Parrot 2.7.0 "Australian King" Released! | parrot.org Log: irclog.perlgeek.de/parrot/today | Nopaste: nopaste.snit.ch:8001 | close 13 tickets, merge outstanding branches, help NotFound clean up PBC tests
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cotto_work dafrito: what additional features do you think the trac plugin needs to have before we can start showing it off? 00:08
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dafrito cotto_work: I'm not very fluent in trac-ish things, so I probably can't give a good answer 00:15
cotto_work hi Paul_the_Greek
dafrito A rough parity between the SVN counterpart and the git one (except for the things we let github do for us) makes a good milestone
cotto_work ok. I'm just brainstorming. I have a couple things, but having a demo site ready for people to play with by next #ps sounds attainable.
dafrito What were you thinking? 00:16
cotto_work wiki syntax support for svn and git changesets, including tooltips is the biggest thing I can think of 00:17
The tooltips are quite nice. I'd hate to lose them.
dafrito will be on vacation next week, so I'll be less consistent 00:19
cotto_work I'm glad to have whatever tuits you care to donate. Enjoy your vacation!
Paul_the_Greek Going someplace nice?
dafrito Grand Junction, Colorado, to see my girlfriend :) 00:20
Paul_the_Greek Excellent.
Are pbc file formats platform-dependent?
cotto_work Yes and no. 00:21
dafrito cotto_work, do you have an example of where the tooltips are used?
cotto_work There's a platform-specific version that's generated by parrot on a given platform, but parrots on different platforms should be able to load and run any pbc file. 00:22
dafrito: trac.parrot.org/parrot/ticket/1652 has an example 00:23
Paul_the_Greek Ah, it appears to be optimized for a particular platform, but loadable on any. 00:24
cotto_work exactly
Paul_the_Greek Is a PBC file and a packfile the same thing? 00:26
plobsing_work Paul_the_Greek: sort of optimized. I looked at the dissasembly of reading a native packfile integer. Its huge. I think inlining src/byteorder.c into src/packfile/pf_items.c could improve performance. But it is not a bottleneck.
cotto_work plobsing_work: ooc do you think it's a premature optimization? 00:28
plobsing_work cotto_work: not at all. the two files do essentially the same thing, one just forwarding to the other.
no other place in parrot has to manipulate endianness and intvals/flotavals of various sizes 00:29
it's not premature, it's just not much of a win performance-wise. code-complexity-wise, it is a win. 00:30
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Paul_the_Greek So the header describes the integers/floats and then platform-specific code converts to internal format. 00:30
cotto_work ok. Thanks.
Paul_the_Greek plobsing_work: It's really messy to internalize an integer? There are only four cases or so. 00:33
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plobsing_work 4 pbc types => 4 reader architectures = 16 types of conversions 00:35
Paul_the_Greek Oh, but the floats.
plobsing_work but I agree it is a little messier than necessary. It's just not very important because it JFW.
Paul_the_Greek Jamaica Federation of Women? 00:37
plobsing_work Just F'ing Works
cotto_work jfw? 00:38
purl well, jfw is just f**king work.
Paul_the_Greek Thanks, purlie-pooh.
plobsing_work afk # friday night
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Paul_the_Greek Do we have benchmark results online anywhere? 00:39
cotto_work Someone had a script to run benchmarks against various versions of Parrot, possibly andy. 00:40
I don't think they made it online anywhere.
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cotto_work though I'll buy you beer if you rip off speed.pypy.org for us. 00:41
Paul_the_Greek Cute. 00:42
Log the benchmakrs on each release and generate some graphs. 00:43
cotto_work daily would be better, but that's bikeshedding at this point 00:44
Paul_the_Greek I should write some Python code sometime, just to see if a whitespace language is as whacky as I think.
cotto_work If you've ever wanted to hack on a Trac plugin, I know a guy. 00:45
Paul_the_Greek That doesn't come to mind as big fun, but you never know. 00:46
cotto_work your call
Paul_the_Greek Can I proclaim you my mentor, or should someone make an official assignment? 00:48
cotto_work Sure.
