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Parrot 3.9.0 "Archaeopteryx" | parrot.org | Log: irclog.perlgeek.de/parrot | #parrotsketch meeting Tuesday 19:30 UTC Set by moderator on 19 October 2011. |
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| dalek | kudo/nom: 1937529 | Coke++ | t/spectest.data: run fudged tests |
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| dalek | rrot: 9793a8e | petdance++ | src/pmc/undef.pmc: const a local var |
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| dalek | rrot: 9fe5c06 | petdance++ | src/pmc/imageiosize.pmc: consting local args and function parms |
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| dalek | rrot: ca4268d | petdance++ | src/pmc/default.pmc: marking unused vars UNUSED() |
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| rrot: 7805c4f | petdance++ | src/pmc/default.pmc: re-headerized |
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| cotto is at the gsoc mentor summit with dukeleto++ getting some research for m0 finished | 06:21 | ||
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| dalek | rrot: 7a6d1d9 | fperrad++ | tools/dev/mk_inno_language.pl: [win32/inno] rakudo / add some new files |
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| dalek | kudo: d7f45ff | moritz++ | src/core/Cool.pm: Cool.eval |
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| kudo/nom: ca26563 | jnthn++ | src/core/Mu.pm: Fix various dispatchers. |
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| dalek | p: 5ed5bc0 | jnthn++ | src/PAST/NQP.pir: Fill out nqp op space a little more. |
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| kudo/nom: 977b33b | jnthn++ | tools/build/NQP_REVISION: Bump NQP revision. |
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| kudo/nom: 7ac6d1e | jnthn++ | src/core/Buf.pm: Improve performance of Buf creation and listification. |
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| dalek | kudo/nom: fc3d314 | jnthn++ | src/core/Buf.pm: Eliminate unrequired slurpiness. |
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| kudo/nom: f7995a5 | jnthn++ | src/core/metaops.pm: Optimize reduction meta-op by avoiding inferior runloop for boolification - just do what .Bool does anyway. |
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| kudo/nom: f7d3d5d | jnthn++ | src/core/List.pm: Optimize push a little. |
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| kudo/nom: 81ce668 | jnthn++ | src/core/Buf.pm: Don't use .push in Buf.list when we already know exactly what index we're going to use. |
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| dalek | p: d7cec32 | jnthn++ | src/6model/reprs/P6opaque.c: Ensure we don't try to change the type of a type object. |
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| p: bbe37f3 | jnthn++ | src/6model/reprs/P6opaque.c: Ensure that when a type object is cloned, we don't lose the type object flag. |
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| p: 7bc5fcd | jnthn++ | src/ops/nqp.ops: Add a missing write barrier. |
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| kudo/nom: ecc293a | jnthn++ | src/ (2 files): Add write barriers in a couple of places they are potentially needed. |
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| kudo/nom: ee65d38 | jnthn++ | tools/build/NQP_REVISION: Bump NQP_REVISION to get fix for the mixin to type object segfault issue. |
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| sorear | dukeleto: your irc client is going crazy on freenode | 18:00 | |
| soh_cah_toa | i'm having problems installing winxed (from plumage and from source). it builds fine but when i run `parrot setup.pir test` or run winxed on any file i get: | 18:08 | |
| winxed: error while loading shared libraries: libparrot.so.3.6.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory | |||
