Parrot 2.7.0 "Australian King" Released! | parrot.org Log: irclog.perlgeek.de/parrot/today | Nopaste: nopaste.snit.ch:8001 | close 20 tickets (14 to go), merge outstanding branches
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whiteknight bacek: +1 on #44 00:18
cotto If closed tickets are an indicator of progress, we're making progress. 00:21
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whiteknight yay progress 00:23
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dalek rrot: r48660 | plobsing++ | trunk/tools/dev/pbc_to_exe.pir:
add --output option to pbc_to_exe
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rrot: r48661 | plobsing++ | trunk/tools/dev/pbc_to_exe.pir:
add --help option to pbc_to_exe
moderator Parrot 2.7.0 "Australian King" Released! | parrot.org Log:  irclog.perlgeek.de/parrot/today | Nopaste: nopaste.snit.ch:8001 | close 20 tickets (13 to go), merge outstanding branches 01:38
dalek TT #1398 closed by plobsing++: pbc_to_exe should be able to specify the output files. 01:38
TT #1398: trac.parrot.org/parrot/ticket/1398
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moderator Parrot 2.7.0 "Australian King" Released! | parrot.org Log:  irclog.perlgeek.de/parrot/today | Nopaste: nopaste.snit.ch:8001 | close 20 tickets (12 to go), merge outstanding branches 03:54
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dalek TT #916 closed by plobsing++: Need something like PMCNULL for STRINGs 03:55
TT #916: trac.parrot.org/parrot/ticket/916
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cotto incoming? 04:24
purl duck!
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dalek thub-trac: cf37b89 | ++ | github/github.py:
use proper db query parameterization instead of manually escaping strings
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thub-trac: 0a3cc60 | ++ | github/github.py:
use int for svn_rev column, various minor fixes/improvements
thub-trac: d4ad8ba | ++ | github/github.py:
only call the db once per wiki syntax usage
thub-trac: 581eac4 | ++ | github/github.py:
delete some unused functions
thub-trac: 57ff702 | ++ | github/github.py:
make links look less surprising
thub-trac: 589565e | ++ | github/github.py:
switch to a single path to get info from the db
thub-trac: 0a08eb0 | ++ | github/github.py:
add some debugging statements
04:27
thub-trac: ca959f0 | ++ | github/github.py:
remove an unused function
thub-trac: a66c783 | ++ | github/github.py:
add a config option for long tooltips
thub-trac: 0f6da6f | ++ | github/github.py:
add an explict int cast when checking enable_revmap
cotto Let's see if that fixed it. 04:31
cotto wants to start getting some of that shiny github bot karma.
dalek thub-trac: 6400d3c | cotto++ | README:
expand README a bit
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cotto yay
I just needed to make sure that github knew about the email I had in my ~/.gitconfig
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dalek nxed: r606 | NotFound++ | trunk/ (4 files):
make install target
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NotFound Some fool^h^h^h^h good boy wants to test winxed install? 06:49
purl :)
dalek nxed: r607 | NotFound++ | trunk/winxed_installed.winxed:
fix args passing in installed driver
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mikehh opbots, names 07:57
sorear seen Infinoid 08:15
purl Infinoid was last seen on purl 4 days, 18 hours, 54 minutes and 56 seconds ago, saying: <private message> [Aug 21 13:20:57 2010]
aloha Sorry, I haven't seen Infinoid.
dalek TT #44 closed by bacek++: Move commandline functions out of compilers/imcc/main.c 08:24
TT #44: trac.parrot.org/parrot/ticket/44
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dalek nxed: r608 | NotFound++ | trunk/winxed_installed.winxed:
option -e in installed driver
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dalek TT #1736 closed by bacek++: NQP-rx generates wrong multi signature for :named params 09:15
TT #1736: trac.parrot.org/parrot/ticket/1736
p-rx: 83747bd | bacek++ | / (2 files):
Don't put named (slurpy) parameters into multi-signature. Closes TT #1736
nxed: r609 | NotFound++ | trunk/ (2 files):
rename build driver to winxedrun to avoid possible load_language confusions with
mikehh All tests PASS (pre/post-config, make corevm/make coretest, test, fulltest) at r48661 - Ubuntu 10.04 i386 (g++) 09:17
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smash mornin' 09:22
mikehh hi smash 09:27
dalek nxed: r610 | NotFound++ | trunk/winxed (2 files):
option -c in installed driver
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Infinoid sorear: were you looking for me? 09:56
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dalek rrot: r48662 | mikehh++ | trunk/config/gen/makefiles/root.in:
add tools/dev/mk_language_shell.pl to files in realclean target
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nxed: r611 | NotFound++ | trunk/ (3 files):
put in the repo the generated pir files needed for install
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nxed: r612 | NotFound++ | trunk/winxed.json:
metadata file for plumage
NotFound Someone with plumage commit bits here? 10:17
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dalek rrot: r48663 | mikehh++ | trunk/tools/dev:
set svn:ignore
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rrot: r48664 | mikehh++ | trunk/MANIFEST.SKIP:
re-generate MANIFEST.SKIP
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dalek rrot: r48665 | mikehh++ | failed to fetch changeset:
merge in latest trunk changes to the branch
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whiteknight good morning, #parrot 12:30
arnsholt Moin whiteknight 12:32
masak o/ whiteknight 12:36
whiteknight good morning arnsholt, masak 12:42
how are you two gentlemen doing today?