Committer mentoring is pretty informal. 00:49
Paul_the_Greek You've been doing much of the mentoring anyway. I appreciate that.
cotto_work np
Paul_the_Greek I have that one ticket to fix and also the opcode ticket. Those can be my first commits.
I have no idea how to apply a patch to the system. Is there a document about that? 00:50
cotto_work usually it's something like patch -p0 <your_patch.diff 00:52
man patch
Paul_the_Greek But how is that applied to the master source, as opposed to my copy? 00:54
cotto_work svn commit
purl somebody said svn commit was done
Paul_the_Greek Oh, so I apply it to my copy, then commit it?
cotto_work that's how it works
Paul_the_Greek So if it's my own patch, I can simply commit my working copy of the file? 00:55
cotto_work You won't be committing the whole file, just your changes.
yes
sorry, misread
Paul_the_Greek Wait, confused. 00:56
If I commit my working copy, then svn deals with creating the patch that maps the old file to the new one?
cotto_work yes 00:57
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Paul_the_Greek When I commit someone else's patch, then I download it, run patch, then commit my updated file? 00:57
cotto_work assuming all tests pass, yes
Paul_the_Greek Slight change of topic: When I return home, I should do the following, right? 00:58
Save my changed files off to the side.
svn update
purl At revision 666.
Paul_the_Greek Rework my changes in. 00:59
Create patch files.
cotto_work When you run svn update, svn will attempt to merge changes from trunk with local canges.
*changes
Paul_the_Greek Oh...
cotto_work If there are conflicts it can't figure out, it'll give you the information you need to resolve them.
Paul_the_Greek And it will update every file that has changed since I last updated?
cotto_work yes
Paul_the_Greek Well, that's not as bad as I'd feared. 01:00
What's the differrence between that and checking out everything again? 01:01
cotto_work It doesn't make sense to check out into a non-empty directory
Paul_the_Greek Okay.
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Paul_the_Greek One more question and I'll let you go: Would it be clearer if I first update each file I've changed, individually, and then update all? 01:02
cotto_work There's no need. 01:03
Paul_the_Greek Great, thanks.
cotto_work glad to be of use
Paul_the_Greek Oh wait, I lied. One more:
Is it the policy to attach a patch and wait awhile even if I plan to commit my own change?
cotto_work It's a good idea, especially if you're not sure of your change. 01:04
Paul_the_Greek Makes sense. Okay, thanks a bunch!
cotto_work How much longer is your vacation?
Paul_the_Greek I'll be home a week from Sunday. 01:05
Evening, all. 01:07
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dafrito cotto_work: Should the trac plugin implement IRepositoryConnector? 01:09
cotto_work why do you ask? 01:10
dafrito Well, I think that's related to our no 'Browse Source' woes
It looks like trac's RepositoryManager checks for living repositories to determine whether that tab should be shown 01:11
cotto_work Sounds likely then. I'm going home but I've got it on my todo list. 01:12
dafrito That interface carries a bit of baggage, though, since we have to provide a useful Repository implementation, so I can understand us avoiding it
I'll dig deeper and see what it'll take 01:13
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cotto ~~ 01:26
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dalek TT #1749 created by pmichaud++: readall method on open FileHandle is inefficient 01:31
TT #1749: trac.parrot.org/parrot/ticket/1749
thub-trac: 172cdfb | ++ | github/github.py:
only create the db tables if the revmap is explicitly enabled
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thub-trac: 3501d76 | ++ | TODO:
remove a todo item
thub-trac: cba8cca | ++ | / (4 files):
Merge branch 'master' of github.com:cotto/github-trac

Conflicts:
  \tTODO
dafrito notes that Robert A. Heinlein's quote on parrot.org breaks the layout :( 01:37
cotto /me hates <pre> abuse
cotto also notes that dalek needs a hug 01:38
dafrito Yeah, he seems to have forgotten your name
Infinoid cotto: Your login is reported as "" in github.com/api/v2/yaml/commits/list...rac/master 01:47
I can hack it to use realname in that case, but it seems like some detail of how you're making commits. 01:48
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tcurtis How can I force a StringBuilder to use a certain encoding from C? 02:02
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dalek TT #1750 created by jkeenan++: t/pmc/packfile*.t: Failures in multiple files on Darwin/PPC; not ... 02:55
TT #1750: trac.parrot.org/parrot/ticket/1750
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jeffrey Reading the C code for parrot, it's very good looking stuff, from the aesthetic point of view 03:20
Just very attractively laid out
cotto you can than headerizer and our codingstd tests
thanks 03:21
s/than/thank/
jeffrey Is the configuration software useable outside of parrot?
