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Set by moderator on 9 November 2008.
09:07 masak joined
masak hello 09:16
zarah hi masak
moritz_ hi there 09:18
masak moritz_: hullo.
how's it going?
moritz_ reading books and papers like there's no tomorrow 09:19
masak on what? physics?
moritz_ yes
masak moritz_++
masak is currently reading a set of speeches by Chairman Mao 09:20
moritz_ "field theories of condensed matter systems", scary stuff
masak ooh, field theories!
I don't know what it is, but it sounds nice.
moritz_ same here ;) 09:21
masak is a field like a space full of vectors?
moritz_ yes
masak good. I'm a believer of the Geisha Theory of conversation. 09:22
i.e. that's all I need to know :P
(for now)
moritz_ but most things I've read so far about field theory are more about algebra than about fields ;)
masak means to an end :) 09:23
moritz_ masak: what's that theory?
masak just something I just made up.
moritz_ explain
masak as I understand it, geishas were excellent conversationalists.
they managed this by knowing a little about everything. 09:24
I've always found that knowing a little about something helps open up interesting conversations.
moritz_ that's certainly right 09:25
masak moritz_: latest November news, by the way: I'm hacking away on the MediaWiki markup, Ilya is doing some cool dispatcher thing, and Johan is investigating how to do plugins. 09:27
moritz_ nice
masak yes, I think so. 09:28
progress on all fronts, albeit irregular.
moritz_ I've heard somebody saying that action stubs work in rakudo
is that true?
masak moritz_: yes.
it surprised me as well.
moritz_ masak: are you using that? is there an example somewhere?
masak I can nopaste an example for you. 09:29
hold on.
moritz_ holds on
masak nopaste.snit.ch/14646 09:30
pmichaud++
moritz_: allegedly, ihrd++ is using it in his dispatch branch as well. haven't looked at that, though.
moritz_ that's way cool.
masak indeed. 09:31
moritz_ "dispatch brunch" ;)
masak mm ;)
moritz_ maybe I should give HTML::Template another shot with it
masak aye, definitely. 09:32
but remember that we already have new-html-template
...which will replace the old version after the lex horriblenesses are fixed
moritz_ my hope is that with action stubs we even get around the lex horriblenesses 09:34
masak possibly.
moritz_ because we don't need to recurse
masak I haven't got a full intuition for that.
moritz_ (which is much more elegant, hopefully)
masak maybe by passing around a bit of state, yes.
(possibly through $/, even) 09:35
moritz_ does rakudo do temp values yet? 09:37
masak rakudo: temp $a = 5; say $a
moritz_ rakudo: my $x = 4; temp $x; say $x
p6eval rakudo 32929: OUTPUT[Scope not found for PAST::Var '$a'␤current instr.: 'parrot;PCT;HLLCompiler;panic' pc 152 (src/PCT/HLLCompiler.pir:104)␤]
rakudo 32929: OUTPUT[Could not find non-existent sub temp␤current instr.: '_block11' pc 43 (EVAL_12:22)␤]
masak nope. 09:38
moritz_ apparently ;)
viklund ohla 09:57
masak viklund: y0
masak is studying, hence restless
my studying-mate is one hour and a half late. 09:58
viklund ahh 09:59
so you're doing some hacking
masak nah, just thinking about it.
viklund ;)
masak there's this speech by Mao I have to finish reading.
viklund I'm considering hacking a little bit more on the pluginsystem tomorrow morning 10:00
masak viklund++
looking forward to that.
viklund it is very simple to make something that could be used for the simple stuff like tags and stuff 10:01
masak cool.
I'm making headway in the skins department. will probably have something to show this week. 10:02
viklund might take 2 hours (plus the time it takes working around Rakudo bugs)
masak++
masak viklund: yeah, the time taken working around Rakudo bugs has ruined my @plan estimates :) 10:06
@plan old nvm
zarah masak: nvm/mediawiki-paragraphs-and-headings: 30 m planned, 1 h 48 m elapsed
masak: nvm/mediawiki-tests: 5 h planned, 2 h 31 m elapsed
masak still a bit more to do on those tests. 10:07
viklund ;)
masak @plan nvm/mediawiki-links 1h 10:09
zarah masak: Planned task 'nvm/mediawiki-links' for 1 h.
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masak hi 12:28
zarah hi masak
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masak OH HAI 20:43
zarah hi masak
masak blogs
@plan nvm 21:16
zarah masak: nvm/mediawiki-links: 1 h planned
masak @start mediawiki-links
zarah masak: Starting task 'nvm/mediawiki-links'.
masak @stop 21:58
zarah masak: Stopping task 'nvm/mediawiki-links' at 41 m out of 1 h (68%).
masak phew.
I think I have found two bugs :)
moritz_ only? ;-) 22:00
masak zarah: slap moritz_
zarah kicks moritz_ in the fork
masak botsnack 22:01
zarah ;)
moritz_ that *hurt* 22:02
masak moritz_: sorry, I have this incontrollable urge sometimes...
moritz_ ;) 22:03
masak use.perl.org/~masak/journal/37914 23:00
zarah masak's link is also tinyurl.com/6223ka