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2009 -- the year of November. <november-wiki.org> <github.com/viklund/november> <irclog.perlgeek.de/november-wiki> <nopaste.snit.ch> Set by moderator on 24 July 2009. |
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| masak | labs.kraih.com/blog/2009/07/perl-is-awesome.html | 10:05 | |
| zarah | masak's link is also tinyurl.com/ktktjx | ||
| eiro | ideas for Web.pm ? | 10:08 | |
| :) | |||
| hello world | |||
| masak | eiro: not just an idea -- we're actually building our version of that one. | ||
| eiro | how cool is this information! | ||
| masak | eiro: checkout spec/astaire.pod in the Web.pm repo to learn more. | 10:10 | |
| eiro | that is: i can reuse the existing code using Mojolicious::Lite and Moose as 1st step to perl6! | ||
| masak | I would send you a link, but github seems sad at the moment. | ||
| eiro | is there a KiokuDB plan ? | ||
| ok | |||
| masak | eiro: there is not much of a DB plan at all at present. I would like to get something moving, though. | ||
| eiro | ok ... but you enlighted my day! the fact that astaire is a kinda port of Mojolicious::Lite is definitly usefull | 10:11 | |
| masak | actually, both of these are ports of Sinatra. | 10:12 | |
| eiro | lol ... the ruby one ? | ||
| masak | but I expect to be inspired by Mojolicious::List also, if it contains useful Perl-specific changes. | ||
| eiro: yes. | |||
| eiro | \\o/ | ||
| masak | welcome to 2009, where we're language-agnostic and ecumenical. | 10:13 | |
| eiro | yep! | ||
| thanks | |||
| sri_kraih | masak: our most original feature is that Mojolicious::Lite is actually based on Mojolicious, which means applications can grow to well structured MVC webapps with controllers and a separate router ;) | 10:14 | |
| masak | sri_kraih: that does seem intriguing. | 10:15 | |
| eiro | sri_kraih, what is a 'separate router' ? is it the fact that the url dispatching is independant from the framework ? | 10:16 | |
| masak | sri_kraih: I want you to know that I expect to learn a lot from Mojo in general. having everything in one place seems like a good idea to me. | ||
| eiro thought that catalyst and jifty are the 2 heavy champions of the perl webapps | 10:17 | ||
| sri_kraih | separate router means that the actual application code lives in separate classes (controllers) while the router dispatches incoming requests to those classes | ||
| eiro | ok ... thanks | 10:18 | |
| sri_kraih | fyi. i made catalyst and mojo :) | ||
| mojo is my attempt at catalyst2 | 10:19 | ||
| eiro | wow! congrats ... i was thinking about catalyst since its mooseification. Moose + KiokuDB + Catalyst seems to me the best way to write perl webapps today | 10:20 | |
| but i haven't tested it yet. I used CGI::Application and a hand made attempt from the koha communauty (epic fail) | 10:21 | ||
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| arthur-_ | masak: hi | 15:47 | |
| masak | arthur-_: hello | 15:48 | |
| sorry I haven't replied to your latest mail. | |||
| a bit hectic over here with work before vacation. | |||
| arthur-_ | masak: np, i had work to do anyway | ||
| masak | good. | ||
| anyway, my plan is to have a spec HTML renderer in place Real Soon Now. | 15:49 | ||
| possibly even today. | |||
| eiro | is there a httpd abstraction in perl (as ruby rack?) | 16:18 | |
| masak | eiro: yes, that's what Web.pm _is_. | 16:20 | |
| (a port of Rack) | 16:21 | ||
| eiro | masak, not at all (as i understand it) | 16:22 | |
| because Web.pm uses HTTP::Daemon | |||
| masak | yes, but moving away from it as any kind of default. | 16:23 | |
| eiro | masak, ok .. gc | ||
| masak | I'm a bit conflicted over that, because I like the full-stack idea also. | ||
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| eiro | pastebin.com/f6e71b527 | 16:35 | |
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| :( | |||
| Tene | ENOMASAK | 16:43 | |
| eiro | lol ... i quote it ! | 16:51 | |
| sri_kraih, is it easy to replace *.epl by *.tt2 in Mojolicious::Lite | 17:21 | ||
| ? | |||
| sri_kraih | quite easy, but templates have to be in external files | 17:22 | |
| eiro | internal files? you mean in the tree ? | 17:23 | |
| ookk | |||
| external | |||
| sure : | |||
| something to code or only parameters ? | 17:24 | ||
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