Say as an alternative to GNU's autoconf?
cotto You'd have to ask someone like kid51 about how easy it'd be to use it for another project. 03:22
pmichaud based on previous reputation, I'd say "probably not reusable" 03:23
it may have been significantly refactored since then
jeffrey thanks
pmichaud but traditionally that was an area that people were loathe to touch
kid51++ has done an outstanding job with it
jeffrey Just thought I'd check 03:24
Because looking at the C code you guys obviously know what you're doing
So if you config logic was easy to steal, I thought it'd be a great thing to use
Autoconf is of course very, very ugly 03:25
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pmichaud yes, I think it's part of the nature of the beast. 03:25
anyway, I may be mis-speaking about parrot's config; it may be exactly what you need. I just know that many of us have grumbled about it from time to time :-)
jeffrey I will look into headerizer and codingstd
It'd be a wonderful thing to have my code look half as pretty as the Parrot C code 03:26
cotto The codingstd tests should be pretty easy to reuse if you have a sane way to get a list of the C files.
t/codingstd/*t
Though you clearly haven't seen some parts of the code. 03:27
;)
jeffrey I've taken a random sample and am going to assume it's all beautiful :-)
pmichaud oh, headerizer and codingstd are undoubtedly worth looking at
those are relatively recent, and (as cotto++ said) a big part of why the codebase is so clean 03:28
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jeffrey I'm looking at the codingstd stuff now -- seems very useful. 03:32
Thanks. Have a good evening!
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dalek kudo: 03a9388 | pmichaud++ | build/PARROT_REVISION:
Bump PARROT_REVISION to get && in regexes.
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kudo: 1996bac | pmichaud++ | src/Perl6/Grammar.pm:
Refactor <.dumbsmart> rule.
kudo: d1015f0 | pmichaud++ | src/core/Cool-str.pm:
Rewrite .chomp method to be more efficient. With this change, the time needed to read 10,000 lines via for $*IN.lines { ... } goes from 75 seconds to 21 seconds on my system.
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brianwisti Oh hey, Mibbit is prettier than BitchX. Fancy that. 03:44
cotto It's got its share of annoying quirks though. 03:47
Coke, do you recall if partcl uses ops2c.pl or if it switched to the ops2c fakecutable? 03:48
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cotto nm. It uses the fakecutable. 03:52
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cotto Is there any reason why ack wouldn't be searching directories recursively? 05:36
Andy yes
you could have some environment stuff
try --noenv
even better, do ack -f --noenv 05:37
and see what files it is searching.
cotto it lists nothing
Andy ok
cotto in /usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/trac, which is decidedly non-empty
Andy what's in there?
What does find show you 05:38
Is there actual source code in there?
cotto lots of .py and .pyc files, several directories
yes
Andy The .py it should be finding.
I'm not sure I can tell you from here.
cotto it works in other directories 05:39
Andy do a find on that dir and nopaste it
cotto any special args to find?
Andy no 05:40
nopaste "cotto" at 192.168.1.3 pasted "list of files for andy" (467 lines) at nopaste.snit.ch/22953 05:41
cotto plenty of normal-looking files
ack 1.92
perl 5.10.1 05:42
purl somebody said perl 5.10.1 was out
Andy what does "ack -a -f" show you
cotto a whole bunch of .pyc files (including ones in subdirectories) but nothing else 05:43
nopaste "cotto" at 192.168.1.3 pasted "ack -a -f" (125 lines) at nopaste.snit.ch/22954
Andy something smells like permissions 05:44
esp if it works in other dirs
but I don't know why
cotto I'm noticing now that all the .py files are symlinks
Andy THERE you go.
ack -h | ack sym 05:45
sorry, I mean ack --help | ack sym
cotto oic
thanks
andy++ 05:46
Andy your'e welcome
cotto I'm so unconfused now. 05:47
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mak hi 11:46
what is chromatic's mail id?
