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AlexDaniel timotimo: there's also an impressive gist a bit earlier by evalable6 00:08
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timotimo loooooooooong 00:20
AlexDaniel just 2 MB
Geth whateverable: 98bb939437 | (Aleks-Daniel Jakimenko-Aleksejev)++ | xbin/Tellable.p6
Improve behavior for nicknames with too many symbols
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timotimo AlexDaniel: want to come up with technology™ that lets a bot exec into a newer version and keep the irc connection up? 00:33
Xliff o/ 00:34
AlexDaniel timotimo: IRC bouncer?
Xliff timotimo: How would that work, since you can't reload modules?
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Xliff AlexDaniel: Would it be a bouncer if it's reusing the same connection? 00:35
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AlexDaniel greppable6: uptime 00:36
greppable6 AlexDaniel, 2 weeks, 4 days, 12 hours, 36 minutes, and 7 seconds, 652.160156MiB maxrss. This is Rakudo version 2019.07.1-94-gd1f9d2848 built on MoarVM version 2019.07.1-50-gb614a7b4d implementing Perl 6.d.
AlexDaniel timotimo: and that technology should use rakudo from 2020 or something like that
m: say 652 × 18
camelia 11736
AlexDaniel at least that fits into 16G available 00:37
wasn't always the case
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timotimo i'd just say the earlier instance will just forward TCP to anything that connects, maybe? 00:38
hm, though it'll have to figure out that there's no preamble from the server and all thet
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Xliff If initialized with a live connection, skip the whole connect part. 00:39
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Xliff There should be a way for the bot to exit out of its main loop so that the earlier version can be GCd. 00:39
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AlexDaniel Xliff: I'm more interested in having it GC stuff while the bot is running… 00:40
Xliff AlexDaniel: lol 00:41
You mean it doesn't?
AlexDaniel shareable6: uptime
shareable6 AlexDaniel, 2 weeks, 4 days, 12 hours, 41 minutes, and 31 seconds, 527.554688MiB maxrss. This is Rakudo version 2019.07.1-94-gd1f9d2848 built on MoarVM version 2019.07.1-50-gb614a7b4d implementing Perl 6.d.
AlexDaniel it does, but it's not going a good job
doing*
Xliff Ah.
Pheh! 527megs? timotimo writes code that will eat that like chicklets. 00:42
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Xliff :D 00:42
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Xliff ☺ 00:45
☠
hahaha
❣ 00:48
Hexchat still doesn't have them all.
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timotimo AlexDaniel: you know, "use Telemetry" lets you "snap heap => 'filename-prefix'" 00:52
discord6 <Aearnus> I used to use hexchat, until I got tired of the fact that it does the opposite of handling charsets correctly
AlexDaniel timotimo: sure, one day I'll try that :) 00:53
Xliff Aearnus: What are you using, now? Please don't say mIRC!
timotimo i mean, you can send the resulting file to me so i can have a look at what's going wrong
mIRC was so awesome when i was a kid
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timotimo NoNameScript and all that 00:55
discord6 <Aearnus> Xliff: discord and the freenode webchat. haha
<Aearnus> I want to set up an rpi as a bouncer though
timotimo we used to have irc.p6c.org
discord6 <Aearnus> awh, that'd be nice 00:56
<Aearnus> there are only like 3 irc channels i frequent anyway so ahah
Xliff Yeah. I'll stick with HexChat. It's close to what I was using when I was an OS/2 weenie.
Although WeeChat looks nice. No windows version, though. 00:57
discord6 <Aearnus> it's a sad state of affairs that there really aren't any good IRC clients
Xliff I might run it when I dual boot to Linux. timotimo should share his kool skripts.
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discord6 <Aearnus> bring back xmpp! 00:57
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Xliff Aearnus: IRC is dead -- ☠ (heard in various internet sites since 1999) 00:58
discord6 <Aearnus> hah. yuck.
<Aearnus> unironically though, a matrix room would be nice to have 00:59
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discord6 <Aearnus> matrix is a really pleasant experience -- much moreso than IRC (but maybe not as good as discord) 00:59
AlexDaniel` said somebody from discord 01:00
Xliff I sense some bias, thar
AlexDaniel` there's a matrix community, and you can talk on IRC through matrix 01:01
not the most pleasant experience sometimes, but it works
discord6 <Aearnus> oh yeah -- i forgot that matrix works as an irc client!
