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Set by moritz on 22 December 2015.
viki m: class { method dd { dd "sure" } }.dd 00:00
camelia rakudo-moar 627a77: OUTPUT«"sure"␤»
viki m: use MONKEY-TYPING; augment class Mu { method dd { dd "sure" } }; (5…7).dd.say
camelia rakudo-moar 627a77: OUTPUT«No such method 'dd' for invocant of type 'Seq'␤ in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1␤␤»
timotimo thank you, viki 00:01
viki m: use MONKEY-TYPING; augment class Mu { method dd { dd "sure" } }; Seq.^compose; (5…7).dd.say
camelia rakudo-moar 627a77: OUTPUT«"sure"␤Nil␤»
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viki m: use MONKEY-TYPING; augment class Any { method dd { dd "sure" } }; class {}.dd 00:03
camelia rakudo-moar 627a77: OUTPUT«"sure"␤»
viki \o/
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viki m: class {}.DUMP 00:04
camelia ( no output )
viki m: class {}.DUMP.say
camelia rakudo-moar 627a77: OUTPUT«<anon|76550992>␤»
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viki m: <a b c>.&dd 00:41
camelia rakudo-moar 627a77: OUTPUT«("a", "b", "c")␤»
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dalek c: 7685316 | gfldex++ | doc/Language/typesystem.pod6:
the whole expression must be state, not just the anonymous variable
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dalek c: 144a3a9 | gfldex++ | doc/Language/variables.pod6:
show difference between implicit and explicit state delcarator
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RabidGravy boom! 08:01
stmuk_ did any test the R* 2016.10.1 Mac rebuild on 10.12? 08:06
s/any/anyone
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RabidGravy one day I'll get all the travis things green at the same time on the modules list 08:30
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moritz \o 09:07
yoleaux 28 Oct 2016 21:32Z <MasterDuke> moritz: i'm good, it worked with Chrome
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RabidGravy zostay, I've just sent a PR for ArrayHash to fix the t/meta.t and the travis thingy 09:31
gotta have all those travis build things on the modules list green at least once ;-) 09:37
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dalek href="https://perl6.org:">perl6.org: 7d8aff4 | (Steve Mynott)++ | source/downloads/index.html:
refer to Mac DMG 2016.10.1
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RabidGravy I really want to get Net::ZMQ working again, but I lost the will to live last time I looked at it 10:35
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moritz can anybody describe the usage of the .msi and .dmg installers for Rakudo Star? 13:01
I need to include something in the book, but I have no windows or mac test systems :(
do I need to set some PATH manually, or something?
FROGGS_ the msi requires you to set PATH 13:02
moritz does it tell you which directories to include in PATH? 13:03
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FROGGS_ I'll give you the input today... 13:03
moritz and is it one or two?
ok, thanks
FROGGS_ I think it does, but let me check
it is one path on windows
C:\rakudo\bin
moritz and panda installs script into that dir too? 13:04
FROGGS_ it did the last time I checked 13:05
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lucasb m: say :: 13:08
camelia rakudo-moar 91a714: OUTPUT«PseudoStash.new(("!UNIT_MARKER" => !UNIT_MARKER,"\$!" => Nil,"\$/" => Nil,"\$=finish" => Mu,"\$=pod" => [],"\$?PACKAGE" => GLOBAL,"\$_" => Any,"\$¢" => Nil,"::?PACKAGE" => GLOBAL,:EXPORT(EXPORT),:GLOBALish(GLOBAL)))␤»
lucasb m: my $x = :: ; say $x
camelia rakudo-moar 91a714: OUTPUT«(timeout)» 13:09
FROGGS_ moritz: I was wrong, you need both: C:\rakudo\bin;C:\rakudo\share\perl6\site\bin 13:11
moritz FROGGS_: ok, thanks 13:13
FROGGS_ moritz: wait, you'll get pictures
MasterDuke lucasb: wow, i killed that on my machine after it got to over 700MB ram used 13:16
