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Geth modules.perl6.org/cpan-support: dd123505c8 | (Zoffix Znet)++ | 4 files
Implement rudimentary CPAN dist processor
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Zoffix Well, that was easy... It's almost as if the original designer of the site thought ahead and imagined one day we'd have more than one dist source :} 00:22
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Zoffix One thing I don't get is how to handle dists that exist on both CPAN and p6c ecosystem... Currently, it indexes them as if they were entirely differnt dists :/ 00:22
I think I'm gonna leave it like that though. To encourage people who use CPAN to toss the dist from p6c. We could have some key in `support` for repository so that the site could link to it even for CPAN dists 00:24
heh, I see ./id/J/JO/JONATHAN/Perl6/NativeCall-v1.meta in CPAN dists that looks to link to jnthn/zavolaj, which is a 404 00:26
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Geth perl6-most-wanted: 0b94ef197f | (David Warring)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | most-wanted/modules.md
Update modules.md

Note WIP on Font::Freetype - bindings to the Freetype2 library		 00:34
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Geth modules.perl6.org/cpan-support: 03fa2a7a78 | (Zoffix Znet)++ | 4 files
Improve CPAN processor

  - Load last modified time
  - Make dist processor skip the interval pause, since we don't need it
  - Don't run the meta checker post processor		 00:55
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Zoffix calls it a day 01:28
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Zoffix upgrading perl on the modules.perl6.org. I'm pretty sure I installed a new perl along the old one and so the site won't be affected until I `switch` to newer perl instead of `use`ing it on the current shell (still installing all the deps). But mentioning this in case things explode 02:40
... I'm going to bed
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BenGoldberg wonders why all thirteen of the *able6 bots simultaneously quit then reconnected. Is it because we've got an unlucky number of them? . o O(Where's a hobbit when you need one) 03:42
redhands How can I force stdout autoflush on every write? 03:47
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samcv how do i get chdir to chdir taking into account a Path::IO's CWD? 05:37
i made a Path::IO object, but if i chdir into it, it ignores the CWD associated with the IO object
.IO.absolute.IO works but is there a trivial way to fix it without doing that? 05:38
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u-ou What value should I use to denote the absence of a value? Is the answer Nil? 06:09
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hoffentlichja u-ou: Any 06:09
u-ou ahh
what's Nil for then?
hoffentlichja m: sub r() {}; r; 06:11
camelia ( no output )
hoffentlichja m: sub r() {}; say r;
camelia Nil
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u-ou ic 06:13
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hoffentlichja u-ou: you can check if a variable is defined with .defined or you can use "with" and "without" 06:14
m: my $x; say $x.defined;
camelia False
hoffentlichja m: my $s; say 'not defined?' without $s; 06:15
camelia not defined?
u-ou m: say so Any
camelia False
u-ou cool
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sena_kun lizmat, ping? 06:41
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geekosaur suggest you .tell; think lizmat's asleep at this time of * 07:01
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sena_kun I can wait, so no problem. But thanks, I guess I'll .tell in a hour or two then. 07:02
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HoboWithAShotgun welcome to another week full of ungrateful customers, dyslexic management and unrealistic deadlines 07:10
geekosaur ...I didn't think this was #lopsa >.>
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sena_kun .tell lizmat hi! there is a rakudo regression for cro, that gives me "Serialization Error: missing static code ref for closure '' (src/Perl6/World.nqp:2217)". I am not sure how bad it is, but I hope it is not. ping me for a way to reproduce(or better .tell) if it's obscure enough. thanks. 08:27
yoleaux sena_kun: I'll pass your message to lizmat.
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grondilu how can adding a C<note "foo"> prevent a "Cannot look up attributes in a Pair type object" error? 08:42
lizmat .
yoleaux 08:27Z <sena_kun> lizmat: hi! there is a rakudo regression for cro, that gives me "Serialization Error: missing static code ref for closure '' (src/Perl6/World.nqp:2217)". I am not sure how bad it is, but I hope it is not. ping me for a way to reproduce(or better .tell) if it's obscure enough. thanks.
lizmat .tell sena_kun will pass it on to jnthn 08:43
yoleaux lizmat: I'll pass your message to sena_kun.