| benabik | !! | ||
| soh_cah_toa | btw, i have parrot 3.8.0 installed | ||
| no, 3.9.0 | |||
| benabik | Must have an old copy of the fakecutable around. | ||
| soh_cah_toa | how do i do that? | 18:09 | |
| benabik | no idea? | ||
| soh_cah_toa | oh wait, you're saying i might have an old fakecutable or i need to use an old fakecutable? | 18:10 | |
| NotFound | soh_cah_toa: What OS are you using? | 18:11 | |
| soh_cah_toa | NotFound: fedora 14 | 18:12 | |
| benabik | soh_cah_toa: Saying you must have one around from when you had 3.6 installe.d | ||
| soh_cah_toa | ah, ok | ||
| NotFound | soh_cah_toa: Use ./winxed to be sure what executable are you running | ||
| soh_cah_toa | there is no ./winxed after 'build' :\\ | 18:15 | |
| NotFound | soh_cah_toa: build is for installation, use good old 'make' | 18:21 | |
| soh_cah_toa tries | |||
| pbc_to_exe: error while loading shared libraries: libparrot.so.3.6.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory | 18:22 | ||
| agh, i don't have 3.6.0!!! | |||
| benabik | :-/ | ||
| Looks like you still have a lot of the executables around from 3.6 though. | |||
| soh_cah_toa | i just `wipe`d them though. i'll double check | 18:23 | |
| NotFound | soh_cah_toa: use 'type winxed' and the shell will tell you what executable is choosing. | ||
| soh_cah_toa | winxed is /usr/local/bin/winxed | 18:24 | |
| hm, that's the old version | |||
| b/c i installed new one to ~/bin | |||
| that there is probably my problem | 18:25 | ||
| NotFound | Delete it, or change your PATH | ||
| soh_cah_toa | yeah ~/bin is in my $PATH but after /usr/local/bin | ||
| NotFound | In order to use a non-installed winxed you must have the winxed directory in the PATH before the directory of the installed parrot. | 18:26 | |
| soh_cah_toa | i have parrot and winxed installed to same directory | ||
| benabik | soh_cah_toa: verydemotivational.memebase.com/201...roblem-11/ | 18:27 | |
| NotFound | soh_cah_toa: if you compile and install, it will overwrite the one provided with parrot. | ||
| soh_cah_toa | there, it works after removing /usr/local/bin/winxed | ||
| it work's w/ distutils but not make however | 18:28 | ||
| whatever, it works. now i can try installing rosella | 18:29 | ||
| NotFound | soh_cah_toa: you don't need to install winxed to build rosella, the winxed snapshot provided with parrot in enough. | 18:30 | |
| soh_cah_toa | ok | ||
| speaking of winxed, i was thinking of rewriting plumage in winxed once i'm done w/ my featherspec work | 18:31 | ||
| NotFound: can you use inline pir in winxed? | |||
| NotFound | soh_cah_toa: sort of. You can use most pir ops, but there is no way to write chunks of pir like in nqp. | 18:32 | |
| soh_cah_toa | hm :\\ | ||
| well, that might not be a problem b/c the inline pir i've used in plumage is b/c of the limitations in nqp | 18:33 | ||
| wasn't there someone who was using nci w/ winxed for their gsoc project? i'd like to see how they used it | 18:34 | ||
| bubaflub, i think | |||
| NotFound | soh_cah_toa: probably not, I'll be glad to help in any problem you find. | ||
| soh_cah_toa | sure, thanks | ||
| bubaflub | soh_cah_toa: yup. github.com/bubaflub/parrot-gmp | ||
| soh_cah_toa: it might be slower than you'd like - i haven't done thorough benchmarks but for un-optimized Parrot it's a bit slow | 18:35 | ||
| soh_cah_toa | bubaflub: great, thanks | ||
| benabik | Unoptimized parrot is a bit slow in general. That's what optimization is for. ;-) | ||
| soh_cah_toa | bubaflub: what's this raw.nci file for? i've never seen that before | 18:36 | |
| bubaflub | benabik: yup. i'm working on getting some benchmarks together so we can see how everything stacks up against pure C | ||
| benabik | bubaflub: Poorly. | ||