dalek rrot: r48666 | nwellnhof++ | trunk/src (3 files):
Fix gcdebug runcore

as free list now.
NotFound whiteknight: today is the day that winxed starts world domination. 12:45
masak whiteknight: still a bit weary. my sleep is pretty skewed right now. but I feel fit and healthy. :) 12:53
whiteknight: and you, sir?
Coke jnthn++ # got no credit for the memory leak fix! 12:57
dalek tracwiki: v2 | nwellnhof++ | Fixing%20GC%20Bugs 13:00
tracwiki: trac.parrot.org/parrot/wiki/Fixing%...ction=diff
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whiteknight NotFound: world domination? Do tell 13:14
masak: skewed sleep is no good. But, fit and healthy is good 13:15
NotFound whiteknight: setup and metadata for plumage are ready 13:16
dalek rrot: r48667 | nwellnhof++ | trunk/src/pmc/stringbuilder.pmc:
Small fix to append_format in StringBuilder PMC
rrot: r48668 | NotFound++ | trunk/t/pmc/exception.t:
some more Exception tests
NotFound whiteknight: BTW, you have plumage commit bit, it isn't?
whiteknight NotFound: I do have it, yes. I don't use it much unless there is an emergency because I am not super-familiar with that code 13:20
NotFound whiteknight: just update the winxed.json metadata 13:21
whiteknight: winxed.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/winxed.json 13:22
masak pmichaud: I tried rewriting the patch with named classes yesterday. still segfault. 13:25
whiteknight NotFound: I'll see if I can get to it in a little while 13:35
NotFound whiteknight: thanks 13:36
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mikehh All tests PASS (pre/post-config, make corevm/make coretest, test, fulltest) at r48668 - Ubuntu 10.04 amd64 (g++ with --optimize) 13:51
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mikehh winxed r612 builds on parrot r48688, make test/test1/test2 PASS - Ubuntu 10.04 amd64 (g++ with --optimize) 13:58
and fly.winxed still looks good 14:01
NotFound Good 14:02
Coke tries to at least duplicate masak's segv.
moritz Coke: if you have trouble applying the patch, you can instead use 14:08
git revert f7fdd5120b844c9d60df2e674a6cd84ed2ae2c40
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dalek kudo: df38ac1 | moritz++ | build/PARROT_REVISION:
bump PARROT_REVISION for testing, and to get some few parrot speedups
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GreenM0nk hi all
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moritz good localtime 14:15
Coke where does it segfault? 14:18
no segfault for me with parrot and rakudo latest + patch building rakudo or with ./perl6 -e "'what'.say" 14:19
oh. all the details are in gists instead of attached to the ticket. 14:20
whee, segf. 14:22
whiteknight NotFound: pushed 14:39
NotFound whiteknight: pulled 14:40
whiteknight: an testded. World domination begins! 14:42
whiteknight :)
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dalek rrot-plumage: 152e35f | whiteknight++ | metadata/winxed.json:
Update the winxed.json information. NotFound++
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mikehh rakudo (3a339ee) builds on parrot r48668 - make test PASS, make stresstest (pugs r32107) PASS - Ubuntu 10.04 amd64 (g++ with --optimize) 14:47
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NotFound purl: winxed? 15:07
purl winxed is probably not javascript, just uses a familiar syntax. or code.google.com/p/winxed/ or winxed.org/
NotFound purl: winxed is also plumage install winxed
purl okay, NotFound.
