November -- doing stuff in Perl 6 in the months before Christmas. <november-wiki.org> <github.com/viklund/november> <irclog.perlgeek.de/november-wiki> <nopaste.snit.ch>
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PerlJam wee! 21:49
masak PerlJam: welcome. :)
...and Heppy November!
PerlJam Can I assume that you guys know that "make tests" (why plural?) dies with "get_pmc_keyed() not implemented in class 'Undef'" ? 21:50
masak PerlJam: maybe, maybe not... 21:55
there's been a lot of flux in Rakudo lately
PerlJam: the 's' in 'make tests' is probably due to our lovely foreign hacker
he's very productive, but his English isn't perfect 21:56
moritz_ uhm, 'make tests' uses `perl6' without that $(PARROT_DIR) prefix. very breaking.
masak indeed.
I'll fix that too.
PerlJam++ moritz_++ 21:57
moritz_ masak: want a patch?
PerlJam how can I contribute if you keep taking the low-hanging fruit? ;-)
masak moritz_: always ;)
PerlJam (granted, that fruit was on the ground it was hanging so low)
masak PerlJam: you're welcome to send a patch ;)
PerlJam can I get a commit bit? 21:58
masak PerlJam: what's your github account name?
PerlJam perlpilot
masak @tell viklund could you enable perlpilot in the november-wiki github project, please?
zarah Consider it noted.
PerlJam cool
masak PerlJam: that's all I can do for now.
zarah: you're a smart girl. 21:59
zarah masak: Then how come I'm stuck in this vat, with no body?
masak zarah: shut up!
zarah masak: no, YOU shut up!
masak I'm awfully sorry. :/ 22:00
moritz_ masak: nopaste.snit.ch/14556 22:01
I get some imcc errors in Test.pir
masak oh my
moritz_ but I don't think it's related to my patch
masak glad to have the two of you here, at least :) 22:02
moritz_ ah, a 'make clean' fixed that
now I get the get_pmc_keyed() not implemented in class 'Undef' that PerlJam reported
karma PerlJam
zarah PerlJam has a karma of 1
masak moritz_: Hunk #2 FAILED at 17.
moritz_: sure you have the latest revision? 22:03
moritz_ masak: I did a 'git-pull' just 10min ago
masak strange.
will try to apply patch manually.
moritz_ Hunk #2 is just s/perl6/\\$(RAKUDO)/g 22:04
masak yes, I saw that. 22:05
maybe I screwed up with patch, there doesn't seem to be any obvious collision 22:06
moritz_: ah, could it be that nopaste converts tabs to spaces? 22:07
moritz_ masak: possibly
masak is there a patch flag that ignores that, maybe?
yup, -l
that did it
Makefile--
patch++ 22:08
PerlJam nopaste-- too 22:09
masak PerlJam: would you like to contribute a patch for your fallen fruit, or do you prefer to wait until you get your commit bit?
PerlJam I'll wait 22:10
masak shouldn't take more that a day, I hope. 22:11
s/that/than/
PerlJam What's the exact function of the perl 5 references implementation? Just another implementation that does the same stuff as the perl6 one with no other connection? 22:13
s/ces/ce/
masak PerlJam: yes, sort of.
PerlJam sort of? 22:14
masak it had a great use this summer, when one couldn't sneeze in Rakudo without crashing it.
it functioned as a live spec, a reminder of what it was we wanted to implement.
made us less prone to compromise.
moritz_ masak: the Undef error seems to come from is_deeply
masak nowadays, that need is not as large.
moritz_: then it might be a known problem. 22:15
moritz_: I think ihrd mailed about that.
PerlJam I was thinking that there should be some subset of tests that work identically between the p5 and p6 implementations and that they should share in this regard.
masak moritz_: or he might have sent in a rakudobug.
PerlJam: good idea.
PerlJam (I was also thinking that the perl 5 implementation should use Moose, but that's another story ;) 22:17
masak it should, at least to the degree that it should use OO.
perfecting p5w is not our main priority :)
but if it can be improved at little cost, that's of course a Good Thing 22:18
PerlJam indeed
masak ok, time to hit the sack. 22:33
thanks for the bug reports and patches, past and future.
moritz_ runs 'make spectest', and will commit with +3 test files (to rakudo) if it works out
and then I'll sleep too 22:34
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