should probably RT it 13:17
FROGGS_ moritz: check your emails 13:23
moritz FROGGS_: thank you very much 13:26
FROGGS_ moritz: cant do images of the .dmg sadly 13:27
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moritz FROGGS_: knowing the friendly Perl 6 community, I'm sure others will step up 13:28
FROGGS_ aye :o)
moritz (don't need images necessarily, just informations on whether there is anything extra to do than hitting return all the time)
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FROGGS_ I like images in books ;o) 13:34
moritz that's something that works well in ebooks, but not in print 13:37
ah well, it's ebook first anyway
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moritz FROGGS_: maybe you also want to join #perl6book 13:39
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AlexDaniel wow, :: is a good one! 13:47
cmomittabel6: 2015.12 ::
committable6 AlexDaniel, ¦«2015.12»: WARNINGS for /tmp/1P3RHEbvE9:␤Useless use of "::" in sink context (line 1)
AlexDaniel cmomittabel6: 6c 2015.12 :: 13:48
committable6 AlexDaniel, ¦«2015.12,2016.02,2016.03,2016.04,2016.05,2016.06,2016.07.1,2016.08.1,2016.09,2016.10,HEAD»: ===SORRY!=== Error while compiling /tmp/dwt4A7ceA7␤Confused␤at /tmp/dwt4A7ceA7:1␤------> 2015.12 :<HERE>:␤ expecting any of:␤ colon pair «exit code = 1»
AlexDaniel ah, you need to say it?
cmomittabel6: 6c ::
committable6 AlexDaniel, ¦«2015.12,2016.02,2016.03,2016.04,2016.05,2016.06,2016.07.1,2016.08.1,2016.09,2016.10,HEAD»: WARNINGS for /tmp/6fUuhjzQAZ:␤Useless use of "::" in sink context (line 1)
AlexDaniel cmomittabel6: 6c say ::
committable6 AlexDaniel, gist.github.com/67d99f526faaf4a7f5...4faa9740c8
AlexDaniel /o\ ah, I was looking at the wrong like 13:49
line*
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AlexDaniel cmomittabel6: 6c my $x = :: ; say $x 13:49
committable6 AlexDaniel, ¦«2015.12,2016.02,2016.04,2016.05,2016.06,2016.07.1,2016.08.1,2016.09,2016.10,HEAD»: «timed out after 10 seconds, output»: «exit signal = SIGHUP (1)»␤¦«2016.03»: «exit signal = SIGSEGV (11)» 13:51
AlexDaniel what's so special about 2016.03
cmomittabel6: 2016.03 my $x = :: ; say $x
committable6 AlexDaniel, ¦«2016.03»: «exit signal = SIGSEGV (11)»
AlexDaniel actually, it is quite interesting 13:57
committable6: 6ef16cac1db4^,6ef16cac1db4 my $x = :: ; say $x 13:58
committable6: f3fe81962131^,f3fe81962131 my $x = :: ; say $x
committable6 AlexDaniel, ¦«6ef16cac1db4^»: «timed out after 10 seconds, output»: «exit signal = SIGHUP (1)»␤¦«6ef16ca»: «exit signal = SIGSEGV (11)»
AlexDaniel, ¦«f3fe81962131^»: «exit signal = SIGSEGV (11)»␤¦«f3fe819»: «timed out after 10 seconds, output»: «exit signal = SIGHUP (1)»
AlexDaniel feels like a segfault was introduced and then fixed, and nobody noticed :) 13:59
but these commits are so different… perhaps there's still a segfault hiding somewhere
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lizmat argh, found a bug that disappears with spesh disabled 14:31
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AlexDaniel lizmat: great :) 14:34
lizmat yeah :-(
but it also depended on a bug of mine 14:35
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AlexDaniel so what's up with the button in RT… is it coming back ever? 15:01
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AlexDaniel ‘’ “” but no triple quotation mark? 17:43
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FROGGS_ AlexDaniel: what is "the button" ? 18:09
AlexDaniel FROGGS_: The button! How come you don't know? :) There was a button to create new tickets, it is now gone 18:11
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FROGGS_ huh, yeah, I can only search now 18:12
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moritz can close tickets too :-) 18:39
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RabidGravy well it's a simple way of reducing the number of tickets 18:46