I need to submit a patch to modern perl book
The readme file says patches welcome, but no mention of which adress to send 11:47
anybody there??? 11:50
purl farts
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Infinoid purl is a joyful bot 12:20
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mikehh mak: you still there? 12:38
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Coke chromatic? 13:14
purl?
06:09 * snarkyboojum has Rakudo star running on his phone :D
note that that includes parrot. 13:15
Infinoid ooo
Coke 06:11 < snarkyboojum> a Nokia N900 fwiw :)
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Paul_the_Greek Morning, intrepid Parroteers. 13:53
dalek rtcl-nqp: 7d7afd0 | coke++ | src/Partcl/Grammar.pm:
Factor out namespace separator, and allow variables like $::foo in the grammar.
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rtcl-nqp: 983f476 | coke++ | src/Partcl/commands/namespace.pm:
add simplistic [namespace children]; no tests pass yet.
rtcl-nqp: ad9586e | coke++ | t/ (2 files):
SKIP less code.
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pmichaud l 16:00
ww
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dalek TT #1751 created by Paul_the_Greek++: Links to DEPRECATED.pod et al 17:00
TT #1751: trac.parrot.org/parrot/ticket/1751
icarroll Hi. I'm looking for some information about HLL::Grammar.O 17:04
is it documented anywhere?
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tcurtis icarroll: not particularly well, as I recall, but this is somewhat informative: github.com/perl6/nqp-rx/blob/master...ar.pir#L28 17:07
icarroll tcurtis: thanks, I'll take a look 17:09
tcurtis icarroll: probably your best bet is to read the POD there and then go look at existing compilers. If you have a specific question, feel free to just ask that here. 17:11
icarroll tcurtis: the main question I have is "why?" I don't understand what it's for, when the pct book describes an entirely different way to apparently achieve the same result 17:15
tcurtis icarroll: well, is optable and such was the PGE way of doing it. I'm not really sure exactly why NQP-rx uses HLL::Grammar.O instead. pmichaud would likely know that. 17:18
icarroll ok
jnthn It appeared when the two parsers were unified into a single one that all hangs of proto-regexes. 17:20
O specifies information to the operator precedence parser in EXPR
Such as associativity, precedence, and so forth. 17:21
icarroll jnthn: does that mean the pge optable approach doesn't work any more?
jnthn icarroll: PGE has been superceded by nqp-rx
dukeleto 'ello
icarroll ok 17:22
tcurtis PGE is still around, though, so it should still work in PGE, right?
jnthn Yes, but if starting something new, it's probably best to go with nqp-rx.
icarroll so if I want to use nqp-rx I have to use O, right?
jnthn icarroll: Correct. 17:23
icarroll: It turns out to be more flexible and consistent in the end.
icarroll ok
so now that's settled, here's the question that got me digging into this 17:24
I want to have an infix, list associative comma operator
dukeleto cotto_work, anybody: i have been thinking about how to mirror subversion tags in git. do we want to make them to be branches with a "tags/" prefix ?
icarroll I'd like to have all the comma separated items passed as a list to the action 17:25
how do I do that, or is there a better way?
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pmichaud icarroll: this is exactly how infix comma works in nqp 17:27
(and rakudo)
icarroll so just lift the code from nqp?
jnthn pmichaud: I think icarroll is expecting the action method to have all the children available when invoked.
