[04:12] *** harrow left [04:22] *** harrow joined [05:42] *** domidumont joined [05:47] *** domidumont left [06:17] *** domidumont joined [06:43] *** robertle left [08:08] *** sena_kun joined [08:09] *** MasterDuke left [08:27] *** zakharyas joined [08:33] *** chloekek joined [08:40] *** Kaiepi left [08:56] *** MasterDuke joined [08:56] *** chloekek left [08:58] *** zakharyas left [09:01] *** robertle joined [09:02] *** zakharyas joined [10:15] jnthn: forgot to say - our cellar is somewahat chaoatic. Yesterday I discovered that some plonker had left an empty crate of beer bottles blocking the beer fridge. How silly. [10:23] Oh deer [10:23] *dear [10:23] hah [10:23] I read it as "a crate of empty beer bottles" [10:24] Apparently my brain auto-corrects for pessimism... [10:24] acually, your brain corrected it to what I meant to type to be clear [10:24] the crate had all slots full with empty beer bottles [10:24] to be clear, the good news was that once removed, the beer fridge could be opened and was *not* itself emptya [10:25] and also, there is another crate which has some beer in it still, with which to restock the fridge [10:25] It is good that today is Friday, because I appear to be in need of a weekend [10:26] :) [10:26] Here we order groceries online, and they will take away empty beer bottles (at least, the redeemable ones) and credit the account for it with the next shopping [10:26] This is convenient [10:37] *** Kaiepi joined [10:46] *** Voldenet left [10:51] *** zakharyas left [12:10] when do you need to use MVMROOT? i have a feeling async sockets don't entirely use it properly after reading that slew of commits related to MVMROOT from a while ago, but i can't really say i know anything about how it's used besides how it takes MVMObject-based structs [12:11] i can explain [12:11] moarvm's GC relies on a set of roots to find every live object; one effect of not having an MVMROOT when it's needed is that an object can be freed erroneously while some C code is still working with it [12:12] it also uses marking to find all references both to find more live objects, and to have the pointers that need updating [12:12] so another effect of an MVMROOT being missing is that the pointer you're not rooting will point at the previous location where an object lived [12:13] so you'll have to MVMROOT all pointers that you'll be using in the future, and they have to be rooted at the moment a GC run could happen, which is everywhere something gets allocated or when a GC_SYNC_POINT is explicitly put into the code [12:23] *** lucasb joined [12:23] perfect, so what i had written before i thought to ask about it was right [12:25] i knew the pointers to gced could move after reading those commits, but not really the details as to why [12:25] thanks [12:46] YW [13:24] *** zakharyas joined [13:26] *** chloekek joined [15:00] hmm, ==95035== Conditional jump or move depends on uninitialised value(s) [15:00] ==95035== at 0x50662D5: MVM_hll_map (hll.c:196) [15:01] *** chloekek left [15:15] *** domidumont left [15:59] *** robertle left [16:21] *** AlexDaniel` left [16:35] *** AlexDaniel` joined [16:48] *** vesper11 left [16:48] *** vesper11 joined [17:02] *** Kaiepi left [17:13] *** domidumont joined [17:17] *** domidumont left [17:17] *** sena_kun left [17:47] *** Ven`` joined [17:58] *** Ven`` left [18:08] *** Voldenet joined [18:08] *** Voldenet left [18:08] *** Voldenet joined [18:40] *** domidumont joined [18:54] *** Ven`` joined [19:01] *** domidumont left [19:03] *** zakharyas left [19:15] *** Kaiepi joined [20:19] *** MasterDuke75 joined [20:22] *** MasterDuke left [21:00] *** brrt joined [21:07] \o [21:08] .tell pamplemousse I found something interesting (I think); it's possible to define the 'main' in a shared library [21:08] brrt, I'll pass your message to pamplemousse [21:10] so it's possible to create a, say, libmoarstarter.so, which we'd link to the ELF-ppacked file, and which would know to load the CU from memory [22:03] How, does that work in a cross-platform manner? [22:38] *** brrt left [23:24] *** Ven`` left