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2009 -- the year of November. <november-wiki.org> <github.com/viklund/november> <irclog.perlgeek.de/november-wiki> <nopaste.snit.ch> Set by moderator on 27 May 2009. |
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| lichtkind | why was november down? | 13:45 | |
| viklund | I cleaned up my directory on feather, the skins directory were symlinked to an old copy of november that I didn't think was used foranything... | 13:46 | |
| lichtkind | viklund: i got internal server error when i tried to create a new page | 13:49 | |
| The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request. | 13:50 | ||
| and so on | |||
| thats the crux with having users :) | 13:51 | ||
| viklund | yes, the reason was I had *misstakanely* removed the skins directory... | 13:54 | |
| lichtkind | so give me ping when thats fixed i move in town now | 13:57 | |
| viklund | its fixed | 14:00 | |
| since this morning | |||
| (or at least worked again this morning) | |||
| might have crashed again though | 14:01 | ||
| no, it works | |||
| lichtkind: pingeling | |||
| lichtkind | :) | ||
| viklund: no i still get internal error | 14:02 | ||
| when i save the new created page | 14:03 | ||
| viklund | hmm, didnt know about thet | ||
| viklund checks | |||
| lichtkind | or he maybe couldnt create the page | ||
| because you everytime get this page iy you want to look at some nonexisting page | 14:04 | ||
| a nice disclaimer would also be good | |||
| viklund | ahh | ||
| now I get the error and I've found the new pages in the storage... | 14:06 | ||
| hmm, | |||
| lichtkind | viklund: what also bugs me that even when i hover the edit button i see it like to call the command: november-wiki.org/edit/Action%20Not%20found | ||
| zarah | lichtkind's link is also tinyurl.com/ouvgat | ||
| viklund | huh? | 14:07 | |
| strange | |||
| lichtkind | i think there is the root problem | ||
| cu i have relally to move | |||
| viklund | I went to the nonexistent page november-wiki.org/view/FooBar | ||
| zarah | viklund's link is also tinyurl.com/pmr9vq | 14:08 | |
| viklund | And when I hover over the edit button I get november-wiki.org/edit/FooBar | ||
| zarah | viklund's link is also tinyurl.com/po383d | ||
| viklund | what do you get? | ||
| I know... | 14:09 | ||
| try to relogin now... | |||
| that might do smth... | |||
| lichtkind: you know what, I will look into this tonight, and then I mean night, I don't really have time now, thanks for discovering this... | 14:13 | ||
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| lichtkind | viklund: are you back? | 21:04 | |
| viklund | lichtkind: now I am | 21:18 | |
| lichtkind | good | ||
| viklund | im going to look into it now | ||
| lichtkind | maybe we get something doen :) | ||
| viklund | yes, but I need to reboot, just a mom | 21:19 | |
| lichtkind | im prepared to fight some bugs | ||
| im german :) | |||
| viklund | I've noticed that ;) | ||
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| viklund | right, now I can start | 21:22 | |
| lichtkind | good | 21:24 | |
| so my problem was i wanted to create a page: "Perl_6" | |||
| but i cant press edit | |||
| viklund | yes | ||
| I'm on that one | 21:25 | ||
| hmm | 21:26 | ||
| lichtkind | what? | 21:28 | |
| viklund | might have found what it is... | 21:29 | |
| nope | 21:30 | ||
| I get the error: 'method format not found for incocant of class Str' | 21:31 | ||
| but format is only used once that I can see... | |||
| ahh, edited in the wrong checkout... | 21:32 | ||
| for some reason I have checked november out in several places on the server... | |||
| try now! | 21:35 | ||
| lichtkind: I think that at least works... | |||
| lichtkind | viklund: can you tell what went wrong? | 21:36 | |
| viklund | hmm, we really need to patch this up | ||
| Previously we had pluggable markups | |||
| lichtkind | ehats this? | ||
| viklund | it was configured via a string | ||
| oh, you could choose if you wanted MediaWiki style markup or some other kind | |||
| we have 2 | |||
| lichtkind | i like this /edit ... /view url syntax | ||
| viklund | ;) | 21:37 | |
| it's ihrd++ | |||
| lichtkind | whats this? | ||
| viklund | ihrd? He's a programmer from Vladivostok. | ||
| lichtkind | im fluent in mediawiki and twiki and podwiki syntax | ||
| ahh | |||
| viklund | anyway, we had a string that was $markup = "Text::...::MediaWiki" | 21:38 | |
| then we did $markup.new() | |||
| and that worked on an earlier rakudo, but apparently that was a bug | |||
| now it's not pluggable in that sense anymore, might implement it as a role instead... | |||