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u-ou .tell u-ou i will pass that on to u-ou when u-ou is around 08:52
yoleaux u-ou: Talking to yourself is the first sign of madness.
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timotimo grondilu: perhaps the difference between sinking and non-sinking? 09:32
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soonix hi can someone help around perl5? 10:16
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timotimo you'll want a perl5 focused channel for that 10:19
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ilmari unless you mean Inline::Perl5 10:19
soonix there is nobody to help :S 10:20
ilmari soonix: I don't see you on #perl... 10:23
also, nobody can help until you actually ask a question 10:24
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hoffentlichja are perl6 programmers still called perl monks? 10:26
lizmat I think only perl monks are called perl monks 10:29
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soonix for a school project I have to write OAuth2 where with client_id and client_secret with grant_type = client_credentials I request a token and then I download json with this token 10:32
:(
Does anyone have some examples of how to do this? 10:33
timotimo metacpan.org/pod/distribution/Net-...OAuth2.pod ? 10:34
you can literally just put client_id, client_secret and grant_type into Net::OAuth2::Profile::Password->new 10:35
hoffentlichja lizmat: but how do perl programers call themselves? python programmers call themselves pythonistas 10:36
lizmat I would argue that only pythonistas call themselves pythonistas 10:37
or are you saying you cannot be a python programmer without being a pythonista ? 10:38
hoffentlichja lizmat: and what is a pythonista if not a python programmer?
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hoffentlichja I'm only saying that programmers from different language communities like to call themselves some way 10:39
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timotimo nobody is forcing python programmers to call themselves pythonistas 10:39
lizmat
.oO( friggin' flaky wifi )
hoffentlichja lizmat: I'm only saying that programmers from different language communities like to call themselves some way
timotimo it doesn't matter that pythonistas are "all" python programmers
hoffentlichja timotimo: I know, but programmers choose that, and it's nice sometimes 10:40
timotimo sure
hoffentlichja I was only curious how perl programmers like to call themselves
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masak I'm in a situation where I make a small change, and I get the error "Unhandled exception: Cannot find method 'Stringy': no method cache and no .^find_method" 11:27
with a stacktrace from NQP
and I'm having a hard time finding out why my small change is causing this error. any clues? 11:28
timotimo any more info from --ll-exception?
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masak ...no. 11:29
jast hoffentlichja: just one data point, but I prefer to not give myself some weird name based on technology I use (except maybe Git) 11:30
timotimo huh
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masak it dies in SETTING::src/core/Exception.pm:452 11:31
something called .handle-exception
timotimo oh, ah 11:32
m: BEGIN { die "oh no" }
camelia Unhandled exception: Cannot find method 'Stringy': no method cache and no .^find_method
at SETTING::src/core/Exception.pm:395 (/home/camelia/rakudo-m-inst-1/share/perl6/runtime/CORE.setting.moarvm:print_exception)
from SETTING::src/core/Exceptio…
hoffentlichja jast: fair enough, but some programmers do that, I wanted to know if perl programmers do that in general and how they refer to themselves, Go programmers like to call themselves gophers because of their mascot
timotimo m: constant foo = die "oh no"
camelia Unhandled exception: Cannot find method 'Stringy': no method cache and no .^find_method
at SETTING::src/core/Exception.pm:395 (/home/camelia/rakudo-m-inst-1/share/perl6/runtime/CORE.setting.moarvm:print_exception)
from SETTING::src/core/Exceptio…
masak timotimo: o.O
timotimo it's this
masak so it is.
but what is this? :)
timotimo we got it when we made runnign END phasers happen in HLL land
i think?
