2009 -- the year of November. <november-wiki.org> <github.com/viklund/november> <irclog.perlgeek.de/november-wiki> <nopaste.snit.ch>
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eiro hello november 08:09
masak oh hai eiro 08:11
I looked into setting up a smartlinks HTML renderer yesterday. it seems doable. 08:23
szabgab: you've packaged Text::SmartLinks for CPAN, haven't you?
szabgab yes
masak szabgab: in your opinion, could I use that one, or should I tailor my own? 08:24
szabgab after doing that I had second thoughts about the whole smartlinks business, I though it might be better to link to X<> tags in the pods
that would of course require adding X<> tags in many places but maybe that would be an advantage in any case 08:25
I'd say give it a ride and fix anything you think should be fixed
masak that's my plan. 08:26
szabgab the source is still in the pugs repo and I give you co-maintainer on CPAN so you can upload new versions too
masak ooh!
don't know yet if I will, but thanks.
biggest difference is, I think, that my Pod is Perl 6 Pod.
feels silly to use POD for a Perl 6 app suite.
szabgab it should be able to handle perl6 pod as well 08:27
masak even render it?
szabgab I don't remember, one of the specs is in Perl 6 pod
masak yes, S26.
szabgab so there is some if() for that
masak oh well, I'll try it and see how far I get.
szabgab in any case I think it is better to fix the one that is also used by P6 than to create a new one 08:28
I don't have any sentimental attachments to that one :-)
masak good :) 08:30
szabgab btw regardng proto I thought to add 'help' and 'list' to list projects 08:34
if you are ok with that
masak sounds fine. 08:35
I'm slightly wary about 'list', but might accept it. 08:36
yes, it's fine.
my initial reaction to feature requests for proto is 'nonono, no more features!' :)
but both of these seem to be beneficial, and won't require any significant new architecture. 08:37
szabgab nothing really, just two new methods
masak I guess 'list' should have the same syntax as 'install'. 08:39
szabgab for now I just though of a single list command
that lists all the registered ones
and help will just replace the Available commands .... text 08:40
masak szabgab: well, 'list' will at least have to support things like 'list installed'.
szabgab ah, that could be interesting too, I just though about list available 08:41
so I won't have to read the project.list file :-)
masak :) 08:42
szabgab anyway I'll try to do the help now, and then go back to the things I should really do
masak szabgab++
szabgab such as preparing for my perl 6 class in Lisbon 08:43
masak szabgab: I'll come to your class, by the way. 08:46
szabgab the 2 days long training ? 08:48
masak yes, the one on Saturday-Sunday. 08:49
finally I get to learn Perl 6!
szabgab and you have paid ? 08:50
masak oh, I didn't know I should.
how much is it? how do I pay?
szabgab it costs 220 EURO but I would not dare to accept money from you, except of the cost to of the room 08:51
which is 20 EURO
masak :)
szabgab I mean you know about 100 times more about Perl 6 than I do
masak I'll process this information, and see what I decide to do.
szabgab I'd love if you were in the class (again :-) 08:52
as someone would actually help me out
masak in that case, I'd love to come.
szabgab but really I have no clue about P6 compared to you
masak like pmichaud and TimToady, I like to see Perl 6 being taught.
szabgab It would be actually fun to see both of those too coming in the class 08:53
but you have already see me faking it once
masak szabgab: I think you overestimate the difference between our Perl 6 skills. I think the difference between the two of us is mainly that I've written more module code.
szabgab you are probably right 08:54
masak it's really interesting to see Perl 6 education taking shape.
szabgab it maybe it is only 10 times more
masak anyway, I'll gladly pay 20 EUR to attend.
szabgab leave that
we have a beer together
masak as you wish. :)
szabgab in some expensive country :-) 08:55
masak :)
szabgab but I have a question, how would you draw an image from Perl 6 ? 08:56
eiro szabgab, szabgab my own approach would be: 08:57
hack the Tags module to support SVG
use it
masak szabgab: use.perl.org/~masak/journal/39152
zarah masak's link is also tinyurl.com/mzzged
eiro write an xslt to convert svg yo html canevas :) 08:58
masak eiro: there's also a useable SVG module already out there.
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eiro wow :) cool 08:58
well .. it's a part of druid
3D! awsome :) 08:59
masak :)
I really hope to make some headway with Druid-for-Web.pm.
I think people will start to play it when it's playable through a web interface.
(and I'm longing for worthy opponents) 09:00
szabgab very nice 09:05
I'll give it a try
masak as usual, any feedback is welcome. there's a Daniel Schroeer who has helped me improve the SVG module, but as usual, there's much more to be done. 09:07
szabgab masak, btw szabgab.com/blog/2009/07/1248597502.html 09:09
zarah szabgab's link is also tinyurl.com/mx28ne
masak szabgab: cool! 09:11
eiro masak, why don't try html canevas ? it would be cool to add animations 09:18
masak eiro: it would indeed. feel free to try anything you have time for. 09:22
eiro masak, yep... i read an experiment Web.pm when i have some minutes to do it :) 09:24
step by step is better than nothing :)
but definitly: perl6 is *much* better than perl5 is
masak eiro: but still lacking in libraries.
eiro masak, sure ... frustrating me a lot :) 09:47
masak eiro: aye. 09:48
it's also a challenge and an opportunity, though.
szabgab in URI.pm there is a line @!chunks = undef; 09:54
which is I think should be @!chunks = ();
masak yes, that sounds reasonable. 09:55
szabgab hmm, in the rest of the code an empty sting is pushed as the first element of that array
let me try to read it to the end 09:56
masak :)
that's ihrd++'s code, methinks.
szabgab yes
just checked .git/config
hmm the chunks accessor is heavily used in tests but not elsewhere and it is not documented either 09:58
hmm, I see I can configure proto to try to use the developer git url but if I don't have commit bit on a code and would like to fork it on github and then tell proto to fetch it from that fork ? 10:01
ihrd, and i don't understand why do you need to clear the string before parsing it ? 10:03
(just to be on the first 5 lines of the code :-)
masak szabgab: proto doesn't support forked repositories. 10:04
szabgab: you can, however, download the forked repo manually, and then use proto to update it as usual.
szabgab ty 10:05
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eiro masak, sure it's an opportunity ... when you have time :) 10:30
masak eiro: well, I didn't just mean it that way. 10:31
eiro: it's also an opportunity to think about what libraries and tools we really need.
eiro masak, yes ... i think a lot, i don't write enought (by lack of time) and this is frustrating me 10:32
but hey: i'll shut up and write :)
masak sounds like a plan. :) 10:35
eiro yep :) 10:42
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