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AlexDaniel RabidGravy: yea, exactly what I am thinking… 18:54
viki Contact RT admins and ask how you could help out. 18:55
Or write a program that uses the API to create tickets/create them by email
[ptc] viki: IRC::Client::Plugin::HNY is your module, right? 18:58
AlexDaniel nah, I'm fine. I'll just wait until RT loses a couple of other critically essential features… 19:01
maybe then we will be able to get the thing going. The thing we were so reluctant to start for a while now… 19:02
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[ptc] FROGGS_: could you try running the tests on Inline::C, please? (If you have time, of course!) I can't seem to get them to go; the inline code doesn't seem to get compiled for some reason 19:22
FROGGS_ :S
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[ptc] it's probably some configuration issue on my side, but since I saw you there, I thought I'd let you know :-) 19:34
FROGGS no, it is something deeper 19:35
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FROGGS ahh, stupid me :o) 19:37
[ptc]: fix pushed 19:38
viki [ptc]: yeah, why? 19:39
AlexDaniel: what thing? 19:40
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AlexDaniel nevermind 19:48
viki heh
[ptc] FROGGS: awesome! thanks!
viki AlexDaniel: considering there are no volunteers to fix the current thing; I doubt you'll have much luck getting another thing going ;) 19:49
[ptc] viki: I was trying to test it and found that the deps couldn't be found in the ecosystem. Namely, Number::Denominate and WWW::Google::Time didn't seem to be in the module list 19:50
seatek is it just RT, or is it a freakishly customized RT?
[ptc] viki: also the version of IRC::Client has moved on, so panda was telling me that it couldn't find IRC::Client either, however removing the version requirement allowed it to get further
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viki [ptc]: the version numbers need to be removed from prereqs. They are much higher now and installer can't find old ones: github.com/zoffixznet/perl6-IRC-Cl...son#L7-L10 19:51
[ptc] viki: whether or not removing the version req was the right thing to do is another matter...
viki [ptc]: moreover, IRC::Client's API changed entirely, the module would need an update for that.
[ptc] ah, ok
viki is surprised to see now two people interested in HNY module :/ 19:52
AlexDaniel viki: well, one of the solutions to the thing problem requires just one click on GitHub. Not saying that GitHub is the solution, but just saying that it doesn't require many volunteers to have a thing that is arguably better than RT.
viki Bah.
[ptc] viki: to be honest, I just wanted to add a travis config to the module.
it's amazing the number of modules in the ecosystem that don't build anymore... 19:53
viki AlexDaniel: you can't realistically think this problem can be solved with "one click"
ugexe its also amazing how many self proclaimed perl 5 ports of modules there are that are 10% of the original and have less than 10 commits over 2 years
ugexe writes readme and blank Module.pm, pushes to ecosystem immediately 19:54
mst AlexDaniel: what's the ticket number for 'the button thing' ? 19:55
viki [ptc]: there's little point and not just 'cause the module is broken :) It'd need some testing facility, since it can't just use a random IRC server to run tests against.
mst++
AlexDaniel mst: great question. Is that something that should be opened in perl6 queue?
mst AlexDaniel: the front page of rt.perl.org says to email [email@hidden.address] 19:56
I think that might be a clue.
viki [ptc]: I think a Test::IRC::Client module that emulates a connected IRC::Client would be usable. But I plan to resurect that module come New Years so, don't worry about travis :)
AlexDaniel oh, and then it will open a ticket that is unaccessible to others?
