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| pugs_svn | r22135 | ruoso++ | [smop] updating test/30_array_map to reflect the fact that "map" receives and returns an iterator | 00:35 | |
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| pugs_svn | r22136 | ruoso++ | [smop] starting to implement "map" | 01:00 | |
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| ruoso | pugs: my @@a = map { $_, 0 - $_ }, 1..5; say @@a.perl(); | 02:03 | |
| p6eval | pugs: OUTPUT[\(1, -1, 2, -2, 3, -3, 4, -4, 5, -5)] | ||
| ruoso | pugs: my @@a = map { $_, 0 - $_ }, 1..5; say @a[0;0] | 02:04 | |
| p6eval | pugs: OUTPUT[***  Unexpected "[" expecting "::" Variable "@a" requires predeclaration or explicit package name at /tmp/MEWNYIenWL line 1, column 42] | ||
| ruoso | pugs: my @@a = map { $_, 0 - $_ }, 1..5; say @@a[0;0] | ||
| p6eval | pugs: OUTPUT[***  Unexpected ";" expecting "x", octal digit, "o", "b", fraction, exponent, term postfix, operator or "]" at /tmp/kZyL475VEt line 1, column 45] | ||
| ruoso | pugs: my @@a = map { $_, 0 - $_ }, 1..5; say @@a[00] | ||
| p6eval | pugs: OUTPUT[1] | ||
| ruoso | it looks like pugs doen't have slice context yet... :( | ||
| rakudo: my @@a = map { $_, 0 - $_ }, 1..5; say @@a[0;0] | |||
| p6eval | rakudo 30744: OUTPUT[Statement not terminated properly at line 1, near "@@a = map "current instr.: 'parrot;PGE::Util;die' pc 119 (runtime/parrot/library/PGE/Util.pir:82)] | ||
| ruoso | elf: my @@a = map { $_, 0 - $_ }, 1..5; say @@a[0;0] | 02:05 | |
| p6eval | elf 22136: OUTPUT[Use of uninitialized value $_ in subtraction (-) at (eval 121) line 3.Use of uninitialized value $_ in anonymous hash ({}) at (eval 121) line 3.Undefined subroutine &GLOBAL::map called at (eval 121) line 3. at ./elf_f line 3861] | ||
| ruoso | elf: my @@a = map { $_, $_ }, 1..5; say @@a[0;0] | ||
| p6eval | elf 22136: OUTPUT[Use of uninitialized value $_ in anonymous hash ({}) at (eval 121) line 3.Undefined subroutine &GLOBAL::map called at (eval 121) line 3. at ./elf_f line 3861] | ||
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| ruoso | sanity check: iterators should return the capture for that iteration, which may contain more than one item. it's then up to the calling code to define how to use that... | 02:18 | |
| for instance... when "map" consumes the input iterator, it stores the capture returned by the input iterator and consumes the elements in there before asking for another round... | 02:19 | ||
| but most of the time this is a non-issue, because the generic lazy list and lazy slice implementations will take care of hiding that complexity... | 02:20 | ||
| since an iterator in slice context returns a bidimensional array, while in list context flattens the slice to a single dimension... | 02:21 | ||
| the problem with that is when you want to use that in item context... | 02:23 | ||
| hmm | 02:24 | ||
| actually... | |||
| it's not a problem | |||
| we have to define the context first... | |||
| map receives an iterator *in item context*... which means that in low-level "map { ... } (1,2,3)" makes something like "map((1,2,3).Iterator.Item, {...})"" | 02:26 | ||
| and that iterator in item context knows that it should flatten the return for each iteration to a single value (including re-trying when that step returned an empty capture... which is something "grep" will do a lot) | 02:27 | ||
| pugs_svn | r22137 | ruoso++ | [smop] "map" receives "Iterator in item context" (updating test code)... | 02:30 | |
| ruoso sleep & (it's always good to know that the reality fits in the model you're working on) | 02:41 | ||
| ruoso . o O ( for some concepts of reality ) | |||
| ruoso z Z z | |||
| s1n | anyone around with knowledge of List.pir? | 02:45 | |
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| s1n | anyone remotely familiar with List.pir? | 03:24 | |
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| s1n | is it better to skip a test or mark it as todo<bug>? | 03:37 | |
