ę¬¢čæ | 01:04 | ||
| alc | thanks larry. | 01:05 | |
| how did you input those chinese characters? | |||
| TimToady | in this case, I pasted them from my dictionary, though I do have a japanese input method I can use | 01:06 | |
| but that tends to use traditional rather than simplified | |||
| and is missing a lot of characters from your point of view anyway... :) | |||
| I'm sure that someday I'll work around to putting up a Mandarin input method as well | 01:07 | ||
| alc | for that i recommend scim... =) | 01:08 | |
| TimToady | that's what I'm using | ||
|
01:09
Auzon joined,
SamB left
01:10
SamB joined
01:12
nipotaway is now known as nipotan
|
|||
| TimToady | alc: which input method do you use under scim? | 01:12 | |
| alc | currently, code.google.com/p/scim-python/ | 01:13 | |
| lambdabot | Title: scim-python - Google Code | ||
| alc | once used the 'official' scim-chinese/scim-pinyin | 01:15 | |
| TimToady | I suppose I should stick with the more official one for occasional use | 01:16 | |
| xinming | TimToady: We normally use scim-pinyin in mainland, Some people also uses WuBi, But in TW, people uses other input methods, For WuBi, You'd better live in China to learn WuBi easily. And also, If you want the real original Chinese language. I suggest you stick with Traditional Chinese. :-D | 01:19 | |
| TimToady | I mostly learn the traditional characters in Japanese too, though sometimes they have variants that are neither Traditional nor Simplified | 01:20 | |
| å for instance | 01:21 | ||
| xinming | Those are very small evolution during spreading of Chinese. :-D | 01:23 | |
|
01:26
hcchien joined
01:30
justatheory left
01:53
lyokato joined
01:58
silug left
02:18
xinming left
02:22
tobeya left
02:26
monomorph left
02:42
alc left
02:48
justatheory joined
03:22
PerlJam left,
PerlJam joined
03:23
Juerd left,
Juerd joined,
gugod left,
gugod joined
03:29
FurnaceBoy joined
03:31
wknight8111 is now known as wknight-away
03:39
thoughtp1lice joined,
mncharity left
03:50
wknight-away left
03:51
peepsalot left
03:52
thoughtpolice left,
thoughtpolice joined
03:53
peepsalot joined
03:57
Limbic_Region left
04:08
thoughtp1lice left
04:17
RayMagini left
04:20
RayMagini joined
04:38
justatheory left
04:39
FurnaceBoy left
05:13
cnhackTN1 joined
05:16
cnhackTNT left
05:21
cnhackTNT joined
05:28
cnhackTN1 left
05:36
araujo left
05:37
monomorph joined
06:03
thoughtpolice left
06:07
DarkWolf84 left
06:08
pbuetow joined
06:18
Daveman left
06:30
fridim_ left
06:58
devogon joined
06:59
njbartlett left
07:04
pbuetow left
07:05
Schwern joined
07:15
masak joined
07:22
JDlugosz joined
|
|||
| JDlugosz | Hello! | 07:22 | |
| perl6: "123ab456" ~~ ?/\d+/; | 07:24 | ||
| Anybody here? | |||
| exp_evalbot | kp6: OUTPUT[syntax error at position 11, line 1 column 11:ā¤"123ab456" ~~ ?/\d+/ā¤ ^ HEREā¤] | ||
| ..pugs: OUTPUT[Out of memory!ā¤] | |||
| ..rakudo: RESULT[Method 'perl' not found for invocant of class 'Boolean'ā¤current instr.: '_block10' pc 35 (EVAL_11:16)ā¤called from Sub 'parrot;PCT::HLLCompiler;eval' pc 778 (src/PCT/HLLCompiler.pir:457)ā¤called from Sub 'parrot;PCT::HLLCompiler;evalfiles' pc 1052 (src/PCT/HLLCompiler.pir:584)ā¤called | |||
| ..from Sub 'parrot;PCT::HLLCompiler;command_line' pc 1231 (... | |||
| JDlugosz | Tons of people online, but I don't se e any chatter. | 07:26 | |
| If anyone reads this later, please check out my Pugs question at <www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=670523>. | 07:27 | ||
