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ingy perl6 -e $(perl6 -e $(perl6 -e $(perl6 -e $(perl6 -e $(perl6 -e'{.fmt($_).say}(<{.fmt($_).say}(<%s>)>)'))))) # <= Do not cast your quines before Perl! 04:16
TimToady: ^^ 04:17
raschipi works everywhere too: REPL, file, stdin, cmdline 04:24
well, not file because it sends it to stdout instead of writing another file. 04:26
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AlexDaniel squashable6: status 05:09
squashable6 AlexDaniel, 🍕🍕 SQUASHathon is in progress! The end of the event in 1 day and ≈6 hours. See github.com/rakudo/rakudo/wiki/Mont...Squash-Day
AlexDaniel, Log and stats: gist.github.com/d32a7dd26b1ae64bc0...7b10b114c9
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andrzejku araraloren: Hi!:) 05:44
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araraloren andrzejku hi 05:52
Geth ¦ whateverable: AlexDaniel self-assigned Support multifile gists github.com/perl6/whateverable/issues/36 05:55
squashable6 🍕 AlexDaniel++ wrote a comment on “Support multifile gists”: github.com/perl6/whateverable/issu...-394061431 05:57
andrzejku araraloren: how are you doing? 05:58
araraloren andrzejku :) fix my perl 6 app currently 05:59
andrzejku araraloren: oh nice :) 06:06
araraloren andrzejku , an app that find source file such as c/c++/makefile 06:17
A specific find 06:18
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andrzejku araraloren: the are already 06:38
silver searcher
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doc: 85f3164026 | (Juan Julián Merelo Guervós)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | doc/Language/numerics.pod6
Merge pull request #2088 from perl6/rafaelschipiura-patch-1

Update numerics.pod6 Let's give it a try. Thanks.
synopsebot Link: doc.perl6.org/language/numerics
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araraloren andrzejku sliver ? 06:41
andrzejku araraloren: try ag command 06:42
:)
araraloren what is ag
andrzejku kind of grep 06:43
donpdonp araraloren: github.com/ggreer/the_silver_searcher#readme
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araraloren intersting :) 06:49
andrzejku araraloren: ya I am using it in my daily work
araraloren My app is just search by extension
not by content
andrzejku araraloren: thats what actually find . -iname do :P
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araraloren yeah, but with perl 6, and you can have own configuration 06:50
I recommend you have a try
github.com/araraloren/perl6-app-findsource
hythm_ p6: role R { submethod BUILD { say "R BUILD" } }; class C does R { submethod BUILD { say "C BUILD" } }; C.new # should not R.BUILD run as well? 06:51
camelia C BUILD
araraloren It can cooperate with grep/other command
andrzejku ok I will look at it :)
araraloren hythm_ submethod will not inherite by child class 06:52
andrzejku araraloren: now I have to go there is a kid party today with dinosaurs
araraloren andrzejku it quite simple
andrzejku :D
araraloren dinosaurs ?
andrzejku ya
RARARA ROAR
buggable New CPAN upload: App-FindSource-0.0.5.tar.gz by ALOREN modules.perl6.org/dist/App::FindSou...pan:ALOREN 06:53
hythm_ hmm, why this works then?:
p6: role R { submethod BUILD { say "R BUILD" } }; class C does R { submethod TWEAK { say "C TWEAK" } }; C.new
camelia R BUILD
C TWEAK
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araraloren hythm_ oh sorry, R is a role :) 06:53
andrzejku araraloren: anyway thats good idea, I had just read a few pages of book Perl Minimal Unix 06:54
araraloren IDK what happened :) hythm_
andrzejku where the guy is substuting unix commands like sed grep find with perl one
I wonder to have some manual for Perl6
araraloren there are many manual now
andrzejku especially sed is awful tool for me :D
araraloren oh wait 06:55
jmerelo andrzejku: which substitutes Unix for Perl 6, you mean.
hythm_ araraloren np, thanks for responding
araraloren andrzejku have you read this www.grymoire.com/Unix/Sed.html#uh-4a
jmerelo andrzejku: like ls or grep or things like that in Perl 6
araraloren if not I recommend you have a look
It's a awesome tutorial 06:56
andrzejku araraloren: ahh actually I mention to use Perl6 instead sed
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andrzejku www.amazon.com/Minimal-Perl-Unix-L...1932394508 06:56
araraloren: check that book
I want to have Perl6 version :) 06:57
araraloren andrzejku hmm, that's true
andrzejku sed syntax sucks
jmerelo andrzejku: give it a try and write it yourself :-)
andrzejku and it also somehow good to have
araraloren oh, andrzejku I got you
andrzejku one lang to own all!
haha
jmerelo: thanks for idea 06:58
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andrzejku maybe I should try it :D 06:58
araraloren sweet 06:59
andrzejku araraloren: well I have to go
araraloren oh, bye
andrzejku araraloren: visit dinosaurs
araraloren: bye bye ! :)
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doc: 6cd2f1aa1c | (JJ Merelo)++ | 2 files
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synopsebot Link: doc.perl6.org/language/classtut
doc: 97e1d49cbf | (JJ Merelo)++ | doc/Language/functions.pod6
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synopsebot Link: doc.perl6.org/language/functions
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doc: 72ca26fc8e | (JJ Merelo)++ | doc/Type/Signature.pod6
Changes example

