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wtwt5237 | hello. I am a perl5 diehard, and I am now seriously thinking about moving to perl6/raku. Could someone give me some insight of whether this will be worth the effort? will raku start to gain popularity one day? | 02:32 | |
sjn | wtwt5237: it's worth it, in my opinion | 02:34 | |
wtwt5237: as for the future, it kinda depends on people like us | 02:35 | ||
wtwt5237 | thanks, really want to see raku succeed. but there seems to be a difficult task. also, will raku get faster one day? performance seems to an issue | ||
yeah, I am a bioinformatician. I want to promote raku in bioinformatics | 02:36 | ||
sjn | if everyone postpones learning (and consequently being able to speak informedly about it) because we're waiting for everyone else to "get it"... nothing's going to happen | ||
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sjn | so asking about popularity (future or present) is fundamentally the wrong question to ask | 02:37 | |
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sjn | if you want to promote Raku, then skip the waiting part, and just dive into it | 02:38 | |
in fact, try - just for fun - to implement some bioinformatics tools and libraries in Raku | |||
this means a few things | |||
1) you'll have fun, because learning is fun, and Raku is fun | 02:39 | ||
2) you'll hone your bioinformatics skillset in general (which increases your employability and understanding of and within the field) | |||
3) you might help the Raku devs finding weak or slow spots in the implementation that they can help optimize | 02:40 | ||
wtwt5237 | thx. starting to learn today! | ||
sjn | 4) you'll be able to truthfully share your actual experience and the opinions you build from that, instead of just do some empty hyping | 02:41 | |
5) and, just to repeat myself; you'll have fun. :) | |||
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sjn | performance is ok for many things, but there's still lots of things that has room for improvement | 02:42 | |
but to identify those bits, the devs need more real-world relevant code | 02:43 | ||
so if you make something that is actually useful for actual bioinformatics research or computation or [whatever], you can come here later and say "this thing here - it's waay to slow! can you make it finish in faster than 10 seconds? that's how fast it goes when I use the feature-equivalent Python implementation" | 02:45 | ||
now, *that's* useful feedback | |||
so please don't wait for what everyone else does, instead proceed having fun and use that to find the bits that needs improving first | 02:46 | ||
btw, feel free to join the #raku channel :) | 02:47 | ||
wtwt5237 | cool. great to see there are still people who are so emotional about "making perl great again":) | ||
sjn | nah, I'm just a bit frustrated about how common your question is :-P | ||
wtwt5237 | '=D | 02:49 | |
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discord6 | <Aearnus> a while back I made a stoichiometry lib for ruby. I just realized I could practically port it to Raku line for line | 05:57 | |
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xinming | m: `abc`; | 13:16 | |
evalable6 | (exit code 1) 04===SORRY!04=== Error while compiling /tmp/EoC1ee1NRH Bogus s… |
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xinming, Full output: gist.github.com/4abeb464776a525d3e...3e1207a98c | |||
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