jast hoffentlichja: my impression has been that perl programmers don't that too much (apart from monkhood perhaps, but I've never seen that anywhere other than perlmonks, either)
timotimo i had a "fix" but that just caused other things to break in the same way :) 11:33
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masak in other words, I should check the things I have that happen at BEGIN time 11:34
timotimo aye
masak heh. managed to narrow down the problem by running my modules least-dependent-first until one broke :P 11:36
yep. found it. 11:37
ok -- so the rule right now is "don't fail at BEGIN time" 11:38
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timotimo i wonder if i still have that commit stashed 11:38
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timotimo doesn't seem like it 11:39
hoffentlichja jast: I'm new to perl and reading around I've seen a few times "perl monks" mentioned, and got the impression that perl programmers may like to call themselves perl monks, though I'm aware there's a site / forum with that name that comes up often in search results 11:41
timotimo yeah, i think only people who frequent that site call themselves perl monks
hoffentlichja understood :) 11:42
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lizmat masak timotimo we should be able to fail at BEGIN time 11:48
timotimo yes, we should :)
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timotimo i think we're expecting a low-level exception in the handling code but we're getting a HLL exception object 11:49
hoffentlichja what IDE or code editor do you guys use?
lizmat timotimo: not vice versa? expecting a HLL exception and getting a low level one ? 11:50
timotimo i think it's that way around
MasterDuke hoffentlichja: vim
jast hoffentlichja: vim
timotimo vim, though i haven't set it up well for C coding yet 11:52
hoffentlichja MasterDuke: I'm a vimer as well, although a few months ago I also switched partially to emacs with evil-mode and lately I've been using vscode but the vim extension(s) are lacking, can't seem to fight a right balance anymore, each have their pros and cons but I perl6 support seems to not be so great in either of them
find*
MasterDuke if you're interested in more of an IDE experience, there's github.com/perl6/Atom-as-a-Perl6-IDE
hoffentlichja MasterDuke: I prefer vscode over atom 11:53
MasterDuke never used either myself
heard good and bad about both equally
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hoffentlichja I've tried atom in the past but I'd choose vscode anytime though atom has better extension support, still 11:54
MasterDuke maybe you can port the atom perl6 stuff to vscode 11:55
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lizmat has a fix for 'BEGIN die' issue 11:58
it's basically the same problem as the sprintf issue
hoffentlichja MasterDuke: it wouldn't be something trivial 11:59
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MasterDuke hoffentlichja: no worries, i've got all day :) 12:02
lizmat masak timotimo: github.com/rakudo/rakudo/commit/d76af6aa45
hoffentlichja MasterDuke: what do you mean?
jast to me that sounded like an offer to do all the porting for you ;)
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camelia Type check failed in binding to parameter '$i'; expected Str but got Int (1)
in sub pok at <tmp> line 1
in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1
hoffentlichja jast: I doubt it but I also wouldn't ask or expect someone to do that for me
MasterDuke ha! other way around! just joking that since i don't use vscode, it doesn't bother me how long the porting takes
hoffentlichja MasterDuke: vscode's algorithm for syntax highlighting is very nice, it doesn't choke on complex syntax and the editor stays smooth, unlike some others 12:05
jast drat. :)
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Zoffix hoffentlichja: u-ou Nil is the absense of value. Any is just the default default value parameters/variables have. 12:18
hoffentlichja Zoffix: so if a var has type Any doesn't that mean it has no value? 12:19
Zoffix redhands, it already flushes. IIRC there's currently no buffering on TTY handles. Otherwise, pass :!buffer to .open
samcv: what's the code you're using to chdir? 12:20
o-oh 12:22
hoffentlichja: depends on its `is default` settings, by default it's the type object of the variable's type, or Any if the type is Mu. So it does have a value: the type object. If you assign another type object, that'll be its value. `Nil` job on the other hand is to signal the absence of value, so if you assign `Nil` to a variable, you'll get its `is default` value 12:24
m: my $x is default(42) = Any; say $x
camelia (Any)
Zoffix m: my $x is default(42) = Any; say $x; $x = Nil; say $x
camelia (Any)
42
Zoffix Man, this doesn't chdir() into the right dir :o my $p = IO::Path.new: ".", :CWD</home/zoffix>; chdir $p; dir.say 12:25
I hope it's a new bug and not something missed on IO grant.
