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November -- doing stuff in Perl 6 in the time before Christmas. <november-wiki.org> <github.com/viklund/november> <irclog.perlgeek.de/november-wiki> <nopaste.snit.ch> Set by moderator on 14 December 2008. |
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| masak | ugh, I've forgotten how to clone git so that I can push commits to it. | 00:57 | |
| moritz_ | @tell masak the 'tests' target in Makefile should depend on all | 09:34 | |
| zarah | Consider it noted. | ||
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| masak | ᐛ | 14:14 | |
| moritz_ | \\N{CANADIAN SYLLABICS NASKAPI WAA} | 14:15 | |
| masak | aye. | ||
| a very cute symbol, if you ask me. | |||
| moritz_ | not in my font :( | ||
| masak | well, not in mine either, but I can see it through the Unicode info page. | 14:16 | |
| moritz_ | I always thought that in Canda they'd speak English and French, and use the latin alphabet | 14:21 | |
| masak | sure, but not the indigenous peoples. | ||
| "Naskapi" apparently means "people beyond the horizon" | 14:22 | ||
| moritz_ | www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=731528 that's kind of question I like ;-) | 14:23 | |
| zarah | moritz_'s link is also tinyurl.com/52u7sn | ||
| masak | sounds interesting. I've heard the terms FDA and NDA mentioned on #perl6 during the past year, and I sorta know what it's about. | 14:24 | |
| but I don't grok it yet. | |||
| moritz_: oh, and you apparently knew the solution to that problem, too! now I've learned something today. :) | 14:26 | ||
| moritz_ | actually it's "NFA" and "DFA" ;) | ||
| masak | oh yes -- pardon me. | 14:27 | |
| moritz_ | he did it wrong in his post as well | ||
| masak | heh | ||
| moritz_ | the problem was just that .* went over the delimiters he wanted to match | ||
| masak | a common problem, I guess. | 14:28 | |
| .* is almost always too greedy for people's purposes. | |||
| moritz_ | aye, and nearly always wrong | ||
| masak | mm | ||
| moritz_ | www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=24640 for that matter | 14:29 | |
| zarah | moritz_'s link is also tinyurl.com/6lmdgx | ||
| masak likes Ovid | 14:30 | ||
| ...and Aristotle, and chromatic. | |||
| I almost always enjoy their blog posts. | |||
| moritz_ | same here | 14:35 | |
| pity I've met only one of them in real life, and only very briefly | |||
| masak | I wonder what background chromatic has that makes him such a good writer. | ||
| moritz_ | I just know that he studied music or something similar | 14:37 | |
| maybe it helps to be not a die-hard science guy from the beginning ;) | |||
| and as with everything else, it's a lot of practice you need | |||
| masak | certainly. | 14:38 | |
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| ihrd | hi there | 15:44 | |
| moritz_ | an ihrd! | 15:45 | |
| masak | ihrd: hi! | 16:10 | |
| Tene: you here too? | |||
| ihrd | masak: hi | 16:18 | |
| I do config file now | |||
| masak | ihrd: great. | ||
| afk | |||
| ihrd | Jeff send his diff to me | ||
| I merge it, and reviewing now | 16:19 | ||
| masak | ah. | 16:21 | |
| I've been away from November development for a while now, mostly due to studies. but now I see myself coming back to it. | |||
| ihrd | good | 16:24 | |
| Jeff do Config class, it get hash from file, and have method for each key | 16:26 | ||
| it looks not so good for my | |||
| because if we want to add one more param we should add one more method | 16:27 | ||
| masak | ihrd: yes, that doesn't sound very good to me either. | 16:28 | |
| ihrd | mb we can do something like p5 AUTOLOAD | ||
| but I do not know how that can be done in p6 | |||
| masak | can't we just use a hash? | ||
| ihrd | O, good | ||
| masak | a config object sounds like a hash to me. | ||
| ihrd | yay, but Jeff idea to use | 16:29 | |
| Config.param_name | |||
| in November | |||
| masak hasn't looked closely at Config | |||
| maybe that's what I'll do tonight or tomorrow | 16:30 | ||
| ihrd | It`s look good, but if I understand right Rakudo do instance for each of it | ||
| so, mb it is not so good | |||
| masak | no, maybe not. | 16:32 | |
| ihrd | I mean Rakudo instance object for each Class.method | 16:33 | |
| and | |||
| my $.content_path = Config.server_root ~ 'data/articles/'; | |||
| my $.modifications_path = Config.server_root ~ 'data/modifications/'; | |||
| my $.recent_changes_path = Config.server_root ~ 'data/recent-changes'; | |||
| my $.index_path = Config.server_root ~ 'data/index'; | |||
| four Config objects | |||
| mb | |||
| masak | ...and it's lengthy :/ | 16:34 | |
| and repetitive. | |||
| given Config.server_root { | |||
| my $.content_path = $_ ~ 'data/articles/'; | 16:35 | ||
| ihrd | hm | ||
| masak | # ... | ||
| } | |||
| :) | |||
| ihrd | more perl6ish | ||
| masak | but it feels like the real problem might be deeper than that. | 16:36 | |
| ihrd | I think Config should be singleton, many instance of it -- bad idea | 16:42 | |
| masak | perhaps. | ||
| I don't like that we suddenly have classes with names like Config. | 16:43 | ||
| ihrd | instance of object, and read full config every time... brrr | ||
| masak | it goes against the idea of having clear, CPAN-like names. | ||
| ihrd: oh, is 'brrr' an expression of mild disgust? I never understood that before. | 16:44 | ||
| I thought it only expressed confusion. | |||
| ihrd | Oh, sorry. Yes you understand right | ||
| masak | no need to apologise. I'm just curious. | 16:45 | |
| I'm reading your blog. are there protests in Vladivostok? about what? | 16:46 | ||
| must go now. | |||
| I'll be online tomorrow, possibly hacking November. | 16:47 | ||
| ihrd | Oh. Yes, we have problems here, in Vladivostok | 16:48 | |
| o. ok | |||
| bb | |||
| masak | see you | 16:49 | |
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