| I've got "real-world" work to do, but I'll leave this IRC open for a while. | 07:28 | ||
|
07:29
JDlugosz left
07:32
JDlugosz joined
|
|||
| JDlugosz | <-- changed servers. | 07:32 | |
| masak | perl6: "123ab456" ~~ /\d+/ | ||
| exp_evalbot | kp6: OUTPUT[syntax error at position 11, line 1 column 11:ā¤"123ab456" ~~ /\d+ā¤ ^ HEREā¤] | ||
| ..pugs: OUTPUT[Out of memory!ā¤] | |||
| ..rakudo: RESULT[Method 'perl' not found for invocant of class 'PGE::Match'ā¤current instr.: '_block10' pc 35 (EVAL_11:16)ā¤called from Sub 'parrot;PCT::HLLCompiler;eval' pc 778 (src/PCT/HLLCompiler.pir:457)ā¤called from Sub 'parrot;PCT::HLLCompiler;evalfiles' pc 1052 | |||
| ..(src/PCT/HLLCompiler.pir:584)ā¤called from Sub 'parrot;PCT::HLLCompiler;command_line' pc 123... | |||
| masak | pugs: "123ab456" ~~ /\d+/ | 07:33 | |
| exp_evalbot | OUTPUT[Out of memory!ā¤] | ||
| JDlugosz | hello masak. | ||
| masak | hi there JDlugosz | ||
| I'm reading your question now | |||
| JDlugosz | What's wrong with that line? position 11 is the space after the quote. | ||
| masak | where do you get the `?` from? | ||
| JDlugosz | Is it normal to be so quiet here with so many logged on? Or am I having a server problem or everyone in private chats? | 07:34 | |
| masak | I don't remember having to put one of those there. | ||
| JDlugosz: it is fairly normal | |||
| JDlugosz | The ? is to force boolean context so the match gives me true/false, and prevents a void context. | ||
| masak | this used to be a high-trafic channel, and many are still interested | ||
| JDlugosz | used to be? | ||
| masak | hm | ||
| yes | |||
| I know that `?` boolifies, but I wouldn't have thought to put it before the regex | 07:35 | ||
| JDlugosz | So why is there a huge list of people logged on? | ||
| masak | are you sure that's specced? just checking | ||
| JDlugosz: because many people are interested in #perl6 and quite a few used to be active | 07:36 | ||
| JDlugosz | That is an example from the OReilly book. It introduces it to prevent accidental void context, and then using ? or + to specify what kind of answer. | ||
| masak | nowadays, it's much of a ghost town of logged-in but quiet users | ||
| JDlugosz | So what is the user list? I thought those were people logged on to the channel. | ||
| masak | JDlugosz: any book you might have is often wildly out-of-date | ||
| not saying that's the case here, just a reminder of that | 07:37 | ||
| JDlugosz: they are. they're just not paying attention | |||
|
07:37
Daveman joined
|
|||
| JDlugosz | Yes, I'll keep that in mind. But I got errors from Pugs, not syntax errors etc. So one problem at a time. | 07:37 | |
| masak | many computer users have a stationary computer somewhere where they can be logged in to IRC all the time | ||
| JDlugosz: sure | 07:38 | ||
| JDlugosz | Hmm, whithout the ? it still can't find a library. | ||
| masak | I think pugs should be able to handle regexes | ||
|
07:38
pbuetow joined
|
|||
| masak | you'd probably do best to try the tests and see what is covered | 07:38 | |
| JDlugosz | But it returns a Match.new object after giving the error. | ||
| masak | are you familiar with running tests? | 07:39 | |
| JDlugosz | Yes, I thought Pugs was good with 'rules'. | ||
| masak | not sure it is, actually | ||
| JDlugosz | No, I'm not. I downloaded the 't' directory though. I suppose you just run them like any other code file? | ||