To a rather more correct version, explaining the use of aliases with or without colon. Also some reflow in text and code
synopsebot Link: doc.perl6.org/type/Signature
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scovit Hi, I have a question: is there any syntactic sugar for this: 08:25
yoleaux 31 May 2018 22:09Z <b2gills> scovit: It seems like the compile time error doesn't throw unless both the parameter and argument are different sub-types of Any
scovit m: class A { method c {} }; class B { method d {} }; my $e = A.new(); my $f = B.new(); sub ciao($g where "c" ~~ ($g.^methods>>.name).Set) { }; ciao($e); 08:26
camelia ( no output )
scovit m: class A { method c {} }; class B { method d {} }; my $e = A.new(); my $f = B.new(); sub ciao($g where "c" ~~ ($g.^methods>>.name).Set) { }; ciao($f);
camelia Constraint type check failed in binding to parameter '$g'; expected anonymous constraint to be met but got B (B.new)
in sub ciao at <tmp> line 1
in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1
scovit this kind of mechanism
checking if an object can do something
jmerelo scovit: there's can and cando 08:27
scovit: docs.perl6.org/routine/cando
m: class A { method c {} }; say "A".^can("c") 08:28
camelia ()
jmerelo m: class A { method c {} }; say A.^can("c")
camelia (c)
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scovit m: class A { method c {} }; class B { method d {} }; my $e = A.new(); my $f = B.new(); sub ciao($g where so $g.^can("c")) {}; ciao($e); 08:31
jmerelo: nicer
camelia ( no output )
scovit m: class A { method c {} }; class B { method d {} }; my $e = A.new(); my $f = B.new(); sub ciao($g where so $g.^can("c")) {}; ciao($f);
camelia Constraint type check failed in binding to parameter '$g'; expected anonymous constraint to be met but got B (B.new)
in sub ciao at <tmp> line 1
in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1
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scovit is there a way to custom the error message of Constrint type check? 08:33
like to something like: expected "so $g.^can("c")" but got B (B.new) 08:35
also, if I understand correctly, the check is runtime 08:36
yep..
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scovit are these kind of checks ever gonna become compile time? 08:37
I am thinking also about Roles
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moritz nominal types are check at compile time, if possible. That applies for roles too 08:41
I don't know if anybody plans to hoist constraint type check to compile time 08:42
you could
jmerelo scovit: there's an issue for constraint unmet errors github.com/rakudo/rakudo/issues/1883 08:44
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scovit this is runtime: 08:55
m: role Q { }; class A is Q { method c {} }; class B { method d {} }; my $e = A.new(); my $f = B.new(); sub ciao(Q $g) {}; say "we"; ciao($f);
camelia we
Type check failed in binding to parameter '$g'; expected Q but got B (B.new)
in sub ciao at <tmp> line 1
in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1
scovit could be compile time, no?
moritz could be, though requires some sophisticated analysis 09:03
because $f isn't typed as B
scovit true, then it would be probably worth it to do it for modules but not for scripts 09:12
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scovit There is the problem of Mixins 09:15
m: role Q { }; class A does Q { method c {} }; class B { method d {} }; my $e = A.new(); my $f = B.new(); sub ciao(Q $g) {}; if (1,0).pick { $f does Q; }; ciao($f); 09:16
camelia Type check failed in binding to parameter '$g'; expected Q but got B (B.new)
in sub ciao at <tmp> line 1
in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1
scovit m: role Q { }; class A does Q { method c {} }; class B { method d {} }; my $e = A.new(); my $f = B.new(); sub ciao(Q $g) {}; if (1,0).pick { $f does Q; }; ciao($f);
camelia Type check failed in binding to parameter '$g'; expected Q but got B (B.new)
in sub ciao at <tmp> line 1
in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1
scovit m: role Q { }; class A does Q { method c {} }; class B { method d {} }; my $e = A.new(); my $f = B.new(); sub ciao(Q $g) {}; if (1,0).pick { $f does Q; }; ciao($f);
camelia Type check failed in binding to parameter '$g'; expected Q but got B (B.new)
in sub ciao at <tmp> line 1
in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1
scovit m: role Q { }; class A does Q { method c {} }; class B { method d {} }; my $e = A.new(); my $f = B.new(); sub ciao(Q $g) {}; if (1,0).pick { $f does Q; }; ciao($f); 09:17
camelia ( no output )
scovit lol
only in a purely functional language..
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scovit so, I conclude that it is in general a bad idea to check for ^can or roles in a signature. Better to let the runtime to blow at the right spot with an explicative error message 09:32
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AlexDaniel omg I think I finally added support for multifile gists in whateverable 11:19
just fixing some tests now 11:20
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MasterDuke .tell scovit a way to customize the error message from where constraints: class A { method c {} }; class B { method d {} }; my $e = A.new(); my $f = B.new(); sub ciao($g where so $g.^can("c") || die "Can't do c") {}; ciao($f);' 11:41
yoleaux MasterDuke: I'll pass your message to scovit.
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squashable6 🍕 AlexDaniel++ edited issue “Make it easier to run for contributors”: github.com/perl6/whateverable/issues/122 12:13
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Support for multifile gists

Resolves a long-standing issue #36 (but no tests yet).
It works by saving all files in ‘sandbox/’, which is pretty much the only writable path. As a bonus, you should be able to use all saved files from other bots (note that all bots will now support multifile ... (13 more lines)		 12:36
whateverable: 1f4ba0171e | (Aleks-Daniel Jakimenko-Aleksejev)++ | t/benchable.t
Increase timeouts in benchable tests

This way it should run locally without any failures.
squashable6 🍕 AlexDaniel++ labeled issue “Support multifile gists”: github.com/perl6/whateverable/issues/36
🍕 AlexDaniel++ unlabeled issue “Support multifile gists”: github.com/perl6/whateverable/issues/36
🍕 AlexDaniel++ unlabeled issue “Support for github, gitlab, bitbucket, … links”: github.com/perl6/whateverable/issues/66
🍕 AlexDaniel++ wrote a comment on “Support for github, gitlab, bitbucket, … links”: github.com/perl6/whateverable/issu...-394084541 12:37
Geth doc/master: 4 commits pushed by (JJ Merelo)++
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AlexDaniel e: gist.github.com/AlexDaniel/c30fb59...80df597449 12:40
evalable6 AlexDaniel, Using file “heh” as a main file, other files are placed in “sandbox/”
foo
bar
baz
AlexDaniel \o/
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jmerelo AlexDaniel: cool! 12:41
araraloren awesome 12:43
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squashable6 🍕 AlexDaniel++ closed issue “Proper README is needed”: github.com/perl6/whateverable/issues/26 12:53
🍕 AlexDaniel++ wrote a comment on “Proper README is needed”: github.com/perl6/whateverable/issu...-394085499
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Geth whateverable: AlexDaniel self-unassigned Support multifile gists github.com/perl6/whateverable/issues/36
9a95f3569f | (Aleks-Daniel Jakimenko-Aleksejev)++ | t/benchable.t