Though maybe I mis-understand.
pmichaud token infix:sym<,> { <sym> <O('%comma, :pasttype<list>')> }
where %comma is defined as 17:28
icarroll jnthn: yes, that's what I'd prefer, but I'm willing to do it whatever way is usual
pmichaud NQP::Grammar.O(':prec<g=>, :assoc<list>, :nextterm<nulltermish>', '%comma');
:assoc<list> says "list associative", so all of the children end up being children of a single node
:nextterm<nulltermish> uses the nulltermish rule to allow empty terms at the end of the list 17:29
no, the action method can't have all of the children available, because at the point where a comma is parsed we don't know the next child yet (this is common to all infix operators)
jnthn icarroll: The thing is that we call the action method for an operator before we have all the children to hand. 17:30
icarroll that's surprising, but ok
pmichaud why is it surprising?
if I have $a + $b
and I parse the '+'
then by definition I haven't parsed the $b yet :-)
jnthn To be fair, it surprised me a little at first too.
icarroll k
jnthn pmichaud: You haven't, but I thought of it more tree-like
pmichaud: Whereas it's actually much more linear. :-) 17:31
Which makes sense.
pmichaud parsing usually is. :)
jnthn Right. :-)
icarroll so the comma action will get called once for each item in the comma-separated list?
pmichaud the comma action gets called once for each *comma*
icarroll k
pmichaud not per-item
icarroll where do the items get accumulated, and how does the last item get into the list? 17:32
pmichaud well, :assoc<list> says that all of the items should be children of the PAST::Op node that the EXPR rule builds for the comma operator
so, the expression parser builds PAST::Op nodes for each operator, where the children of the node are the operands 17:33
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pmichaud or, if you're just looking at the parse tree, there will be an infix:sym<,> node that has all of the items as children 17:35
icarroll so each time the action is called it adds its argument to the same op node? 17:36
or is that done by the parser?
pmichaud no, the operator actions don't have to add their arguments -- the overall EXPR action does that
icarroll ok
pmichaud for example, with $a + $b * $c
the + operator can't know its second argument until $b * $c has been processed completely
(note that its second argument is not "$b" :-) 17:37
so the overall expression parser takes care of that
jnthn: in answer to your question -- yes, it *is* possible to have a parser that does a top-down tree approach, but it's incredibly slow (i.e., that's "recursive descent parsing") 17:38
and it doesn't really lend itself to adding new precedence layers easily 17:39
icarroll does this comma operator need an action function?
does it allow one?
or is everything done by the expression parser?
pmichaud icarroll: probably doesn't need one. In Rakudo, the comma operator becomes a PAST::Op node that calls the &infix:<,> function.
in NQP, the comma operator results in a PAST::Op node with a 'pasttype' of list, which is an operation that builds a list from its arguments 17:40
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pmichaud those can be completely specified via the <O(...)> rule, without needing a separate action method. 17:40
jnthn pmichaud: It's probably also possible but tricky to suspend calling the action method until you have all the bits.
pmichaud: I'm not arguing that that's desirable though. 17:41
pmichaud: In fact, the current way works very nicely, now I understand why it's the way it is. :-)
pmichaud: It just won't automatically be people's first intution.
icarroll heh
I think the nqp way will do what I want
pmichaud jnthn: yes, most people understand recdescent much more quickly than bottom-up parsing 17:42
icarroll if I wanted something other than list, I could just define a new node type, right?
pmichaud you'd also have to write the method that converts that node into POST or something 17:43
icarroll ok
pmichaud normally we expect people to convert it into a runtime function call
icarroll where should it be converted?
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pmichaud compilers/pct/src/PAST/Compiler.pir has the current set of PAST node tyeps 17:46
*types
(gotta run here -- bbl)
icarroll k
thanks
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dalek tracwiki: v5 | jkeenan++ | HowToDeprecate 18:46
tracwiki: Add headline
tracwiki: trac.parrot.org/parrot/wiki/HowToDe...ction=diff
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kid51 bbial 18:59
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dalek tracwiki: v11 | jkeenan++ | ParrotDeprecations 19:03
tracwiki: Add headline; add link to How to Deprecate Parrot Code
tracwiki: trac.parrot.org/parrot/wiki/ParrotD...ction=diff
tracwiki: v6 | jkeenan++ | HowToDeprecate
tracwiki: Point link for Support Policy to that page on Parrot web site, rather than source code browser
tracwiki: trac.parrot.org/parrot/wiki/HowToDe...ction=diff
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Paul_the_Greek ping kid51 19:14
msg kid51 I responded to ticket #1751 with a bit more radical proposal. 19:15
purl Message for kid51 stored.