| masak | I remember it doing p5 regexes without problem at some point | ||
| JDlugosz: yes | |||
| JDlugosz | More telling is the content is good examples of what works. | ||
| masak | JDlugosz: you can do `make test` but that runs the whole test suite | 07:40 | |
| JDlugosz: the tests are good examples of what works | |||
| JDlugosz | I installed the Win32 binary, did not build myself. | ||
| masak | hm | ||
| you can do `p6prove t/path/file.t` to run individual test files | 07:41 | ||
| JDlugosz | Hmm, why would it know that this is a p5 regex? I thought it defaulted to rules, and I did not use an adjective. | ||
| masak | JDlugosz: yes, sure | ||
| it's just that things are under construction and, in the case of pugs, left in a half-finished state | 07:42 | ||
| so things don't always work according to spec | |||
|
07:42
Aankhen`` joined
|
|||
| JDlugosz | Well, the book does that, so maybe it autodetects simple cases. | 07:43 | |
| My immediate problem is getting Pugs to load the libraries correctly. | 07:44 | ||
| The INC doesn't match...? | |||
| masak | JDlugosz: my guess is that the eventual answer you will get from people who know more than I do is, that something in Pugs is broken and might not get fixed until someone finds massive tuits to do it | ||
| but on the other hand, it might just be a library problem | |||
| JDlugosz | Is there any newsgroup or forum for Pugs? | 07:45 | |
|
07:46
xinming joined
|
|||
| JDlugosz | still there, masak? | 07:47 | |
| masak | yes | ||
| JDlugosz: apart from #perl6? perl6-users might be it | |||
| JDlugosz | Thanks. | ||
| masak | np | 07:48 | |
| JDlugosz | I'm going to "ghost" myself a bit, and check back later to see if there was any traffic. | ||
| masak | good idea. | ||
| good luck | |||
| JDlugosz | I guess there is no social protocol for that here? I remember saying "AFK" (away from keyboard) or being able to put a mark on the name in the logged-on list. | 07:49 | |
| masak | you can do either, or neither. it's up to you | 07:52 | |
| but generally on IRC, it's a good idea to assume that a user is not immediately available, unless she has said something in the last minute or so. | |||
|
07:53
arcady left
07:56
njbartlett joined
07:57
njbartlett_ joined
08:04
njbartlett__ joined,
iblechbot joined
08:17
pbuetow left
08:23
njbartlett left
08:27
njbartlett_ left
08:28
pmurias joined
08:29
njbartlett__ left
|
|||
| pmurias | @tell mncharity did you sv(k|n) add Emit::AstYaml? | 08:31 | |
| lambdabot | Consider it noted. | ||
|
08:35
cosimo joined
08:42
JDlugosz left
08:55
njbartlett joined
09:20
njbartlett left
09:21
lumi left
09:22
zakame joined,
zakame left
09:23
alc joined,
pbuetow joined
09:38
DarkWolf84 joined
09:46
lumi joined
09:52
alc left
09:58
njbartlett joined
10:07
ruz_ joined,
ruz left
10:23
njbartlett left
10:25
ebassi joined
10:28
chris2 joined
|
|||
| cognominal_ | rakudo: my ($a); | 10:33 | |
| exp_evalbot | OUTPUT[No scope found for PAST::Var '$a'ā¤current instr.: 'parrot;PCT::HLLCompiler;panic' pc 158 (src/PCT/HLLCompiler.pir:103)ā¤called from Sub 'parrot;PAST::Compiler;post_children' pc 1117 (src/PAST/Compiler.pir:138)ā¤called from Sub 'parrot;PAST::Compiler;as_post' pc 1312 | ||
| ..(src/PAST/Compiler.pir:222)ā¤called from Sub 'parrot;PAST::Compiler;post_chi... | |||
|
10:55
masak` joined,
masak left,
masak` is now known as masak
10:59