| lichtkind | im pretty excited to build a good wiki because in perl 6 you cant implement something fast and i know what i need :) | 21:39 | |
| viklund | Wiki does MediaWikiMarkup or smth... | ||
| I didn't understand you there... | |||
| lichtkind | viklund: i said i pretty heavy wiki user and know therfore what would easy things | 21:40 | |
| viklund | ah | ||
| lichtkind: are you doing anything now, we seem to have some problems with the Perl6 and Perl_6 pages, I'm thinking of removing them | |||
| lichtkind | viklund: i am main editor of perl related things in german wikipedia | ||
| viklund | are you ok with that | 21:41 | |
| Tene | where is zarah? | ||
| lichtkind | remove them | ||
| Tene | :( no more zarah | ||
| viklund | *gone* | ||
| lichtkind | viklund: there are also some things wikiweise did right you could borg into your system | ||
| viklund | Tene: Yes, that's a pitty | 21:42 | |
| wikiweise?? | |||
| lichtkind | viklund: its a german wikipedia spinoff with java based software | ||
| viklund: www.wikiweise.de/ | |||
| viklund | Besser zu Wissen! | 21:43 | |
| ahh | |||
| lichtkind | :) | ||
| means better to know :) | |||
| viklund | That much german I understand | ||
| lichtkind | good | ||
| viklund | lichtkind: are there any other problems that are imediate stoppers right now? | 21:44 | |
| lichtkind | mom i try again to create a page | ||
| viklund: i get another Internal Server Error when try to save | 21:48 | ||
| viklund | save what page | ||
| hmm | |||
| lichtkind | Perl_6 | ||
| viklund | strange... | ||
| hmm | 21:49 | ||
| ah, if I turn of caching everything will break ;) | |||
| that's why MainPage works | |||
| hehe | |||
| lichtkind | i also tried Perl but that also doesnt save | 21:50 | |
| viklund | I updated rakudo and parrot on the server... | ||
| you won't be able to view a page right now that's not already in the cache... | |||
| lichtkind | k | 21:51 | |
| viklund | hmm | 21:53 | |
| lichtkind: I think the problem has to do with certain characters, like non ascii or smth... | 21:57 | ||
| I shortened the Perl_6 article to only the first part, and now it renders | |||
| I'm going to make another test before I'm certain | |||
| lichtkind | viklund: but the first version was simply copy of the main page | 21:59 | |
| so it should be work | |||
| viklund | not necessarily... | ||
| I've updated rakudo you know... | 22:00 | ||
| Actually, in the source of that one we have used "— Larry Wall" | 22:01 | ||
| it is an encoding problem somewhere, I don't know exactly what it is though | 22:02 | ||
| lichtkind | why you have problems with encoding i thougt perl 6 is utf by default | 22:03 | |
| viklund | ahh, but we don't seem to speak the same encoding somewhere | 22:04 | |
| I don't know how these things work that well | |||
| HA! | 22:05 | ||
| dang | 22:06 | ||
| lichtkind | ??? | 22:07 | |
| viklund | I thought I could do it | 22:08 | |
| It might have something to do with how we parse the request string, we might do a silent assumption there that it's ascii or something... | |||
| that's the best explanation I have at the moment... | 22:09 | ||
| I can reproduce your exact error by the way | |||
| lesson is: for now, stay away from anything not in ascii, if you want do do that fancy long - use — | |||
| lichtkind | i can wait a week and translate the perl 6 tut i put yesterday online | ||
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| viklund | oh, you can probably put most stuff up, just not things with long dashes in them ;) | 22:10 | |
| lichtkind | what are long dashes? | 22:11 | |
| viklund | oh, the - you see before Larry Wall on the main page for example | ||
| lichtkind | the only 2 spot where i see larry ist after " -- " | 22:14 | |
| viklund | yes, that's the dashes | ||
| lichtkind | the minuses? | 22:15 | |
| viklund | if you want to call them that, yes | ||
| (I prefer to use the word dash, minus is for math) | |||
| lichtkind | why make there a problem? | 22:16 | |
| viklund | the dash on the main page is a unicode character | ||
| 3 bytes | |||
| lichtkind | isnt dash in ASCII ? | 22:17 | |
| viklund | the short dash, yes | ||
| but not that long one | |||
| There are several different dashes you know | |||
| and a long one is a " says " dash | |||
| (I guess) | |||
| lichtkind | ah i understand | 22:18 | |
| thanks | 22:20 | ||
| viklund: please look if i type november-wiki.org/Perl | 23:24 | ||
| then hover over the menu | |||
| the "this page" menu | |||
| also when entering november-wiki.org/view/Perl why do internal server error when a page "do you wnat to edit?" would be nicerß | 23:26 | ||