| NotFound | Don't benchmark unoptimized parrot, that may induce some people to delete assertions and other checks, wich will be bad. | ||
| bubaflub | benabik: yup | 18:37 | |
| NotFound: ok | |||
| soh_cah_toa: | |||
| whoops. | |||
| soh_cah_toa | and thunk.nci too | ||
| bubaflub | soh_cah_toa: the raw.nci file is a list of function signatures that is used by ncidef2pir.pl to generate PIR bindings for me | ||
| soh_cah_toa | hm | 18:38 | |
| bubaflub | soh_cah_toa: thunk.nci is a file that is used by parrot_nci_thunk_gen to generate C code that is then compiled | ||
| (you need to generate those thunks in the event that you don't have libffi installed and the thunks are standard ones) | |||
| soh_cah_toa: docs/tutorial.md is incomplete but should describe some of these files and the build process | 18:39 | ||
| soh_cah_toa | well, rewriting in winxed is a little farther down the road so i'll worry about groking all this nci stuff then | ||
| bubaflub | soh_cah_toa: ok. lemme know if you need help with that. | 18:40 | |
| soh_cah_toa: by the way, what do you need NCI for? | |||
| soh_cah_toa | bubaflub: for using libzip as part of the packaging process in plumage | 18:41 | |
| bubaflub | soh_cah_toa: would it be helpful to have general libzip bindings outside of plumage? | ||
| soh_cah_toa | bubaflub: i suppose | 18:42 | |
| how do i load a library w/ winxed? i forget. isn't it $load('rosella.pbc') | 18:50 | ||
| NotFound | soh_cah_toa: the loadlib builtin | 18:52 | |
| soh_cah_toa: see for example examples/Mysql.winxed in the winxed directory | 18:55 | ||
| soh_cah_toa | NotFound: not for loading a shared library, a parrot library like Rosella | 18:56 | |
| NotFound | soh_cah_toa: ah, then the $load directive or the load_bytecode builtin. | 18:58 | |
| soh_cah_toa | ok, what's the difference? | ||
| NotFound | $load generates a .load pir directive. | 18:59 | |
| load_bytecode, the opcode | |||
| soh_cah_toa | so using $foo generates the .foo directive? | 19:00 | |
| NotFound | No, there are just a few directives. | ||
| soh_cah_toa | ok | ||
| NotFound | BTW should be $load 'rosella.pbc'; without parens | 19:01 | |
| soh_cah_toa | yeah | ||
| nopaste | "soh_cah_toa" at 192.168.1.3 pasted "Winxed loadlib()" (12 lines) at nopaste.snit.ch/89846 | 19:02 | |
| soh_cah_toa | what is that ^ about? | ||
| NotFound | Directives must be out of functions. | ||
| soh_cah_toa | WARNING: class Rosella.FileSystem.Directory not found at compile time | 19:03 | |
| NotFound | soh_cah_toa: you should declare external classes used to avoid that warning. I think rosella provides a include file for that. | 19:04 | |
| soh_cah_toa | agh, this is so annoying >:( | 19:05 | |
| NotFound | Or you can use the parrot-alike new variant: new [ 'Rosella', 'FileSystem', 'Directory' ] | 19:06 | |
| soh_cah_toa | i hate that syntax, i'm gonna try and find that include file | ||
| NotFound | I'm sorry, but that warning helps save time with typos. | 19:08 | |
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| nopaste | "soh_cah_toa" at 192.168.1.3 pasted "Rosella is Annoying Me" (14 lines) at nopaste.snit.ch/89847 | 19:20 | |
| soh_cah_toa | more annoyance ^ | ||
| that's what whiteknight.github.com/Rosella/libr...ystem.html said to do | 19:21 | ||
| nopaste | "soh_cah_toa" at 192.168.1.3 pasted "More Garbage" (19 lines) at nopaste.snit.ch/89848 | 19:23 | |
| NotFound | Don't know what is that 'construct' | ||
| soh_cah_toa | me neither but it's what that link said to do :\\ | ||
| using it in nqp is what i really need | 19:24 | ||
| benabik | soh_cah_toa: There's no magic to NQP's .new I think you'd have to do $dir := pir::new(Rosella::FileSystem::Directory) and $dir.Directory('foo') | 19:25 | |
| soh_cah_toa | ok | ||
| benabik++ | 19:27 | ||
| looks like you solved the mystery | |||
| benabik | The .Directory is because Rosella uses winxed's initializer style. | 19:28 | |