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hoffentlichja I see 12:26
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HoboWithAShotgun is there an operator that calls a method on a thing and keeps calling the method on the return values until it encounters undef or fails, in which case it returns the last valid value 12:31
Zoffix nope
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HoboWithAShotgun basically a parent operator as in (imaginative) $root = $some-nested-node..parent 12:32
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Zoffix m: my $root = class { has @.stuff = <a b c>; method node { @!stuff.shift } }.new; say do loop { LAST $root<>; .node orelse last with $root;} 12:36
camelia No such method '!capture_phasers' for invocant of type 'Code'
in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1
Zoffix heh :)
m: my $root = class { has @.stuff = <a b c>; method node { @!stuff.shift } }.new; (loop {$root.node orelse last}).tail.say 12:37
camelia c
Zoffix m: my $root = class { has @.stuff = <a b c>; method node { @!stuff.shift } }.new; ({$root.node} ...^ !*.defined).tail.say 12:41
camelia c
Zoffix :)
.oO( I guess there *is* an operator to do that, after all)
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Zoffix Looks like the chdir bug existed in all the releases. I'm shocked it made it through IO Grant undiscovered. 12:43
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Zoffix I see why :/ got carried away testing all the modes instead of all the paths: github.com/perl6/roast/blob/master...t#L61-L140 12:45
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Zoffix ultimately it's a bug due to IO::Path.Str not respecting :CWD ;/ 12:54
lizmat Zoffix: FWIW, IO::Path only has a BUILD call in its BUILDALLPLAN 12:59
Zoffix lizmat: I've no idea what those do :) Is it bad that it only got a BUILD call? 13:00
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lizmat no, it means that this is less likely to be a problem related to the auto-generated BUILDALL :-) 13:00
Zoffix Ah, yeah, it's not. It existed in all the releases and we have IO::Path.Str ignore :CWD by design and the bug's due to that "feature" 13:01
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jdv79 samcv: i don't think its that solutions aren't known (to the irc log issue). its just tuits. 13:21
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Zoffix samcv: fixed that &chdir ignoring :CWD bug you spotted: github.com/rakudo/rakudo/commit/4906a1de8a 13:29
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Geth modules.perl6.org/cpan-support: 1800e0f2b1 | (Zoffix Znet)++ | 3 files
Add disambiguation page for /dist route
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[Coke] . 14:12
Geth modules.perl6.org/cpan-support: d46c55353e | (Zoffix Znet)++ | templates/root/search.html.ep
Make search page link to fully qualified /dist pages
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[Coke] github.com/perl6/doc/blob/a27ba650....pod6#L409 - "mimimum" 14:19
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Geth doc: e32604b562 | (Zoffix Znet)++ | doc/Language/regexes.pod6
s/mimimum/minimum/; [Coke]++
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synopsebot Link: doc.perl6.org/language/regexes
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yoleaux 08:43Z <lizmat> sena_kun: will pass it on to jnthn
jnthn heh...bug circle :P 14:35
sena_kun yeah, circle. :)
hoffentlichja Zoffix: when do we use .func and when .&func ?