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discord6 <Aearnus> brb downloading riot 01:01
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aearnus[m] o/ from matrix 01:05
AlexDaniel` hello :) 01:06
Xliff Ohai!
Xliff looks for a suitable XMPP lib to nativecall.
AlexDaniel` I wonder if stickers work 01:07
hm, not really. Whatever :) 01:08
lol! 01:09
can't see it on IRC obviously 😈
aearnus[m] yeah, that seems iffy ahah. do image attachments work? 01:10
aearnus[m] uploaded an image: image.png (91KB) < matrix.org/_matrix/media/v1/downlo...GoJdLmEDaJ >
aha! they do! that's beyond convienent
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AlexDaniel` stickers should behave similarly… 01:11
timotimo AlexDaniel`: what's the issue with snap :heap? 01:12
Xliff How how the hell do I sign on using Riot?
aearnus[m] Xliff: once you have a matrix account, press the + button by "rooms"
aearnus[m] uploaded an image: image.png (17KB) < matrix.org/_matrix/media/v1/downlo...BoINdpjrsD >
it's definitely not intuitive 01:13
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AlexDaniel timotimo: somebody needs to do it :) 01:13
AlexDaniel` xliff: hello :) 01:14
Xliff Got it. The channel name mangling they do is really not intuitive.
Now I need theming support. I'm allergic to bright backgrounds. :P
aearnus[m] makes a lot of sense but not on first glance
AlexDaniel` there's a dark mode in the settings
xliff[m] OK. Someone show me what makes this better than IRC... 01:15
Oh. LOL
AlexDaniel` haha
(for those on IRC, I ♥-ed his messaged)
* (for those on IRC, I ♥-ed his message) 01:16
aearnus[m] haha. edits come through IRC as if you corrected the message using `*` 01:17
this is really cute!
Elronnd are y'all using matrix or something?
AlexDaniel` a bit noisy
xliff[m] Ah. Now I have profile pic... but no dark
aearnus[m] Elronnd: yeah, we're all giving it a try
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Elronnd ;< 01:17
I think I looked at it at some point and came to the conclusion that it was the wrong thing
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Elronnd don't remember why, though 01:17
Xliff Elronnd: I'm still on hexchat for a reason. 01:18
AlexDaniel` Xliff: now install it on your phone, and boom, you can follow discussions here if you're not at home and stuff
aearnus[m] uploaded an image: image.png (64KB) < matrix.org/_matrix/media/v1/downlo...SuvUWxUUzF >
xliff: dark theme!
xliff[m] Hahahaha!
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xliff[m] Oh blessed god of non-brightness, thank you! 01:19
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xliff[m] I completely missed that the ∞ times I looked through it. 01:20
aearnus[m] m: (1..∞).head 01:21
camelia ( no output )
AlexDaniel` e: say 42 01:23
evalable6 42
AlexDaniel` camelia is currently slow even on IRC
aearnus[m] yeah, but it's super nice that it works at all 01:24
AlexDaniel` yeah, the beauty of federation
aearnus[m] if you can DM camelia/eval6 that'd be super convenient on the go
AlexDaniel` can't ya?
aearnus[m] never tried
AlexDaniel` you can 01:25
just tried it
just open a direct chat with camelia
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Xliff Matrix is nice. I might use it for other communities. 01:25
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AlexDaniel` I kinda prefer emacs for chatting so I'm still natively on IRC most of the time 01:27
aearnus[m] are you one of those people who has emacs open 24/7
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AlexDaniel` sure, as a daemon 01:27
aearnus[m] I used to be, until VS code came along. now I just have VS code and firefox constantly open and eating all my RAM 01:28
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aearnus[m] how's that for a downgrade, haha. one slim app (emacs) replaced by two massive, bloated web browsers 01:28
AlexDaniel` 🤷
if it works for you :) 01:29
uzl Any idea how the first sentence could be reworded/improved in docs.perl6.org/language/functions#...extcallee? 01:30
discord6 <Aearnus> uzl: "nextcallee captures and returns the next valid matching candidate. This is the same candidate that would have otherwise been called by nextsame" 01:32
uzl Sorry, I'm kinda of lost. I mean this "Redispatch may be required to call a block that is not the current scope what provides nextsame and friends with the problem to referring to the wrong scope." 01:36
aearnus[m] it's just trying to provide a reason to use nextcallee
it could be something more like "In some situations, you might want to save the function that would have been otherwise called through redispatch." 01:38
uzl What I had at first was "Redispatch may be required to call a block that is not the current scope which 01:39
provides nextsame and friends with the problem that refers to the wrong scope."