[ptc] viki: that's also good to know. Nothing one could mock to use?
viki: ok, will do :-)
AlexDaniel if so, I don't know if there's a ticket already or not
if not, tell me and I'll write an email
but honestly, I expected this ticket to be created the same day this issue appeared (when this button was deliberately removed) 19:57
mst if you've not even spoken to the admins, how do you know it was 'deliberately removed' 19:58
AlexDaniel somebody told me here
[ptc] FROGGS: all tests pass, yay!
FROGGS \o/
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mst can you find the conversation for me? I've gone back as far as May searching for 'removed' and can't find a conversation 19:59
AlexDaniel sure 20:00
ugexe i remember someone, now who, saying it was removed because of spam
s/now/not/
mst ok, but in that case presumably it's disabled for anonymous users etc. 20:02
doesn't necessarily mean we can't have known users still have access
AlexDaniel mst: irclog.perlgeek.de/perl6/2016-09-29#i_13306616
so is there a ticket already or should I start a new one? 20:03
mst I would strongly suspect that since the vast majority of perl5 RTs go via email, the other people using the button just switched to that for the moment, so I think "filing a ticket asking if some users can be whitelisted" is a good idea 20:05
and as usual, you can always blame me if it turns out not to be
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dalek osystem: a372156 | (Pawel Pabian)++ | META.list:
META.info to META6.json rename to be compatible with S22 spec.
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seatek because i've complained about unintuitive precedence before, i just have to say i love that this works as expected: for $img.factory: [$img.id] -> $obj {} 20:39
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seatek it's wonderful what you can fit into just that one little convention 20:40
FROGGS aye 20:41
there are beautiful constructs in here that'd you gonna miss in other languages... 20:42
seatek what other languages? (haven't found a reason to stop converting stuff yet) 20:45
:)
though the slow starts are problemmatic in a few places
FROGGS well, there is JavaScript that you usually cant avoid... and there is C, PHP, Java, C++, C# and other stuff that you might see at $work 20:47
(when you have to fix stuff others have written for example) 20:48
seatek yeah i haven't started converting any PHP stuff yet -- nothing web based yet. i fear what i've heard of memory leaks, so i'm leaving it for last, in the hopes my procrastination will outlast other people's procrastination on fixing the leaks ;) 20:49
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seatek haven't had to work in C in a long time. kinda miss it, strangely 20:50
FROGGS well, MoarVM is written in C :o)
and yes, I love C too
seatek i think that is probably well over my head 20:52
is it mostly limited to the context within which rakudo interfaces with an OS? 20:53
or i suppose antyhing since rakudo isn't required 20:54
that's weird froggs
isn't the idea to go to JVM eventually? 20:55
FROGGS seatek: it does the OS abstraction, and other low level bits (memory management to name one) 20:56
mst seatek: the idea is to have both moarvm and the JVM as rakudo backends eventually
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mst well, I mean, they exist now, but moarvm works because more manpower invested 20:57
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seatek so when you say manpower invested -- you mean manpower on rakudo to get it to work with moarvm better than jvm for now yes? 20:57
FROGGS seatek: many things arnt that hard: github.com/MoarVM/MoarVM/blob/mast...ops.c#L106 20:58
seatek: moarvm was created by the makers of rakudo
seatek or are people just finding it easier to develop moarvm in conjunction with rakudo -- instead of having to deal with the peculiarities of already-defined jvm?
mst seatek: I believe that more time has been invested into moarvm because the JVM annoys the crap out of people, so sort of both 20:59
but I'm inferring quite hard there
seatek ok that i get ;) 21:00
mst based on stuff I've seen go past
FROGGS mst is quite right here
you can hack stuff in moar, compile+install+test within a bunch of seconds 21:01
seatek yeah that seems handy
FROGGS the development turnaround on jvm (which means altering nqp + reinstalling rakudo) takes minutes 21:02
so, moarvm is much more fun to work on
mst could the JVM time be cut down somehow?