Zoffix hoffentlichja: always .&func and never .func; `.foo` is a method call, so it won't work if there's no method named "func" 14:37
hoffentlichja ah I see, it makes sense
Zoffix m: sub foo { say "subroutine" }; class Foo { method foo { say "method" } }; with Foo.new { .foo; .&foo }
camelia method
Too many positionals passed; expected 0 arguments but got 1
in sub foo at <tmp> line 1
in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1
Zoffix m: sub foo ($) { say "subroutine" }; class Foo { method foo { say "method" } }; with Foo.new { .foo; .&foo }
camelia method
subroutine
Zoffix with the .&foo form passing the invocant to the sub as the first arg 14:38
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hoffentlichja understood 14:38
thanks
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HoboWithAShotgun in method f($s where %h = $x), what does this assignment in the where clause do? 15:18
Geth modules.perl6.org/cpan-support: 816583d818 | (Zoffix Znet)++ | 2 files
Set off donation bar a bit form rest of content
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Zoffix HoboWithAShotgun: exploits unsupported behaviour by assigning $x to %h 15:23
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Geth modules.perl6.org/cpan-support: 76931ce08b | (Zoffix Znet)++ | 4 files
Add stub of CPAN dist page
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HoboWithAShotgun and that has which effect? 15:39
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Zoffix HoboWithAShotgun: assignment :) 15:41
m: my %h; my $x := {:42foo, :70bar}; sub ($s where {%h := $x}) {}(%h); say %h 15:42
camelia {bar => 70, foo => 42}
Zoffix But side effects from `where` is not a supported behaviour, so burn the code you saw that in with fire :)
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Geth ecosystem: 64be703476 | (Tom Browder)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | META.list
add a dummy module for testing with Perl 6 CPAN
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Zoffix raises an eyebrow 15:47
tbrowder: FWIW, your `perl` key in that META file has the wrong value. It specifies the minimum version of language to be `6` and it won't ever be that high. You can use "6.*" 15:48
m: say v6 before v6.c 15:49
camelia False
HoboWithAShotgun bit it's not :=
it's =
Zoffix HoboWithAShotgun: same difference
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tbrowder Zoffix: thnx, fixed. 15:52
HoboWithAShotgun and it gets called differently, sec
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HoboWithAShotgun m: my %h = :foo<FOO>, :bar<BAR>; my $key = "foo"; sub callme($arg where %h = $key) { say %h; say $arg; }; callme("bar"); 15:56
camelia {bar => BAR, foo => FOO}
bar
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HoboWithAShotgun i mean i know it checks wether $arg is a key in %h but i have no idea how 15:57
Zoffix It doesn't 15:58
I'd expect that to die
HoboWithAShotgun m: my %h = :foo<FOO>, :bar<BAR>; my $key = "foo"; sub callme($arg where %h = $key) { say %h; say $arg; }; callme("xxx");
camelia Constraint type check failed in binding to parameter '$arg'; expected anonymous constraint to be met but got Str ("xxx")
in sub callme at <tmp> line 1
in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1
HoboWithAShotgun it does apparently 15:59
Zoffix That's the smartmatch with %h, `= $key` is not involved
Ahhhh
Never mind, I was wrong
HoboWithAShotgun: it smartmatches with `%h` (which checks for existance of key), and `= $key` is the default value 16:00
tony-o m: my %h = :foo<FOO>, :bar<BAR>; my $key = "foo"; sub callme($arg where %h = $key) { say %h; say $arg; }; callme;
camelia {bar => BAR, foo => FOO}
foo
HoboWithAShotgun i am hesitant to ask where that is documented ;) 16:01
Zoffix HoboWithAShotgun: docs.perl6.org/type/Signature#inde...gnature%29 16:02
Geth DBIish/add_more_use_nativecall: 1a823c3300 | (Timo Paulssen)++ | 3 files
add missing "use NativeCall" to ::Native modules

not sure how it used to work without this.		 16:03
DBIish: timo++ created pull request #103:
add missing "use NativeCall" to ::Native modules
timotimo will travis build the code for the pull request?
Zoffix `where` smartmatches. That's basically all the documentation needed. I just got confused :)
Geth DBIish/add_more_use_nativecall: aa76d362a8 | (Timo Paulssen)++ | META6.json
minor version bump
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Zoffix timotimo: yes, it shows status of builds on PR page: github.com/perl6/DBIish/pull/103 16:04
timotimo aha!
that wasn't there a minute ago
HoboWithAShotgun Zoffix, tx but that's just the page about type constraints 16:08
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Zoffix HoboWithAShotgun: what sort of docs were you looking for? 16:09
Geth DBIish: 1a823c3300 | (Timo Paulssen)++ | 3 files
add missing "use NativeCall" to ::Native modules

not sure how it used to work without this.
