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timotimo i wonder if the loads and loads of repeated "requested for settings *" lines hint at something that could perhaps be deduplicated somehow, or if that's just informational and has barely an impact on performance 00:28
also, it'd be kind of cool if we could hack Log::Timeline compatible output into some internal things 00:30
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Xliff I was wondering about those. 00:37
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synopsebot Link: doc.perl6.org/language/regexes
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chloekek In a regex how can you skip until the first occurrence of the string ']:', and then check if it is followed by ' <'? The regex / ^ .*? ']:' ' <' / skips until the first occurrence of ']: <', even if that comes after the first occurrence of ']:'. 08:00
I tried putting the non-backtracking : in various places to no avail.
Example string that should match: "[foo]: <", but not: "[foo]: [bar]: <".
I think : doesn't work if you have a nongreedy .*? before it. 08:02
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masak m: say ?/^ [<!before "]:"> .]* "]: <" / for "[foo]: <", "[foo]: [bar]: <" 08:35
camelia True
False		 08:36
masak chloekek: ^
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masak could probably make that `*` ratcheting, too 08:37
m: say ?/^ [<!before "]:"> .]*: "]: <" / for "[foo]: <", "[foo]: [bar]: <"
camelia True
False
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masak also, here's a non-regex solution: 08:39
m: say .substr(.index("]:")).starts-with("]: <")
camelia No such method 'index' for invocant of type 'Any'
in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1
masak m: say .substr(.index("]:")).starts-with("]: <") for "[foo]: <", "[foo]: [bar]: <"
camelia True
False
masak but, hm, it's probably not robus to not finding the "]:"
antoniogamiz any idea what this erros means? => Perl6::Documentable::DocPage is not composable, so Perl6::Documentable::DocPage::Source::Perl6::Documentable::DocPage::Source::Type cannot compose it
I'm trying to declare a new module with => unit module Perl6::Documentable::DocPage::Source 08:40
chloekek masak: ah, lookahead, thanks I'll give that a try!
masak m: say .substr(.index("]:") // .chars).starts-with("]: <") for "[foo]: <", "[foo]: [bar]: <", "foobar"
camelia True
False
False
chloekek p6: say ?/^ [<!before ']: '> .]*: ']: ' '<' / for "[foo]: <", "[foo]: [bar]: <" 08:42
camelia True
False
chloekek p6: say ?/^ [<!before ']: '> .]* ']: ' '<' / for "[foo]: <", "[foo]: [bar]: <"
camelia True
False
chloekek p6: say ?/^ [. <!before ']: '>]* ']: ' '<' / for "[foo]: <", "[foo]: [bar]: <" 08:43
camelia False
False
chloekek p6: say ?/^ [. <!before ']: '>]*: ']: ' '<' / for "[foo]: <", "[foo]: [bar]: <"
camelia False
False
chloekek Very exciting stuff. 08:44
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lizmat weekly: rage.powered.ninja/2019/07/21/unif...rsing.html 08:48
notable6 lizmat, Noted!
lizmat weekly: www.braincells.com/perl/2019/07/pe...ek_17.html 08:49
notable6 lizmat, Noted!
lizmat weekly: yakshavingcream.blogspot.com/2019/...oh-my.html 08:50
notable6 lizmat, Noted!
cygx chloekek: you could also use :::, but that's still not implemented in rakudo 08:52
perl5 nowadays has it as (*COMMIT)
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cygx ie your original approach written as / ^ .*? ']:' ::: ' <' / should work by design 08:54
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chloekek Interesting. 09:03
Can't wait.
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lizmat weekly: perl6.eu/ackerman-url.html 09:05
notable6 lizmat, Noted!
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Xliff . 09:49
\o
antoniogamiz o/ 09:51
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antoniogamiz mmm I'm tryinh to understand why spurt gives an error saying Failed to open file if what i want is to write one x'd 10:09
lizmat antoniogamiz: code? 10:12
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antoniogamiz I cannot pass a reduced example... D: 10:13
Xliff Can you send a non-reduced example? :)
Xliff tries to figure out the destructive potential of one gram of antimatter and comes out with 43 kT 10:14
antoniogamiz I will do that then!