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| literal | roughly, you skip a test on a platform where it is irrelevant, you mark it todo when it is to test functionality that has not been implemented fully | 03:42 | |
| PerlJam | s1n: What about List.pir? | 03:46 | |
| s1n | PerlJam: have you messed with flatten? | ||
| PerlJam | briefly | 03:47 | |
| s1n | does that flatten array references? | ||
| PerlJam | it flattens Lists :) | 03:48 | |
| s1n | i've been playing with it and i dont think it does, but there are comments that the impending lazylist effort will radically change it | ||
| does it flatten Lists of references to Lists though? | |||
| PerlJam | it doesn't recurse or anything. It's just one level deep flattening. | 03:49 | |
| s1n | okay, that answers my question | 03:50 | |
| PerlJam | there are some hacks for flattening a Range or Array. These hacks will be what are radically altered once we get true lazy lists (I'd imagine) | 03:51 | |
| s1n | yeah i'll probably just write a ticket and leave it at that | ||
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| s1n | PerlJam: does slicing depend on the lazylist effort? | 03:55 | |
| PerlJam | dunno | ||
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| pugs_svn | r22138 | s1n++ | [spec] fudged array_mmd.t and array_ref.t for rakudo | 04:01 | |
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| pugs_svn | r22139 | moritz++ | [t/spec] minor fudging nits | 06:36 | |
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| rakudo_svn | r30747 | moritz++ | [rakudo] one more test for spectest_regression, s1n++ | 06:41 | |
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| moritz_ | 343 files in spec/, 428 test files outside of spec/ | 08:00 | |
| makes me think it's a never ending task | 08:01 | ||
| moritz_ is slightly frustrated | |||
| pugs_svn | r22140 | moritz++ | [t] moved loopscope.t to spec/, simplfied a bit | 08:04 | |
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| pugs_svn | r22142 | moritz++ | [t] moved tests around, merged single test into another file | 09:18 | |
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| pugs_svn | r22144 | moritz++ | [t] moved operators/hyper.t to spec/ | 13:16 | |
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| pugs_svn | r22145 | moritz++ | [t] moved config.t to spec/, deleted redundant tests | 13:22 | |
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| r22147 | moritz++ | [t] move blocks/splat_rw.t to spec/ | 13:30 | ||
| r22148 | moritz++ | [t] merged blocks/splatty_with_type.t into spec/ | 13:34 | ||
| r22149 | moritz++ | [t] merged blocks/slurpy_param.t into spec/ | 13:42 | ||
| moritz_ | uhm, I merge some tests into spec/S06-signature/slurpy-params.t, and now it dies while running the first ones | 13:50 | |
| how do I revert a commit? | |||
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| pugs_svn | r22150 | moritz++ | [t/spec] partially reverted r22149 because it borked rakudo's | 13:59 | |
| r22150 | moritz++ | spectest_regression | |||
| pmichaud | any suggestions how to fix t/spec/S04-declarations/my.t:37 ? | 14:00 | |
| moritz_ | what's wrong with it? | 14:01 | |
| pmichaud | sub foo is declared later in the test | ||
| moritz_ | uhm | ||
| pmichaud | so it's not dying properly because sub 'foo' exists. | ||
| moritz_ | I'll rename the second sub foo | 14:02 | |
| pmichaud | (yes, we can argue that there's a signature mismatch there and so it should die anyway, but ...) | ||
| pugs_svn | r22151 | moritz++ | [t/spec] fixed name clash, pmichaud++ | 14:03 | |
| rakudo_svn | r30750 | pmichaud++ | [rakudo]: Eliminate :immediate subs from generated output. | 14:04 | |
| r30750 | pmichaud++ | * Now use .loadinit() attribute of PAST::Block. | |||
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| pugs_svn | r22152 | moritz++ | [t] move sub_return_values.t to spec, corrected isa_ok calls to use type names | 14:25 | |