DBIish: aa76d362a8 | (Timo Paulssen)++ | META6.json
minor version bump
DBIish: d2d6e19b05 | (Jonathan Stowe)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | 4 files
Merge pull request #103 from perl6/add_more_use_nativecall

add missing "use NativeCall" to ::Native modules
HoboWithAShotgun about this %h = $key syntax
Zoffix hm, doc search for "Smartmatch" don't show anything :(
HoboWithAShotgun in the where clause
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Zoffix HoboWithAShotgun: that's not the syntax in the code we're talking about. it's sub (ARG = DEFAULT_VALUE) => sub callme($arg = $default-value). And you can type-constraint the arg: subset HKey where { %h{$_}:exists }; sub (HKey $arg = $default-value) {}; and you can shorten this and specify the `where` clause inline: sub ($arg where { %h{$_}:exists } = $default-value) {} and since smartmatch of non-Regex and 16:14
non-Map keys with a hash checks for existence of a key, you can shorten it still by writing sub ($arg where %h = $default-value) {}
But as the existence of this discussion demonstrates, writing it this way is a bad idea and causes confusion
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Zoffix Especially since smartmatch with hash has more behaviours than just existence of key check 16:15
m: my %h = :foo<FOO>, :bar<BAR>; my $key = "foo"; sub callme($arg where %h = $key) { say %h; say $arg; }; callme(/f/);
camelia {bar => BAR, foo => FOO}
/f/
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Zoffix m: my %h = :foo<FOO>, :bar<BAR>; my $key = "foo"; sub callme($arg where %h = $key) { say %h; say $arg; }; callme(%h); 16:15
camelia {bar => BAR, foo => FOO}
{bar => BAR, foo => FOO}
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Zoffix So there's no assignment to %h and no assignment to where clause, it's assignment of default value to $arg when the arg wasn't provided 16:16
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Geth modules.perl6.org/cpan-support: 96444904ce | (Zoffix Znet)++ | lib/ModulesPerl6/Model/Dists.pm
Toss old "dist problems" from DB
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Geth modules.perl6.org/cpan-support: 861173c26d | (Zoffix Znet)++ | 5 files
Implement extractor for CPAN dists

  - Add `files` dist property. Keep it empty for now for non-CPAN dists		 17:13
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medfly Hi folks. I want to run the roast testsuite because I heard an OS I like is failing in OS-specific ways on it. when I run 'make spectest' it hangs at some test (rosettacode/sierpinski_triangle.t) but not running it manually. any idea>? 17:37
mspo what does ktruss say it's doing? 17:38
medfly hi mspo
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Zoffix medfly: TTY vs non-TTY? 17:39
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medfly One of the 4 processes I get from 'pgrep rakudo' is totally silent in ktrace, the others periodically look at the clock and sleep 17:41
Zoffix wonder if it's the buffering stuff recently implemented
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Zoffix medfly: try perl6 -e 'say qx|perl6 rosettacode/sierpinski_triangle.t|' 17:44
Does that hang?
medfly nope 17:45
1..1
ok 1 - Sierpinski Triangle
oh, just perl6 might be the wrong one
i got it from a package manager first
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Geth modules.perl6.org/cpan-support: 23f81e729b | (Zoffix Znet)++ | 2 files
Add files missed from last commit
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zelenkanew01 i have a problem which is about telnet 18:06
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Juerd No, that's irc. 18:07
Geth modules.perl6.org/cpan-support: e164379823 | (Zoffix Znet)++ | lib/ModulesPerl6/DbBuilder/Dist/Source/CPAN.pm
Handle impolite archives
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Zoffix Well, you could use telnet to IRC :) 18:29
teatime don't forget to PONG!