Xliff This is what I get for thinking about sci-fi.
antoniogamiz gist.github.com/antoniogamiz/9d8cb...903b56b010 10:16
it's kind of messy, sorry for that D:
chloekek You're writing to the root directory, /, for which you have no permission. 10:17
antoniogamiz it executes everything correctly until the line that writes the file
lol
chloekek Absolute path on line 15 in CLI.pm6.
antoniogamiz you're right, what a fail x'd
AlexDaniel` chloekek : re minecraft stuff, is there a video? Sounds like a nice material for the weekly 10:18
antoniogamiz minecraft stuff? :OO 10:19
chloekek AlexDaniel`: just got a crappy experiment working, I'll clean it up today, maybe I can make a video: github.com/chloekek/andesite/blob/...te/CLI.pm6
Speaking of which I wish there was a way for Path.copy to not preserve the permission bits. 10:20
Xliff chloekek: Why the use of the $prefix regex in another regex? 10:21
chloekek I want to use it in multiple regexes later.
Xliff Ah! 10:22
chloekek In particular when people join I want to send MOTD to them.
Xliff Nifty. 10:23
I didn't know something like that would work.
chloekek I think I'll make a grammar for server stdout lines though, instead of a series of regex checks.
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Xliff I would have written it: "my regex { .*? ‘]: ’ }; … if m/^ <prefix> ‘<’ …/" 10:24
chloekek Oh cool I didn't know you could do that.
Xliff LOL!
See! We've tought each other different ways to do the same thing. :) 10:25
chloekek Tim would be proud.
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AlexDaniel chloekek: interesting code style 12:36
chloekek: I don't often see people using unicode quotes and binding by default
greppable6: “ 12:37
greppable6 AlexDaniel, 2417 lines, 63 modules: gist.github.com/ab1e8bb0e1493a4be5...4f2cc8ab51 12:38
chloekek I love the uniquotes. I use := because immutability. 12:39
AlexDaniel greppable6: =.*“ 12:40
greppable6 AlexDaniel, 225 lines, 14 modules: gist.github.com/f3e38200ec79b256f7...2baa9977fe
AlexDaniel orgsleep, Blin, sake, whateverable 12:41
looks familiar :)
chloekek: any downsides of using := ? 12:42
lizmat AlexDaniel: immutability, potential action at a distance 12:43
Xliff It's a leg up when you are ready to move to nqp...
lizmat: s/potential/spooky/ ?
AlexDaniel m: $j = ‘foo’; my @server-cmd := «java -Xmx2G -Xms2G -jar “$foo” nogui»; say @server-cmd
camelia 5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>
Variable '$j' is not declared
at <tmp>:1
------> 3<BOL>7⏏5$j = ‘foo’; my @server-cmd := «java -Xmx
chloekek For $ variables I haven't found any unless binding to a container instead of a normal value. For @/% variables you must be more careful.
AlexDaniel m: $foo = ‘foo’; my @server-cmd := «java -Xmx2G -Xms2G -jar “$foo” nogui»; say @server-cmd
camelia 5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>
Variable '$foo' is not declared
at <tmp>:1
------> 3<BOL>7⏏5$foo = ‘foo’; my @server-cmd := «java -X
AlexDaniel m: my $foo = ‘foo’; my @server-cmd := «java -Xmx2G -Xms2G -jar “$foo” nogui»; say @server-cmd
camelia (java -Xmx2G -Xms2G -jar foo nogui)
AlexDaniel third try… :) 12:44
m: my $foo = ‘foo’; my \server-cmd = «java -Xmx2G -Xms2G -jar “$foo” nogui»; say server-cmd
camelia (java -Xmx2G -Xms2G -jar foo nogui)
AlexDaniel m: my $foo = ‘foo’; my \server-cmd = «java -Xmx2G -Xms2G -jar “$foo” nogui»; .say for server-cmd
camelia java
-Xmx2G
-Xms2G
-jar
foo
nogui
lizmat m: my $a = 42; my $b := $a; $b = 666; say $a
camelia 666
AlexDaniel lizmat: oh, that
chloekek p6: say "do you like bold text"
camelia do you like bold text
lizmat ^ Xliff action at a distance
Xliff lizmat: I know that…
AlexDaniel what about sigilless vars?