Hard to tell what was the underlying issue, so just copying original queries as is. Closes #38.		 12:57
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MasterDuke what's an example of a regex that will take a very long time to match (or not)? 13:43
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AlexDaniel m: say ‘aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa’ ~~ /a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa/ 13:58
MasterDuke: like this?
that's from swtch.com/~rsc/regexp/regexp1.html
camelia (timeout)
AlexDaniel m: say ‘a’ ~~ /a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa/
camelia Nil
AlexDaniel mhm 13:59
should be twice as many a's in the actual string
m: say ‘aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa’ ~~ /a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa/
camelia (timeout)
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MasterDuke that's the idea, but i don't know what the input will be and i still want it to take a long time 14:06
AlexDaniel oh, then just use zero-width assertion and make sure your regex fails 14:09
whos website are you hacking by the way? :)
m: say ‘hello’ ~~ /<before ‘’>*/' 14:10
camelia 5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>
Two terms in a row
at <tmp>:1
------> 3say ‘hello’ ~~ /<before ‘’>*/7⏏5'
expecting any of:
infix
infix stopper
postfix
statement end
…
AlexDaniel m: say ‘hello’ ~~ /<before ‘’>*/
ok yeah just using * is alright
camelia (timeout)
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Summertime for smartmatching against regex literals, is there any difference between m/something/ and rx/something/? 14:30
AlexDaniel Summertime: ideally no, but in practice there is a difference 14:31
Summertime: github.com/perl6/doc/issues/1675
m: m/./; dd $/ 14:32
camelia Use of uninitialized value of type Any in string context.
Methods .^name, .perl, .gist, or .say can be used to stringify it to something meaningful.
in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1
Nil $/ = Nil
AlexDaniel m: /./; dd $/
camelia Nil $/ = Nil
AlexDaniel m: rx/./; dd $/
camelia Nil $/ = Nil
AlexDaniel that's from one of the linked bug reports 14:33
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Summertime hmm, if I had a regex stored in a variable, how would one use that with match flags? 14:39
x ~~ m:g/<regexname>/; ?
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Summertime ah neat, didn't think to look at the str methods, thanks! 14:43
MasterDuke m: my $r = '(\d)'; say 'a1b2c3"'~~ m:g/<$r>/ 14:45
camelia (｢1｣ ｢2｣ ｢3｣)
MasterDuke Summertime: ^^^ works also 14:46
jnthn Indeed, though likely a good deal more slowly :) 14:47
El_Che jnthn: and, did you receive enough stacktraces so far? :)
jnthn El_Che: Plenty, it would seem :) 14:48
Plenty for us to be looking at next week :)
El_Che :) 14:49
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Summertime another question that has been stumping me a bit 15:08
trying to find all 2 element lists with both values the same 15:09
m: say ((1,1),(1,2),(3,3),(3,7)).grep: {.[0] == .[1]}
camelia ((1 1) (3 3))
Summertime is what I've got, but having the subscripts there feels a bit off, like I'm doing something wrong 15:10
MasterDuke m: say ((1,1),(1,2),(3,3),(3,7)).grep: { [==] @$_} 15:11
camelia ((1 1) (3 3))
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MasterDuke m: say ((1,1),(1,2),(3,3),(3,7)).grep: { [==] @_ } # huh, not sure what's happening here 15:12
camelia (((1 1)) ((3 3)))
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Summertime perl confuses me more every day 15:14
I'm guessing @_ causes the input to grep to change, which gives the unexpected extra list 15:15
but, using [==] $_ worked 15:16
still have the {} though, but it feels a lot neater now 15:17
also scalable, which is a bonus for any code golfing :D
squashable6 🍕 AlexDaniel++ wrote a comment on “You could hang committab…”: github.com/perl6/whateverable/issu...-394094592 15:18
b2gills To bad there isn't a syntax like `*==*` that worked like `-> $ ($a,$b) { $a == $b }` instead of `-> $a, $b { $a == $b }` 15:20
AlexDaniel squashable6: status
squashable6 AlexDaniel, 🍕🍕 SQUASHathon is in progress! The end of the event in ≈20 hours. See github.com/rakudo/rakudo/wiki/Mont...Squash-Day
AlexDaniel, Log and stats: gist.github.com/51c78bd8442c0ea4aa...40ca9a900c
🍕🍕🍕 First contribution by MasterDuke17++! ♥
Summertime function arguments deconstructing I guess? I keep expecting it to exist but yeah, can't find 15:21
maybe like a ReverseslippyWhateverCode... but at that point .[#] doesn't feel like such a pain 15:22
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Summertime on the plus side, I worked it out! 15:23
m: say ((1,1),(1,2),(3,3),(3,7)).grep: *.repeated
camelia ((1 1) (3 3))
dogbert17 m: say ((1,1),(1,2),(3,3),(3,7)).grep(-> ($a, $b) {$a == $b}) 15:25
camelia ((1 1) (3 3))
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AlexDaniel squashable6: status 16:50
squashable6 AlexDaniel, 🍕🍕 SQUASHathon is in progress! The end of the event in ≈19 hours. See github.com/rakudo/rakudo/wiki/Mont...Squash-Day
AlexDaniel, Log and stats: gist.github.com/586e12e48b39ff7298...3d9dd541c1
🍕 AlexDaniel++ edited issue “Make it easier to run for contributors”: github.com/perl6/whateverable/issues/122 16:58
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jmerelo New report on the perl6 doc repo (and rakudo repo as bonus track) www.researchgate.net/publication/3...repository Looking at entropy, and how it can reveal overlooked files as well as collaboration patterns. 17:04
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squashable6 🍕 AlexDaniel++ closed issue “Is benchable broken?”: github.com/perl6/whateverable/issues/38
🍕 AlexDaniel++ wrote a comment on “Make sure total timeout …”: github.com/perl6/whateverable/issu...-394102791 17:17
🍕 AlexDaniel++ wrote a comment on “Build any dangling branches”: github.com/perl6/whateverable/issu...-394102909 17:19
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squashable6 🍕 AlexDaniel++ closed issue “Generate @releases array automatically”: github.com/perl6/whateverable/issues/47 17:20
🍕 AlexDaniel++ wrote a comment on “Generate @releases array automatically”: github.com/perl6/whateverable/issu...-394102964
AlexDaniel m: say unique 1, -2, 2, 3, :as( { abs $_ } ); 17:33
camelia (1 -2 3)
AlexDaniel  m: say unique 1, -2, 2, 3, :as( { abs $_ } );
camelia (1 -2 3)
squashable6 🍕 JJ++ wrote a comment on “Surprising behavior when…”: github.com/perl6/whateverable/issu...-394104045 17:36
AlexDaniel m: say 42 17:37
camelia 42
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Geth whateverable: fabcd4cd5b | (Aleks-Daniel Jakimenko-Aleksejev)++ | t/evalable.t
Add an extra autodetection test

