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| whiteknight wonders why P6 has a Cool type, but not Radical, Tubular, or Awesome ones | 00:09 | ||
| sub foo(Awesome $x) | |||
| or why not go all Paris Hilton with a Hot type? | |||
| sub bar(Hot $ornot) | |||
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| dalek | sella: 5ef0dae | Whiteknight++ | t/string/ (2 files): Implement several tests for String |
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| sella: 1aa7f86 | Whiteknight++ | src/ (2 files): Mark not_implemented the functions I'm not ready to implement yet |
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| sella: 34fa915 | Whiteknight++ | / (6 files): Update tests for CClass, Delimiter, and DelimiterRegion tokenizers |
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| dukeleto | ~~ | 01:45 | |
| whiteknight | hello dukeleto | 01:47 | |
| you home now? | |||
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| dukelet0 installed parrot-gmp via plumage just now, and it detected rosella as a dependency and installed that too. Spiffyy | 01:49 | ||
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| whiteknight | nice | 01:52 | |
| kid51 | Does anyone have a link to the slides cotto presented at YAPC? (or at OSBridge, as a fallback)? | ||
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| dukelet0 | looks like he hasn't put them on www.yapc2011.us/yn2011/talk/3311 yet | 01:57 | |
| cotto++ is currently wandering around Chicago during a long layover | |||
| dukelet0 sat next to him on the first flight that we shared this morning | |||
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| dukelet0 | kid51: i don't have a summary of the hackathon yet. Going to a wedding in a few mins. | 01:59 | |
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| kid51 | Thanks, I will post as is. | 02:01 | |
| (A Friday night wedding?) | |||
| dalek | website: jkeenan++ | Parrot at YAPC::NA::2011, Asheville NC | ||
| website: www.parrot.org/content/parrot-yapcn...heville-nc | |||
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| dalek | sella/gh-pages: 41e9f74 | Whiteknight++ | libraries/string.md: Add in draft docs for the String library |
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| dalek | sella: 67d90fb | Whiteknight++ | / (3 files): small fixes. Add FileSystem to list of libraries in README. string, path, and prototype library tests get run together as the 'unstable' set. Move the testing logic out of the main handler in setup.winxed, to prevent weird backtraces from appearing. |
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| dalek | website: soh_cah_toa++ | Battery Low, No Time for Title | 02:33 | |
| website: www.parrot.org/content/battery-low-no-time-title | |||
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| cotto | ~~ | 03:05 | |
| dukeleto, I caught an earlier flight back home. I got back around 12:00 local time. | 03:06 | ||
| much better than previous eta of 19:30 | 03:08 | ||
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| bubaflub | seen colomon | 03:27 | |
| aloha | colomon was last seen in #perl6 3 hours 50 mins ago saying "o/, #perl6". | ||
| benabik | ~~ | 03:29 | |
| bubaflub | msg colomon i've made a breaking change to parrot-gmp - .pbc files are now installed into GMP/*.pbc instead of src/GMP/*.pbc | 03:31 | |
| aloha | OK. I'll deliver the message. | ||
| cotto | msg kid51 My slides are at mksig.org/talks/yapcna11/slides/ . I also added them to the talk's page on the yapc site. | 03:53 | |
| aloha | OK. I'll deliver the message. | ||
| dalek | kudo: 72d158a | pmichaud++ | build/Makefile.in: Peg spectest to a specific revision, since they're starting to target the nom branch. |
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| cotto | sorear, ping | 04:58 | |
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| moritz | cotto: sorear mentioned that he might be offline until Tuesday | 06:24 | |
| cotto | moritz, ok. | 06:27 | |
| moritz, where does he live? | |||
| moritz | cotto: dunno | ||
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| Util is back home, safe and sleepy. | 06:58 | ||
| cotto | great conference, but it's really nice to be home again | 07:01 | |
| Util | ditto, cotto | 07:04 | |
| EJOKESOURCEUNDERFLOW | 07:05 | ||
| dalek | kudo/nom: 4434d03 | pmichaud++ | src/binder/types.c: Change types.c so that RPAs come back as Parcel instead of Array. |
