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| lichtkind_ | viklund: hej | 19:47 | |
| lichtkind | viklund_: ah here you are :) | 21:06 | |
| viklund_ | yep | 21:23 | |
| lichtkind | viklund_: <complain mode>im worink here my ass off and nobody takes notice</> | 21:26 | |
| viklund_: what your doing recently | |||
| viklund_ | oh, I'm looking into making a intermidiate AST of wikimarkups | 21:27 | |
| that would be nice for at least two reasons: | |||
| 1. We can convert wiki markups between each other (way cool) | 21:28 | ||
| 2. Plugins in november can work on this AST instead (then they will become easier to implement) | |||
| If that works, I can reimplement the Tag-system as a plugin instead | 21:29 | ||
| and making Table of Contents too will become a breeze | |||
| lichtkind | ahh | 21:30 | |
| viklund_: like you seen i completed and reformated special variables in the rgerman and english cheat sheet aka Appendix B | 21:31 | ||
| viklund_: maybe will add some regex adverbs too | |||
| viklund_ | that's really good work | 21:37 | |
| Have you made a table of traits somewhere? | |||
| lichtkind | viklund_: shure sir, on the bottom oh whait what traits? | ||
| viklund_ | (like is ro and is also and so forth) | ||
| has @.kinder is ro | 21:38 | ||
| lichtkind | ah not yet | ||
| viklund_ | ro is a trait | ||
| ok | |||
| lichtkind | i know read only | ||
| but thanks for input | |||
| viklund_ | yes, I thought you knew what it was | ||
| sry, I thought you knew what it meant and what it did, but not necessarily what it was (a trait) | 21:39 | ||
| lichtkind | and the good part is during writing ther perl 6 docs i figure out what we need that novermer doesn't suck | ||
| viklund_ | Yea, that's good | ||
| lichtkind | viklund_: yeah i know these traits but BEGIN {... } e.g. is a closure trait so i was asking which one | ||
| viklund_ | ahh, ok | 21:40 | |
| language impedance then | |||
| lichtkind | there is much recycling in perl 6 my last post was about that | ||
| viklund_ | yes, haven't read it yet, where is it again? | ||
| or where you on planet perl 6 or smth? | |||
| lichtkind | its allright to call them all traits because the mechanism which handles them is the same | ||
| viklund_: yes since yesterday im on planet | 21:41 | ||
| viklund_ | ok, maybe I should start reading those ;) | ||
| lichtkind | viklund_: it where just musings about sintax | ||
| viklund_ | ok | 21:42 | |
| lichtkind | viklund_: what really sucks on Twiki is that if you want to insert link anchors in the middle of text in inserts for you newlines while saving, please never do that action | 21:45 | |
| its very important to have always full control | 21:46 | ||
| and to have an easy means to disable any wikisyntax | |||
| because i really suffere to write p6 operators and have wikisynatx in same document | |||
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| viklund_ | Maybe you should define a wikisyntax? | 21:47 | |
| I don't mean that you should implement it | |||
| lichtkind | i understood | ||
| viklund_ | only write a document saying, this should mean that | ||
| lichtkind | i dont hase to bee completely new just take best parts of twiki, wikimedia and socialtext | ||
| viklund_ | yes | ||
| lichtkind | that would be great | 21:48 | |
| what also rules is to have POD as valid WIKI markup | |||
| like the POD wiki does | |||
| which is neat project by the way | |||
| their design sucks a bit | |||
| viklund_ | yes, mberends is supposed to be working on a POD-parser in perl6, but that's stalled according to masak | 21:49 | |
| lichtkind | but thomas is great guy | ||
| viklund_ | POD is one of the markups we want to support | ||
| lichtkind | and how you define which markup a site have | 21:50 | |
| viklund_ | we have a config file | ||
| lichtkind | i have an great ide a make a iki page in november to leave my markup plans :) | ||
| viklund_ | would be great | 21:51 | |
| lichtkind | what really rules are {section: ch} in socialtext | ||
| viklund_ | it would also be nice if you could say "I want to edit this page using This markup" | ||
| though, that might not always be possible | |||
| lichtkind | or even mix it :) | ||
| viklund_ | yes | ||
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| lichtkind | always to the limit :) | 21:52 | |
| viklund_: i will insert them here: www.perlfoundation.org/perl6/index....ine_traits | 22:04 | ||
| zarah | lichtkind's link is also tinyurl.com/npfme7 | ||
| viklund_ | nice | ||
| and then you have class traits ;) | |||
| lichtkind | stooop | 22:05 | |
| viklund_ | hahaha | ||
| lichtkind | i like the illusion beeing almos complete | ||
| would november survive pages with 500 revisions? | 22:06 | ||
| www.perlfoundation.org/perl6/index.cgi?perl_6 | 22:09 | ||
| zarah | lichtkind's link is also tinyurl.com/nuzxhe | ||
| lichtkind | this should be repared too | ||
| viklund_: is in english big diff between tablet and table? | 22:11 | ||
| viklund_ | I don't know the difference between tablet and table | 22:15 | |
| why do you ask about 500 revisions? | 22:16 | ||
| it's all stored in textfiles, I think it should survive | |||
| lichtkind | because some wikis get very slow then | ||
| viklund_ | oh, it will get slow if you start looking at history I suppose | ||
| lichtkind | sorry you are no php programmer | ||
| no also a bit earlier | 22:17 | ||
| viklund_ | but as things stand now I don't think it will be slower to look at the up to date pages | ||
| lichtkind | wikipedia had this too at some time | ||
| viklund_ | but wikipedia has a lot of articles with more than 500 revisions | ||
| lichtkind | of course good sofware design is half of the rent | ||
| viklund_ | yes | ||
| our datamodel is pretty ok right now I think | 22:18 | ||
| lichtkind | shure i have more then 7000 edits third of them in perl namespace | ||
| viklund_ | the only real issue is that we use the filesystem | ||
| ;) | |||
| lichtkind | and many of my edits are deleted now | ||
| i mean deleted out of hiostory | |||
| no db? omg we all gonna dieeee :) | 22:19 | ||
| viklund_ | hehe | ||
| lichtkind | not many know that some people delete "junk" out of the history | 22:21 | |
| viklund_ | I didn't know that | ||
| but I guess they should have some kind of cleaning | |||
| lichtkind | viklund_: yes but depends on who does it and in german does it also one of the ..maybe the only woman i ever wanted to beat seriously | 22:25 | |
| i know doesnt sound like love and light :) | 22:26 | ||
| but im honest | |||
| viklund_ | oh, well | 22:27 | |
| lichtkind | the real dangerous thing behind that if people see others with different views as a thread | 22:31 | |
| threat | |||
| then they are capable of strange things | 22:32 | ||
| you dont have to weare a swastika to be nazi | |||
| its the meaning, i mean coca cola printed postcards with luck symbols like the swastika :) | 22:33 | ||
| in 1910 :) | |||
| allright lets turn to something lighter :) | |||
| viklund_ | yes | 22:44 | |
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| lichtkind_ | we slowly get somewhere | 22:53 | |
| wiki.perl-community.de/cgi-bin/fosw...ifikatoren | |||
| zarah | lichtkind_'s link is also tinyurl.com/l537br | ||