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Parrot 2.9.1 Released | parrot.org | Log: irclog.perlgeek.de/parrot/today | Nopaste: nopaste.snit.ch:8001 | merge gsoc_nci | Set by moderator on 2 November 2010. |
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| GeJ | Bonjour everyone. | 00:21 | |
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| GeJ | aloha: clock? | 00:22 | |
| aloha | GeJ: GeJ: LAX: Fri, 17:22 PDT / CHI: Fri, 19:22 CDT / NYC: Fri, 20:22 EDT / UTC: Sat, 00:22 UTC / LON: Sat, 00:22 GMT / BER: Sat, 01:22 CET / TOK: Sat, 09:22 JST / SYD: Sat, 11:22 EST | ||
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| bacek | aloha, humans | 06:15 | |
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| cotto | aloha, bacek | 07:32 | |
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| mikehh | opbots, names | 10:07 | |
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| tadzik | o/ | 11:17 | |
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| dalek | rrot: r49788 | jkeenan++ | trunk (104 files): Merge tt1841_osvers branch into trunk. Adds 'osvers' to configuration data. |
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| rrot: r49789 | jkeenan++ | branches/tt1841_osvers: Branch has been merged into trunk and is no longer needed at HEAD. |
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| TT #1841 closed by jkeenan++: Add 'osvers' key-value pair to Configure.pl | 14:50 | ||
| TT #1841: trac.parrot.org/parrot/ticket/1841 | |||
| ttbot | Parrot trunk/ r49788 i386-freebsd-64int make error tt.taptinder.org/file/cmdout/416245.txt ( tt.taptinder.org//buildstatus/pr-Pa.../rp-trunk/ ) | 14:58 | |
| dalek | rrot: r49790 | jkeenan++ | trunk/config/init/hints/freebsd.pm: Attempting to deal with tinderbox build failure report. Commenting out assignment to 'osvers'. |
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| kid51 | That's a very unusual taptinder error. It's saying that __APPLE_CC__ is not defined. But why would it be on FreeBSD? | 15:05 | |
| dalek | tracwiki: v7 | jkeenan++ | Lorito | 15:07 | |
| tracwiki: trac.parrot.org/parrot/wiki/Lorito?...ction=diff | |||
| arnsholt | kid51: Good question. But I think Apple has contributed some source code to fBSD via Darwin, so that might be it | 15:08 | |
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| kid51 | arnsholt: But the curious thing is: That assignment to 'osvers' in configuration is not, to our knowledge, used anywhere within 'make'. | 15:09 | |
| We are just stashing it away for future use. | |||
| arnsholt | Curious | 15:17 | |
| kid51 | Re-opening TT #1841. | 15:18 | |
| dalek | TT #1841 reopened by jkeenan++: Add 'osvers' key-value pair to Configure.pl | 15:21 | |
| TT #1841: trac.parrot.org/parrot/ticket/1841 | |||
| kid51 | On my Mac, I'm looking at /opt/local/include/libintl.h. This file's path suggests that I installed it via macports or Fink several years ago. | 15:27 | |
| (In contrast, on my Linux box, I have /usr/include/libintl.h ... which suggests it came with Debian.) | 15:28 | ||
| This /opt/local/include/libintl.h does have some code referencing __APPLE_CC__ -- as you would expect on Darwin. | 15:29 | ||
| The fact that on the Taptinder box this file was found in /usr/local/include/ suggests to me that it is not a vendor-supplied file. Perhaps a 'port'. | |||
| mikehh | kid51: seems ok now | 15:30 | |
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| kid51 | But why would something that, AFAICT, is never used during 'make' cause a 'make' failure? | 15:31 | |
| mikehh | kid51: sumtimes dese here 'puters are not as deterministic as we would like :-} | 15:33 | |
| kid51 | Even more weird: Taptinder reported this successful build: tt.taptinder.org/file/cmdout/416288.txt | 15:35 | |
| But this one has just as many __APPLE_CC__ warnings as the one that failed! | |||
| So maybe that was spurious. | |||
| The failure in 416245 came in 'miniparrot': | 15:37 | ||
| cc -o ./miniparrot src/main.o src/null_config.o -L/usr/home/jurosz/tt1/client-data/Parrot-trunk-temp/blib/lib -lparrot -lm -lcrypt -lutil -lreadline -lintl -Wl,-E -L/usr/local/lib | |||
| src/thread.c:753: undefined reference to `pthread_create' | |||
| *** Error code 1 | |||
| Stop in /usr/home/jurosz/tt1/client-data/Parrot-trunk-temp. | |||
| In tt.taptinder.org/file/cmdout/416245.txt (the failure), 'miniparrot' was being invoked by 'cc'. | 15:43 | ||
| tt.taptinder.org/file/cmdout/416288.txt (the success), 'miniparrot' was being invoked by 'g++'. | |||
| mikehh | kid51: those warnings go way back: it has them in the oldest report there for r49577 | 15:46 | |
| kid51 | mikehh: Yes, and if I google for them I find them in lots of other contexts | ||
| So they have nothing to do with Parrot or 'osvers' | 15:47 | ||
| As an experiment, I'm going to un-revert and see what that Taptinder FreeBSD box does. | |||
| mikehh | kid51: not AFAICS | ||
| dalek | rrot: r49791 | jkeenan++ | trunk/config/init/hints/freebsd.pm: Trying to track down source of build failure on FreeBSD. |
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| mikehh | kid51: the only ref to __APPLE_CC__ I could find in parrot was in src/pmc/env.pmc | 15:54 | |