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| moritz now digs up the first R* tarball and uses that for timing as well | 07:11 | ||
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| whiteknight | good morning, #parrot | 10:46 | |
| tadzik | good morning whiteknight | 10:47 | |
| whiteknight | hello tadzik. How are you doing? | 10:48 | |
| tadzik | not too bad, enjoying my free time at last | 10:49 | |
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| dalek | sella/gh-pages: a28dbdc | Whiteknight++ | libraries/path.md: Add in a quick stub for Path docs |
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| cotto | ~ | 12:50 | |
| stupid brain is still on nc time | |||
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| benabik | I'm still on NC time. | 12:58 | |
| That less of a problem for me, since I'm travelling north, not west | 12:59 | ||
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| dalek | kudo/nom-complex-insanity: a5bfdd0 | moritz++ | src/core/Complex.pm: optimize and fix a few ops. Not correct yet, but compiles |
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| kudo/nom-complex-insanity: 6fe7e6f | moritz++ | src/core/Complex.pm: fix infix - |
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| kudo/nom-complex-insanity: 316fcb9 | moritz++ | src/core/ (3 files): more work to get complex.t passing includes Complex to Num, Int, Rat coercion, Num -> Rat and some bridge methods in Real |
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| kudo/nom-complex-insanity: 1e80b76 | moritz++ | src/core/Numeric.pm: - should subtract, not add :-) |
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| cotto | "nomplex"? | 14:11 | |
| ;) | |||
| moritz, ping | 14:19 | ||
| aloha, clock? | |||
| aloha | cotto: LAX: Sat, 07:19 PDT / CHI: Sat, 09:19 CDT / NYC: Sat, 10:19 EDT / UTC: Sat, 14:19 UTC / LON: Sat, 15:19 BST / BER: Sat, 16:19 CEST / TOK: Sat, 23:19 JST / SYD: Sun, 00:19 EST | ||
| moritz | cotto: pong | 14:21 | |
| dalek | kudo/nom-complex-insanity: a425e09 | moritz++ | src/core/Real.pm: get infix:<-> with two different Real types working |
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| cotto | moritz, I'd like ilbot to be able to star snippets of conversation, indicating that something important is being talked about. Which part of ilbot's code would be the best place to add something like that? | 14:24 | |
| moritz | cotto: 1) a new column in the the db schema | ||
| cotto | so, non-trivial | 14:25 | |
| moritz | cotto: 2) I think the least intrusive approach would be JS overlay, ie if you enable starry mode, an ajax query asks for which columns are starred, and displays it | 14:26 | |
| cotto: not all that non-trivial. It's a simple ALTER TABLE | |||
| cotto | moritz, ok. Does ilbot have any built-in upgrading code or is it necessary to do that manually? | 14:27 | |
| moritz | cotto: manually | ||
| cotto: ie you change schema.sql, I'll update the DB on the server | 14:28 | ||
| cotto | moritz, what about having a separate table for that? Is having a single table important? | ||
| moritz | cotto: that can work too. Just think about what queries will have to be done, and if separate tables will make that easier or harder | 14:30 | |
| dalek | kudo/nom-complex-insanity: 2c0fd1c | moritz++ | src/core/Num.pm: fix Num.Rat |
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| dalek | kudo/nom: a5bfdd0 | moritz++ | src/core/Complex.pm: optimize and fix a few ops. Not correct yet, but compiles |
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| kudo/nom: 6fe7e6f | moritz++ | src/core/Complex.pm: fix infix - |
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| kudo/nom: 316fcb9 | moritz++ | src/core/ (3 files): more work to get complex.t passing includes Complex to Num, Int, Rat coercion, Num -> Rat and some bridge methods in Real |
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| kudo/nom: 1e80b76 | moritz++ | src/core/Numeric.pm: - should subtract, not add :-) |
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| kudo/nom: a425e09 | moritz++ | src/core/Real.pm: get infix:<-> with two different Real types working |
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| kudo/nom: 2c0fd1c | moritz++ | src/core/Num.pm: fix Num.Rat |
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| kudo/nom: e51937b | moritz++ | src/core/ (4 files): Merge branch 'nom-complex-insanity' into nom |
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| kudo/nom: 6518be4 | moritz++ | t/spectest.data: another passing test file |