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| rakudo_svn | r30751 | moritz++ | [rakudo] two more tests for spectest_regression | 14:36 | |
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| rakudo_svn | r30753 | pmichaud++ | [rakudo]: spectest-progress.csv update: 153 files, 2707 passing tests | 15:24 | |
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| pugs_svn | r22154 | moritz++ | [t/TASKS] smore more overall TASKS | 15:48 | |
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| ruoso | Howdy! | 16:25 | |
| moritz_ | !ydwoH | 16:27 | |
| ruoso still digesting the amount of concepts around the implementation of "map"! | 16:28 | ||
| ruoso . o O ( I just hope all the conceptual torture saves us a lot of code in the future ) | 16:29 | ||
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| pmurias | ruoso: hi | 17:33 | |
| ruoso | hi pmichaud | 17:34 | |
| hi pmurias | |||
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| ruoso | pmurias, did you follow my last thoughts on map? | 17:46 | |
| pmurias | ruoso: yes | 17:55 | |
| seems ok | 17:57 | ||
| i'm pretty muddled now, so i might me wrong ;) | 18:01 | ||
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| pim | Hi, everybody. | 18:02 | |
| moritz_ | hi pim | 18:03 | |
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| pugs_svn | r22155 | moritz++ | [t/spec] allow rakudo to run most of pge's regex tests | 18:17 | |
| r22156 | moritz++ | [t/spec] test files should end with .t, stupid me. | 18:18 | ||
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| rakudo_svn | r30761 | moritz++ | [rakudo] add pge-tests.t to spectest_regression | 18:34 | |
| r30761 | moritz++ | The immense number of skips is mostly explained by the fact that if we | |||
| r30761 | moritz++ | wouldn't skip > 240 tests, the test segfaults. | |||
| r30761 | moritz++ | +307 skip, 105 todo, 333 pass | |||
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| rakudo_svn | r30764 | pmichaud++ | [rakudo]: code generated by --target=pir now runs from parrot (RT #53040) | 18:54 | |
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| moritz_ | pmichaud++ # r30764 | 19:07 | |
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| rakudo_svn | r30769 | jonathan++ | [rakudo] Free allocated memory in Perl6MultiSub, so we don't leak. | 21:27 | |
| r30770 | jonathan++ | [rakudo] Fix trailing whitespace. | 21:28 | ||
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| rjbs | Hi, totally random drop-in question from someone who doesn't follow p6 | 21:36 | |
| does this dwiw: | |||
| moritz_ | go right ahead | ||
| rjbs | with ($obj) { .some_method_obj_provides } | 21:37 | |
| moritz_ | yes | ||
| rjbs | fantastic, thank you | ||
| rjbs is trying to write up an explanation about why sigils are so nice, mostly for his .pm group | |||
| as long as I'm asking: is $self implicit in its own method bodies? | 21:38 | ||
| method foo { .some_other_method } | |||
| s/implicit/default invocant/ | |||
| moritz_ | no, it's not | ||
| rjbs | Ok. Is that planned but not implemented, or not planned but likely to change? | ||
| moritz_ | you'd have to write method my_method ($_:, $stuff) { ... } | ||
| it's not planned | |||
| rjbs | thanks | ||
| moritz_ | but there's the 'self' keyword/builtiin/whatever | 21:39 | |
| rjbs | sure | ||
| moritz_ | and you can call $.method for example (which is an evil hack, but should work) | 21:40 | |
| if it returns a scalar | |||
| or @.method if it returns a list | |||
| TimToady | s/with/given/ | 21:44 | |
| and the parens aren't necessary, so: given $obj { .some_method_obj_provides } | 21:45 | ||
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| raiph | hi | 22:36 | |
| moritz_ | hi | ||
| raiph | i've read your recent perl5-6 posts. great stuff. | 22:37 | |
| moritz_ | thanks | ||
| literal | me too, keep up the good work | ||
| raiph | moritz: are you involved with november? | 22:38 | |
