2009 -- the year of November. <november-wiki.org> <github.com/viklund/november> <irclog.perlgeek.de/november-wiki> <nopaste.snit.ch>
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viklund_ how do you like the utf8 handling? 11:32
it's a pitty we can't use subst, or concatenation...
masak...
masak perks up
we can't?
viklund_ no, that's the parrot bug 11:33
masak because of the Parrot bug?
ah, ok.
viklund_ yep
masak but people are fixing it, right?
viklund_ masak: yes
masak good.
viklund_ so I write an array to a file (because the output layer knows how to convert from latin-1 to utf8)
masak viklund_++
that's a nice solution. 11:34
hijacking the file I/O for encoding.
viklund_ pmichaud++ called it a nasty hack in #parrot
masak um, transcoding.
well, it is.
viklund_ it's not nasty
masak still, probably the best we can do.
very much in the spirit of the rest of the November project. :)
viklund_ or, rather, we did nastier things with rakudo last summer 11:35
I want to write an IRC-bot in p6 that reports commits from github
masak viklund_: good idea. just make it really non-intrusive. 11:36
viklund_ smth like dalek I thought
masak 'Matt-W pushed to github.com/Matt-W/Form'
something like that.
zarah masak's link is also tinyurl.com/ndyqu5
masak I think individual commit messages might be a bit too verbose for all of github's Perl 6 projects. 11:37
viklund_ anyway, now Alva and I am going out
masak enjoy the outside!
viklund_ /afk
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lichtkind moin 13:29
zarah privet lichtkind
lichtkind hello zarah
viklund: why ther is fixed width 13:30
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viklund lichtkind: fixed width? 13:41
lichtkind viklund THE TEXTAREA of november has fixed width
viklund checks 13:42
lichtkind: do you have any problems with that? 13:43
viklund checks on his bigger screen 13:44
lichtkind its sometimes not practicel when topic "Articles with tag "november" " needes 3 lines
and articles are longer then needed even if it has a stylish plus
viklund ah, I thought you meant the <textarea>, not the central column 13:45
lichtkind yes the column
viklund One solution woud be to make the text smaller as well... 13:46
anyway, that's a design issue, masak is in charge of the skins, I only fix bugs in them 13:47
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lichtkind good 13:53
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lichtkind viklund: what excites you about perl 6 21:30
viklund lichtkind: everything 23:02
lichtkind hm?
viklund the grammar engine is high up there
lichtkind prettymuch
viklund uhm, gather/take is amazing
lichtkind the new rx syntax you mean? 23:03
viklund a real OO environment
not engine
the entire grammar system
how parsing has entered the next level with that enhancement
hypers are pretty convenient. 23:04
lichtkind im currently starting a nov page about the p6 interpreter
viklund oh, calling $s>>.method is cool too
lichtkind i first dezentralize the content before writing a new welcome page
viklund like <a b c d>>>.uc
lichtkind you mean @s>>.method? 23:05
viklund lichtkind: maybe you should keep the first page very much as it is for the moment
lichtkind: yes, that too
lichtkind why hyper in $s>>.method if in $s is only one object 23:11
viklund no stress it will need bit time but the current welcome page has some disadvantages 23:12
viklund my $s = <a b c d>; say $s>>.uc 23:20
or even my $s = <a b c d>; $s>>.uc>>.perl>>.say 23:21
lichtkind f cource but thats how i understood it i thought i overlooked something
viklund: you werent arounf when we set some goals for the november wontent
better i intiate you in that plan 23:22
viklund ahh
who are we? 23:23
lichtkind masak mberens and i :) 23:27
viklund ok 23:29
lichtkind viklund: when i tried second edit this page locked november-wiki.org/view/Perl_6_Interpreter 23:32
zarah lichtkind's link is also tinyurl.com/lz4hmw
lichtkind Internal Server Error
i think my biggest challenge is now to have no preview button
viklund: the plan for november was to have en newbie friendly entry point into the perl 6 worl 23:34
where everything important is explained simply in shot sentences
and linked to where real action is
because tpf wiki is somewhat unapproiachable by beginners
it more data marketplace 23:35
for perl 6 people themself
i created nearly the whole perl namespace in german wikipedia
so i have little bit xp in something like that 23:36
also written 8 part perl 6 tut in german for $foo :)
viklund: there is another bug still present i once reported 23:37
viklund lichtkind: did you put newlines at the end of the text again ;)
lichtkind the link on the perl 6 tag produces^november-wiki.org/all?tag=perl+%20+6
zarah lichtkind's link is also tinyurl.com/l4ls3l
lichtkind viklund it might be isnt that already fixed? 23:38
yes i did because this article ist finished
viklund but it crashes if you do ;) 23:39
maybe I should add som chomping...
lichtkind there is no reason that it crashes :) 23:40
viklund it is
lichtkind no good one :)
viklund anyway, the tags are not a high priority yet
lichtkind of course
are you like that goal for november?
viklund I didn't understand your question 23:42
lichtkind: now you can end a page with newlines if you want... 23:43
lichtkind thank you very much
its really fixed or workaround? 23:44
viklund uhm, don't know really 23:45
it works now 23:46
hard to classify that onw
one*
lichtkind viklund have i know commit bit?
viklund no, right, what was you github id? lichtkind??
lichtkind yes
viklund fixes 23:47
lichtkind as you see in your request tracker
viklund yes, I remembered when I pushed enter
lichtkind :)
but whats important to me
whats your thought for my november conent vision
viklund fixed 23:48
none really, I just code ;)
lichtkind i think its reasonable because rakudo is not too fast so we cant load too much text on it 23:50
and so you have also nice cooperation with perl 6 tpf wiki without too much doubling
viklund its no problem having lots of text really, we cache the parsed text 23:51
it only make *edits* slow ;) 23:52
since that's when we parse
lichtkind then preview would help :) 23:54
viklund oh, that won't save you any time ;p
it still needs to be parsed ;)
lichtkind no but shorten history 23:55
viklund ah
lichtkind i think it would help perl 6 to have a nice beginner friendly intro
now whenrakudo becomes really usable 23:56
viklund probably, yes 23:57
lichtkind so naovember can serve 2 purposes 23:58
viklund yes 23:59