Paul_the_Greek purl,messages
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dukeleto according to trac.parrot.org/parrot/query?status...changetime we have closed 11 tickets already this week! nice job, peeps. 19:24
Paul_the_Greek Parrot-team++ 19:25
dukeleto: Where does the "duke" come from?
dukeleto Paul_the_Greek: from "Dune" by Frank Herbert 19:26
what time is it?
purl dukeleto: It's about twenty-five past seven in the evening where I am.
dukeleto purl--
purl dukeleto: what?
Paul_the_Greek --purl 19:28
dukeleto Paul_the_Greek: what parrot stuff are you working on these days? 19:31
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Paul_the_Greek On vacation now. Have two patches to commit when I return. Then I'll look at memory management, specifically speed of allocating PMCs. 19:31
Also have memory alignment issue to deal with. 19:32
I think I discovered another alignment issue this week. 19:35
dukeleto Paul_the_Greek: do you have a test for it?
dukeleto is working on the github mirror of parrot
Paul_the_Greek No. Both alignment issues are "hidden" now. They depend on the platform data sizes and on the PMC attribute block size. 19:36
I can make the second one happen with a custom PMC.
Can you set up Git and then have us switch over at some point? 19:37
I installed Git on my hack laptop here at the beach and I'm playing with it. 19:38
dukeleto Paul_the_Greek: :) that is the plan. it has been talked about a bunch on parrot-dev and #ps, and we are getting there, slowly but surely
Paul_the_Greek Do you have to suspend commits for awhile during the switch?
dukeleto Paul_the_Greek: cool! there are some git/git-svn wiki pages on the parrot wiki that may be helpful 19:39
Paul_the_Greek: i am just making a one way mirror right now, i.e. svn -> git
Paul_the_Greek I bought the Git book. It's pretty good. Git works fine on Windows XP.
So every change to the svn database updates the Git?
dukeleto Paul_the_Greek: when parrot feels comfortable making the big swich, there may be a small period where we suspend commits, but it might not be necessary. We can just make the svn repo read-only and tell people "commit to git now" 19:40
Paul_the_Greek I guess simply copying all the files and doing a git init on them was too much to hope for?
dukeleto Paul_the_Greek: yes, every branch/tag (and trunk) in svn is mirrored in a git repo 19:41
Paul_the_Greek: we don't want to lose 10 years of VCS history
Paul_the_Greek Oh, of course.
purl Indubitably.
Paul_the_Greek At some point before the switch, can you mark the Git repo read-only (except for mirror) and let people play with it a bit? At least to make sure we have Git installed and working. 19:42
dukeleto Paul_the_Greek: you can fork the github repo and play with it all you want right now: github.com/parrot/parrot 19:44
Paul_the_Greek: there really isn't a need to make it read-only, since everyone can easily fork it 19:45
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Paul_the_Greek Cool. Why on github instead of parrot.org? 19:45
dukeleto Paul_the_Greek: note that the repo on github is experimental, i may change it around. but playing around with it is fine
Paul_the_Greek: github is just a mirror, we can also host a git repo on parrot.org, too. We get lots of cool features for free on github, though. Such as: comments on commits, branch comparisons within a repo and across repos, etc... 19:46
Paul_the_Greek Excellent. So it's mirroring in real time now? 19:47
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dukeleto Paul_the_Greek: almost, working on it right now. and there is a few hour delay 19:50
Paul_the_Greek: nothing is quite set in stone now. I could have it check for new updates every few minutes, if we wanted 19:51
Paul_the_Greek: i am actually populating all the branches on github right now
Paul_the_Greek: there are 31 current svn branches
cotto dukeleto, do you have a link to the gsoc code submission requirements (or the title of the message)? 19:52
dukeleto cotto: groups.google.com/group/google-summ...lines-2010 19:53
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cotto What's the name of the topic? I still can't see that, even after being subscribed to the list twice. 19:58
nm. that's the student list
kid51 Parrot 2.7.0 "Australian King" Released! | parrot.org Log: irclog.perlgeek.de/parrot/today | Nopaste: nopaste.snit.ch:8001 | close 13 tickets, merge outstanding branches, help NotFound clean up PBC tests
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dukeleto cotto: groups.google.com/group/google-summ...lines-2010 19:59
I just put all the current svn branches on to github : github.com/parrot/parrot
cotto that one works
dukeleto,
purl hmmm... dukeleto, is that for me? or someone else?