FROGGS and it was designed *after* rakudo existed, so it is well designed for what rakudo/perl6 needs
moritz mst: the JVM has an intrinsic startup time that's mostly unavoidable 21:03
FROGGS mst: depends... there are cases where you only touch java class files which are not quite part of nqp... then it also just takes seconds
moritz mst: for the spectests, we had an evalserver, which keeps the JVM running in the background, and does IPC to get programs to it
but that suffers from problems when a program loops forever, and Ctrl+C in the frontend thingy doesn't kill it, and stuff like that 21:04
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moritz also, namespace pollution is very hard to avoid 21:04
mst I thought you could hot reload classes in the JVM if you poked it right
seatek so rakudo "translates" what it believes is a perl6 want to copy a file it a MVM file copy -- so rakudo must know which backend it's talking to. 21:05
is there an API that moarvm must follow -- or is it rakudo that must follow moarvm's ?
must be rakudo since jvm's is already defined
FROGGS the nqp ops define that api
seatek are those api's the same for moarvm and jvm? 21:06
FROGGS seatek: github.com/perl6/nqp/blob/master/d...s.markdown
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FROGGS seatek: the nqp ops are like 99% identical between the backends 21:06
AlexDaniel … and by that time you can probably start explaining what is nqp :) 21:07
seatek having these many layers of abstraction seems like it would make finding memory leaks VERY difficult
yeah nqp.... i've been kinda ignoring that... ;) 21:08
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AlexDaniel m: say 42 21:09
camelia rakudo-moar db61aa: OUTPUT«42␤»
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seatek ok, why does nqp exist? ;) 21:11
i'm guessing optimization 21:12
is that what rakudo is written in?
BenGoldberg nqp is indeed what rakudo is written in. 21:14
It exists because it's easier to write a program which compiles/interprets nqp than one which runs perl6 directly. 21:15
mst seatek: nqp is 'not quite perl'
moritz nqp is bootstrapped. Booting a full Perl 6 compiler is much harder
seatek yeah i'm looking through it and it seems very terse \
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moritz but you need to have something at least semi-bootstrapped, because how much compile time and run time are inetrmingled 21:15
seatek gotcha
so all perl6 code gets interpreted by nqp, which in turn calls moarvm or jvm through a nqp-defined api that is bascially the same 21:17
you just need to decide what bits of moarvm need to get called to fulfill the perl6 user's desires 21:18
and that's up to nqp
does nqp handle most of the call stacks, or is that at moarvm? 21:19
god it's probably both
with the weirdness perl6 can do 21:20
how is anyone sane/
?
FROGGS rakudo grammar and actions (the parser) are written in NQP
AlexDaniel seatek: it's easy, we are not sane
FROGGS the rakudo built-ins, the setting" is written in Perl 6
seatek hehe
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seatek interesting 21:21
so perl6 is *somewhat* "bootstrapped" in then
AlexDaniel well, nqp is 21:22
and not perl6 but rakudo
seatek k 21:23
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AlexDaniel seatek: github.com/rakudo/rakudo/blob/nom/....nqp#L1085 21:24
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seatek i like looking at MoarVM better ;) 21:25
FROGGS seatek: that explains something about backends, nqp, and rakudo: www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgPh5Li3k4g 21:26
mst seatek: PERLCEPTION 21:27
AlexDaniel seatek: why? Grammar.nqp looks very Perl 6-ish
seatek AlexDaniel: yeah i just noticed that..
AlexDaniel seatek: in fact, I pointed directly to the place where the fun begins :) 21:28
seatek i had only just started getting into to the grammars
i could just whatever i wanted and be done with you guy's excuses! ;) 21:29
i need to find the link between rakudo and moarvm -- is ther ea place where that API is defined? 21:31
FROGGS seatek: github.com/perl6/nqp/blob/master/s....nqp#L2108 21:32
dalek osystem: 50515a9 | (Pawel Pabian)++ | META.list:
Rename META.info to META6.json to be more compatible with S22 spec.