Actually, the feature is well tested, and even this test is somewhat redundant. Closes #53.		 17:40
squashable6 🍕 AlexDaniel++ closed issue “More ways to trigger evalable”: github.com/perl6/whateverable/issues/53
🍕 JJ++ edited wiki page “Installation”: github.com/perl6/whateverable/wiki/Installation 17:44
jmerelo AlexDaniel: Hanged in `/tmp/whateverable/rakudo-moar/c80ea2f28939875586d326ca1c63db2cdf7b8c8d is locked. Waiting…` when I tried to run the test again; fixed when erased. 17:49
AlexDaniel jmerelo: interesting, which test file is that?
squashable6 🍕 JJ++ wrote a comment on “Surprising behavior when…”: github.com/perl6/whateverable/issu...-394104787
jmerelo AlexDaniel: unicodable.t 17:50
It was the same problem I had before, apparently.
AlexDaniel ah, but it works now?
after installing zstd I suppose?
jmerelo AlexDaniel: yep, that might be it. 17:51
AlexDaniel jmerelo: actually, for testing some single changes, you can also use ｢sake debug:unicodable｣
and the bot will join #whateverable channel
then you can talk to the bot and usually it will be more explicit
about things like that at least
jmerelo AlexDaniel: I'm only trying to find my way for the time being...
AlexDaniel :)
jmerelo AlexDaniel: but tests work now, so I'll try to find out how to address that issue I'm commenting on. 17:52
AlexDaniel \o/
squashable6 🍕 JJ++ wrote a comment on “Surprising behavior when…”: github.com/perl6/whateverable/issu...-394105183 17:57
AlexDaniel jmerelo: usually when you write words in a query it does the search by looking at the uniname 18:00
for example
u: PILE POO
unicodable6 AlexDaniel, U+1F4A9 PILE OF POO [So] (💩)
AlexDaniel but if there are trailing spaces
u: PILE FOO
unicodable6 AlexDaniel, Found nothing!
AlexDaniel hm… that's actually interesting
ah
u: PILE POO
unicodable6 AlexDaniel, U+1F4A9 PILE OF POO [So] (💩)
AlexDaniel u: pile 18:01
unicodable6 AlexDaniel, U+1F4A9 PILE OF POO [So] (💩)
AlexDaniel was it fixed?
squashable6 🍕 JJ++ wrote a comment on “Surprising behavior when…”: github.com/perl6/whateverable/issu...-394105439
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jmerelo U: PILE 18:01
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jmerelo u: PILE 18:01
unicodable6 jmerelo, U+1F4A9 PILE OF POO [So] (💩)
jmerelo u: GREEK SMALL PI
unicodable6 jmerelo, U+0373 GREEK SMALL LETTER ARCHAIC SAMPI [Ll] (ͳ)
jmerelo, U+03C0 GREEK SMALL LETTER PI [Ll] (π)
jmerelo, 9 characters in total (ͳπϡᴦᴧᴨᴩᴪꭥ): gist.github.com/809ac66531536c21b8...ff15ff4d9d 18:02
jmerelo u: GREEK SMALL PI
unicodable6 jmerelo, U+0373 GREEK SMALL LETTER ARCHAIC SAMPI [Ll] (ͳ)
jmerelo, U+03C0 GREEK SMALL LETTER PI [Ll] (π)
jmerelo, 9 characters in total (ͳπϡᴦᴧᴨᴩᴪꭥ): gist.github.com/5db78fe901ce6be4b3...039ede8897
AlexDaniel jmerelo: I think it's this: github.com/perl6/whateverable/comm...65071efe3b
so if you add a test we can close the ticket
jmerelo AlexDaniel: OK
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AlexDaniel shareable6: 2f8dfb267f1753498e0368e89a6974e0fe9f0104 18:03
shareable6 AlexDaniel, whateverable.6lang.org/2f8dfb267f1...e0fe9f0104
jmerelo u: GREEK PI 18:07
unicodable6 jmerelo, U+0370 GREEK CAPITAL LETTER HETA [Lu] (Ͱ)
jmerelo, U+0372 GREEK CAPITAL LETTER ARCHAIC SAMPI [Lu] (Ͳ)
jmerelo, 165 characters in total: gist.github.com/baf2a46ebf285134e5...0b20230f24
jmerelo u: GREEK HETA
unicodable6 jmerelo, U+0370 GREEK CAPITAL LETTER HETA [Lu] (Ͱ)
jmerelo, U+0371 GREEK SMALL LETTER HETA [Ll] (ͱ)
jmerelo, 6 characters in total (ͰͱΘθϑϴ): gist.github.com/f7a8834c870bdb0cec...1f717b9104
jmerelo u: GREEK SMALL HETA
unicodable6 jmerelo, U+0371 GREEK SMALL LETTER HETA [Ll] (ͱ)
jmerelo, U+03B8 GREEK SMALL LETTER THETA [Ll] (θ)
jmerelo u: GREEK SMALL THETA
unicodable6 jmerelo, U+03B8 GREEK SMALL LETTER THETA [Ll] (θ)
jmerelo u: GREEK SMALL HETA
unicodable6 jmerelo, U+0371 GREEK SMALL LETTER HETA [Ll] (ͱ) 18:08
jmerelo, U+03B8 GREEK SMALL LETTER THETA [Ll] (θ)
jmerelo u: GREEK HETA
unicodable6 jmerelo, U+0370 GREEK CAPITAL LETTER HETA [Lu] (Ͱ)
jmerelo, U+0371 GREEK SMALL LETTER HETA [Ll] (ͱ)
jmerelo, 6 characters in total (ͰͱΘθϑϴ): gist.github.com/01edb0e619e616cc0d...0ecac0a434
jmerelo u: GREEK SMALL THETA
unicodable6 jmerelo, U+03B8 GREEK SMALL LETTER THETA [Ll] (θ)
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squashable6 🍕 AlexDaniel++ wrote a comment on “Something fishy with pre-2015.09 commits”: github.com/perl6/whateverable/issu...-394106136 18:13
Geth whateverable: JJ++ created pull request #325:
Adds test for ignoring trailing whitespace		 18:14
squashable6 🍕 JJ++ opened pull request “Adds test for ignoring trailing whitespace”: github.com/perl6/whateverable/pull/325
🍕 AlexDaniel++ labeled issue “Something fishy with pre-2015.09 commits”: github.com/perl6/whateverable/issues/74
Geth whateverable: dbaafbf7b3 | (JJ Merelo)++ | 2 files
Capitalized Unicode
 18:15
whateverable: 95e6c9e297 | (JJ Merelo)++ | t/unicodable.t
Adds test for trailing whitespace closes #125
squashable6 🍕 AlexDaniel++ merged pull request “Adds test for ignoring trailing whitespace”: github.com/perl6/whateverable/pull/325
Geth whateverable: 37d2f56ac9 | (Aleks-Daniel Jakimenko-Aleksejev)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | 2 files
Merge pull request #325 from JJ/master