NotFound purl: winxed?
purl winxed is probably not javascript, just uses a familiar syntax. or code.google.com/p/winxed/ or winxed.org/ or plumage install winxed
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dalek rrot: r48669 | mikehh++ | branches/html_cleanup (10 files):
[html_cleanup] merge in latest trunk changes to the branch
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mikehh Coke: how did you generate the diff files in the Trac Wiki for HTML_cleanup branch (I've got the latest html dirs from trunk and branch 15:18
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whiteknight NotFound: I just installed Winxed with plumage. Awesome! 15:43
NotFound whiteknight: World domination, I told you ;) 15:45
smash Coke: may i copy some configuration and script files from your partcl/partcl-nqp ? 15:47
moritz where is an example of a nqp-rx based compiler that uses setup.pir for building? 15:57
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cotto_work ~~ 16:03
dalek rrot: r48670 | Chandon++ | branches/gsoc_threads (154 files):
[gsoc_threads] Merge from trunk.
16:06
tcurtis moritz: squaak uses setup.pir. It may be a bit more simple than you're looking for, though.
moritz tcurtis: actually i found what I was looking for 16:07
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moritz I have a patch that switches lolcode to nqp-rx... it compiles, but doesn't run any tests yet 16:08
and the backtrace points to a PIR line that is a POD comment. Superb.
cotto_work LOLQP? 16:10
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dalek rrot: r48671 | mikehh++ | branches/html_cleanup/docs/index/index.json:
[html_cleanup] fix typo -> pct instead of pir, adds one missing file
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smash mpaste? 16:28
moritz nopaste?
purl rumour has it nopaste is nopaste.snit.ch (works with the script in $_PARROT/tools/dev/nopaste.pl) or paste.scsys.co.uk or www.extpaste.com or gist.github.com or App::Nopaste or codepeek.com/paste/ or (: pastebot)
smash nopaste?
purl nopaste is probably nopaste.snit.ch (works with the script in $_PARROT/tools/dev/nopaste.pl) or paste.scsys.co.uk or www.extpaste.com or gist.github.com or App::Nopaste or codepeek.com/paste/ or (: pastebot)
smash moritz: ty 16:29
moritz urks. Lolcode has a custom parsing method that creates its own match object, and it's not compatible with the nqp-rx ways 16:39
rewriting yarn_literal.pir is over my head 16:40
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cotto_work How big a language is LOLCODE? 17:00
Coke smash;sure. 17:06
mikehh: I did a run of "make html" in branch and trunk, and then did a "diff -r". I think. 17:07
cotto_work: not big.
moritz: that is probably just because it's older.
I think it was one of the first things to try to use nqprx
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dalek rrot: r48672 | Chandon++ | branches/gsoc_threads (6 files):
[gsoc_threads] Use thread local storage for thread id.
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dukeleto 'ello 18:25
GeJ Bonjour everyone.
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dukeleto just updated the github mirror again. still manual for now, as I get the last few kinks out and add docs 18:29
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whiteknight dukeleto++ 18:41
Chandon++
dukeleto whiteknight: please let me know if you see any oddities with the repo. it should be a pristine copy of parrot svn, without any spurious merge commits, like leto/parrot.git had 18:51
dukeleto should rm leto/parrot.git now
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Coke dukeleto: nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo 19:15
jk
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dukeleto Coke: are you still using leto/parrot.git ? 19:24
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Coke nwellnhof++ # WOOT 19:58
dukeleto: no, not all all.
8at
gah. "not at all"
dalek rrot: r48673 | chromatic++ | trunk/src/pmc/bigint.pmc:
[PMC] Added init_int VTABLE to BigInt.
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rrot: r48674 | chromatic++ | trunk/src/pmc/integer.pmc:
[PMC] Used more init_int() in Integer PMC.
rrot: r48675 | chromatic++ | trunk/src/dynoplibs/math.ops:
[dynops] Made cmod use init_int VTABLE.
rrot: r48676 | chromatic++ | trunk/src/pmc/integer.pmc:
[PMC] Optimized Integer cmp() VTABLE.
Coke packy++ 20:05
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cotto_work Wow. nwellnhof++ 20:12
cotto_work wonders what else might be lurking.
dalek rrot: r48677 | nwellnhof++ | trunk/src/pmc/callcontext.pmc:
Fix a potentially nasty bug in the CallContext PMC
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GeJ re-Bonjour everyone. 20:45
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mikehh opbots, names 21:20
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Paul_the_Greek Evening y'all. 21:26
cotto_work hio Paul_the_Greek 21:28
Paul_the_Greek Hey cotto. How are you? 21:29
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cotto_work I've got a thing to hack on, so I'm happy. 21:29
Paul_the_Greek What are you damaging now?