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FROGGS seatek: that's moar... every backend has its own mapping
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FROGGS seatek: nqp registers ops, like nqp::rename which can be called like a subroutine 21:37
these ops are used in the setting, and this way you call into moarvm 21:38
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AlexDaniel m: say 42 21:39
camelia rakudo-moar db61aa: OUTPUT«42␤»
timotimo right, you can have ops defined by just mapping to an instruction on MoarVM, or by manually compiling the op into other low-level things by yourself
both kinds of example are in the OperationsMAST
on the JVM side you'll see ops from nqp::foobar space be mapped directly to method calls on a static object 21:41
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seatek i see why it's so nice to be able to develop moarvm in tandem rather than jvm now. these seem to be most 1-to-1 mappings. 21:44
FROGGS would be weird if that wouldnt be the case
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AlexDaniel
.oO( “here, we developed a virtual machine that is completely incompatible with rakudo, let's use it!” )
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seatek yeah -- so when you make a new mapping for moarvm -- do you try to make a similar one in the jvm?
mst AlexDaniel: that was called parrot 21:46
AlexDaniel mst: :D
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mst AlexDaniel: also, if you didn't mail in yet, feel free to cc me on the report 21:47
AlexDaniel mst: I did
mst ok
just realise I should've said that earlier
FROGGS seatek: yes, the op that is exposed to rakudo will be named identically 21:48
seatek: though adding ops does not happen often these days 21:49
there might be new ones when udp support will be implemented...
mst I just want unix domain sockets :( 21:50
seatek we don't have that?
is one of the directions of development to implement features of jvm in moarvm? i should probably watch that video before i talk more 21:52
actually i should probably get work done instead of getting distracted ;)
damn
how important is it to keep moarvm and jvm capabilities in sync? 21:54
is that a thing?
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AlexDaniel seatek: well, ideally it is super important 22:07
seatek: in reality rakudo-jvm needs more love 22:08
FROGGS nods 22:12
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Authorize when connecting to freenode

When connecting to freenode you can use your nickserv login:pass pair as a server password (delimited by :), and it will authorize you automatically.		 23:00
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If we ignore private messages, we should ignore notices as well. Hoping to resolve this issue soon though.
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Exclude privileges from nicknames

Another fix to the camelia detector hack.
pat_js how would this perl5 look like in perl6? (I'm especially interested in the assignment part. 23:09
# p5: ($dirs, $name) = $file =~ m{^(.*)/([^/]+)$} 23:10
I want $dirs and $name to be strings…
this is how far I got: my ($dirs, $name) = (map({~$_}) <== (m{^(.*) \/ (<-[/]>+) $})[0,1]) given $file;
but this looks like a monster… 23:11
and it throws warnings, if there match…
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pat_js s/match/is no match/ 23:11
seatek pat_js: i don't know if you're wanting to use matching like that, but for that task i'd just use the IO stuff 23:19
m: my $path = '/var/tmp/myfile'; say $path.IO.basename, ' ', $path.IO.dirname;
camelia rakudo-moar db61aa: OUTPUT«myfile /var/tmp␤»
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pat_js seatek: yes I do, that's why I'm asking. 23:21
but in this case, I might as well use the IO stuff. 23:22
why wouldn't I want to use matching like this?