I'm not sure if it's technically correct though.
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aearnus[m] hmm 01:40
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aearnus[m] i mean they're trying to talk about the problem of "let's say you want to use `nextwith`, but you return from the current `multi` block before you want to use `nextwith` -- so you can save the function with `nextcallee` instead"... but the code example doesn't show that 01:41
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uzl Oh, I see. I think I'm getting it. 01:51
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Geth doc: uzluisf++ created pull request #2955:
Proofread some documents		 01:57
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Geth whateverable: 3e820d521c | (Aleks-Daniel Jakimenko-Aleksejev)++ | 2 files
Check if resolved nickname is still on the channel

So that “foo`: hello” doesn't actually do anything if “foo” is on the channel. It'd be even better if we normalized all current nicknames, but I don't think it's going to help in practice.		 02:07
whateverable: b1eecb81f2 | (Aleks-Daniel Jakimenko-Aleksejev)++ | xbin/Tellable.p6
Pass just the message (and not the command)

So that “.tell” is not part of the message in all code paths.
Xliff uzl: "In situations where the scope changes, you may want to preserve the routine that nextwith would provide to use in that scope." 02:14
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uzl Xliff: Thanks. That makes more sense :-)! 02:19
Xliff It still reads a little clumsy to me, but I think that's probably close to what you want. 02:24
In situations where the scope changes, you may want to preserve the routine that nextwith would provide. This will allow you to call that routine in the new scope." 02:25
... maybe?
aearnus[m] I like that a lot Xliff
Xliff Cool. 02:26
Now I need to reboot into the Better OS (although I spend sooo much more time in the Popular one).
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discord6 <Aearnus> linux/windows? 02:28
timotimo from linux to bsd? :D 02:29
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Geth whateverable: f605b08618 | (Aleks-Daniel Jakimenko-Aleksejev)++ | 3 files
Give sift4 a bit more room to work with

Otherwise it's unable to find actual distances for longer strings.		 02:43
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Kaiepi shit this is really cool github.com/rakudo/rakudo/pull/3123 02:52
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Herby_ o/ 03:31
aearnus[m] Herby_: \o ! 03:32
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aearnus[m] can you have module-local variables? I'm using `DBIish` and I want to make a bunch of subroutines to interface with the DB but I only want to mainain one DB connection in `$db` 05:37
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aearnus[m] aha! `our` variables :D 05:48
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aearnus[m] are `our` variables guarenteed to only be instantiated once? 05:51
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aearnus[m] uploaded an image: Screenshot from 2019-08-16 23-50-42.png (302KB) < matrix.org/_matrix/media/v1/downlo...ATXyJCFiwq > 06:51
uh-oh. bug report?
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Elronnd www.reddit.com/r/programmingcircle...d/ewd0z0z/ this is hilarious 06:58
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aearnus[m] > "Perl" ~~in the name "Perl 6"~~ is confusing and irritating 07:01
hehe
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aearnus[m] could someone try building github.com/Aearnus/crystallarium on their system? it just keeps giving me an NQP error. 07:09
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kent\n "more like changing your family name than your given name -- it's explicitly disavowing the Perl heritage." .. people do this all the time. My mother got married, changed her last name. We still have christmas with what's left of her side of the family :p 07:41
( And people who have family names that have poor connotations tend to change them in order to avoid undue persecution. Not many people around these days with the surname "Hitler". Oops, Godwinned it ) 07:43
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kent\n Something something drumpf also. 07:44
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moritz kent\n: there's nothing wrong with doing that, but doing that and at the same time claiming to not want to disavow the heritage, that's just split-brained, IMHO 08:08
kent\n you're not disavowing your heritage when you change your surname to avoid undue persecution. You're avoiding repeated problems due to peoples /perception/ of what it means. 08:09
I have family members who wish to change both their first name, and their surname, simply due to the repeated problems they have that NOBODY can spell it right, even when the spelling is given to them in hard digital copy. 08:10
My brother recently applied for an ID card, and it arrived to him, with his name spelled wrong. ( This is in "you had ONE JOB" category ) 08:11
robertle perhaps "avoiding persecution" isn't the best analogy
kent\n When he filed a complaint, the response to that complaint *also* spelled his name wrong in the reply!