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| dalek | sella/gh-pages: 8fea1fd | Whiteknight++ | / (2 files): Add a link to Path |
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| sella/gh-pages: 998bd29 | Whiteknight++ | libraries/path.md: Flesh out Path library docs |
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| sella/gh-pages: fdeba36 | Whiteknight++ | libraries/path.md: More Path docs |
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| sella: 6bc45f1 | Whiteknight++ | / (2 files): Fix Path to be able to handle multi-character separator sequences. Add tests for this, for non-standard separators, and for attr-hash-attr searches |
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| sella: 42996df | Whiteknight++ | / (10 files): Path library is now stable |
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| sella: 929084b | Whiteknight++ | / (4 files): Update Path to use new-style constructors instead |
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| dalek | kudo/nom: 67fe2fd | jonathan++ | src/Perl6/SymbolTable.pm: Fix $_ bug. |
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| dalek | kudo/nom: fa88a07 | (Solomon Foster)++ | t/spectest.data: Turn on S32-str/lcfirst.t now that the { $_ = whatever } bug has been fixed. |
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| bubaflub | ping whiteknight | 17:34 | |
| dalek | kudo/nom: 16ccf25 | moritz++ | t/spectest.data: four more passing test files |
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| lichtkind | haha | 18:11 | |
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| dalek | TT #2141 created by jkeenan++: Test of parrotbug only | 20:10 | |
| TT #2141: trac.parrot.org/parrot/ticket/2141 | |||
| TT #2141 closed by jkeenan++: Test of parrotbug only | |||
| TT #2141: trac.parrot.org/parrot/ticket/2141 | |||
| cotto | I like where this is going. | 20:24 | |
| kid51++ | |||
| dalek | TT #2142 created by jkeenan++: Yet another test of bug ticket creation | 20:25 | |
| TT #2142: trac.parrot.org/parrot/ticket/2142 | |||
| TT #2142 closed by jkeenan++: Yet another test of bug ticket creation | |||
| TT #2142: trac.parrot.org/parrot/ticket/2142 | |||
| TT #2141 reopened by jkeenan++: Test of parrotbug only | |||
| TT #2141: trac.parrot.org/parrot/ticket/2141 | |||
| TT #2141 closed by jkeenan++: Test of parrotbug only | |||
| TT #2141: trac.parrot.org/parrot/ticket/2141 | |||
| rrot/m0-prototype: 2b67d33 | chromatic++ | src/m0/c/Makefile: Added debugging binary build rule. |
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| rrot/m0-prototype: 606aa97 | chromatic++ | src/m0/c/ (3 files): Added m0b constant segment parsing. |
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| rrot/m0-prototype: 84311ae | chromatic++ | src/m0/c/ (3 files): Added m0b metadata segment parsing. |
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| rrot/m0-prototype: 844b9a4 | chromatic++ | src/m0/c/ (3 files): Added m0b bytecode segment parsing. |
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| rrot/m0-prototype: 8b1430a | chromatic++ | src/m0/c/ROADMAP: Added a ROADMAP for this C M0 implementation. |
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| cotto | Oooh. I also like where that's going. | 20:29 | |
| chromatic++ | |||
| bubaflub | incoming | 20:31 | |
| dalek | rrot-gmp: 5835862 | bubaflub++ | src/GMP/ (6 files): update these from loading from src/GMP to just plain ole GMP/ |
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| rrot-gmp: 7f5adb8 | bubaflub++ | t/integer/vtable/get_string.t: test for vtable override get_string |
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| rrot-gmp: 03673fe | bubaflub++ | / (4 files): add vtable override for get_integer and tests |
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| rrot-gmp: f6e8aae | bubaflub++ | gmpdoc2winxed.pl: some macros are actually functions in disguise |
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| rrot-gmp: 4977b67 | bubaflub++ | gmpdoc2winxed.pl: remove extra blank-line |
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| rrot-gmp: 6ec8757 | bubaflub++ | src/GMP/Integer. (2 files): regenerate sources from new script this picks up mpz_cmp_si, mpz_cmp_ui, mpz_sgn, mpz_odd_p, mpz_even_p |
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| rrot-gmp: 008f934 | bubaflub++ | t/integer/cmp/01-cmp.t: add tests for mpz_cmp_ui and mpz_cmp_si |