seatek: thank you 23:23
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seatek well personally i avoid regex stuff whenever i can ;) 23:24
AlexDaniel m: my $file = ‘test/foo/bar/filename’; my ($dirs, $name) = ($file ~~ m/^(.*)‘/’(<-[/]>+)$/)[0, 1]; say $dirs; say $name 23:26
camelia rakudo-moar db61aa: OUTPUT«｢test/foo/bar｣␤｢filename｣␤»
AlexDaniel pat_js: it is actually not that different
pat_js: actually if you want to make it a bit better…
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AlexDaniel m: my $file = ‘test/foo/bar/filename’; $file ~~ m/^$<dirs>=.* ‘/’ $<name>=<-[/]>+ $/; say $<dirs>; say $<name> 23:27
camelia rakudo-moar db61aa: OUTPUT«｢test/foo/bar｣␤｢filename｣␤»
AlexDaniel ah, damn, these are match objects
m: my $file = ‘test/foo/bar/filename’; $file ~~ m/^$<dirs>=.* ‘/’ $<name>=<-[/]>+ $/; say ~$<dirs>; say ~$<name> 23:28
camelia rakudo-moar db61aa: OUTPUT«test/foo/bar␤filename␤»
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pat_js AlexDaniel: yup, that's why I had that map in there 23:28
AlexDaniel m: my $file = ‘test/foo/bar/filename’; my ($dirs, $name) = ~«($file ~~ m/^(.*)‘/’(<-[/]>+)$/)[0, 1]; say $dirs; say $name 23:29
camelia rakudo-moar db61aa: OUTPUT«test/foo/bar␤filename␤»
pat_js But then I got “Nil” warnings
AlexDaniel m: my $file = ‘test/foo/bar/filename’; my ($dirs, $name) = ($file ~~ m/^(.*)‘/’(<-[/]>+)$/)[0, 1]».Str; say $dirs; say $name
camelia rakudo-moar db61aa: OUTPUT«test/foo/bar␤filename␤»
AlexDaniel pat_js: but if I were you I wouldn't parse paths like this… 23:30
pat_js my $file = 'no slash'; ($dirs, $name) = ($file ~~
m/^(.*)‘/’(<-[/]>+)$/)[0, 1]».Str; say $dirs;
say $name
AlexDaniel yeah, fair enough!
pat_js m: my $file = 'no slash'; ($dirs, $name) = ($file ~~ m/^(.*)‘/’(<-[/]>+)$/)[0,1]».Str; say $dirs;say $name 23:31
camelia rakudo-moar db61aa: OUTPUT«5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>␤Variable '$dirs' is not declared. Did you mean '&dir'?␤at <tmp>:1␤------> 3my $file = 'no slash'; (7⏏5$dirs, $name) = ($file ~~ m/^(.*)‘/’(<-[␤»
pat_js m: my $file = 'no slash';my ($dirs, $name) = ($file ~~ m/^(.*)‘/’(<-[/]>+)$/)[0,1]».Str; say $dirs;say $name
camelia rakudo-moar db61aa: OUTPUT«Index out of range. Is: 1, should be in 0..0␤ in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1␤␤Actually thrown at:␤ in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1␤␤»
AlexDaniel m: my $file = ‘no space’; if $file ~~ m/^$<dirs>=.* ‘/’ $<name>=<-[/]>+ $/ { say $<dirs>; say $<name> } else { say ‘nah, cannot parse that’ } 23:32
camelia rakudo-moar db61aa: OUTPUT«nah, cannot parse that␤»
AlexDaniel m: my $file = ‘yes/space’; if $file ~~ m/^$<dirs>=.* ‘/’ $<name>=<-[/]>+ $/ { say $<dirs>; say $<name> } else { say ‘nah, cannot parse that’ }
camelia rakudo-moar db61aa: OUTPUT«｢yes｣␤｢space｣␤»
AlexDaniel pat_js: it all depends on how short you want it
and on your reasoning why you cannot use basename…
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ugexe m: say $*CWD.parts; # this handles volume as well, unlike a basic regex 23:33
camelia rakudo-moar db61aa: OUTPUT«{basename => camelia, directory => /home, dirname => /home, volume => }␤»
pat_js AlexDaniel: of course I can use basename, and will probably, but this was an Ideom I used often in perl5 and would miss, that's why I asked. 23:36
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AlexDaniel well I'm still not sure what this ideom does 23:39
timotimo could we make the search on doc.perl6.org somehow "fuzzy"? 23:41
AlexDaniel timotimo: likely 23:42
timotimo like that it'll find "starts-with" when you search "startswith" or "starts_with"?
AlexDaniel timotimo: perhaps a ticket will be a good start
the search itself needs more love too. Who knows, maybe that will spark up some interest 23:43
timotimo cool
i'll ticket
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