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cotto_work github.com/cotto/github-trac - making the Trac GitHub plugin smart enough to deal with both svn and git commits and urls 21:30
Paul_the_Greek Why does it need to deal with svn? 21:31
cotto_work It'd help if I knew Python before starting, but that doesn't appear to be a prerequisite.
Paul_the_Greek Except for the whitespace thing, it's quite reasonable.
cotto_work so links like r1234 on the wiki and in tickets still work
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Paul_the_Greek But if everything is moved to Git, don't those links have to change? 21:32
cotto_work secretly wishes we were using a Haskell-based project management thingy so he could learn that instead.
Paul_the_Greek Trac is written in Python? Git in C? 21:33
cotto_work they don't have to if the plugin is smart enough to know that r46801 should link to github.com/parrot/parrot/commit/7dd...0874cff18d
sorear git is written with mostly C, bash, and Perl 5.0
cotto_work yes
Paul_the_Greek I don't think you'll have any problem with Python, except when you put debugging statements in column 1. 21:35
cotto_work so far so good
I'm expecting it to be ready for playing with by next #ps, or so I keep telling people. 21:36
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Paul_the_Greek It's the else moving in and out and changing which if it goes with that makes me crazy. 21:36
Especially since loops take else also.
cotto_work Loops take else? That's crazy talk. 21:37
Paul_the_Greek Oh yes, and it's a reasonable feature. I'm considering putting it in Hearsay.
The else is executed if the loop drops through, but not if it's break'ed. 21:38
cotto_work I'm putting it in Heresy.
Paul_the_Greek I probably won't include it, though.
cotto_work I won't plan on using it.
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Paul_the_Greek Just don't let an else wander out a few columns and suddenly be attached to a loop. That'll confuse you. 21:39
particle let's hope they're not using perl 5.0 for git....
Paul_the_Greek Sorear thinks they do.
sorear actually I think it's more like 5.005 21:40
there's a move to remove the perl from git
because they have serious backcompat requrirements 21:41
and it makes the code quite ugly
Paul_the_Greek Why does backcompat matter with Perl? Ugly is another issue.
cotto_work: I like Hearsay versus Heresy. I'll be stealing that. 21:43
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Paul_the_Greek Be back later. 21:46
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darbelo \\o 21:54
cotto_work o/ 21:55
davidfetter \\<>/ 21:59
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darbelo ø 22:02
nwellnhof \\°/ 22:03
i'd like to add some PARROT_ASSERTs to spot bugs like #1746 early on 22:06
but they are a bit expensive
slowing down non-optimized builds 22:07
darbelo We have (had?) some "I'm really ebugging now." macros, IIRC.
cotto_work Nice debugging work. nwellnhof++
nwellnhof i just found DETAIL_MEMORY_DEBUG 22:09
but that only adds some printfs 22:10
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NotFound nwellnhof: don't worry about the speed as long as it remains usable. 22:15
nwellnhof it's still usable 22:16
i think i'll just commit it
darbelo Nevermind, I was thinking of NDEBUG.
nwellnhof if people complain we can add an #ifdef
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davidfetter o/` i'm not a debug i just printf a lot o/` 22:35
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nwellnhof 'make test' without my new assertions: 3m43.711s 22:46
'make test' with my new assertions: 7m11.848s
darbelo Ouch. 22:47
davidfetter hopes darbelo is still interested in pl/parrot 22:48
cotto_work What are the assertions you're adding? 22:54
nwellnhof When something is freed in the fixed size pools 22:57
cotto_work That sounds like it'd happen a lot.
nwellnhof The assertions check if it's a valid pointer that has been allocated from that pool
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cotto_work That sounds like it'd be a reasonably cheap check. 22:58
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cotto_work Can you nopaste? 22:59
whiteknight I can nopaste like a champ 23:00
cotto_work whiteknight: can you nopaste nwellnhof's patch? thanks.
nwellnhof I just made a commit
cotto_work or that
nwellnhof The new assertions are still #ifdef'd out 23:01
darbelo davidfetter: I still am interested, but I got busy with GSoC. And now that's done I got more busy than expected with school.
nwellnhof cotto: the check is pretty expensive because it has to walk through all the arenas of a pool 23:02
davidfetter grinds the corners off some tuits and hands them to darbelo
darbelo Apparently a very helpful person decided that misrepresenting the time commitments for my physics class was a nice thing to do. 23:03
My first class started with: "Oh, yeah and there's four extra hours a week of class time that we forgot to tell you about. Have fun." 23:04
Chandon I'm pretty sure university administration doesn't get paid if anyone is clear on when, where, or how much class there is. 23:07
dalek rrot: r48678 | jkeenan++ | branches/gsoc_threads/MANIFEST:
MANIFEST in this branch was very incomplete. Run 'tools/dev/mk_manifest_and_skip.pl' to refresh and test with 'make manifest_tests'.