Xliff I was trying to make a joke. 12:45
chloekek Also := makes it work differently with for.
p6: my $xs = [1, 2, 3]; my $ys := [1, 2, 3]; .say for $xs; .say for $ys;
Xliff Einstein called quantum mechanics "spooky action at a distance"...
camelia [1 2 3]
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chloekek p6: my $xs = [1, 2, 3]; my $ys := $xs; .say for $xs; .say for $ys; 12:46
camelia [1 2 3]
[1 2 3]
AlexDaniel I'm just thinking… I don't think I ever used binding or sigilless vars in any real code…
chloekek Unless it's still a scalar container, of course.
Xliff Also... aside from nqp, does [ my $a := "text" ] gain you anything?
AlexDaniel maybe I should?
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Xliff AlexDaniel: I've just started using \vars in parameters. 12:47
Saves me some typing.
AlexDaniel it makes things look a bit weird without sigils 12:48
chloekek Coming from a Haskell background I'm used to noticing the difference between normal variables and IORefs, which is similar to non-Scalar and Scalar values in Perl 6, except in Haskell you must dereference explicitly.
jnthn I use := for arrays/hashes in performance-sensitive code where I want to avoid the copying. OTOH, I went on a 30-minute bug hunt last week because that happened somewhere that the copying *was* important.
Xliff R#3075 12:50
synopsebot R#3075 [open]: github.com/rakudo/rakudo/issues/3075 Conflicting use statement does not produce an error, but fails dynamic compilation.
Xliff ^^ Anyone want to take a gander at this while I'm still awake?
It's a doosy.
AlexDaniel jnthn: wouldn't it make sense to only copy when there's an attempt to change the original array? 12:51
Xliff jnthn: I'll have to remember that optimization tip. 12:52
AlexDaniel that could make things weird because suddenly changing an array can become slow, but…
given that most people don't use binding, it could save some cycles all over the place, right?
chloekek My understanding: glot.io/snippets/febjrur037 12:53
jnthn AlexDaniel: Various copy-on-write schemes might be possible, but they're typically harder to get right than it first looks. 12:59
AlexDaniel: (Will we introduce leaks? Will we need locks to make it threadsafe? etc.) 13:00
AlexDaniel right, cow is what I was thinking about :)
jnthn So, "maybe", but it may not be easy :)
chloekek I also like to use Unicode infix operators and I would like to start using the CJK brackets but I have to look up how to make custom digraphs in VS Code Vim plugin. 13:01
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chloekek I want to use the CJK brackets for English natural language messages because then I don't have to worry about nested quotes. 13:02
AlexDaniel chloekek: by CJK brackets you mean ｢｣ specifically or other brackets?
chloekek: which OS do you use? 13:03
ah, VS
ok then I guess windows?
chloekek: what about docs.perl6.org/language/unicode_en...WinCompose ? 13:04
chloekek I'm using NixOS GNU/Linux with VS Code as editor.
Yeah the corner brackets. 13:05
AlexDaniel chloekek: thing is, being able to write certain characters in just one editor is generally kinda limiting
chloekek Apparently they're more like CJ brackets.
AlexDaniel so I'd recommend system-wide solutions
chloekek Ah yeah, that'd be nice. 13:06
AlexDaniel compose key is one of the easiest ones, and existing configs let you type all kinds of other characters intuitively
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AlexDaniel I use a custom keyboard layout, but I don't really recommend it to others :) That being said, nixos.wiki/wiki/Keyboard_Layout_Customization (Advanced section) 13:07
chloekek Or remap some of those useless numpad keys to insert such symbols. :)
AlexDaniel I do some crazy stuff with my layout. In my case, spacebar is AltGr, so all other symbols are on regular letter keys on 3rd and 4th layers 13:08
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AlexDaniel (and if anyone wonders where my space is, it's on 無変換) 13:09
chloekek I've never used compose key before, I'll check it out with setxkbmap. 13:12
AlexDaniel chloekek: you just need to pass one of these options to map it to one of the keys: gist.github.com/AlexDaniel/bb5963b...992128dd7f 13:15
chloekek: and then most layouts already have some compose sequences predefined, I think
not the ones you'd need for perl 6, but it'll get you started :)
Xliff I don't know how I lived without the compose key.