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| rrot-gmp: 6b28b83 | bubaflub++ | / (4 files): fix mpz_sgn, mpz_odd_p, mpz_even_p macros -> write my own functions |
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| rrot-gmp: c4830ab | bubaflub++ | t/integer/ (2 files): add tests for mpz_sgn, mpz_odd_p and mpz_even_p |
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| kid51 | cotto: Please express opinion in TT #920 and/or TT #2108. | ||
| bubaflub | can someone explain the difference between the get_string VTABLE and the get_repr VTABLE? | 20:37 | |
| cotto | kid51, replied to 920 | 20:38 | |
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| cotto | bubaflub, get_repr isn't extensively used. The intent may have been to provide a human-readable format similar to Perl 6's .perl method. | 20:42 | |
| bubaflub | cotto: ok, so no real need to provide an override for get_repr? | 20:43 | |
| cotto | bubaflub, not if you don't want one | ||
| get_string is the important one | |||
| bubaflub | cotto: ok, that's what i thought. | ||
| cotto: also, there is get / set number which takes a float - but all of the GMP functions only handle doubles. won't the conversion between the two lose precision? | 20:44 | ||
| cotto | bubaflub, FLOATVAL is double afaict | 20:46 | |
| bubaflub | cotto: oh, perfect. | ||
| cotto | are you on x86? | 20:47 | |
| bubaflub | cotto: yep. | ||
| cotto: so double == FLOATVAL == N registers | |||
| cotto | bubaflub, check include/parrot/config.h and look at what Parrot_Float is defined to | ||
| I think it's constant across platforms. | 20:48 | ||
| bubaflub | cotto: yup, it's a double for me. i don't imagine it'll be that way for everyone, though | ||
| cotto: i stand corrected. | |||
| cotto | bubaflub, so you're happy? | 20:49 | |
| bubaflub | cotto: i don't usually love being wrong, but in this case i do. | ||
| cotto | The naming of FLOATVAL is lta | ||
| bubaflub | another vtable question - can you explain the difference between add and i_add | 20:51 | |
| cotto | i == in-place | ||
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| nopaste | "kid51" at 192.168.1.3 pasted "TT #756: Am I correctly running the code provided in this ticket?" (36 lines) at nopaste.snit.ch/56924 | 20:52 | |
| bubaflub | cotto: ok, that makes sense. the non-i variants will return a new (in my case) GMP integer | ||
| cotto | bubaflub, exactly | 20:53 | |
| bubaflub | cotto: ok. is there a way i can trigger divide_floor? i imagine the plain ole / just calls the divide vtable. | ||
| cotto | kid51, StringArray isn't a valid core PMC type. We have ResizableStringArray and FixedStringArray | 20:54 | |
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| Eclesia | hi | 20:54 | |
| bubaflub | hello Eclesia. how goes the project? | ||
| Eclesia | did not work on it this week. | 20:55 | |
| kid51 | cotto: So what behavior would we want parrot to do in that case? | 20:56 | |
| cotto | bubaflub, look for mentions of "floor_divide" in t/ . | ||
| bubaflub | cotto: of course; thanks a bunch. | ||
| kid51 | trac.parrot.org/parrot/ticket/756 | ||
| cotto | kid51, ah. coke is complaining about a very wrong failure for that code. | 20:58 | |
| kid51, I don't see a bus error, so the ticket looks closeable from my perspective. | 20:59 | ||
| kid51 | Can you take it and provide a reason for closing it? | 21:02 | |
| cotto | kid51, done | 21:07 | |
| dalek | kudo/nom: 14ef250 | moritz++ | src/core/Real.pm: cis, unpolar |
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| dalek | TT #756 closed by cotto++: invalid PMC causes bus error with const. | 21:12 | |
| TT #756: trac.parrot.org/parrot/ticket/756 | |||
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| soh_cah_toa | cotto: ping | 22:34 | |
| cotto | soh_cah_toa, back at you | 22:36 | |
| soh_cah_toa | cotto: i saw your "make flag macros less noisy" commit. is this what you were talking about at the hackathon that fixed the "c++ blah blah blah" compiler warnings? | ||
| cotto | soh_cah_toa, it fixes a few of them. In some cases, I think it's just gcc being too picky. | 22:37 | |
| soh_cah_toa | ok. how did you discover that that was the problem? how does casting it as it's own type and explicitly writing out the assignment instead of the |= shorthand fix it? | 22:38 | |
| cotto | soh_cah_toa, do you have any pending changes? I have another similar patch but I don't want to clobber anything you're working on. | ||
| soh_cah_toa, I don't honestly know. | 22:39 | ||