Adds test for ignoring trailing whitespace
squashable6 🍕 AlexDaniel++ closed issue “Surprising behavior when…”: github.com/perl6/whateverable/issues/125
squashable6 🍕 MasterDuke17++ edited wiki page “Installation (for maintainers)”: github.com/perl6/whateverable/wiki...tainers%29 18:23
🍕 MasterDuke17++ edited wiki page “_Sidebar”: github.com/perl6/whateverable/wiki/_Sidebar 18:24
raschipi u: greek small theta 18:27
unicodable6 raschipi, U+03B8 GREEK SMALL LETTER THETA [Ll] (θ)
raschipi u: greek small theta
unicodable6 raschipi, U+03B8 GREEK SMALL LETTER THETA [Ll] (θ)
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squashable6 🍕 JJ++ wrote a comment on “Running bots without zstd leaves lock dirs behind”: github.com/perl6/whateverable/issu...-394107734 18:38
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AlexDaniel jmerelo: hmmm, what if you try to bump the timeout? 18:40
like:
$t.test(:30, ‘Search using the code block’,
oops
$t.test(:30timeout, ‘Search using the code block’,
jmerelo OK, maybe it's got nothing to do with that 18:41
I'll try. First thing tomorrow. I'm AFK now
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Geth whateverable: 9bcf0a3fd6 | (Aleks-Daniel Jakimenko-Aleksejev)++ | t/committable.t
Test wrapped lines in commit lists

Resolves #77.		 18:42
squashable6 🍕 AlexDaniel++ closed issue “Make committable output more readable”: github.com/perl6/whateverable/issues/77
buggable New CPAN upload: Net-LibIDN2-0.0.4.tar.gz by KAIEPI modules.perl6.org/dist/Net::LibIDN2:cpan:KAIEPI 18:43
squashable6 🍕 AlexDaniel++ wrote a comment on “Running bots without zstd leaves lock dirs behind”: github.com/perl6/whateverable/issu...-394108252 18:45
🍕 AlexDaniel++ wrote a comment on “Improve code in Unicodable”: github.com/perl6/whateverable/issu...-394108538 18:50
🍕 AlexDaniel++ labeled issue “Improve code in Unicodable”: github.com/perl6/whateverable/issues/78
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Geth whateverable: 2aee5e2a11 | (Aleks-Daniel Jakimenko-Aleksejev)++ | t/unicodable.t
Make sure unicodable doesn't create humongous gists

Resolves #79.		 19:01
squashable6 🍕 AlexDaniel++ closed issue “Unicodable is unable to …”: github.com/perl6/whateverable/issues/79
🍕 AlexDaniel++ wrote a comment on “Unicodable is unable to …”: github.com/perl6/whateverable/issu...-394109240
🍕 AlexDaniel++ wrote a comment on “Unicodable and Statisfiable are leaking memory”: github.com/perl6/whateverable/issu...-394109445 19:05
🍕 AlexDaniel++ closed issue “Unicodable and Statisfiable are leaking memory”: github.com/perl6/whateverable/issues/80
🍕 AlexDaniel++ wrote a comment on “Add tests for memory usage”: github.com/perl6/whateverable/issu...-394109478 19:06
🍕 AlexDaniel++ closed issue “Add tests for memory usage”: github.com/perl6/whateverable/issues/197
🍕 AlexDaniel++ labeled issue “What should happen with weird unicode newlines?”: github.com/perl6/whateverable/issues/115
🍕 AlexDaniel++ unlabeled issue “Bisectable should detect…”: github.com/perl6/whateverable/issues/114
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squashable6 🍕 AlexDaniel++ wrote a comment on “Bisectable should detect…”: github.com/perl6/whateverable/issu...-394109566 19:07
AlexDaniel bench: compare HEAD slurp().trans( Q<\> => [Q<\\>], ["\n"] => ['\n']) ||| slurp().subst(Q<\>, Q<\\>).subst("\n", '\n') 19:08
benchable6 AlexDaniel, starting to benchmark the 1 given commit
AlexDaniel, gist.github.com/443fd0ebed4554917b...a72206616d
AlexDaniel lol awesome
bench: compare HEAD slurp().trans( Q<\> => [Q<\\>], ["\n"] => ['\n']) ||| slurp().subst(Q<\>, Q<\\>).subst("\n", '\n') 19:09
benchable6 AlexDaniel, starting to benchmark the 1 given commit
AlexDaniel, gist.github.com/d47a49db62710179c1...ff67e19877
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AlexDaniel bench: compare HEAD slurp().trans( Q<\> => [Q<\\>], ["\n"] => ['\n']) ||| slurp().subst(Q<\>, Q<\\>).subst("\n", '\n') 19:09
benchable6 AlexDaniel, starting to benchmark the 1 given commit
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benchable6 AlexDaniel, gist.github.com/c955a59b54621f00bc...a2dbaab7d8 19:09
AlexDaniel MasterDuke: huh, hum… I guess there's some PERL6LIB issue? ↑ 19:10
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AlexDaniel it passes its tests though, I think 19:10
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AlexDaniel so perhaps systemd is restricting it a bit too much? 19:10
squashable6 🍕 AlexDaniel++ opened issue ““Could not find Bench””: github.com/perl6/whateverable/issues/326 19:11
🍕 AlexDaniel++ labeled issue ““Could not find Bench””: github.com/perl6/whateverable/issues/326
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El_Che news.perlfoundation.org/2018/06/tpc...22018.html 19:13
The Perl Conference Newsletter
USA-centric much?
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Geth whateverable: da226145c3 | (Aleks-Daniel Jakimenko-Aleksejev)++ | t/bisectable.t
Test that bisectable won't chdir