moritz it's not like spelling "perl" is the problem here
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kent\n Yes, sure, not the "spelling" so much. But changing your name != disavowing your ancestry. 08:12
Ancestry and Heritage are so much more than your name.
moritz but in this case, it's explicitly to not be perceived to be the Perl heir, to stay with the family analogy 08:13
kent\n The key word is "perceived"
lizmat robertle: I think the "avoiding persecution" analogy is very apt
kent\n Peoples perceptions about words are ... well, not necessarily any reflection of truth.
lizmat "Nobody ever got fired for choosing Python" 08:14
In a way, "Perl" is not given a fair chance *because* of its name, be that Perl 5 or Perl 6
kent\n I mean, if your last name was Hitler, I bet you wouldn't list that fact on any Resume's you put forward to jobs. 08:15
lizmat see Peter Scott's, Curtis Poe comments
kent\n Doesn't mean you wouldn't still associate with the rest of your family, who probably also had that surname.
robertle lizmat: yeah, I get that. but just changing the name isn't going to help much, and the Perl 6 needs to prove that it does not accrue the same reputation pretty quick
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robertle but I am not arguing against the name change, just that we should avoid words like "divorce" or "prosecution" in this context and frame it a bit more positive 08:16
lizmat I was just trying to get my point across to moritz :-) 08:17
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robertle yeah. still, I guess we *also* need to focus on making sure we don't repeat Perl 5's reputation-fate under a new name :) 08:18
*another* great name wasted...
lizmat noted
:-)
aearnus[m] quick, someone register rakumonks.org :P 08:19
lizmat I think the monk analogy has worn out 08:20
moritz and install software from the 1980s there? SCRN
aearnus[m] lizmat: agreed, the sarcasm didn't come through over IRC 08:21
lizmat sometihing like "cameliakeepers.org" would be better :-)
aearnus[m] "La Familia De Camelia" might be a sorely missed opportunity 08:23
Geth problem-solving: lizmat++ created pull request #89:
Path to raku		 08:25
aearnus[m] Also: can I just say that "Not Quite Pottery" is an absolutely fantastic acronym for nqp 08:28
lizmat yeah, I like that one as well
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Geth ecosystem/lukasvalle-patch-1: 86da237b1d | lukasvalle++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | META.list
Add jsonhound to ecosystem

Add jsonhound "a system for parsing JSON data structures and identifying anomalies" (github.com/oposs/jsonhound) to ecosytem.		 11:31
ecosystem: lukasvalle++ created pull request #464:
Add jsonhound to ecosystem		 11:32
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Grinnz I mentioned on the commit that I don't have a strong opinion on Pod6, but regarding "it's a superset of Pod", is anyone familiar enough with both to know if that's accurate? 13:27
I know that almost no Pod6 will be valid Pod because it appears that Pod6 directives are not paragraph based 13:28
but I'm not sure about the other way around
moritz I'm pretty sure it's not a proper superset of pod5 13:30
Grinnz there weren't 5 pods (maybe I'm agreeing with AlexDaniel saying the 6 doesn't make sense there :) 13:31
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timotimo it should be called PND 13:59
for Plain New Documentation
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chloekek Or ROD, since it's not plain at all. 14:02
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timotimo what does the R stand for? 14:06
AMDOG, All-Mighty Documentation Of the Gods
chloekek Rich
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Grinnz I guess if Pod6 directives are not paragraph based that would answer my question: what does =item foo\nbar do in Pod6? 14:10
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timotimo oh, that's rich :P 14:11
Grinnz actually pretty common for a =head or =item in pod to be multiline
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El_Che "10:13 < moritz> but in this case, it's explicitly to not be perceived to be the Perl heir, to stay with the family analogy" 15:35
moritz: the idea is that Perl 6 is NOT the heir of Perl 5. It's also about "unfuckingup" the relation with Perl 5. 15:36
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El_Che moritz: sure, in my professional surroundings is Perl a curse worse and it means that a Perl 6 project has zero chance if you want more than 1 person. But it's also about giving Perl 5 people a change to clean up their reputation. If they succeed in that or not (or if we believe it possible or not), is up to them. But doing whatever possible to help with that is being a good community member. 15:40
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antoniogamiz someone knows what are the requirements to install this module? => github.com/sergot/openssl 15:41
I cannot install it in alpine linux :( 15:42
El_Che So, it's all about creating chances. For me, Perl 6 with Perl in the name has zero chances of a more general adoption. But it's also about helping Perl 5.