marmic left
11:01
lyokato left
11:03
marmic joined
11:08
cnhackTNT left
11:27
chris2_ joined
11:43
chris2 left
11:59
iblechbot left
12:03
njbartlett joined
12:15
wknight-away joined
12:22
zamolxes joined,
njbartlett_ joined
12:23
nipotan is now known as nipotaway
12:26
njbartlett left
12:30
chris2_ left
12:43
zakame joined,
araujo joined
12:48
njbartlett_ left
12:57
sordith_ joined
12:58
iblechbot joined
13:01
alester_ joined
13:03
njbartlett joined
13:04
cmarcelo joined
13:07
sordith left,
sordith_ is now known as sordith
13:09
manon joined,
alester_ left
13:11
DarkWolf84 left
13:27
njbartlett left
13:57
zakame left
14:00
njbartlett joined
14:08
devogon_ joined
14:10
devogon left
14:12
zakame joined
14:15
zakame left
14:42
jhorwitz joined
14:44
FurnaceBoy joined
14:50
monomorph left,
njbartlett left
14:53
TJCRI joined
15:07
FurnaceBoy left
|
|||
| moritz_ | somebody (I think GPenguin) asked what's up with me... | 15:20 | |
| $dayjob with no IRC allowed, and no internet after that :( | |||
|
15:26
bbkr_ joined
15:27
Auzon left,
bbkr left
15:41
orafu left
16:03
peeps[work] joined
16:06
peepsalot left
16:08
peepsalot joined
16:10
peepsalot left
16:11
zamolxes left,
kanru left,
peepsalot joined
16:12
falesca joined,
zakame joined
16:14
zakame left,
peepsalot left
16:15
peepsalot joined
16:20
peeps[work] left
16:22
mj41 left
16:23
peepsalot left
16:24
njbartlett joined
|
|||
| diakopter | ruoso: ping | 16:26 | |
|
16:26
charsbar left
16:30
charsbar joined
16:39
peepsalot joined
|
|||
| ruoso | diakopter, pong | 16:41 | |
|
16:42
peepsalot left
|
|||
| diakopter | ruoso: someone mentioned to me scheme48. are you familiar with it? (sorry if it's a dumb question) | 16:43 | |
|
16:43
peepsalot joined
|
|||
| ruoso | diakopter, not really | 16:44 | |
|
16:44
peeps joined
|
|||
| ruoso | diakopter, any aspect in particular that I should take a closer look on? | 16:45 | |
| diakopter | he read the smop wiki entries and said, "oh, that's scheme48" | ||
|
16:46
koo` joined
|
|||
| diakopter | sorry for the hearsay. :) I'm sure something got lost in the retransmission. | 16:46 | |
| ruoso | heh | 16:47 | |
|
16:47
peeps left
|
|||
| ruoso | it's interesting because I had heard the same regarding to smalltalk as well | 16:47 | |
|
16:47
peeps joined
16:48
peeps left
16:50
manon left
|
|||
| ruoso | I wish I could merge more the smalltalk and scheme48 communities with smop | 16:50 | |
|
16:50
peeps joined
16:51
njbartlett left
16:53
peeps left
|
|||
| spinclad aol's | 16:53 | ||
| pmurias | ruoso: in what way? | ||
|
16:54
peeps joined
16:56
justatheory joined
16:58
Zaqq joined
|
|||
| Zaqq | hi all. can we externalize strings from text files like JSPs for instance, easily using some perl script magic? | 16:59 | |
| obra | Zaqq: you may want #perl | ||
| (If you're working in a released version of Perl) | |||
|
17:01
peeps left
17:03
peeps joined
17:04
peeps left
17:09
mj41 joined
17:11
masak left
|
|||
| spinclad | Zaqq: #perl on irc.perl.org | 17:15 | |
| Zaqq | obra: spincladi: i tried asking in perl ... but they pointed me to java lol | ||
|
17:16
cosimo left
|
|||
| obra | #perl on irc.perl.org is not a place to point people for perl help, spinclad | 17:16 | |
| #perl on irc.perl.org is a social club that is...not friendly to perl questions. | 17:17 | ||
| Zaqq: you likely want to look at Locale::Maketext and other things in the Locale:: section of CPAN | |||
