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See https://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/wiki/Monthly-Bug-Squash-Day [09:08] *** Ven`` joined [09:09] *** Ven`` joined [10:01] hmm, it maybe, hopefully, entirely my fault [10:52] *** brrt joined [12:38] *** brrt joined [12:47] *** undersightable6 joined [12:51] samcv: is updating https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MoarVM part of the release process? [12:51] if not, maybe it should be [12:52] “Stable release 2017.02” [12:52] that's not even 2018 [12:52] Is this scripted as part of the Rakudo release process? If so, can we just nab the code? [12:53] Also, "stable release" doesn't exist. We just have (monthly) releases. [12:53] there's no code, I did attempt to automate it but never finished it [12:54] NeuralAnomaly also doesn't have it I think [12:54] wow, that page is out of date [12:55] https://xkcd.com/386/ [12:55] :) [12:56] I wonder if we can be considered not notable enough, and thus problem solved? :P [12:58] I'm surprised that it's not deleted yet… [12:59] but then how do you know if a project is "special biologist word for stable" or alive, if there is no Wikipedia page observing it? [12:59] Categories: Stub-Class Computing articles | Low-importance Computing articles [12:59] :) [12:59] where "alive" is "under active development" but I coudln't see how to allude to dead/alive with both terms substituted [13:00] *** zakharyas joined [13:01] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MoarVM [13:01] *** bisectable6 joined [13:01] gets a " may not meet Wikipedia's notability guidelines for products and services" whist https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parrot_virtual_machine does not [13:09] * lizmat has at least updated the release info [13:10] *** bisectable6 joined [13:11] *** zakharyas joined [13:11] "However, Rakudo on the Java Virtual Machine is still faster for longer running programs." [Citation needed!] [13:13] *** committable6 joined [13:14] hehe once it runs, I guess that's probably still true for some value of"longer" :-) [13:15] *** committable6 joined [13:22] *** committable6 joined [13:26] *** undersightable6 joined [13:31] *** undersightable6 joined [14:11] *** zakharyas joined [14:17] *** zakharyas1 joined [14:59] implmeenting getlexcaller in the jit blows up :-( [15:03] :( [15:04] yeah, and its not quite obvious why [15:08] * jnthn hopes his SEGV in the spesh plugin mechanism will turn out to be more obvious [15:12] oh, it is more obvious than i thought :-) [15:13] i should've expected a NULL and returned a VMNull if so [15:15] hang on, res->o is a deref, innit? [15:15] yes [15:15] good :-) [15:15] Well yeah, mine was silly. Used unsigned ints where shoulda used signed :P [15:16] at what point, i sometimes wonder, do we actually start blaming the programming language [15:19] ¦ MoarVM/pluggable-spesh: 6cb9624a5e | (Jonathan Worthington)++ | src/spesh/plugin.c [15:19] ¦ MoarVM/pluggable-spesh: Use unsigned ints in binary search [15:19] ¦ MoarVM/pluggable-spesh: review: https://github.com/MoarVM/MoarVM/commit/6cb9624a5e [15:22] jnthn: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/cpp/c-runtime-library/reference/bsearch [15:22] or 'man bsearch' [15:32] ¦ MoarVM: 1ef4aaf736 | (Bart Wiegmans)++ | tools/jit-bisect.pl [15:32] ¦ MoarVM: [jit-bisect.pl] spesh bisect is 1-based [15:32] ¦ MoarVM: [15:32] ¦ MoarVM: We'd request a log for a frame just one after the one that was [15:32] ¦ MoarVM: supposedly broken. [15:32] ¦ MoarVM: review: https://github.com/MoarVM/MoarVM/commit/1ef4aaf736 [15:53] ¦ MoarVM/pluggable-spesh: 0f52872be2 | (Jonathan Worthington)++ | 6 files [15:53] ¦ MoarVM/pluggable-spesh: Aggregate spesh plugin resolution statistics [15:53] ¦ MoarVM/pluggable-spesh: review: https://github.com/MoarVM/MoarVM/commit/0f52872be2 [15:54] Yay, now - at last - nearly at the point where the magic happens. :) [15:59] *** robertle joined [16:16] AlexDaniel`: ah that sounds like a good idea [16:17] so we need some pages to cite so moarvm becomes notable [16:17] also However, Rakudo on the Java Virtual Machine is still faster for longer running programs. << i want this line removed [16:21] *** domidumont joined [16:23] samcv: done [16:25] also since we are developers. we could always write a blog post. and then can site it and it's a notable citation because a developer of the project wrote it :) [16:25] though that won't do for proving that moarvm itself is notable. just that what we say can be true about the project [16:27] i don't think that's how that works [16:28] really? [16:28] i think notability requires "other people" to write about you? [16:28] hmm [16:28] yeah that's what i mean [16:28] well, core devs aren't "other people" :) [16:28] i mean developers writing something could be ok for citing some facts about moarvm [16:28] but we'd need some outside article to show that moarvm is notable [16:28] what we need is someone to interview one of us :P [16:29] unless that is me, in which case there should be two people being interviewed [16:29] because i tend to get stuff wrong :P [16:29] (like how wikipedia works) [16:30] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7806723 [16:31] something that comes up for me in a google search [16:37] ¦ MoarVM/pluggable-spesh: 4138b806c4 | (Jonathan Worthington)++ | src/spesh/facts.c [16:37] ¦ MoarVM/pluggable-spesh: Analyze spesh plugin guard indices for stability [16:37] ¦ MoarVM/pluggable-spesh: [16:37] ¦ MoarVM/pluggable-spesh: Currently we don't do anything with that determination, but this is [16:37] ¦ MoarVM/pluggable-spesh: what will allow us to carry on and rewrite the instruction and add [16:37] ¦ MoarVM/pluggable-spesh: guards. [16:37] ¦ MoarVM/pluggable-spesh: review: https://github.com/MoarVM/MoarVM/commit/4138b806c4 [16:38] http://www.josetteorama.com/all-about-perl-6-interview-of-jonathan-worthington-part-1-of-3/ [16:39] dinner & [16:41] *** Ven`` joined [17:18] lizmat: i added a citation to that article now [18:27] *** AlexDaniel joined [20:05] ¦ MoarVM/make_builds_reproducible_again: 6899b0a172 | (Stefan Seifert)++ | 2 files [20:05] ¦ MoarVM/make_builds_reproducible_again: Serialize hashes sorted for more reproducible builds [20:05] ¦ MoarVM/make_builds_reproducible_again: review: https://github.com/MoarVM/MoarVM/commit/6899b0a172 [20:08] *** Kaiepi joined [20:12] *** Kaiepi joined [20:49] *** brrt joined [20:55] good * [21:26] ¦ MoarVM/jit-moar-ops: 6 commits pushed by (Bart Wiegmans)++ [21:26] ¦ MoarVM/jit-moar-ops: 88ad4b4743 | [JIT] Implement throwpayloadlexcaller [21:26] ¦ MoarVM/jit-moar-ops: 1b8037f850 | [JIT] Implements unless_s/if_s [21:26] ¦ MoarVM/jit-moar-ops: 5a67a9c996 | [JIT] Implement getlexcaller [21:26] ¦ MoarVM/jit-moar-ops: 089275e6dd | [JIT] Implement sp_getstringfrom [21:26] ¦ MoarVM/jit-moar-ops: f5a714bdd8 | [JIT] Fix getlexcaller [21:26] ¦ MoarVM/jit-moar-ops: 59efde7980 | [JIT] Implement currentthread [21:26] ¦ MoarVM/jit-moar-ops: review: https://github.com/MoarVM/MoarVM/compare/88ad4b474311^...59efde798037 [21:26] whee! [21:29] i can run make test only after running make realclean on rakudo. [21:29] hmm [21:31] * lizmat calls it a night [21:47] *** MasterDuke joined [22:11] yay, MVM_JIT_SPESH_SLOT_VALUE! [22:26] *** Kaiepi joined [22:55] *** Kaiepi joined