rrot: r48679 | nwellnhof++ | trunk (3 files):
Add some debugging assertions for fixed size pools
rrot: r48680 | Chandon++ | branches/gsoc_threads (13 files):
[gsoc_threads] Can now kill blocked threads.
whiteknight darbelo: how did your GSoC project turn out? 23:08
darbelo It went well, but it needs some yak shaving before it can be merged back into trunk.
kid51 Can someone elaborate on the difference between bikeshedding and yak shaving? 23:09
cotto_work bikeshedding?
purl it has been said that bikeshedding is en.wiktionary.org/wiki/bikeshedding
cotto_work yak shaving?
purl i heard yak shaving was at www.ai.mit.edu/lab/gsb/gsb-archive/...02-11.html or when one finds oneself installing Redhat Fedora Core 3 beta9 so that one can get a specific kernel patch so that a sysctl will become available so that xemacs will display a code fold properly. or things you notice need doing, while attempting to do something else, and then get distracted by
cotto_work There you go.
kid51 purl font of all wisdom 23:10
purl kid51: what?
whiteknight kid51: one of them involves significantly less yak 23:14
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nopaste "GeJ" at 192.168.1.3 pasted "Rework t/codingstd/c_operator.t to show the error lines instead of just the number of errors." (39 lines) at nopaste.snit.ch/23163 23:21
"GeJ" at 192.168.1.3 pasted "Fix coding tests" (13 lines) at nopaste.snit.ch/23164
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GeJ Currently, t/codingstd/c_operator.t reports an error as : got: '1' \\n expected: '0' 23:24
and it doesn't give any information on which file generates the error.
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Coke nwellnhof: do we care if non-optimized builds are slow? 23:26
GeJ the attached patch displays the error as : 23:27
# got: '/usr/home/geraud/code/parrot/src/pmc/integer.pmc at :
# temp = Parrot_pmc_new_init_int(INTERP, enum_class_BigInt,a );'
# expected: ''
Coke purl, nopaste?
purl nopaste is nopaste.snit.ch (works with the script in $_PARROT/tools/dev/nopaste.pl) or paste.scsys.co.uk or www.extpaste.com or gist.github.com or App::Nopaste or codepeek.com/paste/ or (: pastebot)
Coke nudges gej.
GeJ It's probably verbose, but it allowed me to find the error quickly. 23:28
dalek tracwiki: v3 | nwellnhof++ | Fixing%20GC%20Bugs
tracwiki: trac.parrot.org/parrot/wiki/Fixing%...ction=diff
GeJ apologizes sincerely to Coke and the fine #parrot folks.
nwellnhof Coke: I don't know, but the slowdown is quite substantial 23:30
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Coke nwellnhof: fair enough. 23:34
kid51 GeJ: I just did some work on c_operator.t this past weekend. Are you working with latest version? 23:35
GeJ fresh checkout.
I confess I didn't understand the diag(...) part so I just improvised. 23:36
cotto_work nwellnhof: I'm glad to see that --hash-seed is useful to you. Did you have an easy enough time finding out about it? 23:37
kid51 GeJ what revision are you at?
kid51 will try to look at this later
nwellnhof cotto: yeah, didn't take too long
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GeJ kid51_at_dinner: At revision 48680. 23:38
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Coke at dinner at revision at work. 23:49
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GeJ kid51: nopaste.snit.ch/23164 fixes the codingstd tests. 23:53
The c_operator.t patch was just a suggested improvement that helped me find the error.
Coke with irssi, how do I join a discussion on a particular server? 23:56
cotto_work GeJ: it's an improvement. The line number is ideal but your patch at least provides something to grep for.
Coke ehs.
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aloha Coke: bacek asked me to tell you it should work 23:56
cotto_work (well, other than the obvious /,[^ ]/) 23:57
Coke aloha: tell bacek that aloha only tells on join, not on "I said something."
aloha Coke: OK. I'll deliver the message.
Coke aloha, tell bacek that aloha only tells on join, not on "I said something."
aloha Coke: OK. I'll deliver the message.
bacek_at_work Coke, I'll look at it tonight.
cotto_work Why do we need dual messaging bots? 23:58
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cotto_work and dual that