cotto dukeleto++ 20:00
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dukeleto is steal working on tags 20:04
still, even 20:06
dukeleto steals away to still work on tags
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dalek kudo: 0c374d8 | cognominal++ | src/metamodel/GrammarHOW.pir:
fixes #77322 : changed sub compose in GrammarHOW.pir so that grammars always inherit from Grammar

Signed-off-by: Moritz Lenz <moritz@faui2k3.org>		 20:31
rrot: r48588 | jkeenan++ | trunk/tools/build/headerizer.pl:
Simplify documentation per �trac.parrot.org/parrot/ticket/1725.
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rrot: r48589 | jkeenan++ | branches/tt1725_headerizer_documentation:
Remove superseded branch.
rrot: r48590 | jkeenan++ | tags/tt1725_headerizer_documentation-48246:
Branch corresponding to tag has been deleted.
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dalek tracwiki: v177 | jkeenan++ | WikiStart 21:03
tracwiki: Link to more recent pages on deprecations and deprecation policy
tracwiki: trac.parrot.org/parrot/wiki/WikiSta...ction=diff
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dalek rrot: r48591 | jkeenan++ | trunk/tools/dev/as2c.pl:
Add references to documentation.
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rrot: r48592 | jkeenan++ | trunk/tools/dev/as2c.pl:
Program should not be executable in repository. Delete svn:executable.
rrot: r48593 | jkeenan++ | trunk/tools/dev/faces.pl:
Place documentation in a more formal POD format.
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smash hello everyone 21:27
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dalek kudo: 9288360 | moritz++ | t/spectest.data:
run grammar inheritance tests
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kid51 smash, hello! 21:33
smash: Do I take it that we have 4 candidates because others who were nominated declined the nomination?
dukeleto smash: hola 21:38
smash kid51: correct 21:41
anyone else here has admin access on parrot.org ?
dalek rrot: r48594 | jkeenan++ | trunk/tools/dev/fetch_languages.pl:
Correct typo and improve description in 'NAME' in POD.
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kid51 I don't. See if you can rouse particle Coke or allison 21:43
smash yeap, trying to
allison: ping
particle: ping
Coke: ping
cotto what needs to happen? 21:46
smash cotto: need to fix something to start the voting process 21:47
particle smash: temporarially given you admin access on parrot.org 21:52
fix away! 21:53
smash particle: let me see if i can fix it, thank you
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Coke smash: pong 22:20
smash Coke: particle++ already help out, thank you 22:22
particle: all done for now, but i may need to fix users roles on parrot.org, mind if i keep admin permissions until the voting ends ? 22:23
particle aye
i don't mind.
smash excelent, thank you 22:24
can anyone please confirm that my voting instructions mail made it to parrot-members ? 22:27
dukeleto smash: yes, i got it 22:30
smash: what are the rules about voting? can you vote for yourself? can you vote for as many people as you want?
particle dukeleto: yes and yes 22:33
looks like i cast the first votes. now, off to powerwash the deck. 22:34
smash dukeleto: yes, vote on every nominated (including yourself) 22:41
dukeleto The Parrot Github mirror now includes all current svn branches and tags (as proper git tags). Play around with it and let me know what you think: github.com/parrot/parrot 22:49
smash i'm off, happy voting.. and e-mail me with any question or if you find any problem 22:59
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