antoniogamiz: does it work on other distributions? (wondering if it's a musl thing) 15:43
antoniogamiz yep, I'm using ubuntu 16.04 and it works
tyil antoniogamiz: openssl-dev iirc
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antoniogamiz it's 001 what's ffailing 15:43
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antoniogamiz tyil: I will try that! I was installing openssl and libressl-dev only 15:44
tyil Alpine is switching back to OpenSSL
antoniogamiz ah 15:45
tyil libressl wasn't as drop-in as they had hoped :p
I would generally suggest using debian:latest for testing out stuff in docker, since Debian is just way better supported, and switch only to Alpine when you want to start optimizing your released builds to be smaller 15:46
antoniogamiz that makes sense, thanks for the advice .D 15:47
:D*
El_Che tyil's words are wise :)
tyil only on occasion! 15:48
El_Che it's all about the frequency
chloekek p6: my %info; given ｢author chloekek｣; %info.append: $/.hash when /^ ｢author｣ \s+ $<author>=[.+] $/; say %info 15:54
camelia 5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>
Missing block
at <tmp>:1
------> 3my %info; given ｢author chloekek｣7⏏5; %info.append: $/.hash when /^ ｢author｣
expecting any of:
block or pointy block
chloekek p6: my %info; given ｢author chloekek｣ { %info.append: $/.hash when /^ ｢author｣ \s+ $<author>=[.+] $/; }; say %info
camelia {author => ｢chloekek｣}
chloekek Nice pattern for parsing files with per-line info into hashes.
Juerd Meh, #81 being blocked means I can't comment on its specifics 15:55
Er, I meant #89
Which is blocked because #81 is
"If you can't comment on this PR, please talk to us on #perl6 channel on freenode." -- do you want the comments here, or just the notification that I would have liked to leave a comment? 15:57
moritz Juerd: I'll happily post your comment on github, if you send it to me 15:59
if it's more than one IRC line, consider using a gist or so
tyil chloekek: if you have more of those patterns to easily do useful (or fun!) things with, you could write a advent calendar post for it :>
Juerd moritz: ".code" is confusing with ".codes" on strings, and JJ is wrong that "rnd" is uncommon; it's a common extension for files with random data. 16:02
chloekek Oh, Match.hash returns a hash of matches. :( 16:03
tyil I've never seen people use .rnd for "random data"
moritz chloekek: what did you expect? 16:04
Juerd moritz: For replacing .perl I'd suggest .guts 16:05
El_Che Juerd: .thegoods 16:06
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lucasb .guts sounds cool :) 16:06
chloekek moritz: strings, but I can use Str() in my signature so it's fine. :P
lucasb any reason why ".dump" wasn't considered?
or .inspect 16:07
moritz python uses repr(...)
Juerd lucasb: Personally I wouldn't like that; perl has a dump keyword (perldoc -f dump) and it being reserved is annoying because I want to name my own functions "dump" all the time
(that being .dump) 16:08
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El_Che .dropthebase 16:13
.inspect sound reasonable 16:14
go added a nu symbol for (s)printf 16:15
v
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Grinnz moritz: i think Juerd meant those comments for #89 not #81 16:16
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Grinnz i would caution against using "new" in the name for the same reasons brought up why "neuperl" wouldn't age well - "old" is always true but "new" is only true for a little while ;) 16:20
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ecocode I was looking for stats about perl6 modules and found this www.modulecounts.com/. Anyone knows if this is soewhat accurate data for Perl6 ? 16:30
(ca 1000 modules available) 16:31
(average growth 0/day)
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Juerd Grinnz, moritz: This is correct, these comments are related to #89. 17:18
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Xliff \o 17:30
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chloekek Needed a prefix operator for escaping strings, ended up picking ☂ because "it protects" 😅 17:52
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Xliff 💩 17:54
Really, WeeChat?
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Xliff m: '☂'.uniname.say 17:56
camelia UMBRELLA
lucasb umbrella ella ella eh eh eh 17:57
Xliff lucasb: Oh ghod. Why did you remind me of that song?!