| though one of the macros was broken | |||
| the TEST macro assigned instead of just testing (iirc) | |||
| soh_cah_toa | interesting. i didn't realize that | 22:40 | |
| yeah, i think i do have changes. it's half-finished though. let me get to my laptop and push them | |||
| cotto | soh_cah_toa, no rush. | ||
| soh_cah_toa, I also highly recommend avoiding single-letter variable names except in loops. They generally don't make code easier to understand except when there's a known convention they follow. | 22:43 | ||
| dalek | TT #2143 created by jkeenan++: examples/benchmarks/overload.pl: Can we remove this file? | 22:46 | |
| TT #2143: trac.parrot.org/parrot/ticket/2143 | |||
| cotto | soh_cah_toa, do you know for sure that the short version of commands work in hbdb? I think there's a bug in src/hbdb.c +718 | 22:47 | |
| dalek | rrot/soh-cah-toa/hbdb: b0430db | soh_cah_toa++ | src/hbdb.c: Added 'quit' command |
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| rrot/soh-cah-toa/hbdb: 9dc4dbc | soh_cah_toa++ | src/ (2 files): Some of the work on breakpoints I started at the YAPC hackathon. It's incomplete though |
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| cotto | soh_cah_toa, I'd recommend building with g++. It's much better about catching some kinds of errors. | 22:52 | |
| soh_cah_toa | sure | ||
| cotto: actually, now that i think about it, i haven't even tried the short commands | |||
| dalek | rrot/soh-cah-toa/hbdb: 4b8f590 | cotto++ | src/hbdb.c: add some more consts to sate gcc |
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| rrot/soh-cah-toa/hbdb: cc7ee99 | cotto++ | / (2 files): a few pointer and const fixes |
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| soh_cah_toa | cotto: i removed those const's b/c i thought you wanted me to avoid them for now | 22:54 | |
| cotto | soh_cah_toa, only where they're not required for the build | ||
| soh_cah_toa | what do you mean? i don't think a const is ever "required" | 22:55 | |
| cotto | C++ is more picky than gcc about such things. | 22:56 | |
| soh_cah_toa | alright | 22:57 | |
| is your's running? mine keeps segfaulting. i think i remember this happening at the hackathon after changing the way i initialized the command table | 22:59 | ||
| cotto | same here | ||
| soh_cah_toa | wonderful | ||
| cotto | I was about to mention it | ||
| at least it's consistent | |||
| inconsistent segfaults are not fun | 23:00 | ||
| soh_cah_toa | true | ||
| cotto | I suspect that this one will be pretty easy to debug. | 23:01 | |
| and you get to run your debugger in a debugger, which is a plus | |||
| dalek | rrot: f69ef9a | jkeenan++ | t/pmc/io_iterator.t: Add number of Trac ticket tracking 'todo' item |
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| soh_cah_toa | yeah, it's definitely b/c of the way i had to explicitly define each field of the command table | 23:04 | |
| when i changed it back to the old way, it runs | |||
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| dalek | TT #956 closed by cotto++: Singleton PMCs with the active_destroy flag set cause segfaults when ... | 23:32 | |
| TT #956: trac.parrot.org/parrot/ticket/956 | |||
| TT #1023 closed by cotto++: [TODO] Explore using Apple's new Blocks and Grand Central Dispatch | |||
| TT #1023: trac.parrot.org/parrot/ticket/1023 | |||
| cotto | kid51, when grepping the source for functions, make sure to run make realclean first to avoid getting results from (most) generated files. | 23:34 | |
| dalek | rrot/soh-cah-toa/hbdb: e53f5b4 | soh_cah_toa++ | / (2 files): Fixed merge conflict |
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| soh_cah_toa | i have serious git problems. ugh | ||
| dalek | rrot/soh-cah-toa/hbdb: 4fdb6bc | soh_cah_toa++ | src/hbdb.c: This is a test to see if my git issues are gone |
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| dalek | rrot/soh-cah-toa/hbdb: c7d969e | soh_cah_toa++ | src/hbdb.c: Reformatted a few comments |
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| rrot/soh-cah-toa/hbdb: dc05051 | soh_cah_toa++ | src/hbdb.c: Fixed "comparison between pointer and integer" build warning in parse_command() |
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| soh_cah_toa | cotto: great, now the only build warnings that remain are the "braces around scalar initializer" ones regarding the command table | 23:56 | |
| i'll definitely need your help on that though b/c i haven't got a clue as to how i can solve that problem | |||