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Parrot 6.10.0 "New Caledonian lorikeet" | parrot.org/ | Log: irclog.perlgeek.de/parrot | #parrotsketch meeting Fridays 13:30 UTC Set by moderator on 5 December 2014. |
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| Woodi | hi | 06:25 | |
| while Parrot is considered slow ? some bad subsystem(s) ? | 06:27 | ||
| s/while/why/ | 06:54 | ||
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| Util | Woodi: (very over-simplified answer): | 13:44 | |
| Perl 6 is the major client for Parrot, and Perl 6 is slower than Perl 5, and Parrot is a major reason for Perl 6 being slower than Perl 5. | |||
| So, Parrot was in the "spotlight" for its under-performance, in the eyes of Perl people, even though Perl 6 speeds were comparable to Perl5+Moose at the time. | |||
| Parrot has some deep design decisions that favor *all* dynamic languages, instead of just Perl. So, not "bad sub-systems", mostly just not optimal for Perl 6. | |||
| Well, there are at least two areas that would speed up all languages if re-designed: calling conventions and the PIR/C boundaries (M0). | |||
| Just around the time we were going to tackle the re-design of those areas, MoarVM was revealed (which focuses solely on Perl), and most of our manpower switched from working on Parrot to MoarVM. | |||
| We are still working toward those re-designs, but more gradually, since manpower is low. | 13:45 | ||
| In the mean-time, Parrot is a very *stable* and featureful platform, and may be fast enough for any given project, just not fast enough (yet) for Perl 6 joy. | |||
| FROGGS | correct... except the hickups in August/September parrot is still the most stable backend | 13:48 | |
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| Reini | August/September? charsets right? | 15:17 | |
| ah, and Moritz' fullpath changes | |||
| FROGGS | and also the GC bug that happened to show up more often | 15:20 | |
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| Woodi | it would be realy nice to have not-dead-Parrot, even if in kind of stasis for next 10 or 20 years :) and as fast as coliber of course... | 20:08 | |
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