Resolves #90.		 19:29
squashable6 🍕 AlexDaniel++ closed issue “Something wrong with bisectable (let's chdir less)”: github.com/perl6/whateverable/issues/90
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squashable6 🍕 AlexDaniel++ closed issue “Add additional “What?” c…”: github.com/perl6/whateverable/issues/96 19:32
🍕 AlexDaniel++ wrote a comment on “Add additional “What?” c…”: github.com/perl6/whateverable/issu...-394111353
🍕 AlexDaniel++ wrote a comment on “Build any dangling branches”: github.com/perl6/whateverable/issu...-394111477 19:33
Geth whateverable: ba2579f64d | (Aleks-Daniel Jakimenko-Aleksejev)++ | t/unicodable.t
Make sure there's no preview for weird chars

Resolves #104.		 19:39
squashable6 🍕 AlexDaniel++ closed issue “Unicodable should print …”: github.com/perl6/whateverable/issues/104
🍕 AlexDaniel++ unlabeled issue “Delete /tmp/whateverable…”: github.com/perl6/whateverable/issues/144 19:40
🍕 AlexDaniel++ wrote a comment on “Delete /tmp/whateverable…”: github.com/perl6/whateverable/issu...-394112015 19:41
🍕 AlexDaniel++ wrote a comment on “Turn regressionable into an actual bot”: github.com/perl6/whateverable/issu...-394112198 19:44
🍕 MasterDuke17++ edited wiki page “Quotable”: github.com/perl6/whateverable/wiki/Quotable 19:46
Geth whateverable: af89312af8 | (Aleks-Daniel Jakimenko-Aleksejev)++ | bin/Regressionable.p6
Remove Regressionable

This was a non-bot, and it is abandoned. Feel free to restore it if there's a need. Resolves #123.
squashable6 🍕 AlexDaniel++ closed issue “Turn regressionable into an actual bot”: github.com/perl6/whateverable/issues/123
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squashable6 🍕 AlexDaniel++ unlabeled issue ““did you want benchable6 or committable6?””: github.com/perl6/whateverable/issues/128 19:52
🍕 AlexDaniel++ wrote a comment on ““did you want benchable6 or committable6?””: github.com/perl6/whateverable/issu...-394112794
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squashable6 🍕 AlexDaniel++ wrote a comment on “Make it understand / ‘.say’ $ / too”: github.com/perl6/whateverable/issu...-394112904 19:54
🍕 AlexDaniel++ closed issue “Make it understand / ‘.say’ $ / too”: github.com/perl6/whateverable/issues/130
🍕 AlexDaniel++ unlabeled issue ““too many open files””: github.com/perl6/whateverable/issues/136
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squashable6 🍕 AlexDaniel++ wrote a comment on “Report information about the bot itself”: github.com/perl6/whateverable/issu...-394113641 20:05
🍕 AlexDaniel++ labeled issue “Report information about the bot itself”: github.com/perl6/whateverable/issues/135
AlexDaniel squashable6: uptime 20:06
squashable6 AlexDaniel, No! It wasn't me! It was the one-armed man! Backtrace: gist.github.com/2f4d3141f8316a2019...d597a8c207
AlexDaniel awesome
MasterDuke: oh, I think I know
squashable6: uptime
squashable6 AlexDaniel, No! It wasn't me! It was the one-armed man! Backtrace: gist.github.com/dbfd84d24cc9204ced...e14e1be056
AlexDaniel gah… 20:07
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AlexDaniel squashable6: uptime 20:07
squashable6 AlexDaniel, 16 seconds, 346.597656MiB maxrss. This is Rakudo version 2018.04.1-118-g2f4b2f428 built on MoarVM version 2018.04.1-121-gd634d24cf implementing Perl 6.c.
AlexDaniel \o/
Geth doc: uzluisf++ created pull request #2090:
Fix some typos and wording
AlexDaniel MasterDuke: it is something precomp-related, and probably even more so given that bots are not really allowed to change precomp files
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AlexDaniel squashable6: status 20:08
squashable6 AlexDaniel, 🍕🍕 SQUASHathon is in progress! The end of the event in ≈15 hours. See github.com/rakudo/rakudo/wiki/Mont...Squash-Day
AlexDaniel, Log and stats: gist.github.com/68ddd23ae60a45d279...1418cdbf82
Geth doc: e34029ebd7 | (Luis F. Uceta)++ | doc/Language/numerics.pod6
Fix some typos and wording
 20:09
doc: 746819f29b | (Rafael Schipiura)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | doc/Language/numerics.pod6
Merge pull request #2090 from uzluisf/master

Fix some typos and wording
synopsebot Link: doc.perl6.org/language/numerics
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Geth whateverable: 53f83c0b57 | (Aleks-Daniel Jakimenko-Aleksejev)++ | 3 files
Commit some maintenance scripts

These files were on the server but for some reason never made its way to the git repo (they are used rarely). Some of these are a bit useful, so for now let's commit them.		 20:21
whateverable: 6c0bbef987 | bisectable++ | lib/Whateverable.pm6
Change `INIT now` to `$*INIT-INSTANT`

Whateverable.pm6 was getting precomped, so `INIT now` didn't make sense.
  AlexDaniel++		 20:22
whateverable: ea3b5855c7 | bisectable++ | .gitignore
Ignore vim's temp files
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Geth whateverable: 419f917156 | (Aleks-Daniel Jakimenko-Aleksejev)++ | bin/Shareable.p6
Fix url in shareable