| ttbot | Parrot trunk/ r49791 i386-freebsd-64int make error tt.taptinder.org/file/cmdout/416333.txt ( tt.taptinder.org//buildstatus/pr-Pa.../rp-trunk/ ) | 16:01 | |
| kid51 | Well, the build failure returned, so I shall have to re-revert. | 16:05 | |
| dalek | rrot: r49792 | jkeenan++ | trunk/config/init/hints/freebsd.pm: Again have to comment out assignment to 'osvers' to prevent build error reported by taptinder. |
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| kid51 | We'll have to see if we can get one of our live developers who works of FreeBSD to help out with this. | ||
| mikehh | kid51: weird, what is wrong with building miniparrot with gcc on FreeBSD, is seems to work fine with g++ with the rest built with gcc | 16:20 | |
| kid51: I seem to remember you mentioning that on your PPC you used g++ for ld but gcc for the rest | 16:21 | ||
| kid51 | mikehh: I haven't actually svn up on my Darwin/PPC yet. | 16:24 | |
| But, in any case, that case would be governed by config/init/hints/darwin.pm ... not hints/freebsd.pm. | |||
| dalek | tracwiki: v61 | whiteknight++ | GoogleCodeIn2010Tasks | 16:26 | |
| tracwiki: + create a website at <span class="icon">�</span>parrot.github.org</a> | |||
| tracwiki: trac.parrot.org/parrot/wiki/GoogleC...ction=diff | |||
| tracwiki: v62 | whiteknight++ | GoogleCodeIn2010Tasks | |||
| tracwiki: +project about a census of users | |||
| tracwiki: trac.parrot.org/parrot/wiki/GoogleC...ction=diff | |||
| kid51 | testing on Darwin/PPC | 16:28 | |
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| dukeleto | whiteknight: thanks for making new tasks! | 17:45 | |
| whiteknight: keeping them in difficulty order would be nice, tho :) | |||
| (whoever fixed dalek)++ | |||
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| dukeleto | whiteknight: how is your census task different than the "create a survey" task? | 17:47 | |
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| whiteknight | dukeleto: I didn't see the "create a survey " task | 19:23 | |
| dukeleto | whiteknight: it is near the top | 19:25 | |
| whiteknight | do you think we should break this long list up into subpages? | ||
| it's hard to navigate as-is | |||
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| cotto | seen chromatic | 19:30 | |
| aloha | chromatic was last seen in #parrot 2 days 16 hours ago saying "msg kid51 anything Rakudo related.". | ||
| whiteknight | yay! first volunteer for the API team | 19:36 | |
| cotto | I thought you already had a couple. | 19:37 | |
| whiteknight | where do we stand on the git migration? We're still waiting for people to verify their author names? | ||
| cotto | That's my understanding. | 19:38 | |
| dalek | tracwiki: v3 | whiteknight++ | ProductManagementTeam | ||
| tracwiki: +bluescreen | |||
| tracwiki: trac.parrot.org/parrot/wiki/Product...ction=diff | |||
| whiteknight | oh, nice! updates about the wiki again! | ||
| cotto | If dukeleto is ok with it, I'd like to finalize the schedule and post it to the relevant lists. | ||
| Great! I really missed those. | 19:39 | ||
| whiteknight | I would like that too, if duke is cool | ||
| cotto | dukeleto, ping | ||
| We got a correction from moritz, so it'd be hard to say that people didn't get a fair shot at making corrections. | 19:41 | ||
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| cotto toys with getting an addendum to his employment contract that gives him the right to add "Rocket Surgeon" to his job description. | 19:57 | ||
| This makes legalese much more fun, though I'm sure any lawyer looking at it would laugh and tell me to go away. | 20:12 | ||
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| dukeleto | cotto: pong | 20:24 | |
| cotto | dukeleto, how do you feel about nailing down a git migration schedule today? | 20:27 | |
| whiteknight | I think it's more important to have any timeline, than to have any particular one | 20:33 | |
| so it doesn't matter what the schedule is, so long as we can put something on the calendar | 20:34 | ||
| cotto | That's pretty much what I want to do. | ||
| dukeleto | cotto: sure | 20:43 | |
| nopaste | "cotto" at 192.168.1.3 pasted "any holes in this?" (7 lines) at nopaste.snit.ch/25354 | 20:49 | |
| cotto | dukeleto, ^ | ||
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| dukeleto | cotto: sounds ok to me, as long as the OSUOSL people konw about it | 21:37 | |
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| cotto | ~~ | 21:42 | |
| dukeleto, is anything missing? How will the author maps figure in? | 22:05 | ||
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| dukeleto | cotto: that will have to be massaged | 22:32 | |
| cotto: what did you mean that we got something from moritz? Did the CREDITS get updated? | |||
| dukeleto has a really busy day, and won't be able to do much until Monday, most probably | |||
| cotto | dukeleto, moritz updated CREDITS | 22:34 | |
| cotto knows the feeling | |||
| dukeleto | cotto: ok, that means i need to regenerate from CREDITS and fix the "a.k.a" lines again | ||
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| sorear | Infinoid: ping | 23:55 | |