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chloekek p6: say ｢foo \\ bar｣; 18:03
camelia foo \\ bar
chloekek p6: say ｢He said: \"give me \$5\" \\\\ lol｣;
camelia He said: \"give me \$5\" \\\\ lol
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tobs chloekek: I think I used that as a high-precedence pairing operator once. All of unicode is not enough... 18:08
chloekek tobs: maybe I should use a symbol that you see on emergency exit signs, because "escape" 18:12
Or ␛ 18:13
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Xliff OOh! New stagestats behavior. 18:39
Is there any way to go back to the old one? 18:40
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timotimo nope! 19:14
would you want to?
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Xliff timotimo: Kinda, yeah. The new format blows away my old parsing routines for stat tracking. 19:23
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Xliff Love the new format, but my addled mind will need to come up with better parsing routines before I can make the jump. 19:23
timotimo just filter out anything that starts with psaces 19:24
Xliff Hmm... might be a good idea. Thanks!
See! My addled brayne got "spaces" out of "psaces"!
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Geth doc: Aearnus++ created pull request #2956:
Fixed the aliases link on the CLI doc page		 20:20
doc: 69e15b5da1 | Aearnus++ | doc/Language/create-cli.pod6
Fixed the aliases link on the CLI doc
 20:23
synopsebot Link: doc.perl6.org/language/create-cli
doc: 76683f2d2f | (Aleks-Daniel Jakimenko-Aleksejev)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | doc/Language/create-cli.pod6
Merge pull request #2956 from Aearnus/master

Fixed the aliases link on the CLI doc page
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timotimo m: class Foo { has uint8 $.bar }; Foo.new.bar = 1234567890 23:26
camelia Cannot modify an immutable Int (0)
in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1
timotimo m: class Foo { has uint8 $.bar is rw }; Foo.new.bar = 1234567890
camelia ( no output )
Xliff m: class Foo { has uint8 $.bar is rw │ casdr_ 23:27
timotimo m: class Foo { has uint8 $.bar is rw }; (my $f = Foo.new).bar = 1234567890; say $f.perl
camelia 5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>
Confused
at <tmp>:1
------> 3class Foo { has uint8 $.bar is rw7⏏5 │ casdr_
expecting any of:
constraint
infix
infix stopper
postfix
…
Foo.new(bar => -46)
timotimo haha, uint is so funny
Xliff Yes. That's still a problem.
timotimo not a problem when passing data to C 23:28
Xliff Still. If I have a uint8, and I set it to 255. I bloody well wanna see 255, when I print it out! 23:29
timotimo could be a bug in the default perl method for all i know 23:30
Xliff m: use NativeCall; sub cprintf(Str, int32) is native { * }; my $a = 123456789; cprintf("%d", $a) 23:32
camelia Cannot locate symbol 'cprintf' in native library ''
in method setup at /home/camelia/rakudo-m-inst-1/share/perl6/core/sources/947BDAB9F96E0E5FCCB383124F923A6BF6F8D76B (NativeCall) line 287
in method CALL-ME at /home/camelia/rakudo-m-inst-1/sha…
Xliff m: use NativeCall; sub cprintf(Str, int32) is symbol ('printf') is native { * }; my $a = 123456789; cprintf("%d", $a)
camelia 5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>
Missing block
at <tmp>:1
------> 3eCall; sub cprintf(Str, int32) is symbol7⏏5 ('printf') is native { * }; my $a = 123
expecting any of:
new name to be defined
Xliff m: use NativeCall; sub cprintf(Str, int32) is symbol('printf') is native { * }; my $a = 123456789; cprintf("%d", $a)
camelia 123456789
Xliff m: use NativeCall; sub cprintf(Str, int8) is symbol('printf') is native { * }; my $a = 123456789; cprintf("%d", $a) 23:33
camelia 21
Xliff ^^ That's not 255
timotimo m: say 123456789.base(16)
Xliff m: use NativeCall; sub cprintf(Str, int16) is symbol('printf') is native { * }; my $a = 123456789; cprintf("%d", $a)
camelia 75BCD15 23:34
-13035
timotimo m: say :16(15)
camelia This call only converts base-16 strings to numbers; value 15 is of type Int, so cannot be converted!
(If you really wanted to convert 15 to a base-16 string, use 15.base(16) instead.)
in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1
Xliff timotimo: That's cheating
timotimo m: say :16<15>
camelia 21
timotimo that's why you get 21, that's literally what you're passing
Xliff hmm... the resolves would give the same response. 23:35
timotimo the resolves?
Xliff nm
*sigh*
I will stub zem.
That's a LOT of code to replace. 23:36
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