AlexDaniel and then later you can get this: github.com/kragen/xcompose/blob/ma...otXCompose 13:16
Xliff Maybe it's because I wasn't programming in Perl6 then and I could continue living in ASCII land.
AlexDaniel which is a reasonable config, although I'm not 100% happy with it
Xliff What is a good monospace font for windows with unicode support? 13:17
AlexDaniel Xliff: right? Kinda weird that we have “windows key” and other crap but not a dedicated compose key 13:18
Xliff: but then once you start properly fixing the physical layout it doesn't look like a traditional keyboard anymore x) 13:19
Xliff We're at the point where our keyboard glyphs can change as we type. 13:20
We have that tech right now!
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chloekek Cool, I can now type ｢｣ with alt+[[ and alt+]] thanks AlexDaniel 13:33
p6: say ｢hi｣
camelia hi
AlexDaniel that was quick 13:34
chloekek Ten minutes of X configuration further and my hope for the Year of the Linux Desktop has once again sunken by a few miles. 13:35
Had to edit ~/.XCompose, change the input method and reboot.
AlexDaniel you have to reboot though :'( 13:36
or at least restart the X server, which is pretty much the same…
I wish there was a way to reconfigure it live
or maybe just logging out and back in is enough?
chloekek Apparently some programs support reloading it. 13:37
AlexDaniel still not very convenient :S
hmm
chloekek It's up to a program to load .XCompose, and GTK calls the configured input method to do this.
Oh, also had to add -option compose:ralt to my setxkbmap command. 13:38
Xliff Close, but still not quite there yet. 13:44
Compose key is still considered a thing for "power" users, so the command line isn't something to fear.
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AlexDaniel chloekek: the user experience is not too bad for that one, actually. IIRC on most systems there's a graphical way to add xkb options from a dropdown, so enabling the compose key is not that difficult 13:47
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AlexDaniel chloekek: and some basic sequences should be there by default 13:48
why distros come with shitty default xcompose files? That I don't know. But something is better than nothing :)
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AlexDaniel for example Compose . . should give … 13:50
huf better question, why cant you query the compose db that's already loaded?
AlexDaniel <Multi_key> <p> <o> <o> : "💩" U1F4A9 # PILE OF POO 13:51
oh, they even have that by default!
huf because afaik you cant. you cant make it tell you what it knows and where it got it from
chloekek p6: say ｢｢hello world｣｣ 13:53
camelia ｢hello world｣
chloekek p6: say ‘‘hello world’’ 13:54
camelia ‘hello world’
chloekek p6: my $x := 1; say ｢hello $x world｣
camelia hello $x world
AlexDaniel huf: I know you can dump your xkb stuff with `xkbcomp $DISPLAY -a xkb.dump` but that doesn't include compose sequences :S 13:56
chloekek p6: my $x := 1; say qq｢hello $x world｣ 13:57
camelia hello 1 world
chloekek p6: my $x := 1; say qq'hello $x world'
camelia 5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>
Two terms in a row
at <tmp>:1
------> 3my $x := 1; say qq'hello $x7⏏5 world'
expecting any of:
infix
infix stopper
postfix
statement end
…
AlexDaniel chloekek: oooooh… I have to mention this: docs.perl6.org/language/unicode_en...l_programs
the description is a bit wrong, it has nothing to do with ibus 13:58
but the `input_module=xim` is right
I mean, that whole code snippet
chloekek: maybe next year :) 13:59
chloekek I only ever use GTK applications but I'll add those in case I use a Qt app some day.
AlexDaniel chloekek: IIRC without this it didn't work in firefox 14:00
chloekek (Not as a matter of principle, I happen to only use a few GUIs and they use GTK.)