| moritz_ | I'm slowly running out of tuits/topics/motivation for the blog... | ||
| raiph: yes, a bit | |||
| I wrote a grammar for HTML::Template, and a few tests | |||
| raiph | moritz: aha. | ||
| moritz_ | and I discuss bugs that masak finds in rakudo ;) | 22:39 | |
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| rjbs | TimToady: thanks | 22:44 | |
| s1n | moritz_: S02-builtin_data_types/array-mmd.t is fudged for rakudo as well, but doesn't have any tests that pass unfudged, just fyi | 22:51 | |
| moritz_ | s1n: yes, I noticed | ||
| s1n: I added the other (array-ref.t iirc) to spectest_regression | 22:52 | ||
| I should teach autounfudge.pl to also look at files outside of spectest_regression | |||
| so that they'll get unfudged when the tests start passing, but don't waste CPU cycles as long as no test is run | 22:53 | ||
| anyway, good work, s1n++ | 22:54 | ||
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| s1n | moritz_: there's a big problem with me running autounfudge, there's a bug in parrot that i'm working on that prevents me from doing any IO | 22:57 | |
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| moritz_ | but IO isn't used very much in the tests, is it? | 22:58 | |
| s1n | the ones in spectest_regression will crash my system | 22:59 | |
| moritz_ | that's bad | ||
| what OS do you use? | |||
| parrot shouldn't even be able to crash your system | |||
| doesn't matter how buggy it is | |||
| s1n | gentoo, 64bit | 23:01 | |
| i reported rt#57776 along the same lines | 23:02 | ||
| i think they're related, but haven't been able to get a segfault, just flat out consumes everything | |||
| raiph | juerd: ping | ||
| s1n | looks like addresses bonked, they're doing IO in a kinda wonky way, relying on addresses to be in a certain order | 23:03 | |
| they obviously aren't on my system | |||
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| s1n | that bug is on my todo list, just hadn't gotten to it, i'm working with chromatic on ironing out a few 64bit bugs, i'll eventually get to this | 23:05 | |
| Juerd | raiph: Sorry, not available any time soon; email me please | ||
| afk | |||
| s1n | anyways, gotta go to class | ||
| moritz_ got to go to bed | 23:06 | ||
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| raiph | juerd: yay! I sent several emails a week or two back, incl. at least one to [email@hidden.address] from raiph.mellor atsign g mail dot com. I can repeat or use a diff email addy if you like. | 23:09 | |
| Juerd | Ah, I see them | ||
| raiph | :) | 23:10 | |
| Juerd | I have not yet come around to the administation involved, sorry | ||
| afk && good night | |||
| raiph | understand. no probs. you've always done a fab job in the years I've been lurking. no hurry. | 23:11 | |
| StephenPollei | maybe the tests should run with some setrlimit used to control resource overconsumption negatively affecting others and puting some sanity into test performance | 23:14 | |
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| rjbs | Do I need parens around the cond in if? | 23:26 | |
| if $bool { ... } | |||
| Myoma | no | ||
| pugs_svn | r22157 | moritz++ | [t/spec] some unfudging | ||
| rjbs | Thnks. | 23:28 | |
| literal | rjbs: If you haven't seen it, here are some short introductions to various Perl 6 features -> perlgeek.de/blog-en/perl-5-to-6/ | 23:30 | |
| lambdabot | Title: blog | Perlgeek.de Blog :: Category Perl-5-to-6 | ||
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| rjbs | literal: thanks; I just had a few direct questions for now apropos a journal entry i'm writing | 23:44 | |
| ruoso | moritz_, did you change the CSS of the 5-to-6 blog? or is it my browser that is rendering weird fonts? | 23:46 | |
| literal | looks fine here | ||
| then again, I have firefox set to use my fonts regardless of CSS :) | |||
| ruoso | yeah... it looks better that way | 23:49 | |
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