| ruoso | pmurias, I would like to see them trying to have Perl 6 on their runtime or trying to have their language in smop's runtime | 17:20 | |
| Zaqq | obra: thanks .. i am browsing cpan.uwinnipeg.ca/search?query=Loca...;mode=dist .. hope to find something which parses files like JSPs | ||
| lambdabot | Title: Browse and search CPAN | ||
|
17:20
peeps joined
|
|||
| obra | wait. sorry. I thought you were talking about string extraction for, say, I18N. | 17:20 | |
| if you want something for perl that works like JSP, look at HTML::Mason | |||
| Zaqq | obra: no no .. i want something to go thru a JSP file ... and wherever it finds plain strings ... they need to be externalized ... i need it for internationalization/ globalization | 17:21 | |
| obra | ah. ok. look at extract-message-catalogs in Locale::Maketext::Lexicon. you'lll need to modify it. but it's a tool for doing osmething similar | 17:22 | |
| Zaqq | obra: thank you.. will ask if more help needed | 17:24 | |
| obra | try #perl rather than here. | ||
| Zaqq | r u there as well? | 17:25 | |
| obra | this channel really is for discussion of the development of the next version of perl | ||
| I'm not, but I need to disappear to do work anyway | |||
| rakudo_svn | r26098 | jonathan++ | [rakudo] Implement smart-matching against a role name to check if the class does the role, plus a little clean-up to the role creation code. | ||
| Zaqq | obra: ok thanks | ||
| [particle] | everytime i rebuild parrot, jonathan++ has a new commit! | ||
|
17:26
terjek_ joined
17:27
meppl joined
|
|||
| rakudo_svn | r26099 | jonathan++ | [rakudo] Add a file missed out in the previous ci. Oops. | 17:27 | |
|
17:29
silug joined
17:50
peeps left
17:51
peeps joined
17:52
Psyche^ joined
17:56
peeps left
17:59
peeps joined
18:00
Zaqq_ joined
18:02
terjek_ left,
eternaleye left,
Zaqq_ left
18:03
blindfish joined
18:04
eternaleye joined
18:09
Patterner left,
Psyche^ is now known as Patterner
|
|||
| spinclad | obra: my apologies | 18:10 | |
| obra | np | 18:11 | |
|
18:12
barney joined
18:17
Zaqq left
18:20
njbartlett joined
18:21
njbartlett left
18:34
rindolf joined
18:36
Lorn joined
18:38
ebassi left
18:43
zamolxes joined,
pcbuetow joined
18:44
eternaleye_ joined
18:47
IllvilJa left
18:51
eternaleye left
18:55
njbartlett joined
18:57
pbuetow left
19:00
bastones joined,
bastones left
19:03
njbartlett left
19:04
IllvilJa joined
19:05
tobeya joined
19:31
njbartlett joined
19:32
njbartlett left
19:44
renormalist joined
19:45
cookys left
19:49
peepsalot left,
cookys joined
20:06
ruoso left
20:09
schmalbe joined
20:25
njbartlett joined
20:26
barney left
20:38
TJCRI left
20:52
Aankhen`` left
21:07
blindfish left
21:15
TJCRI joined
21:19
devogon_ left
21:25
pmurias left
21:27
rindolf left
21:49
jhorwitz left
21:53
jhorwitz joined
21:57
schmalbe left
22:04
cathya joined
22:09
TJCRI left
22:21
justatheory_ joined
22:29
justatheory__ joined
22:31
jhorwitz left
22:34
justatheory__ left
22:35
justatheory left
22:37
wknight-away left
22:41
justatheory_ left
22:44
justatheory joined,
Limbic_Region joined
22:54
peepsalot joined
22:58
renormalist left
23:13
wknight-away joined
23:15
cmarcelo left
23:19
justatheory_ joined,
justatheory_ left
23:20
justatheory left
23:25
wknight-away is now known as wknight8111
23:33
justatheory joined
23:34
eternaleye joined
23:35
eternaleye_ left,
iblechbot left
23:45
cmarcelo joined
23:57
peepsalot left
|
|||