Work for me in Firefox with the GTK line only.
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AlexDaniel interesting 14:01
chloekek: Qt app recommendation: speedcrunch :)
probably the only qt thing that I use, just because it's that good 14:03
AlexDaniel goes for a nap 14:04
o/
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lizmat and another Perl 6 Weekly hits the Net: p6weekly.wordpress.com/2019/07/22/...-released/ 15:00
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kawaii lizmat++ 15:10
daxim mom, I'm on t̶e̶l̶e̶v̶i̶s̶i̶o̶n̶ weekly blog! 15:11
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atweiden-air Makefile generation is failing on MoarVM 2019.07 release, anyone encounter this? 15:32
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daxim build status green everywhere: build.opensuse.org/package/show/de...rl6/moarvm 15:36
tadzik \o/ 15:37
atweiden-air looks like the suse devs patched Configure.pl 15:45
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camelia ((Real) (Numeric))
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jmerelo daxim: great! 16:45
BTW, anyone works here with Windows? There are a bunch of perl6/doc issues that need to be worked out in that platform. Some of them are very easy... 16:46
I know you're there. I can hear you tapping your table while you wait for the 2345 updates to be installed. :-) 16:51
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masak wants to join cygx's webring 16:56
timotimo masak: instructions are on the webring home site, you'd put an issue up on the 6ring github in case you didn't see them yet 16:57
masak yes, I'm reading them now :) 16:58
I'm confused, because the link to the IRC chatroom just takes me to some crappy web IRC client
I have an IRC client already, and would just like to know what the chatroom is called
timotimo right. you yourself can just /j #perl6-webring
masak good, thanks
timotimo but i agree 16:59
masak to be clear, that name is not evident from the link
I even hovered over it and read it on the status bar, like a barbarian
timotimo aye
masarbarian
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jmerelo So, no Windows user around? 17:04
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masak maybe none that weren't terribly insulted by that updates joke :P 17:11
jmerelo masak: I was kind of trying to see if anyone was reacting to that to shangai them into solving an issue :-) 17:12
masak "recruiting by trolling", clever 17:13
jmerelo masak: well, it didn't work, so... -ish. 17:14
Xliff jmerelo: This Windows luser didn't bite.
Oh... w8....
jmerelo Xliff: :-) 17:15
Assignments coming...
Xliff hides.
Geth ¦ doc: JJ assigned to Xliff Issue How to use AutoHotKey (unicode_entry) github.com/perl6/doc/issues/1532
Xliff Seriously?
Ok ok
jmerelo C'mon, that's kinda easy. Pleeeez 17:16
Xliff Will try to work on it tonight.
What do you want to illustrate, though.
If you could, please add that to the issue. (you mention you had tests...)
jmerelo Xliff: basically use this, click there or edit that file or whatever. OK, will add. 17:17
Xliff Thanks.
patrickb jmerelo: Has the second docs GSoC student gone AWOL? 17:18
jmerelo patrickb: we ddon't rank them, but I guess you don't mean antoniogamiz, who's around here now 17:19
antoniogamiz o/ 17:20
patrickb \o
jmerelo patrickb: short answer: no, he's working here: github.com/noisegul/perl6-p6doc we have had some communication problems, which we are kinda straightening out right now.
antoniogamiz sorry to let you think I was missing
patrickb antoniogamiz: I didn't. \o/
antoniogamiz good then :D 17:21
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patrickb jmerelo: It's just that I didn't hear or read anything about that project. But I'm not active in all communication channels there are. 17:22
But great to hear there is progress! 17:23
jmerelo patrickb: yep, that's one of the communication problems. It wasn't too clear that he needed to blog and post in social media. It's clear now.