If running on the server, config.json should have “self” entry which should be used instead.		 20:33
whateverable: 65843bc27e | (Aleks-Daniel Jakimenko-Aleksejev)++ | 2 files
Commit temporary workarounds for Shareable

Both changes are a workaround for rakudo/rakudo#1595. This commit should be reverted later.
synopsebot RAKUDO#1595 [open]: github.com/rakudo/rakudo/issues/1595 [weird] Some bug with a combination of $*KERNEL.hardware, slurp, run and Cro
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chakli Hi, How do i insert an element into an array? ex: insert c in <a b d> to <a b c d> 20:36
moritz m: my @a = <a b d>; @a.splice(1, 0, 'd'); say @a.perl 20:37
camelia ["a", "d", "b", "d"]
moritz m: my @a = <a b d>; @a.splice(1, 0, 'c'); say @a.perl
camelia ["a", "c", "b", "d"]
moritz m: my @a = <a b d>; @a.splice(2, 0, 'c'); say @a.perl
camelia ["a", "b", "c", "d"]
moritz chakli: ^^
docs.perl6.org/routine/splice 20:38
chakli oh god, kept searching inset in the docs could not find anything
Thanks 20:39
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squashable6 🍕 AlexDaniel++ edited issue “non-perl5 regexes and greppable”: github.com/perl6/whateverable/issues/150 20:43
🍕 AlexDaniel++ edited issue “non-perl5 regexes and greppable”: github.com/perl6/whateverable/issues/150 20:44
🍕 AlexDaniel++ wrote a comment on “Greppable and short output”: github.com/perl6/whateverable/issu...-394115873
🍕 AlexDaniel++ labeled issue “Greppable and short output”: github.com/perl6/whateverable/issues/151
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AlexDaniel m: say %ENV.comb.pick().join 20:46
camelia 5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>
Variable '%ENV' is not declared
at <tmp>:1
------> 3say 7⏏5%ENV.comb.pick().join
AlexDaniel m: say %*ENV.comb.pick().join
camelia s
AlexDaniel e: say %*ENV.comb.pick().join
evalable6 2
AlexDaniel e: say %*ENV.comb.pick().join
evalable6 d
AlexDaniel what's 2?
ah…
m: say %*ENV<ME>
camelia AlexDaniel
AlexDaniel e: say %*ENV<ME> 20:47
evalable6 (Any)
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squashable6 🍕 AlexDaniel++ wrote a comment on “Set ME env variable”: github.com/perl6/whateverable/issu...-394116048 20:47
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moritz e: say %*ENV.comb(/.**{0,5}2.**{0,5}/) 20:47
evalable6 moritz, No! It wasn't me! It was the one-armed man! Backtrace: gist.github.com/3c42d154b4d1679328...a7110bcc63
AlexDaniel wtf xD
e: say %*ENV.comb(/.**{0,5}2.**{0,5}/) 20:48
moritz: I have no way to explain this :D 20:49
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moritz e: say %*ENV.comb(/.**{0,5}2.**{0,5}/)[0] 20:52
evalable6 342a2
moritz looks like a commit hash
e: say %*ENV.comb(/.**{0,15}2.**{0,15}/)[0]
evalable6 342a2
AlexDaniel e: say %*ENV 20:53
evalable6 {HOME => /home/bisectable, INVOCATION_ID => ebaa84b146d342a28a64f5f68f28178c, JOURNAL_STRE…
AlexDaniel, Full output: gist.github.com/3ccc957ae77fdd0f08...d2ed62cd32
squashable6 🍕 AlexDaniel++ wrote a comment on ““Could not find Bench””: github.com/perl6/whateverable/issu...-394116427 20:54
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AlexDaniel moritz: my crazy theory about `zst is not installed` is that the server was out of memory (MasterDuke++ for testing things!) when it got to that line: github.com/perl6/whateverable/blob...e.pm6#L415 20:57
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AlexDaniel so it somehow failed 20:57
zstd*
squashable6 🍕 MasterDuke17++ wrote a comment on ““Could not find Bench””: github.com/perl6/whateverable/issu...-394116782 21:00
🍕 AlexDaniel++ wrote a comment on “Unicodable shouldn't rep…”: github.com/perl6/whateverable/issu...-394116785
moritz AlexDaniel: sounds somewhat sensible 21:06
Geth whateverable: bbe2ff4544 | (Aleks-Daniel Jakimenko-Aleksejev)++ | t/unicodable.t
Test preview when describing characters

