2009 -- the year of November. <november-wiki.org> <github.com/viklund/november> <irclog.perlgeek.de/november-wiki> <nopaste.snit.ch>
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ihrd "Everything you say can, and will, be used against you. Please put on your own mask first, then help others." 07:07
I miss that in commits
but now start last November on my local apache, and see on the Log in page 07:08
funy :)
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masak OH HAI 09:08
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masak @tell egonw re bugs.bioclipse.net: that was already fixed, but zarah needed a reboot :) 09:09
zarah Consider it noted.
moritz_ good morning 09:11
masak moritz_: hallo.
ihrd: heh, I want to reply to all four of your emails. 09:12
but that will have to wait till later today.
ihrd masak: hi 09:15
masak: I start to review ::Minimal, put link_maker into atrribute again 09:17
masak ok.
I have no problem with that.
probably what I would have done anyway with both Minimal and MediaWiki.
ihrd and make it works with MediWiki extlink 09:18
masak nice.
ihrd ah, and fix MediaWiki, noexistent wiki page now looks like it should be 09:22
masak excellent.
I was trying last weekend to implement MediaWiki lists, but ran into problems, mostly with Rakudo. 09:23
haven't tried again since then.
most of my effort has gone into Druid this week. 09:24
ihrd Do you reach author? 09:25
masak yes, at some point in early january, I think.
I had to challenge him to a game of Druid to get hold of him. :)
ihrd He is not creator? 09:27
masak he created the rules of the game, yes. 09:28
ihrd I changed linux-distro (Archlinux now) and reinstall apache, so today I configure for November 09:29
masak cool.
I've asked viklund to show me how to set up November p6w in Apache.
ihrd It is simple, I hope you get your local November soon 09:30
masak me too.
I realize that it'll help development forward a lot. 09:31
but my main priority right now is to make lists work in MediaWiki.
ihrd I tried to make my one November installation, but found it do not work on amd64 09:36
strange error on the 64-bit platform
masak oh?
ihrd Re-declaration of type Dispatcher at line 47, near "" 09:37
when I try to compile November.pm to pir 09:38
masak ihrd: that's probably not because of 64 bits, but because of a newer Rakudo. 09:39
I've experienced that bug too for Druid.
I've reported it.
hold on, I'll get it for you.
moritz_ currently rakudo feels a bit deserted 09:40
masak moritz_: yes. not intentionally, I'm sure.
moritz_ moved repository, no official announcement, plenty of spectests failing etc
masak aye.
moritz_: do you have the new repository URL? 09:41
moritz_ git://github.com/rakudo/rakudo.git
masak ihrd: rt.perl.org/rt3/Ticket/Display.html?id=62898
zarah masak's link is also tinyurl.com/cdwnvl
masak moritz_: many thanks.
moritz_ masak: no problem
masak moritz_: doesn't work, tho'
'not a git repository'
moritz_ that's bad :)
masak shouldn't the URL have a user name before the project name> 09:42
s/>/?/
moritz_ github.com/rakudo/rakudo/tree/master should contain a working link
zarah moritz_'s link is also tinyurl.com/bzy4ld
masak only a public clone link, but that works for now, I guess.
man, that checkout is fast. :) 09:43
moritz_ it also offers me a "your clone URL"
masak moritz_: then I guess you are a registered dev on the project. :/
moritz_ masak: /msg pmichaud, I'm sure he'll also add you when he wakes up 09:44
masak meh.
I'll talk to him directly when he wakes up. 09:45
ihrd ah, gihub! Good! 09:46
masak :)
moritz_ can I have a .gitignore file in arbitrary subdirs? 09:49
masak yes.
moritz_ nice
masak and, IIRC, it works recursively. 09:50
the man page for .gitignore is quite good, too.
www.kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git...gnore.html
zarah masak's link is also tinyurl.com/44dy7b
moritz_ is it good policy to add them to the repo? or are they usually kept locally? 09:52
masak the .gitignore files are meant to be kept in the repo.
there are other local mechanisms. 09:53
moritz_ ok, thanks
masak ok, so the Rakudo in Parrot is no longer the 'real' Rakudo? what revision information do I provide when submitting rakudobugs? 09:55
moritz_ dunno, the last commit sha1? 09:56
but I'm not really qualified to answer such questioins
masak first six dhigits, in that case.
$ perl Configure.pl 09:59
Can't open perl script "tools/dev/reconfigure.pl": No such file or directory
moritz_ masak: it expects to be checkout out in languages/rakudo in the parrot repo
masak is this stated explicitly somewhere? 10:02
the README still seems to be written as if Rakudo wasn't in its own repo. 10:03
moritz_: languages/rakudo, not languages/perl6 ? 10:04
moritz_ yes, languages/rakudo
masak perl6 is the language.
ihrd woow, github.com/rakudo/rakudo/graphs/impact
zarah ihrd's link is also tinyurl.com/demmn6
masak is annoyed/confused
moritz_ it's also languages/{pipp,cardinal} and not {php,ruby}
masak hrm. 10:05
moritz_ masak: yes, it's not done very well, if you ask me
masak call the directory implementations/, then.
moritz_ so what do the colors on the impact graph mean? 10:06
does each color represent a different committer? 10:07
masak thinks so 10:08
the README also doesn't mention the need for running Configure.pl before running make. 10:10
ihrd yes, but not always correct 10:11
masak I'm just saying the README seems out-of-date.
ihrd we have three Carl and two Ilya in November
masak yes, because of different computers and differing author information... 10:12
moritz_: still a couple of .bundle files that aren't ignored in src/ops and src/pmc 10:13
moritz_ masak: I don't get these here, but I've added them to .gitignore 10:16
masak egg-cellent.
moritz_ it still says that src/pmc/objectref.pmc is not tracked, but I don't know what's the deal with that file
masak the .bundle files are ignored now.
I get the src/pmc/objectref.pmc as well. 10:17
if it's generated, it should be ignored, IMO.
moritz_ it's in the CLEANUP list of the Makefile 10:18
ah, it's generated from objectref_pmc.template
masak oh! .template is a great suffix, we should use that in November instead of .in :) 10:19
moritz_ "nothing to commit (working directory clean)"
masak moritz_: yes? 10:20
did you do 'git add'?
moritz_ no, ignored it 10:21
masak then git will ignore you. :)
moritz_ in sovjet russia gits ignore you! 10:22
masak :P
ihrd: FYI, that's a slashdot meme, not directed to you in particular.
moritz_: also, it's spelled "Soviet" in the English transcription. 10:23
ihrd masak: I do not fully understand 10:26
masak ihrd: hang on, I'll dig up a link for you.
everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=1398456 10:27
zarah masak's link is also tinyurl.com/24gb4n
ihrd but soviet russia is a very bad time, and we have word "sovok" to indicated it characters 10:28
masak ihrd: what does 'sovok' mean? 10:29
I agree that Soviet Russia must have been a bad time. my grandmother (who was from St Petersburg, and had to flee twice in her life from the Communists) told me in no uncertain terms that she didn't like communism. 10:30
masak will leave shortly 10:32
today I will make hamburgers for lunch with a friend
moritz_ guten Appetit! 10:33
masak danke!
ihrd: ah, found it: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homo_Sovieticus 10:35
zarah masak's link is also tinyurl.com/cpvad9
ihrd 'sovok' means all that stupid, terrible and awful things that irritate you 10:36
and all this thing introduced in Soviet Russia 10:37
so, this is style
:)
I need to go 10:38
bb
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