patrickb Scrolling over the commit history of that repo is impressing! Wow. 17:24
jmerelo patrickb: and that's even before you look at the branch where all the work is being done now: github.com/noisegul/perl6-p6doc/commits/next 17:25
patrickb noisegul++ 17:26
patrickb reboots 17:27
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jmerelo clickbaits Madeleine's "Flags and syscalls and modules" yakshavingcream.blogspot.com/2019/...h-my.html, great reading on the new Rakudo functionality! 17:30
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noisegul patrickb: sorry to give off the impression of being dormant 17:35
jmerelo noisegul: no big deal. But communication about the project is very important. 17:38
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patrickb noisegul: All good. I was just wondering. You seem to be very active actually! 17:38
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wildtrees is it possible to send smtp.gmail.com emails using Net::SMTP in perl6? I am trying it and it doesnt seem to be working :( 18:29
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sena_kun wildtrees, sounds like a bug report for this repository... 18:32
wildtrees you tried it, sena_kun ? how would I know if I what I am doing is right or wrong, or whats an easy way to send emails in perl6 then? 18:33
Elronnd wildtrees: afaik, gmail often regects attempts to authenticate through smtp/imap, and forces you to go through openid or something 18:34
not openid. Oauth
wildtrees oh, is that complicated? is there something simpler? I am not married to using gmail, whats the easiest way to do this? I dont have my own mail server 18:35
sena_kun have you seen www.reddit.com/r/perl6/comments/9s...g_an_smtp/ ? 18:37
wildtrees sena_kun, yes I have :( 18:38
sena_kun :S
Elronnd ;-;
maybe try microsoft or amazon's hosted email offerings? 18:39
Cost $$$. I think 5/month
amazon's is closer to 4 actually
or could try hotmail. Free, but less sexy than gmail
wildtrees hotmail offer smtp? 18:40
offers
Elronnd google says yeah
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masak hm. "doesn't change at runtime" is actually a pretty good definition of "static" 19:12
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El_Che so, are the Europeans here resdy for some temperatures like jmerelo's hometown? 20:13
noisegul I'm really not ready for the heat 20:14
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sjn tries out 2019.07 20:24
El_Che we had luckiky booked an appartment at the coast, so rpobably 4 or 5 degress less. Great coincidense, beczuse we dont' 20:25
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El_Che have AC at work 20:25
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AlexDaniel El_Che: here it's still cold, so bring it on 21:07
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El_Che hehe, just wait 21:08
AlexDaniel if the heat gets to us we'll hopefully have a few days of summer :) 21:09
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El_Che Yeah, the real North ;) 21:10
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discord6 <Tyler (Aearnus)> you all have it lucky, hehe. My car hit 122°f today in Arizona 21:31
noisegul wew 21:32
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El_Che Tyler: we would 't expect nothing less in Arizona ;) 22:38
discord6 <Tyler (Aearnus)> unfortunately true 22:46
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atweiden-air i'm building rakudo-2019.07 with `Configure.pl --libdir=/usr/lib` 23:01
there's been a regression between 2019.03 and 2019.07: `Unhandled exception: While looking for '/usr/share/perl6/runtime/perl6.moarvm': no such file or directory`
perl6.moarvm is under /usr/lib/perl6/runtime, not /usr/share
timotimo it's already fixed! 23:04
atweiden-air timotimo: do you have a soln besides ln -rs /usr/lib/perl6 /usr/share/perl6 ?:) 23:06
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atweiden-air ah ic. 2019.07.01 23:07
atweiden-air wonders if MoarVM can include the patch from opensuse 23:08
build.opensuse.org/package/view_fi...h?expand=1
timotimo is there an explanation why that patch is needed and what it fixes? 23:10
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atweiden-air timotimo: MoarVM Makefile gen is broken without that patch 23:18
MoarVM 2019.07 will not build without it 23:19
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atweiden-air goes into config panic 23:19
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timotimo huh 23:21
that's super weird
under what circumstances is it broken? 23:23
atweiden-air doesn't build on void 23:25
haven't tested elsewhere
presumably it doesn't build on suse without it either
i assume it's because of shared libs 23:26
timotimo i could imagine void linux not supporting shared libs, but suse?
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atweiden-air estoy un poco cansado, otherwise i'd test it on arch, where i'm sure it'd fail for similar reasons, whatever those reasons may be... :) 23:28
timotimo it should be easy to pull that patch in
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timotimo just ping samcv, maybe over in #moarvm 23:28
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