Resolves #272.		 21:09
squashable6 🍕 AlexDaniel++ closed issue “Unicodable shouldn't rep…”: github.com/perl6/whateverable/issues/272
🍕 AlexDaniel++ labeled issue “The watchdog should work based on ping events”: github.com/perl6/whateverable/issues/276
🍕 AlexDaniel++ wrote a comment on “Add support for RT”: github.com/perl6/whateverable/issu...-394117494 21:13
🍕 AlexDaniel++ closed issue “Add support for RT”: github.com/perl6/whateverable/issues/226
🍕 AlexDaniel++ wrote a comment on ““Could not find Bench””: github.com/perl6/whateverable/issu...-394117571 21:14
🍕 AlexDaniel++ closed issue ““couldn't find Bench””: github.com/perl6/whateverable/issues/219
🍕 AlexDaniel++ wrote a comment on “Stop talking to NickServ”: github.com/perl6/whateverable/issu...-394117703 21:16
🍕 AlexDaniel++ closed issue “Stop talking to NickServ”: github.com/perl6/whateverable/issues/213
🍕 AlexDaniel++ wrote a comment on “Two department issues”: github.com/perl6/whateverable/issu...-394118055 21:22
🍕 AlexDaniel++ edited issue “Tests to ensure that we …”: github.com/perl6/whateverable/issues/223
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squashable6 🍕 AlexDaniel++ unlabeled issue “Signal names are displayed incorrectly”: github.com/perl6/whateverable/issues/220 21:23
🍕 AlexDaniel++ wrote a comment on “Signal names are displayed incorrectly”: github.com/perl6/whateverable/issu...-394118136
🍕 AlexDaniel++ labeled issue “Signal names are displayed incorrectly”: github.com/perl6/whateverable/issues/220
🍕 AlexDaniel++ edited issue “Stress testing for get-output sub”: github.com/perl6/whateverable/issues/172 21:25
🍕 AlexDaniel++ edited issue “Benchable and used modules”: github.com/perl6/whateverable/issues/154 21:26
🍕 AlexDaniel++ edited issue “Benchable and used modules”: github.com/perl6/whateverable/issues/154 21:27
AlexDaniel well, that's fun :)
but I have to get some sleep now, and tomorrow I'm away for a trip
o/ 🍕 21:28
El_Che AlexDaniel: wow
active-active :)
lots of pizza for ypu
have fun tomorrow!
AlexDaniel El_Che: speaking of fun, this is probably one of the coolest contributions from today: 21:29
e: gist.github.com/AlexDaniel/c30fb59...80df597449
evalable6 AlexDaniel, Using file “heh” as a main file, other files are placed in “sandbox/”
foo
bar
baz
AlexDaniel but maybe you've seen it already :)
camelia: gist.github.com/AlexDaniel/c30fb59...80df597449 21:30
m: gist.github.com/AlexDaniel/c30fb59...80df597449
camelia Failed to open file /home/camelia/sandbox/data: No such file or directory
in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1
AlexDaniel interesting, which file did it choose and why?
El_Che :)
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AlexDaniel I mean, I totally see which file was executed, but why? :) 21:31
ah: github.com/perl6/evalbot/blob/a9ed...ter.pm#L91 21:32
pure luck then :)
AlexDaniel &
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kkrev not sure where this goes: nopaste.linux-dev.org/?1181606 22:58
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MasterDuke kkrev: seems like it might be because of/related to github.com/rakudo/rakudo/pull/1820 23:13
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kkrev MasterDuke: I just wanted to play around. Figured I'd mention it here if anyone wants to let the right people know something's broken. This is standard Fedora. 23:16
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MasterDuke kkrev: how did you get your perl6? 23:19
kkrev MasterDuke: rakudobrew
MasterDuke kkrev: rakudobrew is mostly discouraged now, unless you really have a need to switch between multiple versions of rakudo 23:20
El_Che kkrev: rakudobrew is a bad match for regular users. Use rakudo-pkg (github.com/nxadm/rakudo-pkg) or rakudo star 23:21
(rakudo pkg has fedora repos)
(rakudo star compiles a released version locally)
kkrev OK thanks. I think you have five years of web inertia to fight on rakudobrew. I will try rakudo-pkg now. 23:22
El_Che kkrev: I launched rakudo-pkg because people where complaining about rakudobrew-for-regular-users on this channel :) 23:23
rouking exit 23:31
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mscha m: my $sh = SetHash.new; $sh{1} = True; $sh{2} //= True; say $sh; # huh? 23:35
camelia SetHash(1)
mscha m: my $sh = SetHash.new; $sh{1} = True; $sh{2} //= True; $sh{3} ||= True; say $sh; # huh? 23:36
camelia SetHash(1 3)
kkrev switched to rakudo-pkg. Another FYI I guess: nopaste.linux-dev.org/?1181607
jnthn m: my $sh = SetHash.new; dd $sh{2}
yoleaux 15:32Z <nine> jnthn: So if I'd want to use the multi dispatch machinery to pick between a multi candidate that takes named args and one that doesn't, my best chance is to give the proto a different find_best_dispatchee method. Right?
camelia Bool::False
yoleaux 16:54Z <nine> jnthn: unless you tell me that this is a really bad idea, I'm going to merge it somewhat soon into Inline::Perl5's master: github.com/niner/Inline-Perl5/comm...49b82405a8
mscha Never mind. $sh{2} = False is defined 23:37
jnthn mscha: SetHash entries produce False by default
Right :)
kkrev I definitely have libffi installed.
MasterDuke jnthn: while you're thinking about SetHashes, any thoughts on github.com/rakudo/rakudo/pull/1847 ? 23:38
kkrev: ignoring the libffi part (and this is definitely going outside things i know about for sure), but i think linenoise is known to be problematic and readline is recommended if possible 23:40
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kkrev MasterDuke: nopaste.linux-dev.org/?1181608 23:43
readline-devel is installed
El_Che kkrev: yes, I forked until DrForr has time to fix it
github.com/nxadm/perl6-readline 23:44
jnthn .tell nine Well, it comes with the same caveats of using any nqp:: ops outside of core, which is that while they're often de facto stable, there's no promises made about them. There's a non-zero chance that the current multi cache mechanism will eventually be subsumed by my work on spesh plugins.
yoleaux jnthn: I'll pass your message to nine.
El_Che kkrev: zef install github.com/nxadm/perl6-readline.git
1 line patch
I opened a ticket for the linenoise and readline perl modules that are broken on some distros 23:45
kkrev OK, thanks, your readline works fine. 23:46
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El_Che yeah, the fix works on modern distros with readline 7 23:47
but not on distros with older readlines, hence no PR
it has to do with a wider versioning challenge about versioning of libs and nativecall 23:48
jnthn .tell nine So, effectively, you can commit it, but those ops might at some point go away, so there'd be some updating to do at that point. So long as you're good with that, I'm also ok. 23:49
yoleaux jnthn: I'll pass your message to nine.
El_Che and since jnthn is taking requests this evening ---^
:)
jnthn MasterDuke: Hm, does that introduce a potentially awkward discontinuity between assigning one set and two sets into a SetHash, where in the first case it flattens away, and in second not? 23:55
m: say Set ~~ Iterable
camelia False
jnthn We generally consider sets as items
El_Che: I'm pretty sure we've people in the community who know better than me on handling native library versioning issues and such. :) 23:57
El_Che: I already designed one bit of module/versioning infrastructure and haven't heard the end of "oh no sha1s!!!" ever since. :P
MasterDuke jnthn: ah. think the problem should be solved at the meta-op level?
jnthn MasterDuke: Potentially, yes 23:58
El_Che jnthn: lol
jnthn: full disclosure, I am a sha1 winer :)
jnthn MasterDuke: I'm pretty sure I agree with the result you're aiming at on assignment meta-ops with SetHash and friends. 23:59
MasterDuke: I'm just worried about the STORE(Set) way of achieving it, and that probably does mean it wants a META_OP_ASSIGN candidate dedicated to it

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