| soh_cah_toa | whatevs... :P | ||
| benabik | NQP just relies on P6MetaObject providing a .new method which does… stuff. | 19:29 | |
| NotFound | When enough people gets annoyed by such things, maybe we can start talking about language-agnostic way to create and invoke constructors ;) | 19:30 | |
| benabik | yeah. | ||
| And hopefully without the new opcode becoming variable size. | |||
| Although I guess you could pass a CallContext into it or something… Anyway, back to proposal writing. | 19:32 | ||
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| nopaste | "soh_cah_toa" at 192.168.1.3 pasted "Rosella::FileSystem::Directory.walk()" (25 lines) at nopaste.snit.ch/89849 | 19:45 | |
| soh_cah_toa | msg whiteknight when you got a second, i'm having some trouble using Rosella::FileSystem in nqp; particularly, the Directory.walk() method. this snippet of code doesn't seem to work: nopaste.snit.ch/89849 | 19:46 | |
| aloha | OK. I'll deliver the message. | ||
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| dalek | kudo/macros: b1c555f | masak++ | src/Perl6/Actions.pm: make it possible to return from macros Kudos to moritz++ for discovering this use case. |
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| dalek | kudo/nom: 18dea93 | jnthn++ | src/ (15 files): Add an nqp::p6decont and eliminate pir::perl6_decontainerize in the setting in favor of it. |
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| soh_cah_toa | whiteknight: hey | 21:38 | |
| whiteknight: i need your help using rosella | |||
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| whiteknight | hello soh_cah_toa | 23:00 | |
| what help do you need? | |||
| soh_cah_toa | whiteknight: i sent you a msg. it's w/ Rosella::FileSystem::Directory.walk() | 23:09 | |
| whiteknight | soh_cah_toa: okay, there was a bug in Rosella. You're also using it wrong | 23:14 | |
| let me push the fix, then I'll nopaste the correct incantation | |||
| soh_cah_toa | ok | ||
| dalek | sella: 3f78e50 | Whiteknight++ | src/filesystem/Directory.winxed: Fix for FileSystem.Directory.walk. soh_cah_toa++ for finding it |
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| nopaste | "Whiteknight" at 192.168.1.3 pasted "correct nqp code for soh_cah_toa++" (13 lines) at nopaste.snit.ch/89850 | ||
| whiteknight | done and done | ||
| soh_cah_toa | too many positional arguments: 3 passed, 1 expected | 23:20 | |
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| soh_cah_toa | at line 11 which is: my @contents := $dir.walk(); | 23:21 | |
| whiteknight | same thing? | 23:22 | |
| do you have an installed Rosella? | |||
| soh_cah_toa | yeah | ||
| whiteknight | the older version might be conflicting | ||
| soh_cah_toa | oh yeah. duh. i pulled the changes but didn't install :( | ||
| whiteknight | nice | 23:23 | |
| soh_cah_toa | yeah ok. that works | 23:25 | |
| whiteknight | nice | ||
| I clearly don't have enough tests for that | |||
| soh_cah_toa | is there a is_dir()-like function? | 23:26 | |
| i'd like to walk() a tree and perform a different action whether it's a file or directory | |||
| whiteknight | Rosella::FileSystem::is_dir, I think | ||
| is_directory() | |||
| soh_cah_toa | ok yeah, is_directory() | ||
| whiteknight | and is_file() | ||
| cotto | dukeleto++ and I are getting some PaFo business taken care of, thanks to particle++ | 23:30 | |
| I hope this is the start of good things. | |||
| whiteknight | I hope so too | 23:34 | |
| it would be nice to finally have access to that stuff | |||
| cotto | has anyone managed to reproduce jnthn | 23:36 | |
| 's segfault bug? | |||
| whiteknight | I haven't tried yet | ||
| cotto | it worked fine for me, which could be good or bad | ||
| (as in no sf) | 23:37 | ||
| whiteknight | what platform is he on? | 23:55 | |