2009 -- the year of November. <november-wiki.org> <github.com/viklund/november> <irclog.perlgeek.de/november-wiki> <nopaste.snit.ch>
Set by moderator on 27 May 2009.
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lichtkind why was november down? 13:45
viklund I cleaned up my directory on feather, the skins directory were symlinked to an old copy of november that I didn't think was used foranything... 13:46
lichtkind viklund: i got internal server error when i tried to create a new page 13:49
The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request. 13:50
and so on
thats the crux with having users :) 13:51
viklund yes, the reason was I had *misstakanely* removed the skins directory... 13:54
lichtkind so give me ping when thats fixed i move in town now 13:57
viklund its fixed 14:00
since this morning
(or at least worked again this morning)
might have crashed again though 14:01
no, it works
lichtkind: pingeling
lichtkind :)
viklund: no i still get internal error 14:02
when i save the new created page 14:03
viklund hmm, didnt know about thet
viklund checks
lichtkind or he maybe couldnt create the page
because you everytime get this page iy you want to look at some nonexisting page 14:04
a nice disclaimer would also be good
viklund ahh
now I get the error and I've found the new pages in the storage... 14:06
hmm,
lichtkind viklund: what also bugs me that even when i hover the edit button i see it like to call the command: november-wiki.org/edit/Action%20Not%20found
zarah lichtkind's link is also tinyurl.com/ouvgat
viklund huh? 14:07
strange
lichtkind i think there is the root problem
cu i have relally to move
viklund I went to the nonexistent page november-wiki.org/view/FooBar
zarah viklund's link is also tinyurl.com/pmr9vq 14:08
viklund And when I hover over the edit button I get november-wiki.org/edit/FooBar
zarah viklund's link is also tinyurl.com/po383d
viklund what do you get?
I know... 14:09
try to relogin now...
that might do smth...
lichtkind: you know what, I will look into this tonight, and then I mean night, I don't really have time now, thanks for discovering this... 14:13
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lichtkind viklund: are you back? 21:04
viklund lichtkind: now I am 21:18
lichtkind good
viklund im going to look into it now
lichtkind maybe we get something doen :)
viklund yes, but I need to reboot, just a mom 21:19
lichtkind im prepared to fight some bugs
im german :)
viklund I've noticed that ;)
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viklund right, now I can start 21:22
lichtkind good 21:24
so my problem was i wanted to create a page: "Perl_6"
but i cant press edit
viklund yes
I'm on that one 21:25
hmm 21:26
lichtkind what? 21:28
viklund might have found what it is... 21:29
nope 21:30
I get the error: 'method format not found for incocant of class Str' 21:31
but format is only used once that I can see...
ahh, edited in the wrong checkout... 21:32
for some reason I have checked november out in several places on the server...
try now! 21:35
lichtkind: I think that at least works...
lichtkind viklund: can you tell what went wrong? 21:36
viklund hmm, we really need to patch this up
Previously we had pluggable markups
lichtkind ehats this?
viklund it was configured via a string
oh, you could choose if you wanted MediaWiki style markup or some other kind
we have 2
lichtkind i like this /edit ... /view url syntax
viklund ;) 21:37
it's ihrd++
lichtkind whats this?
viklund ihrd? He's a programmer from Vladivostok.
lichtkind im fluent in mediawiki and twiki and podwiki syntax
ahh
viklund anyway, we had a string that was $markup = "Text::...::MediaWiki" 21:38
then we did $markup.new()
and that worked on an earlier rakudo, but apparently that was a bug
now it's not pluggable in that sense anymore, might implement it as a role instead...
lichtkind im pretty excited to build a good wiki because in perl 6 you cant implement something fast and i know what i need :) 21:39
viklund Wiki does MediaWikiMarkup or smth...
I didn't understand you there...
lichtkind viklund: i said i pretty heavy wiki user and know therfore what would easy things 21:40
viklund ah
lichtkind: are you doing anything now, we seem to have some problems with the Perl6 and Perl_6 pages, I'm thinking of removing them
lichtkind viklund: i am main editor of perl related things in german wikipedia
viklund are you ok with that 21:41
Tene where is zarah?
lichtkind remove them
Tene :( no more zarah
viklund *gone*
lichtkind viklund: there are also some things wikiweise did right you could borg into your system
viklund Tene: Yes, that's a pitty 21:42
wikiweise??
lichtkind viklund: its a german wikipedia spinoff with java based software
viklund: www.wikiweise.de/
viklund Besser zu Wissen! 21:43
ahh
lichtkind :)
means better to know :)
viklund That much german I understand
lichtkind good
viklund lichtkind: are there any other problems that are imediate stoppers right now? 21:44
lichtkind mom i try again to create a page
viklund: i get another Internal Server Error when try to save 21:48
viklund save what page
hmm
lichtkind Perl_6
viklund strange...
hmm 21:49
ah, if I turn of caching everything will break ;)
that's why MainPage works
hehe
lichtkind i also tried Perl but that also doesnt save 21:50
viklund I updated rakudo and parrot on the server...
you won't be able to view a page right now that's not already in the cache...
lichtkind k 21:51
viklund hmm 21:53
lichtkind: I think the problem has to do with certain characters, like non ascii or smth... 21:57
I shortened the Perl_6 article to only the first part, and now it renders
I'm going to make another test before I'm certain
lichtkind viklund: but the first version was simply copy of the main page 21:59
so it should be work
viklund not necessarily...
I've updated rakudo you know... 22:00
Actually, in the source of that one we have used "&mdash; Larry Wall" 22:01
it is an encoding problem somewhere, I don't know exactly what it is though 22:02
lichtkind why you have problems with encoding i thougt perl 6 is utf by default 22:03
viklund ahh, but we don't seem to speak the same encoding somewhere 22:04
I don't know how these things work that well
HA! 22:05
dang 22:06
lichtkind ??? 22:07
viklund I thought I could do it 22:08
It might have something to do with how we parse the request string, we might do a silent assumption there that it's ascii or something...
that's the best explanation I have at the moment... 22:09
I can reproduce your exact error by the way
lesson is: for now, stay away from anything not in ascii, if you want do do that fancy long - use &mdash;
lichtkind i can wait a week and translate the perl 6 tut i put yesterday online
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viklund oh, you can probably put most stuff up, just not things with long dashes in them ;) 22:10
lichtkind what are long dashes? 22:11
viklund oh, the - you see before Larry Wall on the main page for example
lichtkind the only 2 spot where i see larry ist after " -- " 22:14
viklund yes, that's the dashes
lichtkind the minuses? 22:15
viklund if you want to call them that, yes
(I prefer to use the word dash, minus is for math)
lichtkind why make there a problem? 22:16
viklund the dash on the main page is a unicode character
3 bytes
lichtkind isnt dash in ASCII ? 22:17
viklund the short dash, yes
but not that long one
There are several different dashes you know
and a long one is a " says " dash
(I guess)
lichtkind ah i understand 22:18
thanks 22:20
viklund: please look if i type november-wiki.org/Perl 23:24
then hover over the menu
the "this page" menu
also when entering november-wiki.org/view/Perl why do internal server error when a page "do you wnat to edit?" would be nicerß 23:26