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ZoffixTelnet Telnet Zoffix says hi :) 18:30
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teatime nice 18:30
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timotimo hmpf, i need to put my readme into my module's pod so that mi6 will put it back into the readme for me 18:37
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Zoffix :) 18:38
There's an open Issue on that subject: github.com/skaji/mi6/issues/23 18:39
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lizmat starts working on the P6W, lemme know if you think I'm going to miss something (important :-) 18:52
Zoffix lizmat: not super important, but might be worth mentioning people should upload stuff to CPAN. The bot already reports uploads and in a few hours modules.perl6.org will show CPAN dists on it 18:53
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ugexe whats the best way to pass data into an anonymous role? e.g. the anonymous version of `my role Foo { has $.foo }; say (1 but Foo(42)).foo;` 18:53
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lizmat Zoffix: I think I'll mention it next week, when it's sure to have gotten some live traffic, if that's ok with you 18:58
Zoffix Sure 18:59
Actually, it's better that way. 3pm... I probably should relax for a bit instead of coding :)
jnthn lizmat: fwiw, leave the Cro SPA tutorial I wrote for next week also; I didn't get chance to deploy it to the site for real today when I was at the office, and am too tired/lazy to install the google cloud tool on my home box to do it now :) 19:00
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lizmat jnthn: ok 19:01
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virtualsue jnthn / lizmat I am now taking my little Go / P6 talk to the big Go meetup in London 19:26
lizmat virtualsue++ :-) 19:27
virtualsue suitably modified by taking out any bragging and teasing
with some P6
I had hoped it wouldn't be too massive (80 or so) but as it happens one of the more well-known Google dev advocates is suddenly coming so now there will be ca 150 19:30
mspo showdown!
virtualsue oh hell no :-) 19:31
Zoffix virtualsue++
virtualsue I think they will be well up for this
El_Che virtualsue: I like both, but more often than not they have very opposed design choices
virtualsue: will the talk be recorded?
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virtualsue i think that's likely and I am a bit pressed for time to prepare ... we shall see 19:33
El_Che good luck!
mspo (speaking of golang) did you guys decide about the whole thread phaser thing?
teatime virtualsue: I like your PTR record. I never thought of doing that.
jnthn mspo: What is the "thread phaser thing"? :) 19:34
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mspo jnthn: you know how go (and perl6) can't drop privileges on linux reliably? 19:34
jnthn: not just the traditional setuid stuff, but it also translates into namespaces and stuff 19:35
jnthn: it's primarily because there's no way to say "stay single thread until X"
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virtualsue I don't really do Highlander talks. It isn't advocacy. It's just interesting. 19:37
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Geth modules.perl6.org/cpan-support: 2203ec9e9b | (Zoffix Znet)++ | 9 files
Implement unplugged tree file viewer for CPAN dists
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Zoffix It's taking shape: i.imgur.com/XzAcDpe.png 19:43
I think I'm calling it a day tho. Have a ton of Perl Web work to do at $work this week; rather not burn out by doing too much of week on the weekends too
\o
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jnthn Zoffix++ 19:44
preaction Zoffix: that looks amazing 19:45
HoboWithAShotgun in the where clause 19:50
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lizmat and another Perl 6 Weekly hits the Net: p6weekly.wordpress.com/2017/10/02/...e-granted/ 22:30
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gfldex lizmat++ week++ 22:37
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Zoffix lizmat++ # good weekly. 22:51
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Zoffix I rushed to IRC to correct the item about chained < ops, because I made changes to ≤ not <, but then remembered that yeah, I did do stuff with the < ops too :) lizmat++ making us remember what we did in a week :) 22:53
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timotimo realizes he didn't do anything show-offable 22:59
but for now i must give my wrists some rest, so they can recover soon :| 23:00
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AlexDaniel maybe *ables want a bouncer? 23:04
perigrin they seem quite adept at bouncing without it 23:10
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Geth whateverable: 2da9c8abf0 | (Aleks-Daniel Jakimenko-Aleksejev)++ | lib/Whateverable.pm6
Don't generate paths with double slashes

Tar will not normalize them. Issue #240.
This was a regression after 845db2e47fd6468a069bc9f2b54997e8ae412f48.		 23:15
whateverable: 11af308d8d | (Aleks-Daniel Jakimenko-Aleksejev)++ | Sakefile
Adapt Sakefile targets

Things are much easier now that we have all bots as systemd services.
Note that this is using ｢any(…) ~ ‘str’｣ which is a fairly new Rakudo addition.
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buggable New CPAN upload: JSON-Fast-0.9.5.tar.gz by TIMOTIMO www.cpan.org/authors/id/T/TI/TIMOT...9.5.tar.gz 23:56

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